Draft Grades Handed Out ...They're Good So Far
by Net Income on Jun 25, 2010 11:54 AM EDT
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PrintWe stopped thinking post-draft assessments were important back in 2005 when Dick Vitale proclaimed that Antoine Wright could have a Dywane Wade career. The draftniks loved the Marcus Williams' pick in 2006 too.
Still, it's fun to compare your appraisal with those of the draftniks. They've started handing them out and so far so good.
Chad Ford of ESPN gives the Nets a "B" but wonders if the Nets see Derrick Favors as "more of an asset than a cornerstone of the franchise.". Like a lot of the draftniks, he thinks Damion James has potential: "James is more of a "now" pick. The four-year senior has the toughness and experience to help right away. Think James Posey." John Hollinger added, "I'm pretty fond of the player New Jersey selected at 24."
Tom Ziller of FanHouse also gives the Nets a "B", calling the two picks: "one power forward of the future and one role player. Not a bad night."
But the best grade, an "A+", comes from Tony Mejia of Pro Basketball News. He calls the pick of Favors over Wesley Johnson a "smart move" describing Favors as a "potential franchise player", and says of James: "There's no question the Texas senior will see a lot of minutes right out of the gate. Expect him to endear himself to all the city folk with his grimy hard-nosed play."
Bill Simmons, the Sports Guy, doesn't hand out grades, just good lines. He says Favors "might be the best 2010 rookie when everything's said and done." He also hands out a little too much information on James: "the Texas scorer who has a hygiene fetish and showers four times a day. (Not making that up.)"
- 2010 NBA draft results: Draft grades - Chad Ford - ESPN Insider
- NBA draft: Who is on the move? - John Hollinger - ESPN Insider
- Bill Simmons: 2010 NBA draft diary - Bill Simmons - ESPN
- Draft Review: Nets - (Video) - David Aldridge, Lawrence Frank & Ron Thompson - NBA.com
- 2010 NBA Draft Grades - Adi Joseph - NBADraft.net
- 2010 NBA Draft Grades - Tom Ziller - FanHouse
- Draft grades: Hinrich key to Bulls rebuilding dynasty, Wizards resurgence - Tony Mejia - Pro Basketball News
- 2010 NBA Draft: First-round grades - CBS Sports
- 2010 NBA Draft Grades: Did The Clippers Actually Win? - Matt O'Brien - SB Nation
- 2010 NBA Draft: Winners and Losers Chris Guest - Hoops Report
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How much money did the Nets save by trading the 27th and 31st for the 24th (assuming the 31st goes for a minimum contract)?
I think we lost cap room in that deal
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
hell YEAH
a dude that isn’t afraid to get his hands dirty, because he can clean them later.
No more sissies and pantywaists on this team.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
yes.
legs, arms, jaws, teeth, eye sockets, everything else in between
NO LAY UPS ALLOWED IN THE PRU
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And that's just the coaching staff lol
by TheMann2 on Jun 25, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jid, if you read the information above, Damion James is quoted as being a hard worker and “Expect him to endear himself to all the city folk with his grimy hard-nosed play”. Further below, apparantly James is, “the Texas scorer who has a hygiene fetish and showers four times a day.” Therefore, he’s a grimy, hard-nosed player who cleans himself a lot hahaha.
"We aim above the mark to hit the mark." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
Draft grades..
…don’t mean a damn thing right now. It takes at least 2 yrs to really review a draft.
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Jun 25, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions
I guess,,,
…i should have just “+1” lol
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Jun 25, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Mannix gives the Nets a D-
Apparently, solely because they tried to trade the number 3 pick and he doesn’t know how Favors will turn out. Wow. He just double-jumped Kelly Dwyer in my mainstream douchebag writers rankings.
we were the only one who got a D
The dude is a Hater!
is that the same guy...
who said AJ "loves’ Cousins, or was that Jerry who used the “love word”
Mannix is a PUTZ!!!
Yea agreed
he lost all credibility when he gave the magic and A (yea an A) for drafting their third string center in Daniel Orton…and because he gave the knicks a higher grade than the nets even though they picked rautins way too early and then proceeded to pick a guy nobody has ever heard about with multiple seven footers left on the board (something the knicks desperately could use)
by downtownbrown77 on Jun 25, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
This was in response to
Accelerate’s post
by downtownbrown77 on Jun 25, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Lost credibility with this too
Is Evan Turner going to be a good player? No question. Was he the consensus No. 2 pick? Absolutely. Is he going to be better than Wesley Johnson in three years? Ehhhhh.
Would have been "A" if ...
We had given cash to the Hawks to keep our 31 and gotten a great player with it. That is the most upsetting aspect of the draft. I would love an explanation on that.
On a semi-unrelated note, why I think should emulate the Thunder and their flexibility
Before the draft, Thunder general manager Sam Presti explained that, too often, folks have a narrow view of cap space, as if the only way to use it is to toss it at free agents. Not necessarily. One thing that Presti has demonstrated time and again is that, thanks to NBA rules, keeping your own payroll in nifty shape has an added benefit—it allows you to make a something-for-nothing trade, taking advantage of teams who are in a contract mess.
It was how the Thunder nabbed small forward Thabo Sefolosha from the Bulls. It’s how they got backup point guard Eric Maynor from the Jazz. They got quality players and, in both deals, gave up virtually nothing.
"The important thing is the flexibility," Presti told Sporting News. "If you are under the cap, you can absorb contracts and get some pieces you might not otherwise get. It gives us the ability to do some things that, if you’re not under the cap, you can’t accomplish."
As the NBA draft approached, Presti was at it again. The Thunder got the Heat’s pick (No. 18) simply by agreeing to take on former 3-point champ Daequan Cook. Oklahoma City will pay Cook $2.1 million next year, and for that price, they were able to package picks and make a deal with New Orleans for the No. 11 pick. To do that, they had to take on Morris Peterson’s salary, which comes in at $6.6 million next year.
The prize: Center Cole Aldrich, a legit big man whose defensive mindset should fit in nicely with coach Scott Brooks and the Thunder.
The Thunder have collected oodles of high-quality young assets, starting with Durant—and the team’s next challenge is signing him to an extension. They’ll deal with the same issue when it comes to forward Jeff Green this summer, and with point guard Russell Westbrook next summer. In other words, the Thunder’s vast store of cap space will soon dry up as the team begins to pay sizable extensions to its core.
But, in the interval, Presti deserves credit for taking full advantage of the space he has had while he has had it, collecting assets and piling on the young talent. Indeed, he was at it again on draft night.
Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Baseline#ixzz0rswupfPV
That is how you take advantage of cap space while you still have it. They nabbed a second team all defensive guy and a possible starting center with their smart cap management
This is why I would be fine with us signing nobody this summer
Flexibility gives you options. Options can give you assets. Assets which often can exceed their stated monetary value. Assets which you could then utilize any which way, whether keeping them to help yourself, or trading them to the tons of other teams who want them for something valuable.
Presti...
…also has to properly manage his cap space because he knows damn well that OKC is not an attractive destination.
Teams like that have to build in house. I think we take a page from their book, but spend when we have to. Adding Rudy Gay to our young core group should be #1 on our list once we do this lame song and dance with Lebron James.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
if david lee cant be had for, say 9 M, then forget him.
let’s get RGay and let him develop around our young core.
RGay – 13M
DLee – 9M
Then let’s not sign anymore big contracts and save the cap space.
You guys think RGay can be had for 13M?
Mannix is an idiot
He also said we “passed” on Quincy Pondexter. How could we pass on Pondexter, who was drafted 26th, when we had the 27th pick?
Chris Mannix needs to learn how to do his job
I don’t post, but reading his grade on the Nets makes him look like a dumbazz. His last sentence has him wondering why we didnt take Pondexter. Because 24 was not our pick knucklehead we traded for it. Nice to get paid when you have no idea what you are talking about.
by Robert Zimmerman on Jun 25, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
Is Chris Mannix's defense
he’s useful as a negative indicator. If he makes a prediction, bet against it.
by calling all toasters on Jun 25, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions
The Simmons diary is funny as s%$&
Our featured speaker for “Atrocious GM Summit II” next February, the one, the only, David Kahn! He’s giving a lecture titled “How To Drive A Potential Franchise Guy To Europe For Three Years, Pass On Stephen Curry For An Undersized Point Guard Who Can’t Guard Anyone, Then Convince Your Fans That Everything’s Fine.” We’re delighted to have him.
by calling all toasters on Jun 25, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
The 3rd pick was cookie cutter and...
they got a role player. That draft was good like finding 10 dollars on the ground is good. It’s not like you did anything to get it and it was layed right out there for you.
Alex Raskin @ hoopsworld says “Perhaps no team did as much to improve itself on Thursday as the Nets did.”
Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16603#ixzz0rtTR3kk7
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A quick look at the Nets revamped roster shows a team on the verge of becoming a great defensive force. Brook Lopez, Terrence Williams and Courtney Lee are all plus defenders. Throw in Favors and James, two guys who project as good defenders at the next level, and things are smelling sweet in the Garden State. Perhaps no team did as much to improve itself on Thursday as the Nets did.
Exactly
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 25, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
YESSSSS!!!
and then let’s add RGay and have avery at him do defense!
We did OK
We got a potential star at 3 and a solid mid 1st. I am thrilled. But something went missing. Was Mikhail AWOL during the trading action to pick up an extra mid-1st draft pick? What the f happened? How can it not be worth the $ to have a shooter? If nothing else, the pick’s value would have been preserved for a future trade.
OK not good enough
…when you are trying to go from worst to first. Don’t expect to get there in one draft, but giving up the first pick in the second round is not the move of the supposed most aggressive, deep-pocketed team in the league.
We already have a young team
We can’t have a team full of rookies and second year players, were going to need veterans to an thats what free agency is or.
Thorn is looking to trade
The draft was a missed opportunity to pick up a shooter we desperately need. But just getting extra assets for cash would have been of help. Mikhail, where is the determination to win?
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