Did the Nets Get the Most NBA-Ready Rookie?
by Net Income on Jul 1, 2010 3:00 PM EDT
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PrintThursday is not only the first day of free agency. It's the first scrimmage for Derrick Favors and Damion James as Nets. They have spent a lot of time at area ball parks however. The two first round picks and Terrence Williams along with a host of hopefuls gathered at the PNY Center this morning for a few days of training before the Summer League...with Favors supplying a hyper athletic dunk attempt that wowed those in attendance.
And there was also good news for the Nets in a stat geek's analysis of last week's draft. A couple of stats geeks at the respected Wages of Wins used their "Win Score" metric to determine which draftee was most likely to succeed in the NBA. Armed with their analysis, which they say is time-tested, they argue it's Damion James!
Win Score is "a simplified version of Wins Produced, built around the notion that points, rebounds, steals, field goal attempts, and turnovers have – in absolute terms – the same impact on wins." NBA rookies have an average PAWS of about 10 entering the league. James' is 15.8, just ahead of DeMarcus Cousins. Favors finished 18th. Shawn Ryan and David Berri point out what Win Score is not..."a crystal ball".
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really excited to see him play
u don’t average 18 and 10 in college when you’re awful. hopefully the kid can play and contribute right away
by __paolo on Jul 1, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
James pick like the Lopez one?
I hope that the pick becomes like the Brook Lopez or Richard jefferson one – long time player on a major college program, puts up very good stats, is a good citizen and hard worker, and somehow gets passed over for “potential”. Here’s hoping he sticks with the Nets and contributes big time.
At the very least, Damion is going to be a very good piece of the rotation for years to come (hopefully).
by Ryan243 on Jul 1, 2010 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't place much value in that model
as a predictor of NBA success. They had Nick Fazekas as the best pick a couple a of years ago. It tends to favor guys who are older or have more developed bodies. It’s hard for a young wing or PG to get a good grade, but that is exactly what people want in the NBA. The NBA game favors different attributes than college success.
see this guy doesn't put much value in it
and gave a sound reasoning. Thank you man.
That being said I would never consider it a measure of success at the next level, considering it can’t account for age or projection, but I think as far as comparing position for position, and accounting years in college, it’s probably pretty solid.
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someone should put up Twill's interview..
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
I like this guy too.
Didn’t know much about him prior to the draft, but have read alot about him now. I like him, and think he could be a 15 minute a game player this year, at SF and sometimes at SG and PF. But we still need a starting SF who can shoot the ball lights out, and defend the position. I want RJ back. He’s a role model, keeps his nose clean, wants back in this area too. We could probably get him for less than the market value, because he want to be back in this area, so he can live in a loft in SOHO, like he did when he played for us before. I like DJAMES, but he’s not a starter. RJ SHOULD BE BROUGHT HOME!
Paul from Delray Beach
sure but what cost?
I think most all Nets fans would welcome RJ back. The question is what price? RJ has this pipedream $7-10million/yr 5yr figure in his mind. Ain’t gonna happen.
Nets fans would welcome RJ back
Remember when we asked him to be the first option on offense? He suddenly developed an elite scoring average. I always think first about him on the break back in jason, kenyon, RJ days but he had some league leading stretches after that when he was designated scorer.
RJ should be told that if he wants 8 million dollars...
…go across the street from the mural, and beg the Dolans for change.
RJ is a Net true and true, but he can kick rocks if he wants anything more than 1 million per season. He’s garbage
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jul 2, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Damion James
But not because of Berri’s model. It’s awful.
Berri’s model. It’s awful.
I wouldnt take it out in traffic.
WOWWW
Favors still amazes me… I reallllllly hope we’re able to hold onto him- he has so much upside and i truly believe he’ll be dominant.
Nice interview from Twill btw, he’s startin to step up, take some guys under his wing, and take on some leadership.
I think of Damion as a guy who can be very consistent. a great energy player off the bench with defense.. and brings in good talent all around
Wow I didn't see this interview with T-Will
It should have been a thread on it’s own. I love his attitude, approach, and you can really tell that he LOVES what he’s doing which is even better. The fact that he’s displaying signs of leadership, wow. Keep it up T-will, you can be a star bro
I want to see where the jumpshot is at, but I’m glad Avery has told him to focus on being a lock down defender. Oh my god we have some animals on this team. I wish we could get an update on Courtney Lee as well, I hope he’s working on his three point consistency we NEED him to shoot in the high 30’s at the least.
I love our kids man. I like what I’m hearing about Zoubek as well. Get him on the roster.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
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