Nets Waive Keyon Dooling
by Net Income on Jun 28, 2010 12:20 PM EDT
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PrintAs expected the Nets have waived Keyon Dooling in order to clear cap space for their pursuit of free agents. Dooling was scheduled to make $3.83 million next season, but had a $500,000 buyout. Once he clears waivers, Dooling will be a free agent himself.
With the decision, the Nets have a little more than $27 million in cap space, assuming a salary cap of $56.1 million. If Kris Humphries decides against exercising his player option before Wednesday, the number will go up to nearly $30 million. Humphries however is expected to stay.
In two full seasons with New Jersey, Dooling appeared in 130 games, averaging 8.6 ppg, 1.6 rpg and 3.1 apg. He was hurt by an arthritic hip joint which required surgery a year ago. He didn't rule out a return to the Nets, but admitted that would be more likely if Rod Thorn remained in charge.
- NETS: Nets Waive Keyon Dooling - New Jersey Nets
- Nets waive Keyon Dooling for cap space - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- Nets request waivers on guard Keyon Dooling - Michael J. Fensom - Star-Ledger
- A classy departure for Nets guard Keyon Dooling - Dave D'Alessandro - Nets Blast
- Nets waive backup point guard Keyon Dooling - AP
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I have a feeling the Nets will try to trade Harris to clear some more cap space if they have a chance to sign two BIG timers.
And so said the old man!
No way
We wouldn’t have a PG. He’s the only one we have, and a very good one. We can’t afford to lose him
NOT
Harris is not, a PG. He plays like Iverson. Just because you can get to the basket and pass to a open man, does not make you a PG. You must know how to control the flow of the game and get the ball to the right PPl at the right time and where they like it.
I don't see any free agents coming here
If we trade Harris, also were no sure if anybody’s coming yet, Yi and Humphries would have to be moved.
exactly
it would make us less atractive and it would be temerary, since you wouldn’t know if that could get you a better player at the end of the day.
I think Twill is our starting PG if we trade Harris to sign Two max FA's
Remember, Avery Johnson told Twill to make sure he is in shape because he’s going to be used a “special” way.
And so said the old man!
Guy's with T-Wills traits are rare...
…seems most people don’t realize what kind of nightmare a T-Will, Courtney Lee, and Lebron James starting 1-3 lineup would create…
…that team could switch on any pick and roll, the size/athleticism of that group would just create havoc on the perimeter, they could be interchangeable on the p & roll….best 1-3 rebounders in the league also, and not even close…
by irish3 on Jun 28, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
said coach and scouting expert Andres B. lol
And so said the old man!
TWill’s passing and playmaking abilities are special for a wing, not for a PG. If you put him at the 1, he’d lose that advantage (yet he could create some mismatches because he’d be bigger than his opponents). He needs another guard next to him, IMO. He hasn’t entirely handled the PG duties long enough without a guard next to him and you’re willing to go into the season with him as our only PG?
I think TWill basically is Rajon Rondo with a few inches of height and less PG experience. I feel he can eventually be a special PG in the league but to put it all on his shoulders this coming season is asking too much in my opinion. He needs to learn the position in a backup role first.
by Chris2 on Jun 28, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec's
good take
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 28, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
If Lebron is playing with him...
…there is no better combo “playmaking duo” better than T-Will & LBJ. None.
…I’ll take that “playmaking duo” over Deron Williams + name anyone on that team…or over Rajon Rondo + anyone on that team, ect.
…and I don’t think anyone is saying there won’t be another pg there at all…
Who would guard the smaller, quicker guards? Wouldn’t they waste a lot of energy by bringing the ball up in every possession?
T-Will can bring the ball up on every possession, and in the same way its not a waste for Ragon Rondo to bring the ball up on every possession...
lol, its not a waste of T-Will’s energy to do it either…he’s young, he can handle it…
…and coming as a Blazers fan, I have no doubt T-Will can guard the quick pg’s better than who Steve Blake, or our current starter, Andre Miller…
…or Mo Williams for that matter…
…He won’t be Rajon Rondo out there, but he’ll be better than a lot of starting level on the ball pg defenders in the league already
...and I know he tries still, and in his time he was rock solid...
but seriously, does anyone think Derek Fisher is a better “on the ball” pg defender than T-Will could be at this point in their careers…
…I don’t even think its close, T’Will in a landslide is better
the fast break would be disgusting
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 28, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Lopez boards, hands it to TWill running the break with Lee spotting up behind the 3pt line and Lebron and Favors jetting down each of the lines for a ferocious alley oop dunk. Sweet Lord!
by Chris2 on Jun 28, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not yet
we can’t assume anything. The sky is the limit for this kid.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 28, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
unbearable vacancy
time for a new quote. throne in sky getting signs of wear.
Other than some perimeter shooting out of the pg position, I can't think of a single weakness our 1-3 positions would have with T-Will as our starting pg IF...
…Lee & LBJ are starting with him…
…initiating an offense, I think LBJ & Lee can handle that…
If we get LeBron, he doesn’t need to be a full time PG. I’d rather have T-Will at PG than Mo Williams
exactly
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 28, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
reccd!
…though MO is a lights out shooter…
…dude is TERRIBLE on D, and pretty much a proven wilter under the pressure of the playoffs…
….and not to reiterate, but D is so underrated…in the playoffs, seeing that stifling Defensive pressure just make teams wilt, is a thing of beauty!
Triple double machine...
…once so far. Just saying…
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jun 28, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yes...
…I have said many times, he is the second coming of Magic Johnson and i still believe it.
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Jun 28, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I NEED to know...
Can we just “buy out” K-Hump & Yi for half the price of their contracts?
Would these players take that? Wouldn’t that get the Nets an additional 3.5 million to work with when going after LBJ & Bosh???
I know it’s a worse case scenario, I also can’t believe we can’t just offer K-Hump, DJ, 2011 #1 pick, and 3 million dollars as frosting…to just clear some cap space…some team I think would take that…
Hope we can bring him back on a smaller salary, but I’m not counting on it.
Next move: Try to deal Hump, Yi, and GS pick for a 2nd rounder
I'm not even talking about bringing him back, just save half the $$$ by buying him out, and then...
let him recoup the $$$ and also increase his playing time, by going to another team
Need Some Help on this Salary Cap with Dooling being waived
So he was to make 3 million does are cap stay at 27 or does it go up to 30 or did it go to 27 because he had 24 million with the signing of favors at 3 million
by Wall2KingJames on Jun 28, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
I have a Nets dream, where you guys get an owner willing to go into ridiculous luxury tax territory, and rule the league for 10 years, and LBJ gets 8 titles...
…If I were LBJ, I’d be signing with the Nets, seriously…Reinsdorf’s track record speaks volumes, it doesn’t matter what drivel comes out of his mouth, his past says “I WILL NOT resign bench good bench players to go over the luxury tax…”
If I were LBJ, I would want an owner willing to resign guys like T-Will & C. Lee are up for contract again…dynasty of epic proportions could be had
At least this seems realistic. Right?
2010 Line-Up
Starting Five-
PG: Devin Harris
SG: Courtney Lee
SF: Rudy Gay
PF: Derrick Favors
C: Brook Lopez
Bench: Terrence Williams, Udonis Haslem, Kyle Korver, Jamaal Tinsley, Yi Jianlian, Damion James, Kris Humphris
Head Coach: Avery Johnson
I thought NY people are "winners", why do you not think you are SERIOUSLY in the running for Bosh & LBJ?
…it is REALISTIC…Avery Johnson & Jamal Mashburn were even commenting on tv about a month ago they thought LBJ would go to NY
Agree 100%
Saying That we are getting Lebron and/probably Bosh/Amare/Nowitizki isnt realistic then you dont belong here to talk basketball
Its not like we have 5 million is cap space or we a team like the spurs who are like 10 million over the cap and saying we are getting Lebron
Does anyone even thinks Proky is going to come out of this FA with Gay and Lee come on my hopes are so high its unbelieveable i really think we have a Shot at a Top Fa even if its Amare, if its only Amare its still a A+ Free Agency thats my opinion
The Funny thing is we nets fans arent realistic by saying were getting Lebron but Bull fans are being realistic when they say there getting Lebron why is that? dont tell me because chris brussclueless said lebron is going to chicago?
i understand nobody talks about us but do you think half of us care i really dont i just laugh when guys on espn are saying the bulls are the only team who have a supporting case
and all i say to my self is and the nets dont
Rose/Noah/Deng/Johnson/Gibson
Harris/Lopez/Favors/DJames/Lee/Williams/Yi
Another thing higgy just give me a reason why the nets probably havve no shot at Lebron
by Wall2KingJames on Jun 28, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, yet,
signing David Lee seems pointless. Shouldn’t we let Favors grow with PT rather than have him sitting behind someone for 2 years? Also, I believe people overestimate the importance of “learning”. I don’t see how David Lee can focus on his game and have enough time to mentor Derrick Favors. Finally, signing Lee and Gay would prevent us from building a quality bench (as I mentioned above).
by higgysmalls34 on Jun 28, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Favors could learn playing 25-27 minutes off the bench, and take over Lee’s starting job in a couple of years, as he develops and Lee nears his thirties, then Lee becomes a big time back up big, like Odom in LA, Sheed in Boston, etc.
This is why I don’t see Lee coming. With a guy like Bosh and Amare, the job security if there. Lee can get benched in a few years
But then
you have no money invested in your bench. A bench can not solely be based off of veteran min. players. Both the Celtics and the Lakers this year were teams with deep benches. Signing Lee would clog up nearly all of our space to sign quality bench players.
by higgysmalls34 on Jun 28, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Fine, but then
next year you will not be able to spend money on free agents. If you can get David Lee and have that bench, then that line-up sounds great to me. However, if it impedes on our ability to sign future free agents, then I say no deal.
by higgysmalls34 on Jun 28, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
we can sign a mid-level exception every year baby!
That’s the only thing that got Lakers Artest this year…we can get nice back ups all over for 6 million, of course, lol, they will cost the Russian 12 million bc of the tax…
…but its worth it
For one,
we do not have the money to sign two max free agents. Even if we did, why would those two come here rather than play with Wade in Miami (they have the money to sign Wade and two other max players)? Also, Derrick Rose is better than Devin harris. Altough I believe Brook is better than Noah, LeBron may believe that a star PG is greater than a star Center. I really hope we get LeBron, however, our chances of getting him are slim to none. Therefore, I believe we should build up a quality bench (I think that bench would be top 5 in the league), with some quality, young starters.
by higgysmalls34 on Jun 28, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Heres why:
1.) We CAN get to 33 million, we can do it, it is not a pipedream, we are close.
2.) Miami has Wade/Chalmers (they’d need to dump Beasley to max 2)…NJ has BROOK LOPEZ, T-WILL, C. LEE, and possibly Devin Harris if we don’t need to dump…
3.) So importantly, we have the Russian who can tell LBJ over and over again: I WILL PAY THE LUXURY TAX TO CONTINUALLY SURROUND YOU WITH GOOD PLAYERS. I AM 2ND RICHEST OWNER IN ALL OF SPORTS. I WILL CRUSH THEM! That is a near guarentee of a long term dynastic run in the NBA
4.) Chicago…yea, they are in it with us, admittedly. But we are right there with them.
Not until
the Nets trade Humphris or Yi will the team have enough for two max players. Also, it is HIGHLY unlikely that Humphris declines his option. If he does, then we can talk more seriously about this. To your point about Miami, they could do this easily sign-and-trade Beasley and a 1st rounder for Bosh (since he is a restricted free agent). As well, once a player is dealt in a sign and trade, his salary can be as high as it would’ve been with the Raptors.
by higgysmalls34 on Jun 28, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That is realistic. Nice.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jun 28, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Except Haslem would probably start
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jun 28, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm fine with that as long as
Favors can get enough minutes. As long as he would be a part of our team I would be happy
by higgysmalls34 on Jun 28, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Keyon
Thanks for your service to the Nets. The NBA would be better off with more guys of your character.
by ispartan on Jun 28, 2010 12:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Thanks Keyon
Finally somebody salutes this hard working, smart, play-with-paid, good character, pass-first quality PG for his career with Nets (mainly posters are discussing replacments and the FA scene; it’s like sitting on a dead guy’s stomach and arguing about who gets the shoes.)
We all knew this day was coming...
…and yet, I’m still saddened by it even though it had to be done. I was always high on Dooling ever since he played like a rabid dog against us a few years back in the playoffs as a member of the Heat, and I knew that when he came here he’d be one of our best guys.
Thank you Keyon, for being a professional and a leader in your time here. Good luck, I wish we could bring him back after the smoke clears on the cheap since he’d be great to have in the locker room but business is business. If he can still go, some team out there will be getting one heck of a guy.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 28, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
I remember that series very well and used to think what a perfect compliment Dooling would have been when we were a contender, both backing up and playing along side Kidd.
by Jack Handy Jr on Jun 28, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Keyon was such a beast in that series...
…he had Vince Carter visably shaken at the level of intensity that Dooling was bringing towards him on both ends of the floor. It’s really a shame that we couldn’t have had a healthy Keyon playing in some meaningful games for us.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 28, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Keyon and Hayes
I’m sad to see guys like them go because they stayed so loyal through the bad years here. They were also great guys off the court. I would hope in some way maybe we could bring one of these guys back for a smaller salary because having some reliable vets is a known plus to any playoff bound team.
by Christopher Manchesi on Jun 28, 2010 12:50 PM EDT reply actions
Ah...
..good idea. Hayes wouldn’t be bad to have off of the bench as a spot shooter.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 28, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
KD will be missed
Great pro, I wish nothing but the best.
by Andres B on Jun 28, 2010 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe We Can Resign Dooling
For the Vet minimum after we use all our cap space?
If not, we need a veteran back-up PG to go along with Harris and T.Will
Marbury or Alston?
just kidding….
We should sign Shaun Livingston!
I mean, if we are going to assume (or at least hope) that TWill is good simply because of the last month of the season, then I think we should really, really consider Livingston as the backup PG (and honestly, I think he could win the starting job). He is HUGE, has all the potential in the world, is resilient (coming back from gruesome knee injury). We could probably get him pretty cheap, and he could really be a double double guy every night. Great passer, and scores points.
He would be an interesting sign
But he seemed very happy in Washington and would be fantastic behind Wall. I wonder how much he would cost.
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jun 28, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take a guy who played good for his last 15 games, is healthy, young, currently athletic freak...
…over a guy who has been done for years…not even close comparison
If you think we can’t have TWill and Shaun on the team at the same time (and if you think that TWill is really going to play point for a majority of the season and that we don’t need a backup PG) then I don’t really know what to say regardless
I get obnoxious at times, my bad...
…and I agree, we could sign Saun theoretically, just saying T-Will has some serious possibilities at the 1 spot, PARTICULARLY if we get LBJ to sign this year…
…dynamic playmaking duo…LBJ would alleviate A LOT of pressure, in the same way Wade and Kobe do…
Because he had a HUGE impact on the performance
Of nearly all the Wizard players when he joined them last year. it wasn’t just his numbers, it was theirs.
And…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW7Kx9-LP1w
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jun 28, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The numbers on Livingston
Andray Blatche before Shaun joined the team: 11.1 points, 5.8 rebounds, 1.4 assists on 49.4% shooting in just under 24 minutes per game.
Andray Blatche after Shaun joined the team: 20.8 points, 7.3 rebounds, 3.6 assists on 46.1% shooting in 36.5 minutes per game.
Nick Young before Shaun joined the team: 7.2 points, 1.4 rebounds, 0.7 assists on 40% shooting and 42% shooting from three-point range in 16.9 minutes per game.
Nick Young after Shaun joined the team: 11.4 points, 1.3 rebounds, 0.6 assists on 44.2% shooting and 38.4% from three in 23.7 minutes per game.
JaVale McGee before Shaun joined the team: 3.8 points, 2.1 rebounds on 51% shooting in 11 minutes per game.
JaVale McGee after Shaun joined the team: 10.1 points, 6.7 rebounds on 51% shooting in 23.4 minutes per game.
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2010/6/8/1507560/even-with-john-wall-re-signing
"...where they don't play with a shot clock." - C. Sager
by kv on Jun 28, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Keyon!
I met Dave Brown who works at the PNY Center and he said Keyon was one of the nicest players one could ever manage. Hopefully we do retain him soon. If not, we should check out Jeff Mcinnis or Chris Childs.
wait, what?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 28, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i wonder what ever became of Chris Childs?
I’d hope that he isn’t somewhere slumped over in a urine stained hallway, with a half empty bottle of Laird’s vodka in his hand.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
Let's Sign Shannon Brown from the Lakers!
(Shannon) Brown, the 6-4 reserve guard will opt out of the final year of his two-year, $4.139-million contract by the June 30 deadline, his agent, Mark Bartelstein, said Sunday.
We could get him for three years, at 5 million per, no problem. He is an energy guy and plays good defense and he attacks the rim. He is a winner, with two rings. GET HIM!!!
Paul from Delray Beach
DUMB MOVE....
We should have held on to him……Next will be Hassell,then Humphries…..
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