Will the Nets Make It to Brooklyn by 2012?
Buried in a Brooklyn Eagle story on economic development in Brooklyn is a quote from the city's deputy mayor, Robert C. Lieber, that suggests Barclays Center might not be ready by Opening Night in October 2012.
"You will see the first game played at the new arena at the end of 2012 or no later than 2013," Lieber told a group of construction execs last Tuesday.
The Nets' Newark lease be extended for up to two years. For Barclays Center to be open by October, it must be completedy by July, then undergo a four-month "commissioning".
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It must be buried really well. I can't find the quote in the article by Linda Collins?
I thought that the lease in Newark will be for the next 3 years, already giving a 1year safety margin?
I also tend to believe that David Stern is a Dictator and will be make sure to be really lax about the 4 month “commissioning”.
It is important for noone involved with the Nets to suggest it won’t be ready for beginning of 2012 season. That would really hurt recruiting Free Agents, both this year and next year (when LeBron or Anthony should be considering the 2010-2011 playoff Nets).
Also, something that the Deputy Mayor couldn’t know, is how FCR and Prokhorov would be willing to work overtime to make the deadline.
I also don’t believe the 4 month timeline, to demolish DG’s condo, that was presented to the condemnation judge.
I read somewhere else that a Wrecking Ball is to be used.
It's there
run your find function.
—The Nets lease is for two years with an option for another two years.
—I dont think a few months delay is going to affect anyone’s decision and again, I note the Giants/Jets Stadium came in four months early because of the availability of materials and labor. And Ratner is a builder with a lot of experience in Brooklyn.
—Of course the Deputy Mayor would know that. He’s the deputy mayor for economic development. And the latest construction update notes there will be more work at night and on weekends.
—The problem with Goldstein’s condo building is that it is a sturdy former warehouse. And this being a residential neighborhood, you cant implode it. It has to be taken apart piece by piece.
Found it. Yes, no more than a 2 month delay in worst case.
Too bad they aren’t able to redesignate that property as commercial, with no residents being nearby.
An unfortunate accident to the foundation could cause the building to come down, without imploding.
I didn’t think a “Wrecking Ball” constituted “implosion”.
I wonder if they have to pay overtime for night and weekend work, or if they use different workers, getting around that extra cost.
Even the Mets stadium had to be taken apart piece by piece, a change in zoning would not make a difference
by ispartan on May 9, 2010 10:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's fine with me
I wouldn’t mind at least 2 and a half or three seasons of the Nets in Newark.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
WTC-esque problems
I won’t be surprised if they won’t make it to Brooklyn by 2012. As a person who has been following the WTC site since after the 9/11 attacks, I have heard numerous times when what was planned was going to be done, but those past deadlines came and went as the false starts occurred. I still think that the Fraudem Tower won’t be done by 2013 due to high costs let alone anything else here. I feel that the same will go for the AY complex. Let’s not forget that there is no set timetable for this project, so anything can happen in the near future. The court case known as Peter Williams vs NYS Urban Developement Corp can change things especially since it recquired the ESDC to come up with new information rather than what was used back in 2006. Nothing is set in stone these days.
Wasn't Williams required to drop out of that suit?
as part of his settlement.
WTC was slowed by litigation just as Atlantic Yards has been…that plus a lack of political leadership. Then, the economic collapse intervened. It’s also New York, where costs are higher than elsewhere.
Speaking of the WTC site
I got a letter printed on the NY Post not that long ago in response to what Chris Ward said on the momentum on it, plus it shows that I am still active even on that.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/letters/wtc_mediocre_makeover_YaWyuqv3orqZsGrZWUzpKM
The case was never dropped
It will still proceed as scheduled the last time I heard about it.
by Tal Barzilai on May 10, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Morph – as I’ve told you several times, New Jersey Nets fans are truly hoping you are right but it just doesn’t seem possible anymore to believe Brooklyn will fall through. This appears to be the end of our team as we know it. Even you want Prokorov – and Prokorov’s billions means no more New Jersey – he simply didn’t buy this team to own the team, he wants a piece of Ratner’s real estate killing.
Again, I urge you try and keep the hope alive for the Nets to remain in Newark for the long-term but I just don’t see how this does not get built unfortunately.
I want Proky's billions for two reasons:
1) He is in a position where he can quickly turn aornd the team’s fortunes WHILE IN NEWARK. People will associate the immediate success of the team with the Prudential Center, and the swelling masses that I know will support a quality product are guaranteed to make Proky think twice about following through on a $1 billion boondoggle when he could buy a stake in The Rock for a fraction of the cost. So the best position we as NJ Nets fans can take is to root for him to take over ASAP so we are as successful as possible over the next 2 years. It only helps Newark’s chances of keeping the team. Also, Proky may even be able to get the Devils at a bargain as well, if he so chooses. They have been a very successful franchise over the past 15 years (the last 3 years notwithstanding) and he may be the owner to put them back in Stanley Cup glory. The possibility of owning 2 major North American pro sports teams and a new arena that doesn’t need to be built for roughly half the price of Barclays has to be something he is considering.
2) Bruce Ratner continuing as the principal owner is both unacceptable and unthinkable. Another couple of seasons with the Rat at the helm will doom us to failure and heighten the possibility that not only the Nets leave NJ but the region as a whole. He’ll want to sell at a premium to the highest bidder. Meanwhile, Proky’s ownership guarantees no move out of the region. We really have no other options. It’s Proky or bust for us.
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