CDR Deal Official
by Net Income on Jun 25, 2010 1:40 PM EDT
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PrintThe Nets announced Friday that they have traded Chris Douglas-Roberts to the Milwaukee Bucks for a second round pick in 2012. The pick is actually the Bulls pick that was sent to the Bucks in the John Salmons trade. As a Bulls pick, it's likely to be even less valuable than the Bucks pick. CDR bid farewell to fans...via Twitter, of course.
Earlier today, a writer for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel speculated that the Bucks might be sending James Jordan's draft rights to the Nets in the deal. That proved erroneous. The Bucks sold Jordan's rights to the Knicks for $1 million on Thursday.
Meanwhile, Al Iannazzone summarizes what was going on at Nets headquarters over the last two days, including draft and trade discussions, mostly centered on Yi Jianlian; as well as a visit from Mikhail Prokhorov and Avery Johnson's job interview.
- Nets trade Chris Douglas-Roberts to Milwaukee - Dave D'Alessandro - Nets Blast
- Douglas-Roberts dealt to Bucks - Julian Garcia - The InterNets
- Nets deal Chris Douglas-Roberts to Bucks for pick in 2012 - Julian Garcia - New York Daily News
- Nets trade Douglas-Roberts to Bucks for draft pick - Tom Canavan
- Nets Were Busy and Will Remain Active - Al Iannazzone - In the 'Zzone
- Thorn Talks CDR, James - Al Iannazzone - In the 'Zzone
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CDR today on Twitter
cdouglasroberts
First of all,I want to thank the entire Nets Organization & staff.If I could I’d name all of you.I want to thank the President Rod Thorn for
Working w/me on this trade.I’m very appreciative.I also want to thank ALL my die-hard Nets fans.Y’all kept my spirits high thru that rough..
Season las year.I’m very grateful to have as many fans as I do.My Nets jersey is still on back order from you guys.I enjoyed my time here.
Now,the rumors.I jus want to make this clear,I’ve NEVER been a bad teammate or lockeroom guy.NEVER!!No matter how bad times were,I NEVER…
Complained in the lockeroom or around teammates!!However,coming from a Memphis program where I lost 10 games in 3 yrs,it was VERY HARD…
Dealing with all the losing!!ALL I care about is WINNING!!Even when I was averaging 18ppg I was still sick every night b/c we were losing!
I wish CDR the best
Good luck with his new situation I think Skiles will get the best out of him, he asked Lawrence Frank and he still loves him.
exactly
his college coach and his 1st pro coach vouch for him, so it will be laughable to read some of the stuff that gets written in this thread…that is quickly exploding lol
Good luck CDR
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Dave D...
….said that the “cancer” label was overblown but Chris visably quit out there. That in itself is deserving of a trade.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
excuse me
but you visibly quit on your teammates, you ARE a cancer. There’s a fundamental disconnect there. How can you be a positive influence in the locker room if you quit on your teammates.
who is giving CDR a pass for quitting?
I’m just mentioning that the stuff about him being this complete locker room terror, on the level of a Zach Randolph, was said to be overblown by Dave D.
There is no excuse for quitting, ever.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of players quit last year tho
It was a rough season, Lopez even visibly quit a bunch of times, even left the games early, but I think a change of scenery is best for him, and yes quitting is never a good thing, but I feel last year was a year where you have to put in your back pocket and forget about, none of the players ever had trouble before last year.
The only player....
….that I can that did not quit at any point was Lee, who while he may have been garbage offensively some nights, still hustled on defense. Lopez was visably disgusted with himself and his teammates. Everyone else at one point or another said to hell with it, so I don’t understand why CDR is considered the only one a 12 win team that quit.
Harris was going through the motions all season, aside from his solid February.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the major things I appreciate about Courtney
Although it will be hard to forget his declaration that he would be an All-Star before the season started last year.
He’s a great role player, though. I hope we can utilize him effectively next year.
by Newark2Brooklyn on Jun 25, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Lee did not say that he'd be an all star
that was Shaq.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha. I think he mentions how many points per game he averaged in every conversation he has.
You could be talking with CDR about baking a cake and he’ll tell you about his ppg.
CDR is twittering a whole speech
About how he loves Nets fans, and was never a bad teammate, and -
Unfollow cdouglasroberts
ahh…. peace and quiet.
what possesses you to follow someone that you don't like on twitter?
It’s baffling folks…
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep making excuses...
It just looks really stupid when you complain about what people tweet. Don’t you notice how the word “tweet” sounds really informal and laid-back? Maybe because that’s the way it’s meant to be…it’s not for hardcore word-for-word analysis.
the twitter analyzing is lame
I remember a couple months back Net Income posted an entry about a tweet that either T-Will or CDR made, and wrongly assumed that one of them was taking a shot at either a coach or a teammate, something to that regard. The entry was quickly deleted I guess after he or someone else realized that the comments were taken out of context, but that was a brilliant example of how stupid the whole twitter stuff had become between the fans and CDR/T-Will
Posting on twitter=justification for trading a 10ppg scorer for nothing.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Right now the CDR trade looks like one of the worst moves Rod Thorn has ever made.
I was hoping to read, since the trade can’t be finalized until July 8 (similar to the Kirk Heinrick move) that we would be would be reading that the deal would be modified and might include say Tiny Gallon, who was coincidentally picked up by the Bucks and who the Nets apparently coveted with the #31 pick.
Nets have no backup Center (unless they plan to promise DLee minutes at backup center in an attempt to recruit him), but then Nets don’t even have a backup SG??? What went wrong? Why couldn’t Nets buy a pick??
CDR would be looking real good right now.
Nets only saved $370,000 in cap space. It would be 10 times as much saving to get rid of Yi.
It must have been that Nets didn’t want to take a chance in the locker room. However, as of right now, CDR could have been given significant PT (more than with Bucks) and might have been fine in locker room.
CDR, if you are reading this, you should hold off until you are sure the trade formally goes through.
We may need you back here, more than Bucks need you.
HELP
We have no backup SG, unless a miracle comes upon TWill.
Oh spare us
In the 10 years Thorn has been GM, only one trade has come back to bite him…only one time has a player done better AFTER he left the Nets and that was Stevie Jackson.
No one other than Jackson, from Jason Kidd to Hassan Adams, has proven Thorn wrong. It may be his best attribute.
It was bad because he got nothing back, didn't help with cap space and left the Nets without a backup to CLee.
He could have just waiting a week and tried harder to get something back or else just buy him out on June 30.
exactly
You can’t justify trading the kid for nothing, no matter how much you dislike him.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant to say, just not pick up his option, if nothing worked out.
Rod took the easiest way out. Surely CDR is better than some of the 2nd round picks from last night. With the right team he wouldn’t be much of a problem.
Thorn did not get value
Right on. It was a TERRIBLE trade. OK, I understand Thorn wanted to get rid of CDR. Fine. But what was the urgency to just throw him off the team in an OPEN-ENDED deal where you don’t know exactly what the Bucks are giving you back in return!
That like I have a 1998 BMW with 80k miles where I sell it on eBay for an undetermined amount “somewhere in the low $1000s.” A couple days later, the buyer provides me real number of $1000.
STUPID DEAL, STUPID TRANSACTION.
Nets seem desperate to get Yi off of the books
Hopefully they can get some type of value back for Yi, since they clearly didn’t try to with CDR. The Bucks got the best of us on this one. I suppose we’re even now after we took a dump on them with the RJ deal
This thread will probably have 400 replies by the time i come back from lunch, the argument will probably be brutal.
Demens and Net Income, i’m ready when you are lol
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
glad to see the attitude changing
We have a coach that doesn’t play games, and now we are purging the roster to change the atmosphere. CDR first, Yi next. Problem causing and soft play are NOT ALLOWED here anymore. Good.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
We cleared cap room
I think we got the best out of the deal. We got to evaluate a talent, realized that he is epic fail, and we got cap room.
Milwaukee is lucky that they were able to mollywop San Antonio over the head with Jefferson. That is easily one of the worst contracts in the league right now. 15 million for no defense, a fading offensive game, and general apathy.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol at least cut RJ a little bit of slack
since players in SA’s system usually do considerably better in their 2nd seasons w/ them.
LOL I like RJ...
…I just think that he’s gone into the toilet overall.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully they can get some type of value back for Yi
Word is we’re gonna have to giftwrap a 2nd rounder to get rid of him. He and Hump are gonna be dumped, says Iannazzone, and we could use a 2nd rounder to entince other teams to get them off our hands. If we rid ourselves of both of them, we’ll have room for 2 max deals.
CDR had a bad attitude
I’d rather have him off the team.
Thorn on WFAN right now
It really sounds like Favors has a high likelihood of not being here for very long.
Not surprised
Favors fans need to get realistic.
He may have already cost the Nets the ability to get LeBron.
Thorn has to work fast to dump Yi and keep Favors available as a tool.
Um absolutely not
Thorn basically is saying that Favors is a prospect that so many teams want, and come free agency, he may be a very valuable chip in a trade.
how can a rookie...
…cost the Nets a chance at Lebron James?
Do you honestly think Lebron will base his decision on some 18 yr old kid????
Let cousins go dude
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
There are 2 forces at work
and they both have to deal with the spin cycle
like cousins was the x-factor. rodd said that they saw him as a "stone cold 5"
so who else you want?… wes who plays SF… c’mon…
But Favors (if he isn't moved before the season) would be a "stone cold" reserve 4, most likely behind David Lee.
Avery indicated that he would be brought along slowly.
I really don’t see the difference. At least Avery truly believed he would work well with Lopez, before the “hype machine” started.
Avery: “AJ covets his toughness and sees Cousins-Lopez as rugged front court defenders”
Lord have mercy give it a break already
Cousins is NOT here. The nets picked Favors Over Cousins. Why you ask, I dont know let me give you several reasons
1- Hes a better prospect
2- He not as risky
3- He has higher upside
4- He doesnt require a babysitter
5- Hes better trade bait…because….hes a better prospect and not as risky..
AND Last IF we keep him….OMG…he plays PF not Center.
Oh and I just checked with LBJ and WWW and the entire Lebron ego camp and last I heard they DONT make decisions based on rookies- they make it based on $, marketing opps and who else they can bring along for the ride……
I love your passion, but please the propoganda is at an all time HIGH.
at O Dog
Did you listen to Thorn’s interview with Francesa? When asked if he sees Favors as a chip, he said both Favors and Cousins are great trade chips, bc teams want them. He says they didn’t take Cousins bc he’s a stone cold C. Thorn said that if they didn’t have Lopez, he would have taken Cousins WITHOUT HESITATION. What does that tell you? He seems to think Cousins is the better player, he didn’t take him bc we have Brook.
The Nets drafts Favors not Cousins. If the only thing that’s gonna make it palatable for you is Favors getting traded as part of some bigger deal, then that’s on you.
I think ESPN painted a pretty good picture of what is gonna take to get Lebron and as of right now we don’t fully have it and it’s not because of Favors.
gotta weigh your options
that’s an added bonus in drafting a player like this.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
horrible trade.
The Nets better get Yi out of here. For all the trouble CDR was I at least know he has a future in the league. He was a second round pick and live up to those expectations.
As for Yi the same can’t be said about him.
by killa kadafi191 on Jun 25, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
This offseason stinks...
I was waiting so long for this. So many nights I would lay in bed thinking about the possibilities. They are going to do something aren’t they? This isnt going to end up being a bench player and David Lee is it?
Starting to stink
I agree, man. I’m beginning to strongly suspect all this hope we had will NOT materialize into much.
LeBron is supposedly looking for an Apt. in Manhattan, but rumor has it that he and Bosh are going to Chicago.
Here is the Huffington Post story about LeBron looking for a Manhattan Apt.
Of course no one covering the story would say that he is looking to move there so that he can be close to Manhattan while playing for the Nets.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/25/lebron-james-apartment-hu_n_624812.html#comments
At least the Nets have a chance to help prevent James from going to Knicks, by signing DLee in early July.
Lee was rumored to be a tool in a S/T for Bosh.
Woj column
Woj’s column this am makes it seem like Chicago is way ahead of the other options.
I don't think the Bulls can sign 2 full Max FA yet, that includes LeBron and Bosh.
I also don’t think LeBron would agree to be to subservient to DWade in HIS house (Miami).
So I think it is between Chicago (Jordan issue) and Nets (only if they can get rid of Yi and be prepared to turn Favors into Gold).
After listening to Thorn on Mike Fran
i highly doubt Favors will remain a Net….. he is def trade bait….
Good Trade
CDR will be leading the Sydney Kings to the NBL championship in 2 years.
WoW!!!
What a load of crap by CDR!!!
If this guy was such a good teammate he would of embraced his 6th Man Role. Play 20+ minutes coming off the bench. Attack the rim and play some defense.
One thing is for sure. It wasnt all his fault. CDR blame FRANK for starting you. GIVING you false HOPE. You were never a starter in the NBA.
Skiles will play him where he belongs, 6th Man. He did it with Gordon and he will do it with CDR and he will be good.
Good Luck CDR.
I wouldnt have traded CDR but I can understand WHY Thorn did it.
CDR
CDR has really bad attitude check out his twitter!!! i am so happy he is gone from our locker room!! now next up is YI. Yi sucks he cannot do anything, he plays like a girl, i am not gonna lie but i like hump better. atleast he uses his body. I Want YI out of here now!!!!! and about the draft i love wht nets did.. first not accepting granger deal, that would have killed us and favors and james(not lebron lol)….i loved it NETS r doing everthing right!!!! I love rod thorn, he is smart man and knows wht he is doing,and since heat and knicks have more cap space, i think we should make a trade for a allstar to attract lebron or anyone else here……………
um...
…..other than him responding to Nets fans trying to antagonize him, he’s talking about his future with his new team and he had positive stuff to say about the Nets. Really bad stuff there….this kid CDR man, he’s frickin’ Hitler in a pair of Nikes I tell ya!!!!
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey
i know he is hitler!!!! anyway any update on cp3 trade?
by devinharris34 on Jun 25, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
hopefully it doesn't happen
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I want...
…CP3 as our PG. i don’t want CP3 with one leg as our PG. The guy’s injured.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
probably becuase his last injury is too much of a risk
especially with what we’d give up
and having to take on Okafor's contract as well
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Kiki screwed him up
He was playing as well as anyone under LFrank. He may have had some flaws but he could get to the rim and finish in the NBA which made him a minority among Net wings. Then Kiki came along and screwed him up. I said over at the old site that CDR was like Cris Carter of the Eagles / Vikings, whose trade Buddy Ryan justified by saying “all he does is catch touchdowns”. All CDR did was put the ball in the basket. Good luck man.
are you really trying to give Kiki some kind of credit?
There were games where the Nets offense stalled stone cold, or Jarvis Hayes was playing like dog crap, and could have put CDR in there for a spark, but he, like CDR, let his personal feelings get in the way of team success and he left him on the bench.
You all KNOW it was personal when CDR publicly made a comment about how the Del Harris situation was blamed on him. Kiki would have preferred that CDR take the fall for Harris quitting instead of getting exposed as a backdoor dealing snake in the grass.
Both are to blame.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on both points
Their suckitude and over level of fail were of epic proportions
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Under Frank
They had half the roster on the injured list, including Harris, Dooling, Lee, Yi, etc.
Goodbye and Good Riddance
The guy could ball and had potential to be a pretty good player in this league (doubtfully a starter but a great 2nd rotation player), but he simply could not keep his mouth shut and acting completely unprofessional in the process. On an added note, Twitter should be banned not only for every player on the Nets, but for the rest of the world as well. I wish the guy luck wherever he lands but I will not follow his progress, nor will I care.
"We aim above the mark to hit the mark." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
the Nets weren’t going to pick up his option and everyone knew it. They had zero bargaining power. Getting a second round pick for CDR was preferable to getting nothing for him.
And to those who think that the Chicago second-rounder next year will be worthless: Um, right now the Bulls have, what, two players on their roster? Three? Didn’t they also dump their first-round pick? If they can’t tempt a couple of high-profile free agents in the off-season, they could easily suck next year (of course, a second round pick in Thorn’s hands is next to worthless whereever it ends up).
The Bulls appear to be the top destination for Lebron James...
…if they land him and another player, that pick will be worth about as much as the lint in my pocket.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
pssst dumpy....watch your mouth
…..but i see your point. But it can go either way. Chicago also has cap space to sign other players, regardless, and add pieces to their core. Thinking that the pick will be valuable is pretty far fetched…
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
CDR's new valet...
“I got you young fella. You’re takin care of @tinygallon24. Jus make sure you’re careful when carrying my LV luggage to the plane. Hahahaaa! "
“@cdouglasroberts ahahahahha man don’t do me like that Bra.. Do the other Rookies not me lol”
CDR
Good riddance. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Enjoy Milwaukee.
Worst trade since Kerry Kittles for a second rounder.
Maybe worse because of Kerry’s knee troubles and the fact those issues forced him out of the league shortly therafter.
CDR is better than what we traded him for and was cheap. I don’t care if he was a cancer…. Hope he could improve and if not, you could get the same 50-something pick 10 years in the future if you trade him mid-season. He has enough talent to be a rotation player on a good team.
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