Johnson Interested in the Nets? Sounds That Way
by NetsDaily on May 14, 2010 6:56 AM EDT
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Rod Thorn has had a list of coaching candidates for a while, but now that Mikhail Prokhorov is officially his boss, he can finally take action. So when FanHouse reported Thursday morning that Thorn had reached out to Avery Johnson's agent on Wednesday--apparently with the blessing of Johnson's former point guard, Devin Harris--it was no surprise.
Not so fast. By Thursday afternoon, Al Iannazzone was reporting that we might be talking overreach rather than reach. "Our understanding was a conversation was had at some point and it wasn’t initiated by the Nets," wrote Iannazzone, clearly suggesting it was Johnson or his agent who made the call. In fact, writes Iannazzone and Fred Kerber, don't expect any real conversations until after next Tuesday's Draft Lottery.
Then, on the ESPN post-game show following the Celtics' elimination of the Cavaliers, Johnson extolled the Nets' chances of nabbing LeBron James. He noted the presence of Harris ("who I coached") and Brook Lopez, a lottery pick and plenty of cap space. His fellow analyst, Jamal Mashburn, added that the Nets need a coach and Johnson would be a great choice. "No, No, No," laughed Johnson.
- Nets Reach Out to Avery Johnson - Sam Amick - FanHouse
- Coach Speak - Al Iannazzone - In the 'Zzone
- Thorn Nets lots of calls - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Questions abound as NBA reshuffles - Peter Vecsey - New York Post
- Can the Nets make a splashy coach hire? - Kurt Helin - NBC Sports
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New Orleans is Avery’s hometown and there’s Chris Paul. New Jersey can offer more money, a much more promising roster, Brooklyn and more stable management.
The New York Media's Blatant Gimmick Coverage of LeBron James' Free Agency
http://couchsideseats.wordpress.com/2010/05/13/the-big-poisoned-apple/
New Orleans still has their ownership situation unsettled. There was word that Avery may not be their first choice at this time.
More reason to like Nets.
Thorn would have to wait until after the Lottery because that could sway his options.
If Nets get #3/#4 pick, then they would need a coach who could best handle Cousins.
If they get #1 pick, Rod might think that by taking Wall they could attract JVG to change his mind.
Another reason I hope Nets get #2 pick.
JVG has proven he could quit at any time.
Nets
The Nets have a brighter future, more money to offer, the right pieces (not just players) to become a ferocious franchise. The nets are going to be a completely new team next season, which is why the word “new” is being promoted for next season.."New"ark, “New” Arena, “New” Owner, “New” Coach, “New” Players (well not overall but definetely see some trades, and signings of free agent, and draft picks n possibly the number overall pick) He’ll also have an up and coming star center in lopez, a great defender and mediocre shooter in Lee, and a rising star in TWILL. The Nets just have more to offer rather than the Hornets. All they really have is a great point guard to run your offense around. New ownership helps out big time since Proko got money to blow unlike the RATner. Avery will get a nice big contract coaching for the New NETS.
Don't think that'll catch on.
But I expect the News and Post to wear out “Nyets.”
by madisonmetsfan on May 13, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
hometown is going to be hard to compete with.
194 Wins 70 Losses as a head coach in regular season play.
That is a 74% winning percentage.
How did JVG do with either team?
Of course there are other factors, but Proky and Nets can sell what they should pick Avery.
I rather have a different coach.
There is something about his voice that annoys me.
I also don’t think Harris will play any better defensively because of him. I still remember both of them always head-butting each other all the time back in Dallas, and now that Devin has been an All Star I doubt he’ll listen to him now.
Maybe it’s just me that feels this way, but I always thought that Devin has become more egotistical ever since he became an All Star last year. It’s like his ego is exuberating in a bad sense everytime I hear him speak during the interviews.
AJ is the best person to bring Devin's ego back to earth.
Maybe Doc Rivers could also, but Devin has something to prove to Avery, and he has to do it on the court.
I'm surprised
people aren’t on this thread lobbying for Devin Harris to coach.
I'm not sure I understand the context of that video.
I didnt’t see Avery lose his cool in that press conference.
His biggest mistake was not playing JKidd at the key situation.
I would like to see THAT press conference.
I don’t understand what you’re saying. The video’s taken from either Game 4 or Game 5 of the 2006 NBA Finals. Avery Johnson never coached Jason Kidd.
The New York Media's Blatant Gimmick Coverage of LeBron James' Free Agency
http://couchsideseats.wordpress.com/2010/05/13/the-big-poisoned-apple/
Avery was dismissed on April 30, 2008, one day after losing in the first round of the playoffs.
As I recall, he left JKidd out of the final play.
Kidd had a reputation as a poor 3 pt shooter. At that time he was right.
However he was fired the next day. People blamed JKidd.
In Avery's defense
that was a fishy serious and awful officiating. That said, can please give Mark Jackson an interview?
If he had Thibo by his side for 1st year, then maybe.
I don’t see any reason why Tom T. couldn’t also be selected as high paid Asst. Coach.
So much for the old Harris was in Avery's doghouse story.
make up or shut up?
I like avery
I like this…i really like this alot. Avery Johnson could teach this team how to play some defense
Avery is no upgrade (sure to Kiki anything is!) and not good enough for our hoped for future. Jackson (mark) and Thibdeau are better choices. Jackson brings a name and legacy and Thibdeau brings grit and toughness. Wow, he stopped Lebron. What more could we want? And I agree, Avery’s voice is totally annoying and remembering his presence at Dallas leaved a lot to be desired. He doesn’t look the part. Jackson is a long shot, but Thibdeau seems a no- brainer
Stop!!!!!
Jackson (mark) and Thibdeau are better choices.
Are you kidding me? Avery has head coaching experience. Do you know what his coaching record is – 194-70. What is is Jackson record? – 0-0.
One thing is for sure, Avery is going to instill what Frank and Kiki failed to DEFENSE and GIVE LOPEZ THE BALL!!!!! The experience of playing PG with Duncan will help.
i actually
like Avery as a coach too. I think the guy got the boot by Kidd. And his time away from the sidelines must’ve taught him something, and helped to analyze where he can be better as a coach.
I’d still prefer Van Gundy though.
by Versifiervt on May 13, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
great point
Avery would bang the ball into the paint, making sure that Lopez gets a solid amount of FGAs per game and he would demand discipline on both sides of the ball.
Avery Head Coach, Tom Tibs defensive coordinator. Spare no expense. The Nets need a firm hand in charge and a focus on defensive excellence. It’s time to change the culture of this franchise.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on May 13, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
What is your point?
Why do you want these retreads, let’s get some fresh blood in here. Jackson knows a lot about the game. People aren’t born with coaching experience
Michael Jordan knows a lot about the game...
…doesn’t mean that he’d make a great head coach either.
If Jackson had put time in as an assistant, sure. But he hasn’t. Being an NBA Head coach isn’t something that you learn on the fly.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on May 13, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
they're not born with coaching experience
but how many guys go straight to head coach before ever being an assistant? That’s more Jacksons problem that he literally has no experience in a coaching role. There’s a lot more to coaching than just X’s and O’s and it would be a lot to expect a guy with no experience to be able to teach such a young team.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Get Assitant coaches with experience
Players will respect Jackson. We have a rich owner, we can hire top assistants and more than average to help work with the players.
How can you say...
…that Jackson is a better choice over Johnson?
Johnson has coached a team to an NBA Finals appearance.
I won’t vouch for his in game coaching ability because I have heard Dallas fans crying about Avery’s rotations in the past but I’d give him a good look.
Devin can give his blessing all he wants, if we land that #1 pick he’ll be blessed with a one way ticket out of here!!!
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on May 13, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Jax vs Avery as PG's
I guess Mark has it because he did it longer. (hmm, not sure…?) Both had outstanding court vision, passing, defense, good scoring. Avery wins a footrace though.
How about this ........
Avery-Head Coach…..Mussina-Lead assistant…Thibdeau-Defensive Coach….Mark Jackson-Offensive Coach ….Bill Laimbeer-Big Man’s Coach…??….
I would settle for 1+3.
If Mark Jackson hasn’t been an assistant yet, he wouldn’t start now.
Perhaps money could sway Laimbeer to be something other than a head coach for any NBA team.
Was he a Big Man’s Coach in the past?
I'm not sure but
When he played for the Detroit Bad Boys he always acted as if he owned the Boards and the Paint and was very angry when others would trespass…..He did not jump too well but he had an obsession with rebounding and he played some mean defense.(Hard Fouls).That’s what I would like our Bigs to do…….Like Boston’s Big’s do…….
Anyone but Avery
I just woke up to read this. I hope this is some sort of sick joke.
NO, this is clearly a sign that Avery is at the top of the list of anyone not still in the playoffs except for JVG.
We suspected as much before, and now it is confirmed.
Nets need a strict coach who players respect.
Do you think DeMarcus Cousins could be handled by JVG as well as by AJ?
There are only three coaches LeBron would play for — Phil Jackson, Coach K, and JVG
by Wall or Bust on May 13, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
according to what?
not to mention if thats the case he as no choice but to stay in Cleveland anyway.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
um...
…says who?
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on May 13, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Abysmal
Avery Johnson, Jay Wright, Tom Thibodeau. That is their idea of a BIG SPLASH? Any of those guys could have been had when this team was in garbage. Now they are supposed to have all the assets known to man and they go after 2nd if not 3rd tier coaches??? Just sad. Swallow your pride Rod and get Rick Pitino on the phone – he definitely wants the job as oppoased to all the other high-profile guys this team is drooling for. You want to make a dent in New York – then call Rick or John Calipari. Otherwise try and pry Tom Izzo away from Michigan State.
:-D
Ever since Lawrence Frank was fired, the Nets knew they’d have to follow the lead of their new owner in picking the next head coach. So the assumption was that the flashy new owner with the big bucks would want a splashy new coach.
Not necessarily, says Rod Thorn.
“I think from my conversations with Mr. Prokhorov, he’s interested in a coach who can move the team in the right direction,” Thorn told Al Iannazzone. “Not necessarily a big-splash coach, but somebody who can move a team in the right direction.”
excellent
….the Russian wants substance, not flash. I have 100% faith in this man. Go NETS!!!
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on May 13, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
It depends on...
What the substance is made of. That fact the thorn called Avery Johnson says to me that they are looking for a flash, but Johnson is a coach that Thorn can control. Also since Johnson was a PG tells me that he’s the one whose going to mentor John Wall should we get the #1 next week
Avery Johnson and Tom Thibs...
…are accomplished NBA coaches. You are talking about making a big splash, and then go on to mention college coaches?
The only college coach that will get any money from this franchise, imo, is Coach K, and I think the man is smart enough to stay put at Duke where he has control and is paid handsomely.
Give me Tom Tibs in any manner, because we need to get back to playing defense.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on May 13, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
as long as it's not JVG or a college coach
or Mike Brown I’ll probably be fine with whoever they bring in.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I know you've explained before
but I can’t remember why you don’t want JVG?
by GeoffreySchmits on May 13, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't really have anything against him
It’s more that I think he’s kind of old school and that I’m not sure how well he’d evolve as the game evolves. I certainly think we can win with him I just think I’d rather take the chance with a more unknown commodity who might have more progressive ideas. With JVG you pretty much know exactly what you’re going to get and I’m not sure if his style would mesh with the young players we have.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
although I should say i think JVG is a great coach
and a lot better than some of the other big name coaches who still have jobs in the NBA. I think he got pretty unlucky between injuries and the team he worked for. I certainly think he’s at worst on par with guys like Rivers or Mike Brown and some others and we could certainly do worse. I just also think we could do better.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
JVG's...
…..offensive schemes suck, IMO. Watching his teams on offense is like watching paint dry.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on May 13, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but he might actually work with a center like Lopez
he kind of got unlucky because once Yao went down, which happened like every other month, his offensive scheme had no where to go. Which would be a problem in a play-off series if a team devised a defensive scheme that somehow took Lopez out of a game how would JVG counter it?
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
ohhhh snap!!!!
Kiki yes, but not LFrank. I was sad to see him go, he’s going to be in a good position. Kiki was a clown, but you can see the smear job that Frank went through when he basically was strangle held by management.
Frank was not a good coach
Despite what everyone has said. I wish him the best of luck, but he should be coaching high school teams.
Please not Avery Johnson. He proves he isn't worthy of the job every time he's on ESPN.
The real "Masters of Panic" are commenting on this blog.
by ben_gleicher on May 13, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously? Not worthy of the job?
He’s the fastest coach to 100 and to 150 victories in NBA history. He was coach of the year and took his team to the NBA finals. Wow.. Nets fans are amazing sometimes..lol
I'm with Ben on this one
Avery Johnson is one of the worst ESPN analysts. I’m continually amazed at the stupid things he says, and it has greatly lowered my opinion of him. As far as his coaching ability, to paraphrase “Prizzi’s Honor”, if he’s so frickin’ smart, how come he’s so frickin’ unemployed? He inherited a bomb squad in Dallas that he lead to a legendary playoff fail. I’d rather go with a top assistant like Thibodeau.
meh im not sure that's entirely him
a lot of analysts seem to dumb down when they switch from one place to ESPN. I’m not sure it actually means they’re dumb or if ESPN tells them it’s better to stay stupid things quickly and loudly than it is to actually give indepth analysis.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
It's called...
…“talking point memos”. None of those people that get on ESPN rarely spout off an honest to god opinion. These people are told what to say, what points to cover, and where not to tread.
If you want to understand how ESPN controls what comes out of the mouths of every analyst they hire, or anchor for that matter, watch some footage of the post game show directly following the Pistons vs. Pacers brawl a few years back. And then watch what the same group of men, including the outspoken stephen a smith, were saying the day after. It’s like their collective opinions magically changed from being shocked and appalled at the behavior of the animals that attend Pistons games to throwing the players under the bus and absolving the fans who were throwing things and fighting players from all blame.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on May 13, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Even Worserer, the Worserest
Thanks for bringing it up, DB—Stephen Smith is hands-down the worst analyst on ESPN. I’d much rather listen to even Charles than him or AJ, and that ‘s a pretty low bar. I agree with you all that AJ may not be entirely to blame for saying such consistently stupid things. But I wasn’t a big fan based on his Dallas tenure and hearing him on ESPN doesn’t help.
I sat in on a workshop last fall that had Karl Ravich from Baseball Tonight. He mentioned that when ESPN hires a former Player or coach as an analyst they know what they’re getting into. They know that player and coaches have their biases, allegiances, and opinions when they first start out and it makes for good TV. Especially with coaches, ESPN knows that what they say on air could effect future employment. He cited a case last where Bobby V made a comment last season about an play during the world series and after the cameras when off the air. He knew he he wouldn’t be managing this year.
There are pros and cons for all the candidates...
Other than the obvious choices (Sloan, Phil J, Coach K, Adelman), which are all unlikely, I will trust Rod T on this one.
Johnson is a safe choice
If you think about it. He has the exposure to make splash. He has a record to back it up. But he’s not too big like JVG to not be controlled by Thorn and the Front Office. He could certainly help attract some free agents. And if the Nets get Wall, johnson could certianly help in his development
It is apparent that other than possibly Coach K, it may not be possible to have more than 2/3 of fans being pro or just okay with ANY Caoching pick.
Avery is certainly near the top of that list among those names mentioned.
Tom T. also appears to be high, but he is a blank slate as a HEAD coach.
Best compromise is get both. is solved with Avery+Tom T.
Almost noone would object to TomT as the top assist. coach.
The NETS need a coach that is strong and tough!
Someone who is not afraid to bench a player who is not working hard enough at both ends of the floor even if he is the managers pet or owners pet.
AJ, JVG, and Thibs are all okay to me.
Too soon to put Mark Jackson in the head coach position, maybe assistant first.
Is this tough enough?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLV3a4CgYLE
And I bet no one complained in the locker room.
I would compare Avery Johnson in NBA to Joe Girardi in MLB.
Girardi clearly learned from his mistakes with management, with the Marlins. He was fired despite winning Manager of the Year Award.
He didn’t repeat those mistakes with the Yankees. He would always credit the Steinbrenners.
AJ should have mellowed after 2 years watching at a distance, but always thinking about his next coaching position.
Here is a chance to brush up on Avery:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avery_Johnson
Girardi didn't really make any mistakes with the Marlins
the GM was just a douche. And managing is really wildly different from coaching, managers don’t have near the impact on a game. They’re more just extensions of the gms and asked to just not get in the way most of the time. Baseball is a series of one on one match ups so there’s really not much a manager can do other than occasionally changing one side of the match up, with pinch hitters or relievers, and in the AL pinch hitters barely exist. AL managers are really almost like baby-sitters, which isn’t to insult what they do more to say, there’s really not much micromanaging to be done.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
ah...i never realized that about baseball managers....
….that explains why Jerry Manuel still has a job.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on May 13, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
no Jerry Manuel still has a job
because Jeff Wilpons is a moron, Fred Wilpon is apparently taking a decade long nap and Omar Minaya can’t get rid of the only person in between him and the unemployment line.
The mets are pretty much the perfect example of how not to run a franchise.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
I would compare
Thibadou to Steve Spagnola.
by nynjlawyer on May 13, 2010 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My first option is
Coach Thibodeau. Then the little general.
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
What about...
A coach who demands and commands the respect of everything and anything basketball and NBA. Someone who lacks the experience, but when teamed with someone like Thibs, could be an interesting Head Coach/Assistant Head Coach 1-2 punch.
Someone who has New York and New Jersey AND Nets pedigree and history.
And someone who has a PHD in hoops….
Should someone call the Doctor!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
Is Jay Wright really a candidate?
I sure hope not. What does he know about the NBA.? This guy definitely does not have the resume. He’s got no NBA playing or coaching experience, and its not like he’s a perenial Final 4 participant, he’s been there once. If we have to go with a college guy i’d much rather see it be Coach K, Izzo, Pitino, or Cal.
celebrating
I am still celebrating Proky.
I would like Byron scott back or Tom Thibeoudo. JVG yeah but No Avery Johnson
Proky Jay-Z and Lebron on Prokys boat
That is going to happen at some point, but I guess I’m starting to believe in the Wall hype we need to get the #1 pick. That scenario goes for any coach as well, but I like our situation even without Lebron, I think if we get Wall we trade Harris for possibly a top 10 pick if feasible.
it looks like mike browns going to be available soon
like in 2-3 hours. I know someone’s excited.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
lol Avery Johnsons's lobbying for Lebron to come here
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
lol
wifey and I almost fell outta our coach when finally, someone saw what we Nets fans see…this is the perfect spot for Lebron considering the options…good going Avery!! But heck…I think the dood should be loyal and stay in Cleveland.
by Versifiervt on May 13, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I just saw it.
He should have corrected Prokhorov’s money as being more like $18 billion, not 9. I believe the Russian numbers.
I loved his comment about Harris!!!
Andres should be keen on that one.
Keep Harris, hire Avery. Hope for Turner or Wall.
Cap Space – DLee should be available on July 1 now and his price should be more manageable with James going out looking.
If Nets clear some extra cap space via Yi, then it would be hard for LeBron to say no.
It will be important for Ratner to do his job and be sure that Brooklyn in on tract for 2012.
Just Blow up DG’s old condo and cut out some lost time!
Postgame
But he did say he hopes Lebron stays in cleveland
That is the politically correct thing to say.
If Proky hires Avery, he would be out recruiting LeBron.
And now Rod Thorn will know that too, which should make him happy.
Really...
His voice is so annoying to listen to. I can’t imagine how the players can keep on listening to that high pitch voice, it would drive me crazy if I was playing for him and have to constantly hear it.
Seriously we would be the best spot for him
When people say the bulls they say Noah and Rose, I like rose but Noah???
Now tuesday is big for us we neeed the #1 pick. Yes Avery just gave us a very big look, and I think he just lobbied had for the job on National TV.
Based on only 4 choices, with JVG not interested, Nets fans not liking Wright, Tom T. being tied up and Avery liking New Orleans,
Seems like Thorn is painting himself into a corner.
I see no reason why he can’t interview Avery NOW.
Avery WANTS it!!!!!
I think we can wait till after tuesday, no coach who wants the Nets job will commit anywhere the ball is still in our court
The Hornets job isn’t that appeasing
Plus, Thorn may not want to look too desperate
He’s in a strong bargaining position. Everyone knows the Nets will get a high pick and are flush with cash.
Theres still the whole Phil Jackson situation where if the Lakers don’t win the title, Buss doesn’t want to pay the 12 mil or whatever it is. I don’t know if we want to make a move until we have to because of this situation
I don't want Phil at his age and health. He could go to Clippers though. I don't think Thorn could have any control over Jackson
Last time, there was talk that he only wanted to coach home games.
If he came to the Nets
it would be a short term deal, IMO. 2-3 years maybe. This would be his last hurrah before hanging it up.
Why would he go to a team that wouldn't immediately be a contender?
There’s no point at his age. Furthermore, the triangle requires a fairly specific set of skill sets and long conditioning to it to work, so what happens after he leaves in three years? You can’t exactly throw another coach into the same situation, unless you’re hiring Kurt Rambis, Brian Shaw, Frank Hamblen, or another of Phil’s Lakers/Bulls assistants.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Because we Net fans think they will contend
They just need a scoring 2/3. PG and Center are already in place for the Triangle.
I don’t think it’ll will actually happen, but if it did then that’s how I think it would go down.
New Jersey isn't going to be contending
Considering that two or three of the starting positions will be filled by rookies or second year players, all of whom will have to adjust to arguably the most difficult to learn system in basketball. Phil will have to exert the energy to make the players buy into the system on top of his regular coaching duties, and again, I doubt that’s something he’s willing to do at his age. Not to mention that I doubt he wants to coach in Newark.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
yeah but dude
it’s the east. we could win 38 games and probably still be in the race for the last month.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Well, yeah, I didn't say the Nets couldn't make the playoffs
I’d expect that to happen between the new coach, infusion of free agents, and the draft. There’s a big gap between that and being good enough to seriously challenge Orlando, and I don’t think that’s a gap that will be crossed in two or three years, which is why there’s no real reason for Phil to consider going to New Jersey.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
Thorn must be laughing if he is watching the post game and saw Avery's comments
Avery just admitted he wants the Nets job, not Chicago or New Orleans. Thorn need not act desperate yet.
Avery also confirmed to Thorn that he still like Devin.
Johnson’s problem is that Thorn may not be sure he could control Avery as much as say a Tom T.
There was some feeling that Cuban had some problems with Avery.
Why the lmao?
Chad Ford said he just heard after the game from 4gms that they think Lebron will go to Chicago
Chicago would be a logical landing spot for LBJ. Big market, a rising star (Rose), nice young supporting cast (Noah, Deng, Gibson, Hinrich), Cal could land there too (he is good friends w/ Lebron), and the chance to win a ring where MJ became a legend
Nah... Gonna pay Deng to come off the bench?
He is making 11 mill, 12, 13, 14 in the next 4 years. That is not somebody that you put on the bench. However, they do have cap money. So. there line up is
Rose/?
Hinrich/?
LeBron/Deng/J.Johnson
Taj Gibson (Grew up with him in BK)/?
Noah/?
Not looking very good. They have question marks as well. They have to fill up that bench.
Don’t get me wrong… it look ok and can definitely get to the 2nd round but I still like our team.
Except for one massive problem
he’d never get out of Jordans shadow and he’d always be #2 there.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
Lebron...
….might as well stay with the Cavs if that’s the case. That Bulls team has no post presence.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on May 14, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Cal guaranteed he is staying at KY.
He issued a statement this afternoon.
You can't really trust
Cal’s word. If he’s given enough money and the chance to coach LeBron and Rose, he’ll accept the Bulls offer in a heartbeat. And all indications are LBJ wants him to coach him wherever he goes (Cleveland, Chicago).
I missed Mashburn's remark because I was on computer.
Previously he said LeBron should stay in Cleveland.
Maybe all the private talk about Avery interested in Nets, has influenced Mashburn.
Brossard said the other day that Knicks would be a BAD choice for LeBron
He said that Knicks fans would put way too much pressure on him, compared to Cleveland fans.
He also said that after LeBron and Bosh – then what??
mashburn basically said
nets have alot of young talent…more then cleve. He said lebron needs to think long term and nets might be best
Wall or Bust
…now rings more true than ever
Completely Agree
I really believe at this point if we get Wall we get LeBron. It makes TOO much sense.
someone put it up on youtube!
i missed avery’s and Mashburns’ comments!
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
Our players while young are more talented and athletic than the Cavs.
We have 3 picks were gonna be solid with or without LeBron but its obvious there is a movement going on and word of mouth is spreading, Proky and the Nets have got people foaming at the mouth, there is a freshness and newness about our situation even with last year. I think we should start with a new jersey as well.
We are HOT HOT HOT
NETS are doing the inverse Tiger. From zero to hero at warp speed. The “lifers” on this site have been talking about it for awhile now, but to see the potential unfold is positively breathtaking.
I almost want time to slow down so we can enjoy the ride – it may well be impossible to have a 2010/11 season as exciting as the 2010 off season.
On the Daily Dime Live
Nets being talked about as the hot destination. Andy Ayres says they are a serious possibility.
Avery is increasing the value of the Nets. He deserves his interview sooner, than later.
He may be advertising himself, but he is right.
The main issue that some ESPN analysts as well as both Mike AND Mike said this morning, is that the 2 year wait for Brooklyn would be a turnoff to LeBron. I think that is overrated.
My suggestion is for Proky to get their name change to the New Jersey-Brooklyn Nets, while they are still in Jersey. It might make LeBron feel better.
I agree it should not be a problem
If it was two years at the IZOD with Ratner it would be an issue. But two years in a nice Newark arena with Proky and a regularly reported on iconic arena emerging in Brooklyn read to create a second big move buzz (first to the NETS and then with the NETS to Brooklyn) this must be neutral at worst. And if you are thinking big picture long term it can even be a positive – leave the first year or two rebuilding in Newark and move to Brooklyn with a new new fresh championship level start. What other team offers anywhere near that quality of story line. Heck if Lebron passes, Melo will jumpat the chance.
don't listen...
…to anything that idiot Mike Greenberg has to say about the Nets. Or sports, in general.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
by MrDollarBills on May 14, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of the Knicks, does anyone understand how the Knicks were supposed to get Tony Parker, who is under contract for $13 million next year?
Why would San Antonio “give” him to the Knicks? What would the Knicks offer? More first round picks? Galinari?
Its like Knick fans wanted to believe they could afford LeBron, Bosh and Parker and not give up anything?
Meanwhile Parker denies Knicks report as totally false. He wants to remain in San Antonio.
It was all pretty much just speculation on DIME mag's part...
They seem to think if the Spurs were to throw in RJ’s contract along with Parker, the Knicks would trade them Wilson Chandler. Sorry I can’t post a proper link, I’m doing this from the phone…
http://mobile.netsdaily.com/2010/5/12/1468713/prokhorov-its-going-to-be-a-wild#comments
by JohnFromLongIsland on May 14, 2010 8:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It was all pretty much just speculation on DIME mag's part...
They seem to think if the Spurs were to throw in RJ’s contract along with Parker, the Knicks would trade them Wilson Chandler. Sorry I can’t post a proper link, I’m doing this from the phone…
http://dimemag.com/2010/05/nba-rumor-tony-parker-rudy-gay-plan-b-for-the-knicks/
by JohnFromLongIsland on May 14, 2010 8:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So Knicks use most of their cap space for Gay+Parker?
The way it was reported, they would still get LeBron + Bosh + Parker
Beyond sad
First we actually watch the nearly worst team in NBA history
Then we following them close enough to get on this site
Then we check the site all day long – and post all day long
Then we watch ESPN so we can post back on this site
We DESERVE Proky and a championship……or free meds.
dont jinx it
dont stoop to the level of knicks fans
by Wall or Bust on May 14, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree. It would be wiser to market Prokhorov riding Great Whites in the Madives
And to hear Proky talking about winning a Championship.
However, LeBron does look better in a Nets uniform that the Knicks picture we saw.
Hi LeBron - Care to come play for me and the Nets?
We could win a championship.
Doesn’t that make you want to smile?
It's funny
because before the idea of Lebron going to the Nets would get laughed at now everybody is saying NJ makes sense.
how great is it being a nets fan right now?
I am so happy to have been a fan of this franchise since I was a kid. I am so freaking excited its ridiculous! And we were 12-70 last year.
by BEB on May 14, 2010 12:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
One of the key remarks is Avery being proud of Harris.
If Nets keep Harris, but want to recruit LeBron, then Nets wouldn’t have enough for Bosh or Amare too.
However, Nets could immediately sign DLee, since Knicks will now know that LeBron will at least be available.
Nets may need a little more cap space. NI will have to recheck his numbers. Last we heard was about 27 million available (since bonuses could be delayed). It would be about 1 million higher if Nets had #4 pick.
It might be necessary to get some extra cap space for Yi, if Hump exercised his player option.
If Nets took Cousins however, it would be more unclear how to proceed, although Scola and LeBron could be signed with present cap space.
BLopez, Harris, DLee, (Wall or Turner), CLee and TWill. Then ask LeBron to sign up.
If he doesn’t, there would be plenty available for RGay, in a front loaded offer.
NBA TV is still showing approval of Proky as running caption.
That was great timing, just as NBA interest is highest.
Isn't this great?
Only a few months ago we were all in a deep depression and now I honestly can’t stop smiling. There are so many possibilities with this team and its only going to get better. I think LeBron to the Nets has more legs than most people think. This is THE franchise of the future.
I missed all this NEW JERSEY talk! I have espn on now and it is fast break. So far no talk about the Nets.
LETS GO NETS!
Avery Johnson will say something
They will soon enough talk about LeBron’s future and AJ will probably bring the Nets up again.
Avery
once again saying nice things about the Nets, then Broussard jokes to him saying, “You can have a coach like you”.
73% career winning percentage. 194 - 70.
That would be easy for Proky to sell. But still to make everyone feel better, pay Tom T. like $ 6 million per year to be Asst. Coach.
What does Tom T. earn now? $1 million max?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avery_Johnson
I doubt if Avery would have any objection to Tom T. after watching him with Doc Rivers.
It would also be another plus in recruiting LeBron.
And then that 67-15 Dallas team was eliminated in the first round by a #8 seed
Legendary fail. No thanks.
Yeah but he's also a young coach still learning
and was facing pretty much the perfect team to upset them because Nelson knew their offense so well and because of the roster constructions. That’s really pretty much a perfect storm example.
I wonder if Carl Everett believes Jamie Moyer exists.
With either Jamison not choking or LeBron not missing so many shots or turnovers, then Cleveland wins.
Celts D. though at a lot to do with it.
I will rooting for Vince and Magic now. Its their turn this year.
Even though Boston is really old, they still have so much talent. They all came together and played with a bounce in their step like they are capable of doing.
LETS GO NETS!
Yup.
And this is what makes them so dangerous. Keep in mind they haven’t been healthy until now. Imagine a healthy KG against the Laker front line in the Finals. It won’t be as easy for LA this time around.
No! No! No!
Avery’s own words: No as coach. Maybe he should go to Cleveland. THey need a coach. Boy, he was undone by Doc. Brown is clueless offensively. I personally don’t want Lebron here b/c he is not a champ and he is too selfish. Who has he made better? Mo W was the best player on the Cavs last night and the 4th quarter was about Lebron. Brown don’t get it. Mo kept them in it. Lebron is missing something and I prefer to see his failures from a distance, like Chicago or Cleveland. What kind of a teammate lets all these rumors swirl? Boozer was right about him.
What do you think of the possibility of Carmelo Anthony?
I’m pushing him as my dark horse acquisition.
thanks jumpman!
" I'm really excited to take the worst team in the league and turn it to be the best in the league." --Mikhail Prokhorov.
@ JustinNJ – Donnie Walsh would NEVER do that unless he ALSO wants to start looking for a new coach.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on May 15, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions
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