Nets Work Out Qyntel Woods, "Could" Buy Second Round Pick
by Net Income on Jun 18, 2010 3:02 PM EDT
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PrintIt's a busy time for Avery Johnson. He's been watching draft prospects work out, studying film of others late into the night and talking to potential assistant coaches.
Friday, there was a bit of a break, as he and his wife, Cassandra, looked at a condo...but before he did, he looked at a prospect well beyond draft age. Qyntel Woods, the 6'9" swingman who played for the Blazers, Heat and Knicks before heading to Europe, was in for a workout. Johnson says he liked what he saw, but wouldn't say if Woods will be joining the Nets. Woods was charged in a bar fight two weeks ago in Poland.
Johnson has some roster spots to fill. Only five players have unencumbered contracts next season: Devin Harris, Yi Jianlian, Brook Lopez, Courtney Lee and Terrence Williams. Keyon Dooling is likely gone and there's no word yet on whether options on Kris Humphries (player) and Chris Douglas-Roberts (team) will be picked up.
Al Iannazzone reports that in addition to the Nets' three picks at #3, #27 and #31, two sources are telling him the Nets could buy an additional second rounder. A number of teams have multiple second round picks.
- Avery Doing Work - Al Iannazzone - In the 'Zzone
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this was my thoughts on this news:
use an extra 2nd rder to draft a euro stud, and stash him away.
God, it feels good to root for a team that has some purpose and direction
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 18, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Raises questions
1. Would the Nets be willing to draft Shved, retain his draft rights until his contract expires in Russia, then bring him over? If so, that would result in no upfront cost right now, correct? i.e. lead to no effect on current cap space
2. Instead, could Prokhorov buy out Shved’s contract for next season, using his leverage within CSKA?
3. How old is Shved? Could he be stashed for three years? That’s a long time.
I’m trying to figure out what the downside is.
Shved isn't much of a player.
Thats the only downside really. Its no guarantee that the Nets would even pick him if they do get an extra pick. I dont expect them to get a quality player, especially with Thorn at the helm, but its worth a shot, there is no down side.
Yeah, Randle
2nd best PG in the draft according to DraftExpress.
by calling all toasters on Jun 18, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, searching Youtube for videos of Alexey Shved...
you find more videos of guys named Alex getting their heads shaved than actual basketball footage.
Shved? Really?
I coulda swore it was Shved. I could be wrong. Maybe it is Shved.
by Joe Uras on Jun 18, 2010 7:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sounds like there is some anti-US sentiment in Poland due to US troops being on Polish soil. "Quyntel is the victim".
Punching someone out, once every 5 years is good enough to get him to the NBA championship before another incident!
I'd rather we buy a 1st rounder instead
teams are still losing money right? Someone’s bound to sell a late one
here's the issue
if you buy a first rounder, his salary automatically counts against the cap. If you buy a second rounder, the player has no guarantee…and the Nets will wait til the free agent circus has left town before signing him…and #31.
Agreed thats the best move
I dont think theres that much talent difference at the end of the draft, we will probably get somebody we kept our eye on.
Precisely...
And the moment we BUY a draft pick…is tje moment that Proky’s ownership will hit me.
Remember selling Korver for 125k?
The good old days of poverty.
by rundmc00 on Jun 18, 2010 3:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here is a similar question. If Phila. drafts Turner and trade him to Nets for #3 pick and xxxx, Nets would be liable for about $400,000 extra towards cap space.
Is there any way to get Turner in a trade, but with paying the lower #3 price?
somebody has to be willing to sell a first rounder for that to happen
and considering Torontos apparently been trying to buy one that doesn’t seem very likely.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Qyntel Woods looks like a pretty bad dude...
He seems to grow a good beard as well.
I could see Brook Lopez rooming with him on a road trip...
And Brook not sleeping a wink, with eyes wide peeking out from under the covers all night.
by Joe Uras on Jun 18, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
say they sign Woods
They could trade Humps straight up for AK47 to start.
They would have 3 tough players all with different skillsets, 2 triple double threats.
Andrei’s a problem on defense rebounding blocking shots and defending well with a 6’10 frame. We know TWill’s a good distributor if he adds a consistent shot look out.
Qyntel Woods was impressive his last year in the league. I don’t know how his play was last year overseas but Avery was impressed. He’ll be hungry back in the league, and best of all he’d come cheap.
Depending on matchups Andrei could play some 4 and TWill some point guard so there’s room for QWoods.
I can see it now: "The Shved Heads" ...
A bunch of college kids in the cheap seats with Dumb & Dumber Jim Carey bowl-cut wigs.
Teams with multiple second rounders
Lakers (43, 58)
Knicks (38,39)
Heat (41,42,48)
T-Wolves (45,56)
Pacers (40,57)
Thunder (32,51)
Suns (46,60)
I know Phoenix would love some extra scratch..
to give to their marketing team for all their hard work and dedication in their attempts to save Steve Nash’s hairline.
Google "Qyntel Woods"
And the autocomplete adds “dog fighting.” I guess if he were any good, we’d all know this story already, like with Michael Vick.
by calling all toasters on Jun 18, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
Its getting scary
There are a few developments that scared me today…
Seems as if the 76ers are drafting Turner according to the website gaff at least… Lebron is apparently wanting to go to the Knicks, and Amare is probably going to wind up with the Heat.
I see no option but to trade the #3 and actually get something out of it.
Foolishness
Of course the New York media is going to say LeBron is coming to them. They still think the NBA is Knicks-centric. They still think everybody outside the NYC beltway has that mid-90s view of the Knicks. Meanwhile, back in reality, they’ve been irrelevant for a while.
Its just Steven A. exagurating his story
I actually think Steven A. has some quality sources from time to time but what his sources told him was that Lebrons team are asking questions about Walsh and DAntoni. I dont know how that translates to Lebron prefers the Knicks. I’m sure in due time they will be making the same inquiries about Chicago, Heat, Nets and so on. They should be asking questions.
If Lebron goes to the Knicks
Its not about the management or winning its just about him, he will get what he deserves.
Yeah, he wont win anything, but the hype will put a permanet shadow over the Nets
You dont want Lebron on the Knicks if you’re a Nets fan. Even if you hate Lebron and hope he never wins anything, you still dont want him on NYK.
I want him on NYK
us beating them 4 times a year would shift a lot of hype over to us. LBJ’s a hype machine now but as he gets older if he doesn’t win anything the hype’s going to shift to younger stars.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
by Gina on Jun 18, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
If we don’t get Lebron I hope he goes the Knicks. It’s about being champs and I believe we will and they won’t even with him. He goes to the Knicks and it will ruin his career, Patrick got away without winning a title but Lebron would not.
The only reason the Knicks are rising (for LeBron) is that the Bulls are dropping.
According to Stephen A., LeBron is having 2nd thoughts (just as I predicted) about playing in Jordan’s shadow.
If Nets could trade for Evan Turner, LeBron would make NJ his #1 choice.
YOU CRACK ME UP...
Funny, how you seem to be the only one that predicts things, as if no one would have ventured to guess that LBJ going to Chicago might be too much to live up to, especially if he fails, and the liklihood of never matching Michael’s 6 rings is pretty strong…
I think that arguement doesn't hold much weight
For the player Lebron is trying to be, he will be in Jordans shadow no matter what team he plays for, it doesn’t matter if its Chicago. He will have pressure on him to win multiple championships anywhere he goes.
I don't think it's pressure so much as
if he comes here we’ll love him for ever. If he goes somewhere like Chicago he’ll never be their number 1.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
We'll love him until the next guy comes along
Look at Kobe. People are calling him the greatest Laker now and he was being compared to Jordan pretty much most of his career. Whatever is current is relevant. If Lebron goes to Chicago and wins 3 or 4 rings they will love him just as much as MJ.
I’m not saying MJs shadow is a non factor completely, but this is basically the only thing people use as a reason to back their argument of Lebron not going to the Bulls. I dont think its something that will be a deciding factor for him.
It might not be....
but, I think you’ll agree we need as many “cons” against the other teams contending for his services as possible… :-)
Also, Nets would have better team for LeBron if we got Turner and a PF from free agency.
Plus Proky and Brooklyn and JayZ and LeBron’s own team.
Nets have lots of advantages over Chicago, but unless Nets get their franchise player in Turner, the media will never even come close to figuring that out (only Avery would figure it out because he has been following the Nets for quite some time).
The stupid media like to convince themselves that the word Newark is Evil and thus no point to consider LeBron.
The only thing
I would dispute is that Turner would be the francise player… we’re trying to get our franchise player in LBJ, only room for one of those, but Turner would be a very nice additional piece to present LBJ with come July 1st.
ehhhh
Jordan had pippen
Shaq had Kobe
Wade had Shaq
Kobe had Pau
Nets, LeBron have Turner, Lopez, Amar’e…. <3
by Alex F on Jun 18, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough...
But the only rookie in the long time to step into that role was LBJ, and LBJ Turner is not… Pippen, Kobe, Wade, Pau were not considered franchise players, they evolved into them… Let’s not jump the gun on Turner, is all I’m sayin…. Not that we’re gonna get him anyway… So the whole point it moot!
Nicest thing NJNETS13 ever said about me.
And you are right that LBJ would become the new franchise player of course, (Turner with be the reserve franchise player, with Harris, David Lee and Brook right behind.)
Hell, it would be the best team in NBA, and getting Turner next week is holding it hope.
if lebron wants to go to the knicks let him
We can draft favors and build through the draft
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
by Gina on Jun 18, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So we draft Favors....
…..and pursue Rudy Gay and Udonis Haslem and continue to build from the ground up.
It’s not the end of the world. Lebron can go to hell and play for all i care, if he isn’t here, I could care less about him. Just another obstacle in our way in the East.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 18, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Doom and Gloom
That’s it, the end is nigh, the world is over, rumor of the apocalypse…yadda yadda yadda.
Let’s stay poised and keep our eye on the ball.
quickly
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on Jun 18, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I am completely indifferent about this. The chance of getting a rotation-quality player in the middle of the second round is essentially zero. Now, if they could purchase a pick in the #31-#35 range, that may be a different story. There may be a couple decent players available there, and I wouldn’t mind the Nets essentially doubling their odds.
There are actually 5-10 players each year, the chances being closer to 20% then zero
People have gotten so used to Thorn getting zero out of the 2nd round, they think its rare, well its not THAT rare. This is also the reason Nets fans are obsessed with CDR since he is the only 2nd rounder Thorn drafted that actually made some sort of a contribution.
yeah but its also still thorn making the pick
so the chance might still be closer to zero
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
T-Will talks to Avery...
http://twitter.com/TheRealTWill/status/16489243446
“Well I wanna see if your in shape, I have a great way I wanna use you Twill, so make sure you in shape”Coach Avery Johnson lol#wordaapp
via Chad Ford's Twitter:http://twitter.com/chadfordinsider
Cousins and Favors went head-to-head in Philly today. Once again, Cousins looked great. But you expect that. Cousins more polished rt now. </blockquote
The question with Favors will be … what’s he gonna look like in 3 years? Okafor looked better than D. Howard in Year One too …
I still think it is Cousins (not Favors) who Phila. wants, but they want to get something back before they give up Turner.
We need a whole topic on dissecting the Phila. events today.
What are Nets willing to give up for #2 pick and Turner? Certainly $3 million from Proky.
The Poker game may begin this weekend between Thorn and Stefanski.
They would probably have to give up CLee and possibly a protected 1st rounder… That just might be too much, but who knows… Philly may actually love Turner @ the 2, and are not going to move the pick, UNLESS, someone is willing to take Brand’s contract…puke…!!
I mean they did take him out on the town, and Collins said some pretty great things about him after yesterday’s workout…
Monday is a HUGE day!!!
Turner would be worth it
I would be happy with Cousins or Favors, but our team needs a leader and Turner is a leader. He would be worth giving up Lee OR both our later picks OR the Golden State pick for. Make Stefanski an offer he can’t refuse!
You might be right...
Let’s see what the NETS think. I’m sure if they don’t move up, we’ll hear about it after the draft if they attempted to do so.
LANetsFan, are you actually in Los Angeles? I live in LA…
Yup... in LA
Thank goodness for DVR and League Pass!
Buying a second rounder is a great idea depending.g upon where it is. In the 30’s you could Target Jerome Jordan as a backup center,.lance stephenson as a kid with upside potential and huge Brooklyn marketing potential, randle, tiny gallon or ebanks. A later pick I suspect the target is Da’Sean Butler…first round talent but had that horrible knee injury in final four. I would be a huge fan of taking Butler. Also this enables the Nets to add to roster with minimum salary cap implications. Much cheaper than filling end of bench with veteran minimum types.
by Ryan243 on Jun 18, 2010 7:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Get West Virginia's Da'Sean Butler (from Newark, NJ)
Buy a second round pick and take WV’s Da’Sean Butler, from Newark. Butler has talent and the only question is his knee injury. However, it’s a no-brainer for the second round.
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Go for Brian Zoubek!
The Duke center is projected by all of ESPN’s experts to go in the middle of the 2nd round and be a decent rotation player in the NBA. He won’t go higher, because his ceiling isn’t that high, but pretty much every scout says he’s going to be a decent 10-15 minutes a night back up center who plays good D. Jason Collins type.
The following names should be banned:
Scola
Haslem
Boone
Anyone else who is a scrub and we should not be projecting into our lineups. K thanks bye.
by Alex F on Jun 18, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions
Terrence Williams: "Well I wanna see if your in shape, I have a great way I wanna use you Twill, so make sure you in shape"Coach Avery Johnson. Twitter.com
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