Billy King to Interview with Nets
by NetsDaily on Jul 11, 2010 12:02 AM EDT
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PrintBilly King, the man who preceded Ed Stefanski as president of the Sixers, will interview for the opportunity to replace Rod Thorn with the Nets, according to FanHouse's Sam Amick. King ran the Sixers for nine years before he was fired in December of 2007. He was responsible for drafting Andre Iguodala and Thaddeus Young, as well as trading Allen Iverson to Denver for Andre Miller, Joe Smith and two first round picks.
Meanwhile, Thorn says that he'd be open to running another team if the opportunity came up in the future. "This team needs new blood and I need a new a challenge if there's one challenge out there," he told Chris Tomasson.
- Billy King is expected to be interviewed for the New Jersey GM opening - Sam Amick - Twitter
- Billy King Transaction History - HoopsHype
- Rod Thorn Insists He's 'Not Retiring' After Leaving Nets - Chris Tomasson - FanHouse
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he is not of the calibre of candidates that should be considered. Come on! If we want to build a legacy then you need someone leading your front office that has a lot of talent. Billy King is not this person.
And the fact he is being considered is worrying.
by Yi Of Little Faith on Jul 10, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
I'd Rather have Billie Jean King as Gm
What the hell with these retreads. Bobby marks or pritchard
seriously?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
shes just a girl who said that I am the one
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
But the kid is not your son?
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
oh geezzzzzzz
now everyone knows! ;-)
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
JUST GET KP ALREADY
Save us all a pain in the you know what. (I don’t want to get any more warnings, lol)
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
seriously this is insane
Kevin Pritchard is sitting on the free agent market twiddling his thumbs and we’re chasing after guys like Dumars and Brown??? I mean how can they expect us to buy into their “new nets” when they’re still acting like the old ones.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
What I meant by Brown was Mike Brown as head coach.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 10, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah cause he is so good
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
yea but I
heard he wants the Knicks job. Don’t know how real if at all, but maybe thats why?? He would be my choice Paul Allen can be a difficult man.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
if the knicks hire pritchard
and we hire one of these retreads I will an hero.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Yeah that they will hire him and either work under donnie untill his contract expires( 1 more year I think) or quietly take the control while not making donnie look bad.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
If that actually happens
and we hire someone like this we’re doomed.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
who would you pick as your first choice Gina?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
no idea
but I’d try to pilfer a top exec from front offices like the Thunder, or Spurs…not chase after “veteran” gms with middling track records. Why settle for a retread?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
I agree 100%
Lakers? Celtics? Orlando? San Antonio? OKC? Do they have some one in the offices that needs to rebuild a certain Metro area team? Offer Prichard or Presti some real cash! Tell Avery, my friend you are just the coach shut up and coach.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure there's zero way presti's happening
cash can’t buy him another Durant.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
If the Knick hire Pritchard..............................
it would cap off a very stressing summer for us Net fans
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Well if I was Pritchard...
I would chose the Nets. Not only a better core, a lot more draft ammo going forward, but if the reason Thorn is leaving is cause Pro lowballed him, then in a bidding war Dolan is not afraid to over pay to get what he wants, assuming Pro just doesn’t want a yes man and is trying to have a Jerry Jones role in his team.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
if i was pritchard I'd choose the team who's showed interest in me
and by most accounts we’ve shown little to no interest in Pritchard
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
yeah thats what's stunning me
The guy is good why not bring him in? Unless Paul Allen has told Thorn some stuff that would make sense not to hire him.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a few days old but....
beyondthebeat: caught up with kevin pritchard today who confirmed his upcoming meeting with the new jersey nets. thankful for the opportunity. Twitter
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Beyondthebeat has twitter
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like this whole operation was under the radar
Their whole relationship with the media has been curious. They blatantly promote a product in an effort to market their plan, with a pie in the sky approach to free agency. Since they lost they have taken a hit from the marketing perspective.
Their search for a general manager has been “under the cuff”, yet Thorn and the powers that be have created quite a stir with the premature Thorn announcement as well as the handling of Kiki’s firing. The both have to raise question on how to run an organization. Even the Ratner rant shows how the release of negative information in the midst of a promotional campaign can damage the organization.
We’re still here, but the Nets missed out on a big opportunity. If they swing and miss in two years they’re in serious trouble.
its probably not money with thorn, its in-house authority divisions.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jul 11, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Read between the lines on KP
Paul Allen dropped him, one of the richest owners of the NBA, despite the fact that he’s done a reasonably good job. The talk out there in the media is that he is an arrogant jerk and not a very likeable guy among the GM circles. I don’t doubt KP’s track record but you have to wonder why teams with GM openings aren’t jumping for him ASAP.
by imdkidd on Jul 10, 2010 11:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what other teams have gm openings?
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Hey build me a contender and , I don’t care if you pee on my leg I will deal with it.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Hes a genious
GMs don’t like him because he drives a hard bargain. He talks about all types of deals, but in the end he wants the better end of every deal, which is smart.
He would be Thorn + drafting ability.
only jayz has the right to say
hollah
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
NONONONONONO.
King will make Thorn look like Red Auerbach in retrospect. Hell, he’d make Isiah Thomas look like a genius in retrospect.
by madisonmetsfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
that had to be meant as hyperbole
NO ONE could be as destructive as fast as Isiah Thomas unless he was an arsonist.
As Charles Barkley would say...
…that’s TURRIBLE.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Jul 10, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
make Johan Petro GM
and Billy King the backup Center.
Why not? There skill sets are interchangeable from all I can tell.
by Oligarch on Jul 10, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
This is just an interview
I think Proky’s team is just trying to refine their interview skills before they get to the good candidates.
hmm that makes sense
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Hope that is all kinds of true
Hey if Kevin Pritchard is out then who would you want????
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Pathetic
Another mediocre retread that will lead this team nowhere.
Why are the Nets looking at veteran GMs that have never accomplished anything? A competent GM is VITAL to developing a strong franchise. The Nets need to look for people with vision, who are comfortable analyzing players using advanced statistical metrics, and whose biases for or against certain types of players will interfere with their attempt at independent thought.
This report really saddens me.
by Dumpy on Jul 10, 2010 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I'm trying to convince myself
that nets4life has it right.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Look at who is recommend these people
Thorn is recommending people worse than him
Avery wants someone he can control
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
by cpawfan on Jul 10, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
lol that was my first thought
Thorn must be trying to punish us
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
this is bad news ... avery wants to control
the players’ every move on/off the court, and avery wants to control the gm
avery is a control freak, and this is bad news for the franchise
by 3ptChucker on Jul 11, 2010 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed...
And it scares the hell out of me. The last thing we need is an old school GM who doesn’t use modern statistical analysis and doesn’t use the salary cap creatively. KP, Rich Cho from the Thunder, or someone from Houston or San Antonio would be ideal.
or how about
just a smart guy with an MBA? You don’t need to be a scout or former player to be a GM! You just need a trustworthy staff that dont have their own agenda to advise you on player evaluations.
Where do I send my resume?
We should hire
Whomever got Outlaw and Morrow to sign with us for those contracts. This offseason has been characterized by smart spending on young promising players, while staying away from Ben Gordon/Charlie V type signings. I like this streak we’re on.
yeah I don't understand why we haven't been linked
to any of the top front office guys in organizations like the Thunder or San Antonio. That’s how the Thunder got Presti right, he was in San Antonio’s front office. It seems like we’re more concerned with getting someone with the gm title already, than making the best hire.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
agree
I don’t get our approach, but I also think that the search process has been kept out of the media for reasons. Either there is a rift between the Thorn/Prokhorov teams or Thorn is just keeping it under raps because he knows its the right decision and he’ll use the media at the last minute to make sure he gets its way.
Either way, there is in NO way that I believe Thorn would purposely do any damage to the franchise. Whatever happened behind the scenes will remain there – he is old school.
yeah but to me that's the problem
it seems like the type of gms we’re targeting are “old school” guys. He may not intentionally be trying to do damage, he may just not be a fan of new more progressive gms, or trust young less experienced guys, and looking for a more traditional veteran gm…and will unintentionally leave us screwed over.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
My only thought is some (not saying Thorn) are real ego guys. the mind set would be if I find a guy who does better then me it might hurt my legacy. So not so much that he would want to hurt the team, and more that they don’t want the next person to do better then them. Again not saying that Thorn is one o these guys.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Eh
Not my idea of the prime candidate.
by Timothy Boutillier on Jul 10, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
The Atrocious GM Summit
Clearly Prokhorov & Co. have not read the minutes.
by Delacratic on Jul 10, 2010 11:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Bye
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 10, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Bickerstaff, Dumars,Bower and now Billy King?
Is this bad karma the Nets get for firing/embarrassing Kiki Vandeweghe?
Then enjoy
giving Tyrus Thomas 12 million next year. Well, that would have to entail a time machine, but you get my point.
That’s why we can’t get a strong president. Must share power with AJ.
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jul 11, 2010 5:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Where are we coming up with this Avery wants to be GM idea?
He worked in Dallas and San Antonio and I would think that he wants a well run organization that has a top down approach. He just wants a say in personel decisions, I’m not sure he wants to make them. If he likes somebody he is going to tell the GM, it’s not like they three a ton of money at Thomas.
I wonder...
if the nets are considering andrei kirilenko….
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
billy king is not a pf
what the hell r the nets thinking?
we still need a pf!
oh and lets get farmer also,,,
"We’re the new Nets. We’re leaving the old behind and we’re in with the new. Hopefully LeBron is going to be a part of that."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
by Andy. on Jul 11, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not impressed
Given what the sixers have gone through. I’ll pass
Yeah that about sums it up. And those who would argue he has drafted some good players and made some good trades. Whats that saying " a broken clock is right twice a day" lol
Since the face been revealed the game got real
I think it's heightened by the fact that I like Ed Stefanski
And while he’s made his mistakes (Brand) I feel that it has been heightened by the fact that he inherited a difficult situation.
he has been like that since birth
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 11, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Buford or Presti would be GREAT for me..
KP would be my 3rd choice.
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
Hey you might be on to something
I didn’t even think of Buford, he would be an excellent choice, good call. Didn’t Sam Presti start with Buford or work under him at one time or something along those lines???
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Buford and Presti aren't happening
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
WHY????
what am I missing here its late and I am half asleep but i don’t understand.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
because they're happy where they are
and contrary to some opinions not everyone can just be bought. What we should be doing is looking for top execs in their front offices.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
o jesus my day just got ruined
When he put them I was like crap why would I not think of one of the best guys in the biz. I thought they were available or got fired and that I must of missed it, I can’t believe that, I was so excited, but we all have been talking for days bout GM’s duh no wonder he didn’t come up. LOL wow
Since the face been revealed the game got real
But if you think about it
to a exc working with other teams, this young team and the picks must look like the prettiest girl at school. Or atleast a real atractive situation.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
yeah but we have to be pursuing them
to land them.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
maybe quietly??
no need to stir feathers if it is not going to work out? idk.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
We need to get a GM that can work with Avery
If you don’t, things can get uglier in a hurry. Want to see Avery leave the team before he even has a chance to coach it?
umm the New Gm is Avery..
we don't light the stars, we simply fade with them..
by silenthero07 on Jul 11, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Im not sure though someone in here told me that he is. So they were joking??
we don't light the stars, we simply fade with them..
by silenthero07 on Jul 11, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
There was an article by Dave D. that kind of said Avery would be defacto GM if Thorn left
I think he meant to say that Avery wants a say in the personnel decisions. Some people may have misunderstood that as Dave D. saying Avery was going to be GM.
tnx for the info dude..
we don't light the stars, we simply fade with them..
by silenthero07 on Jul 11, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah thats a really good point with Avery. Top of the page that was said with Kevin Prit. I didn’t know he was difficult and full of himself. Since gina brought that Buford and Presti have jobs, It looks like KP is the best AVAILABE gm. Now the question is would they be willing to work with ech other, otherwise like it was said we should poach a front office excutive from a good program.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
I don’t want a submissive gm that will get pushed around by a coach with a strong will. I think Avery is a great coach and will do well, but if he can’t get along with someone like R. C. Buford for no other reason that he is one of the best gms not just available, one of the best gms period, and with the ammo at his disposal (draft picks ect.) he can build us a Spurs like dynasty, then he would not be a very smart coach.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Billy King and Bobby Marks
They are saying Billy King as President of Basketball Operations and Bobby Marks as GM. I think that is a workable solution but definitely not the most fan appealing choice. Bobby Marks has been working with Thorn for years. So he knows how Thorn thinks. Therefore, I don’t anticipate him having trouble with Avery. Billy King is an experienced NBA executive and probably has a solid rep around the league … which will help when negotiating with other teams.
R.C. Buford would also be a good choice too since he’s been with the Spurs and would be someone Avery respects. I agree, you don’t want Avery pushing the buttons … like what has been stated about him wanting Tyrus Thomas. But at the same time, you don’t want to have a bad dynamic between the GM and coach right off the bat either. That is why I think Kevin Pritchard may not work here. His arrogance mixed with Avery’s hard personality spells trouble.
hey imdkidd
if you scroll up and see what Claud put with available gms, I thought you said we need a gm that avery would work with under his post so I was mixed up. Yeah I would respond to your statement closely to what you put. Thats the second time I have heard that about Kevin P being a douche but with the other gms a hopeful option yeah K.P. would not be the first choice with Avery . I agree you can’t have a scrub gm trying to work hand in hand with avery, he needs to be resected by him, cause when they are face to face yelling about who to draft there needs to be respect on all sides. So again thats why I typed all that in the first place, when i thought you were saying Avery couldn’t get along with Buford or something like that.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Billy King is a laughing stock
Billy King doesn’t have a solid reputation. Teams constantly ripped him off.
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
Those weren't rip offs
Deke was completely misused by Scott.
Marc Jackson was acquired because Thorn screwed up and had to use the TE or lose it.
Please Prokhorov never again listen to the fools that told you it was a good idea to retain Rod Thorn
C'mon
Deke completely misused by Scott? The guy was a terrible fit for a team built for Kidd. He was stiff, can’t run, and getting old.
The Sixers also went to the Finals under Billy King
Of course, you can give most of the credit to AI and Larry Brown, but Billy King did not hurt them.
I admit, he does have his flaws and isn’t exactly an ideal candidate but I would not say he’s a laughing stock either.
Lets go after Isah Thomas
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Wall2KingJames to JamesSucks
by Wall2KingJames on Jul 11, 2010 12:43 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah James Dolan
Really likes him. That franchise is done so well since he has been owner that we should steal their methods for building a sucessful contending dynasty.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Isiah Thomas*
"Avery Johnson: Erase to Replace"
Wall2KingJames to JamesSucks
by Wall2KingJames on Jul 11, 2010 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
Thanks, Bill Simmons, for your insight on this guy
“Just look at what I’ve done in Philly: Since we made the 2001 Finals, I gave Mutombo a $68 million extension even though he could have been, like, 48 years old for all we knew. I gave $35.5 million to Aaron McKie. I gave $29 million to Eric Snow. I gave $18 million to Greg Buckner. I gave $40 million to Kenny Thomas and $25 million to Brian Skinner. I gave $25 million to Kyle Korver and $60 million to Sam Dalembert last summer. That’s $300 million of contracts to guys who were either on the decline or never that good in the first place. Plus, I traded for other bad contracts, guys like Keith Van Horn, Glenn Robinson, Kevin Ollie, you name it. And then, last February, the pinnacle — dumping three bad contracts for C-Webb, who everyone thought couldn’t be traded because of his contract and because he ran with a limp. Now we have an aging team built around two past-their-prime stars and our cap space is killed through 2008. And we completely wasted Iverson’s prime, when he was one of the best players of his generation.”
Finding late 1st or 2nd round draft gems, though
He’s great at. Dalembert, Korver, Lou Williams, Big Todd. Can he be hired as a draft consultant?
What are the Nets doing?
I don’t care if Pritchard runs around tripping old ladies that are crossing the street. The man knows how to build a team. Get him in here.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
any pictures of him tripping them?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jul 11, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
that would be pure win if there were
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 11, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
all the pritchard love is puzzling
i’m not saying pritchard is a bad candidate, but come on. this is a guy who passed on durant, offered hedo turkalu a huge contract, signed andre miller to sit the bench and has never been anywhere near the finals.
by drmagoo on Jul 11, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
um what
he turned the jailblazer into a 50 win team in like two years, and everyone in the world would have passed on Durant. And Miller is one of the more underrated players in the league.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Yeah
He actually built the type of team that everyone is afraid of on the boards. They are a bottom tier playoff team with limited upside that will have a tough time making it past the first round of the playoffs or improving in the draft.
He is an example that the whole process is luck. I think we all understand that, but he got a “fringe” superstar in Roy. An almost top big, but he’s too soft in Aldridge, and it looks like he missed on the third piece in Oden. He’s put some nice, Scottie Pippen types as Gina would say in Batum, Outlaw, Webster and Fernandez. What has he done that Thorn hasn’t done?
If we could compare ourselves to Portland this is the Oden year. The player that we add with our draft pick (assuming we are a lottery team) will be of utmost importance. I think KP is good, but the one mistake that he has made is that he has held onto players like Aldridge too long. He’s a good player, but he should have traded him when people were talking about him as one of the best young bigs in the league.
um no he didn't
they have Brandon Roy, who is a game changer. And they just got horribly unlucky with Oden. No one we have or have targeted has any chance of being the player Brandon Roy is.
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
Comment from a Sixer fan
A GM traditionally has a lot of different duties, including evaluating talent, hiring coaches and other staff, interfacing with the marketing dept., making trades, recruiting FAs, and negotiating contracts. If you think it about logically, there is no reason to expect that any individual would be equally good at all those things.
My comment as a Sixer fan is that Billy King is actually quite good at evaluating talent and making trades, but he is unspeakably horrible at negotiating contracts and also poor at hiring coaches. He is also a nice guy (too nice for negotiating contracts), so if the Nets look at him seriously, it should be with the idea that other people would handle the contract negotiations and get veto power on the coaching search.
well it seems like they're treating them as the same thing
I want Jerry Manuel fired now, not three years from now. That is my stance.- John Peterson
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