Would Philly REALLY draft Favors over Turner...?
by dogra on Jun 2, 2010 7:14 PM EDT
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PrintGranted, this is just from a HOOPSWORLD rumor chat, but is it possible there is fire where there's smoke here? I could definitely see Collins being a big AI2 supporter.
I'm not sure how'd I'd feel about Turner over Favors at this point....
JB in NJ:
im looking at some of the mock drafts. (particularly this one here at the site) Any reason why you guys have Favors at #2 and Turner at #3? Is Favors stock rising? Any inside info that we don't know?
Steve Kyler:
If Philly keeps the pick, they are not likely to draft Evan Turner... I can speak only about my picks, because we do these Mocks separately for a reason.
Sources close to the situation say that Doug Collins is committed to Andre Iguodala and plans to make him a focal point player... also the current management can't survive a mixed season... they need the draft to yield big upside guys and they need to be in the playoffs next year.
The only way that works with Turner is if you trade Iggy and Doug doesn't want that to happen.
I have spent time with both Turner (who I like a lot) and Favors, and like many who have started looking at him, he's the second best prospect in the draft and could have the biggest upside of the bunch... Turner is the most ready to play, in a very Brandon Roy kind of way.
I don't think you pass on an Amar'e Stoudmire, Dwight Howard type upside and Favors is that kind of guy...
If Philly trades the pick, all bets are off.
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That was before Doug Collins was hired and made promises to Iggy.
But if Nets or Minny offered up enough of a package and the Iggy-Turner situation appeared to be a problem waiting to happen, then it might be possible.
I would be really upset with Thorn if he didn’t pursue a trade and even more upset if he let Minny outbid him for the #2 pick.
The way Thorn should approach the situation is to offer future draft pick first + #3 pick, to test out Phila. interest. Then see what Phila. would ask for – probably CLee + draft picks.
I doubt anything gets decided before days before the draft.
However, I think Phila would be really DUMB to just take Favors or Cousins without getting compensation from Nets, who really would like to have Turner.
what are you talking about?
that was yesterday my dude lol
Besides the fact that we need a PF...Why wouldnt we...
trade #3, CLee, and Warriors 1-7 for the #2 and Turner???
I would do that trade if you replaced Courtney Lee with Chris Douglas-Roberts.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jun 2, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
you gotta give em better than CDR
CLee as good as he is defensively and will get offensively, I believe is replaceable.
Right. You have to think in Phila. terms. They are in the drivers seat.
CLee is good, but he wouldn’t get much PT if Nets had Evan Turner, and played him mostly at SG.
I think that Collins would like CLee, since he appreciates defense.
Also, as you say, Nets prefer to get a ready to go PF from free agency.
I personally think Turner will be more valuable that Iggy, especially considering age.
Iggy also seems to be a hard guy to get along with, unless he is the top dog.
Turner would become Nets leader for next 12 years (unless they land LeBron).
Turner would be much better off on Nets.
this
the idea of giving up that much to move up one pick is absurd. I think Turner can be a great player but that’s insane.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
for a game changing type of player, I think not.
CLee? He can be replaced. Future Warriors pick?…so we’re gonna keep waiting on more potential? #3? It’s swapping picks.
It’s not too much at all.
Thats too many assets to give away to move up one spot. I’ll take my chances keeping the pick and take whoever of Favors or Turner falls to us.
Favors or even Cousins are as much potential franchise players as Turner. If we are going on potential alone Favors would be above Turner. Turner is simply the safest bet right now but I would certainly think the risk of Favors potential would be worth taking if available at 3. But none of us can see the future so who knows how good everyone ends up being. I just don’t think 2 lotto picks and Lee are worth moving up one spot when we don’t know if Turner will just be there at 3. I just can’t say Turner is undeniably a better prospect than Favors.
Its more than potential...it's potential plus what's already there
Turner is a quality leader; a glue guy. He’s a game changing type of player. His activeness all over the court plus the great head he has on his shoulders and the love for the game he has is not very common to find all together.
I’ve said it before and I know its a huge statement, but I feel getting Turner is like picking up Tim Duncan in a SG’s body. Leadership, fundamentals, versatility…just a sound player with sound skills to build upon.
by NJQuestCat on Jun 2, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1. Good Analogy - Tim Duncan if he was a SG. I use the anology of a poor man's cross between Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson.
Here is a reminder for anyone who hasn’t seen the more recent “typical” Evan Turner footage:
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/blogs/Video_Evan_Turner_highlights.html#axzz0p2GxeGxn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVEj—pU8Is&feature=related
+1, had to rec this
Dude is a potentially franchise changing player. Thorn should be doing whatever possible to try and move up to pick him, instead of settling for the raw pogo stick and the fat guy in a little coat
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 3, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
'scuse me...
..“potential”
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 3, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
If Philly management can't survive a mixed season
why on earth would they pick Favors who wont be ready to contribute much this year?
I wondered the same thing.
However, if they got CLee as part of the “swap” with Nets, they could justify deal.
They could also consider Cousins, who I understand they will be working out at same time.
If Cousins looks good in terms of being in better shape, he could be the pick of either Phila. or Nets.
Not sure of Collins feeling towards Cousins.
Cousins + CLee + draft pick(s) would make a splash.
Don’t forget, whoever lands Cousins is going to be getting plenty of National TV coverage.
People want to see what he can do.
I don't understand how drafting a big upside guy
guarantees them a play-off spot next year. If anything wouldn’t the more polished turner do that?
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
You know...i like the combination of trading for Turner and pickin Avery as head coach
Being that Turner is ultra responsive to coaching/criticism and Avery is extra demanding…I think Turner would follow his lead well to the extent that it rubbed off on his teammates.
this coaching job, understandably, has to come down to Thibs, Avery, Monty, and the far out chance of Phil
Rod Thorn is probably thinking about what kind of coach it would take to get LeBron here and not settling for ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jun 3, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Hence...no hiring until PhilJ makes up his mind
Remeber in the good old days when Thorn really wanted Kevin G. He always shoots for the best.
I think we could’ve gotten KG if we gave up KMart, RJ and Kittles but Thorn wanted to replace RJ with KVH. We also could’ve gotten Rasheed if we were willing to take on Reuben Patterson (Thorn wanted to retiring center’s expiring contract).
For better or worse, Thorn shoots for the stars and never rushes.
Almost every year stories come out that say, oh maybe they pick this guy instead, maybe Chicago takes Beasley or Portland takes Durant instead
But in the end, they almost always go with what we thought all along. Same case here, it’s Turner.
and we're screwed.
If there is a God, he laughs at the posters on this site
Our collective misery would be his entertainment
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 3, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
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