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Nets to Offer Mike Krzyzewski $12 to $15 Million a Year, Says Iannazzone

If Mikhail Prokhorov has his way, Mike Krzyzewski will be coaching his last collegiate game Monday night against Butler.  Al Iannazzone reports that Prokhorov will waste no time once approved later this month and offer the Duke coach a contract worth between $12 and $15 million a year.  Under one scenario, Krzyzewski would serve as both head coach and general manager.  A contract on that scale would make Krzyzewski the highest paid coach in any sport.  Phil Jackson currently makes $10.3 million.

Iannazzone quoted an NBA executive as saying, "You got a high profile owner who is going to want a high-profile coach."  Krzyzewski has resisted previous NBA offers, including one for five years and $40 million from the Lakers.  What's Plan B, if the 63-year-old coach says no... as he says he will? The usual candidates, reports Iannazzone: Jeff Van Gundy, Avery Johnson and Villanova's coach, Jay Wright.

In fact, ESPN's Marc Stein reports that Devin Harris is "making a hard internal push for his former coach with the Mavericks."  As for Van Gundy, Stein quotes a source that "the Nets know they'll have 'to blow him away' to convince Van Gundy to leave a TV job he loves". In any event, the May 18 Draft Lottery is likely to be a key determinant for any coaching candidates. Getting the overall #1, or even the #2, will help the Nets, he writes.

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I'm still rooting for Butler.

I like underdogs.

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by barrypopik on Apr 4, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

That's pretty freakin risky

I mean, he has the name and reputation and all to attract free agents, but to entrust the entire construction and management of your team to a guy who has not been on the NBA level is risky. You can claim the olympics and all that, but let’s be honest that’s a cakewalk. It’s easy to get along and work together when you’ve got that much talent. No so much when you’re fighting for contracts and your own NBA life.

by muwu on Apr 4, 2010 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

its all risky

you think giving a team to a guy like JVG who hasn’t coached in three years and who once quit on his owner in mid season isn’t risky?

by Net Income on Apr 4, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah because you only hear about

The henry fords and thomas edisons, not the guys who went broke and died penniless on the street

by muwu on Apr 4, 2010 10:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

miracle happens

a big part of business is taking on risk. coach k is a very calculated risk. he has managed large egos before. he has managed nba players before. his program has produced a good crop of nba level players. you would think he knows what to look for come draft day.

in the end there’s still a chance he says no.

by head_hunter on Apr 5, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

NI, you can’t believe how happy I am to even see reported RUMORS that confirm what us Nets fans have dreamed for all season. In a way, this is also consistent with the earlier story on Vatutin that hinted at him joining the Nets FO, but couldn’t specifically state what his precise role would be with the team (assistant to Thorn, GM himself, etc).

Go figure that the best time to be a Nets fans is right after its worst!

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 ("The guy's Russian, right?" Krzyzewski said. "You think he'd hire a Polish guy?")

I agree with GMJigga. Paying top dollar for a top coach is a good start.
  
FYI, from an article in February:
    
Krzyzewski said New Jersey had not contacted him, then cracked a couple of one-liners at the expense of Mikhail Prokhorov, the Russian billionaire and the Nets’ prospective buyer.
  
“The guy’s Russian, right?” Krzyzewski said. “You think he’d hire a Polish guy?”
  
After chuckling, Krzyzewski said: “No one’s contacted me, and if they do, I think ‘nyet’ would be easy for me to say.”
  
The Nets are 4-48 at the All-Star break.

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by barrypopik on Apr 4, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

If there's one thing to like about Prokhorov

it’s that we’ll never have to worry about money again. Mavs have won 50 games or more for 10 consecutive years under Mark Cuban, hope we can do the same

by muwu on Apr 4, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

Just unreal the level of excitement that The Russian creates. Money means nothing, he just wants to win. As a Yankees fan, it is a pretty incredible thing to be a part of that mentality.

by eLonepb on Apr 4, 2010 10:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

27 World Championships.

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

I don’t want JVG either but I really don’t think Coach K would translate to the NBA. I also don’t think there’s any way he leaves Duke.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Why NOT?

Who would you choose instead?

by eLonepb on Apr 4, 2010 10:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why NOT?

Who would you choose instead?

by eLonepb on Apr 4, 2010 10:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Coach K

Is currently the head coach of Team USA. The BEST talent of our entire nation trusts him as our head coach. When we finally won the gold medal, all of our players placed their gold medal around HIS neck.

Before:
http://z.about.com/d/collegebasketball/1/0/K/1/-/-/krzyzreski-medals-harry-how.jpg

After:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080824/oly-bko-spain-us/images/c12b2881-007a-4330-ae43-b09f178ab4de.jpg

That’s the likes of Chris Paul, Kobe, Lebron, Dwight…the list goes on and on… Heck, he had current NBA head coaches playing assistant to him!

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but I don't think coaching team USA is the same thing as an NBA team

with team USA players have to stay in line or it would be major blows to their image, plus they’re playing for pride, not for paychecks. I imagine it’s a lot easier to handle the egos there because 1. most of them are top tier players and their playing time or lack there of isn’t going to affect their paycheck back home and 2. they know that anything they do out of line is going to immediately be spun negatively by the media because they’re supposed to be putting their country first. On an NBA team it’s not always the same thing.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only on an 11 win team

…would a Nets fan say that coaching the best of the country is a less daunting task than coaching just another 15.

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t taking this summer off “out of line?” They’re putting their careers ahead of their country right there (they being wade and lebron). I really doubt they’ll risk getting injured by participating in the worlds. It’s also a heavy toll on the body going 82 games + playoffs and then taking on the worlds.

by head_hunter on Apr 5, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Naw I don't think most of the media/country cares about the worlds

plus Wade apparently is doing it in order to get custody of his kids, it’s hard for the media to spin that kind of thing.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 5, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s still part of the USA Team setup. They made commitments.

by head_hunter on Apr 5, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but has MSM ever let facts get in their way

the world games aren’t a ratings booster because most of American barely knows they exist.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 5, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

We’re talking about how guys on Team USA supposedly can’t get out of line. “Yeah but I don’t think coaching team USA is the same thing as an NBA team
with team USA players have to stay in line or it would be major blows to their image, plus they’re playing for pride, not for paychecks.”
Failing to meet your obligations for Team USA is getting out of line.

by head_hunter on Apr 5, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

My point was they couldn't get out of line under the olympics spotlight

because of the media frenzy and the endorsement money. In this case it’s highly unlikely even MSM would spin Wade skipping the World games for his kids in a negative light, and if anything it would help endorsers paint him as even more of a positive family man light.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 5, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha didnt see any mention of “commitments for team usa only apply during the olympics” in the first post.

and this wasn’t about just wade, it’s lebron, bosh and any 2010 FA on team usa.

bottom line they can do what they want.

by head_hunter on Apr 5, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you not read "blows to their image"

part in the very first line. it’s kind of common sense that if the media doesn’t cover something negatively it’s not going to be a blow to their image.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 5, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

right...

and lebron won’t dance anymore

by head_hunter on Apr 6, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow nice pics Jigga

I am convinced Coack K is the guy we need.

When the big fella was whistled for his fourth personal foul midway through the third quarter, Stan Van Gundy left Clark Kent alone. And in a phone booth measuring 94 feet across, Dwight Howard used that vote of confidence to transform into his alter ego. - Chris Sheridan

by thermodynamic on Apr 5, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

I don’t know why people just assume Coach K is so great. Coach Cal was a stud in college, Pete Carrol. I perfer someone with more NBA experience.

by seeker2 on Apr 4, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coach K

Has experience in coaching the ALL-USA TEAM!

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah he has experience coaching veterans who

are probably the best best players in the world at their positions, that’s not the same as coaching a regular NBA team, especially one that’s going to be as young as ours. Not to mention the international game is incredibly different from the NBA game.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only in an 11 win sesason

…does coaching college kids means you can’t handle the youth of 25 year olds

…does coaching the best players in the world mean you can’t handle one of 30 NBA teams

The New Jersey Nets, ladies and gents!

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No it means you can't handle the youth of

21-24 year old millionaires. Do you really not see the difference between a 20 year old college kid, and a 20 year old who just was given a guaranteed contract for millions of dollars?

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not in the JVG camp

I’m more in the European coach, or an NBA assistant camp.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

because they turn into sub-human forms like Voltron. Coach K, who has reached the zenith of his profession while turning down previous NBA offers, cannot match the creatures of the rookie pay scale

LOL, only in an 11 win season…

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

because most of the rookies just get their money and waste away. Sensationalism, courtesy of an 11 win season.

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

what does wasting money have to do with anything?

although it is a fact that 75% of players go broke 2 years after their careers end. But that has nothing to do with what I’m saying. I’m saying it’s a lot harder to get millionaires to listen than it is broke college kids. Just look at all the things about CDR, and T-Will earlier in the season, did you ever hear anything about them having attitude problems in college?

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 5, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope!

Thank God we’re talking about the best college coach there is!

by GMJigga on Apr 5, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well played good sir.

When the big fella was whistled for his fourth personal foul midway through the third quarter, Stan Van Gundy left Clark Kent alone. And in a phone booth measuring 94 feet across, Dwight Howard used that vote of confidence to transform into his alter ego. - Chris Sheridan

by thermodynamic on Apr 5, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

What you guys fail to understand is...

How important Coach K will be in this upcoming summer with free agency. He has great relationships with all of those guys on the national team. He would be instrumental in us acquiring a big name. W/o Coach K there is no chance of LeBron, DWade, Bosh and a very low chance at A’mare. With Coach K everything changes.

Lets just say we get A’mare. Along with him were guaranteed at least a top 4 pick, and a 25% chance at the top pick. The top pick will be John Wall. With Coach K, quite possibly John Wall, our current roster and A’mare plus another mid to possible high level free agent we go from the bottom to contenders in our division.

Once the wins start coming these 21-25 millionaires become a lot more coachable than they do on a losing team. And this doesn’t even include the fact that LeBron and/or DWade would now be a possibility. Proky is a smart man. Now is the time. Bring on Coach K…

by JerzeyFresh on Apr 5, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I knew Proky was too good to be true.

But what the heck, yeah, step on the gas pedal harder.

by M I K E on Apr 4, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

woohooo

Proky is the man, no matter Coach K would accept or not, at least … Proky is showing he is strongly willing to PAY!

by Jarkid Shen on Apr 4, 2010 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

he's showing something else

he wants people to know he is on the scene.

by Net Income on Apr 4, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I watch 60 minutes... I read page 6 in the NY post.

All that money for a guy who looks like he is happy being a school teacher?

Well , it’s not my money…

by M I K E on Apr 4, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this is real

And we actually offer in $15 mil per season..can he really say no to that????

by NetsKiNG on Apr 4, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he can

he’s kind of old, he’s already made millions and truthfully he’s probably near retirement age, there’s really no reason he’d want to leave a gimme like duke for the head ache of turning around the leagues worst team.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not the one turning it around

See also: the reason this story is even being printed.

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't see how he could possibly turn that kind of money down.

Especially if Duke wins tonight. Being a Duke and a Nets fan this is an extremely tough call. But Coach K won’t be at Duke forever and I’d love to see Nets land him. I guess the Nets it is!

by JerzeyFresh on Apr 5, 2010 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not just turning money down.

But turning down the once in a lifetime opportunity to turn the worst NBA team into the best. And apparently getting full control of doing so.

When the big fella was whistled for his fourth personal foul midway through the third quarter, Stan Van Gundy left Clark Kent alone. And in a phone booth measuring 94 feet across, Dwight Howard used that vote of confidence to transform into his alter ego. - Chris Sheridan

by thermodynamic on Apr 5, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has demonstrated that he can be one of the wealthiest in the world through unconventional methods. Now, the owner of a current media company is making a play through US media and 60 minutes. In Prokhorov I trust.

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is leaving Yormark gasping for breath.

it is WAY beyond him. This is not about “Sensible Portions” or “Doublemint” gum.

by Net Income on Apr 4, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I honestly

LOL’d reading your reply!

by NetsKiNG on Apr 4, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a bunch of B.S.

Proky doesn’t even own the Nets…

Not yet, anyway.

by M I K E on Apr 4, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Can your picture coach "K"...

Coaching 82 games a year. At his age… He looks like he’s ready to keel over.

by M I K E on Apr 4, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah exactly

that’s why I don’t think there’s any chance, maybe if he was much younger, but I don’t see why a guy at his age would want to walk away from such a cushy job for a high risk one.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Elite college coaches are big time competitors

You don’t think there isn’t some part of him that wants to test his abilities at the next level?

by GeoffreySchmits on Apr 4, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coach K no

I don’t think being a big time competitor means they give a damn one way or another about the NBA. I really think there are certain college coaches who have absolutely no interest in coaching at the next level because they love the college game and structure, and I think Coach K is one of those coaches.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...

and then there is $12 to $15 million a year.

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

An offer of $12-$15 million per year will certainly test that theory….

by GeoffreySchmits on Apr 4, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course

this will be HUGE news tomorrow…and if I was Coach K, I would be pissed that this threatens to overwhelm the Final Four.

So maybe this IS just a way to get publicity, but if that was its purpose, it’s working.

by Net Income on Apr 4, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn't even think of that

Here’s hoping it’s a major distraction and causes duke to fail. Boy that would make my week. Bring on the media frenzy, long live Prokhy.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO!

Root for Duke to WIN! Coach K would want to leave on a high note, what is higher than winning another title?

by NetsKiNG on Apr 4, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'm a UNC student

so no. And I don’t want Coach K regardless.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Understandable

But, what if coach K lead to LeBron? Which speculation has pointed in that direction..

by NetsKiNG on Apr 4, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't think Lebrons going to leave the Cavs regardless

and if he did I’d have a hard time believing coach K had anything to do with it. And Lebrons obviously an otherwordly player but I don’t think this whole chasing Lebron thing is completely out of hand, it’s not like he’s the only way a teams going to be competitive, we could build a championship quality team without him, especially with Prokhy’s resources, so while I getting him would obviously be awesome I don’t think it’s really something we need to be chasing or relying on.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The truth comes out...

You’re a UNC student and that’s why you dont want Coach K!

by JerzeyFresh on Apr 5, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

well I don't want any college coach

how many times has a college coach successfully transitioned to the NBA?

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 5, 2010 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coach K

Is not just a college coach! He already coaches the best talent in the entire nation, please just stop with the generalizations. It makes for a weak argument, sheesh.

by GMJigga on Apr 5, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

We all should be Duke fans tomorrow

Because if you think about it, for Coach K to leave Duke it would have to be a perfect scenario. Well, how does $15mill per season to Coach a team with an insanely bright future+Winning your 4th national title at Duke+ LeBron?+Wall?…it could happen.

by NetsKiNG on Apr 4, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry... I couldn't fall asleep;

Peter Vescey once said…

I don’t follow college basketball… I follow the big show…

Who care about the minor leagues… anyway.

by M I K E on Apr 4, 2010 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

remember, coach K has been the Team USA coach since 2005, so he understands the pro game and has coached all the superstars in the NBA

by rockybrown on Apr 4, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

he's coached the superstars

has he coached the young kids making millions for the first times in their lives dealing with agents, their first tastes of fast lifestyles and bad influences back home with attitude problems?

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Newsflash:

Duke is, and has been, an NBA pipeline. Also, he’s in charge of coaching our biggest superstars.

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

um, what great NBA players has duke produced? Elton Brand, Shane Battier, Grant Hill and ???. Are you sure you know who duke is? The few players he’s had that have gone from the NBA almost all came from upper upper middle class backgrounds, and were used to having money.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

keep going

You were on such a roll!

by GMJigga on Apr 4, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

She's a Tar Heel

I would probably hate all things Duke too if I were her

by JerzeyFresh on Apr 5, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

but lets be honest though

would you consider Duke an NBA factory? or even close?

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 5, 2010 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

13 players in the league right now.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/alumni-tracker/school/5156?tag=pageRow;pageContainer

Only UCLA has more, I believe. And UCLA hasn’t had a single coach in place that whole time.

From my count, seven of the 13 have played prominent roles on playoff teams.

NetsDaily.com

by NetsDaily on Apr 5, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

your forgeting carlos boozer, one of the best power forwards in the game today

by Jay2fly on Apr 5, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention even if Duke was an NBA pipeline

which is hilarious to suggest, but I’ll go with it. You’re still talking about a situation where you’re controlling a kids scholarships. And our biggest stars aren’t going to act out on the worlds biggest stage, they’re not stupid they know the endorsements at stake and the huge media backlash that would come from causing problems on the US team.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's basically coached

young kids who’s scholarships he controls, and lets be for real most of dukes players come from upper middle class backgrounds, and he’s coached established NBA players, most of whom were relative veterans who have already gone through the beginning of career bumps. What he hasn’t coached is probably the hardest to coach, the in between stages.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yormark B.S.

Baby, Baby you know it’s true
I’m a puppet just for you
I’ll do any little thing you say
I wouldn’t have it any other way
Take my heart and take my soul
I’m givin’ you complete control
If you wanna see me do my thing, Baby pull my string Huh, yea

by M I K E on Apr 4, 2010 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

They are

he no longer owns any part of them, but Vatutin, the guy he hired, is their president…for now.

by Net Income on Apr 4, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

and in case you missed it

the Bloomberg magazine piece, with illustrations.

http://johnhelmer.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Mikhail-Prokhorov-May-2010.pdf

60 Minutes, Bloomberg, Business Week, Paris Match…all within a week. Now this…

by Net Income on Apr 4, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice form by Proky with the J

Needs to follow through a bit more. Its like your dipping your hand in the cookie jar Proky.

by mikeslovak on Apr 4, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont know that

but I do know that in January, Pippen traveled to Krasnoyarsk in deepest Siberia, to open Prokhorov’s youth basketball initiative in that city. That’s him on the far left.

http://pics.livejournal.com/onexim_group/pic/000t1y8a

by Net Income on Apr 4, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Prokhorov know about Tom Thibodeau?

We have to get him. Shower him with money, do whatever, just get him with us next season

by muwu on Apr 4, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I would rather have Pitino... real NYC...

We are going to be in NYC not Mayberry RFD.

Walk the walk .

by M I K E on Apr 4, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Pitino

Has failed miserably in the NBA. No thanks.

by NetsKiNG on Apr 4, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not because of what he did in the NBA

college is not the same as the NBA. Who cares about a minor league anyway right?

by muwu on Apr 4, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many games coach "K" have in the NBA?

NCAA is the minors leagues for the NBA…Period… end of discussion…

by M I K E on Apr 4, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fine

Then what is Team USA to the NBA, guy?

by GMJigga on Apr 5, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats not really

a good argument on your part.

by NetsKiNG on Apr 5, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

team USA is mostly veterans

who are already established top tiers players and who know major endorsement money is at stake. Any dissension, or even rumors of it, would be pretty quickly be spun negatively about the player by the media, since they’re supposed to be putting their individual egos on the back burner in order to represent their country. It’s a very different type of situation.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 5, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed but..

The point is that if we want a coach that has NBA experience, Coach K has at least COACHED the best players in the league. They all think very highly of him. Honestly this move would be more geared towards RECRUITING than it would be coaching.

by NetsKiNG on Apr 5, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh sure

So the increased talent of the best of America, doesn’t compare to the jump from college to the pro’s. Great job, Mike!

by GMJigga on Apr 5, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nevermind

I just saw that Mike wants to keep Kiki on in the FO. I shouldn’t have dignified this with a response, LOL!

by GMJigga on Apr 5, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know why

you even try to argue with him. He never backs up his arguments with facts just his own opinions.

by NetsKiNG on Apr 5, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

What are the facts?

Just your opinions or someone else’s?

Think for yourself, that’s key of life…

by M I K E on Apr 5, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't get personal.

Everyone please stick to talking basketball and quit with the attempts to knock your fellow commenters.

NetsDaily.com

by NetsDaily on Apr 5, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not the point.

The discussion goes completely downhill once it gets personal.

NetsDaily.com

by NetsDaily on Apr 5, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too true

I meant nothing personal on his character. I just wonder what idea one could have as coach if they also think Kiki is best fit to stay on as running this team. This connection between the ideology of coaching and GM’ing can apply to anyone. I apologize if Mike thought I meant anything personal.

by GMJigga on Apr 5, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kiki is the best thing that happened for the Nets.

In a couple of years you will find out why.

I will go down with Kiki, and you can keep the rest…

But remember, I’ve been a Nets fan for over forty years.

And I’m still younger then most of you newbies…

And if you want me to prove it, I will prove it all night…

by M I K E on Apr 5, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Most of the Nets’ history is marred with failure except for those two years where we went to the finals two years in a row. I’m not sure I would be bragging about that if I were you, fellow Nets brother.

(I can’t wait until we get to fight over whom supported Prokhorov first once we crack 50 wins)

by GMJigga on Apr 5, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not a competition.

It’s a discussion.

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by NetsDaily on Apr 5, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait

So you say that Pitino is a great coach when he’s failed on the NBA level and only been successful on the college level, but discredit coach K for not having NBA experience?

let’s see, both good college coaches. One has been a proven failure in the NBA and one has no NBA experience. But one is one of the best ever and one sucks?

by muwu on Apr 5, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

the only thing worse than a college coach, would be a college coach who’s already failed at the NBA level.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't disgree he's one of the greatest college coaches ever

But his NBA record is a little mixed. He did a good job turning the Knicks around when they started to put together some real talent, but he wilted under the pressure of Celtics job- that’s the part of his resume that concerns me. O’Brien took over and immediately turned essentially the same squad into one of the top teams in the East. I’ll pass on Pitino, but I’ll still cheer Louisville on b/c I’m loyal to the Big East.

by GeoffreySchmits on Apr 5, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coach "K" is a myth, Yormarks P.R. stunt.

Lets talk tomorrow, when your heads are clear, of visions of paradise…

by M I K E on Apr 5, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ink is still wet on extension contract.

Pitino just signed a four year extension contract at Louisville. They have a top recruiting class for 2011. They also will be moving into a fabulous new arena this coming season. Aside from the "personal legal problems ’ he’s going thru (Karen Sypher) everything looks great for him.

by aunt-B on Apr 5, 2010 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

the best scenario

John Wall
Coach K
Brooklyn
Jay-Z
Amare Stoudemire
and good young core

will attract LeBron.

by Jarkid Shen on Apr 4, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

wait what

Kiki is in no way a coach. Retaining him as gm or an assistant in the front office makes sense, retaining him as coach makes negative sense.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 4, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

How come the Nets are afraid to mix it up?

Brooklyn is not the suburbs. Let’s get mean, nasty and low down.

Coach “k”, John Wall, Evan Turner, LeBron “the geek” James.

Lets do it different. Lets do it our way.

Might as well move the Nets to Family oriented Las Vegas or Disney World…

I’m from NYC, and I’m proud of it…

by M I K E on Apr 4, 2010 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

The story certainly hammers home one of the team's new mantras

Proky is ready to spend and spend big. Even if the Coach K thing turns out to be a red herring, it’s reinforcing a message that might affect some free agent’s thinking.

by GeoffreySchmits on Apr 5, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey Jeff; Tell me more about Arron Harrang....

I can win or lose money on that crazy selection.

by M I K E on Apr 5, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay - I'll take a pause on this thread for a minute

His opening day history doesn’t bode well for you. He’s started the last four opening days for the REDS. He’s 1-3, but has actually pitched fairly well. But he’s had to go up against some real #1 pitchers – he’s lost to Webb, Santana the last two opening days. And he’s pitching against Carpenter tomorrow…..

Time for bed – my wife may very well be having our baby tomorrow – fingers crossed

by GeoffreySchmits on Apr 5, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly thats the whole point of this, to basically say we are ready o play with the big boys.

Our organization will take upon the personality of our owner, we want to have the best, will shoot for the best, where not afraid to let you know that. It’s a personality and culture change, what it really is.

by Atronic on Apr 5, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Im excited

Coach K would be crazy to walk away from 15 mil a year. thats outraegous…the only thing he’s missing on his resume is NBA success. I think this is perfect and i hope we can get him. Coach K will attract free agents galore, i’m tlkn amar’e and lebron lol

by Jay2fly on Apr 5, 2010 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

YES

But trust me, root for Duke tomorrow. It makes his decision alot easier if he can walk away after bringing Duke another title.

by NetsKiNG on Apr 5, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure...

but thats hard 2 walk away from even if you dont have a title 2 win

by Jay2fly on Apr 5, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's hard to walk away from for us

but if you’ve already made millions upon millions and you’re near retirement age is it really that hard to walk away from?

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 5, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

No gina

but you have to understand legacy. Success in the NBA puts coach K in “greatest coach of all time” talks and he’ll be making a fortune while doing it.

by Jay2fly on Apr 5, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

The last temptation of coach "K",...

Leave the old guy alone…Satan, get behind me…

by M I K E on Apr 5, 2010 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

ignorant 2 say

he is exactly the kind of coach we need. he brings prestiege and elegance, also he is a commanding presence for 2 guide this young team. he was able 2 coach a team full of future hall of hamers with ease, i think a rag tag bunch of youngsters will be more then enough 4 him to handle

by Jay2fly on Apr 5, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

funny

I honestly dont see whats wrong with making an offer like this one. All these money hungry free agents are going to look at what the coach makes and say ‘why wouldn’t i want to play here? it’s pay day’

by Jay2fly on Apr 5, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

damn thats alot of money…how could coach k resist an offer like that? he would be plain crazy.

i think proky mostly would want him to recruit big names.

by Andy. on Apr 5, 2010 12:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Thank you

thats a crazy number to walk away from. think of all the oppurtunity he’ll have on the nets. he could take his legacy to the next level, and make a fortune doing it

by Jay2fly on Apr 5, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even though I'm rich and bored...

I like the rough and tumble. Keep it coming. There is no subsitute for being young, wild and carefree. Hey we ain’t paying the bill.

by M I K E on Apr 5, 2010 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Worst case this is good news.

Even if this is just our new gazillionaire owner showing he can spin the press and keep the NETS (and hiimself) on the front page – then it is good news indeed. It is this type of attention that will eventually convince the best to join the NETS. We have the resources and we are for real.

Best case this is great news. Coach K has all the skills, experience and CREDIBILITY with NBA players (young, old, stars, bench players) to deliver. He is the only college coach I put in this category and it is because of his overwhelming success (what he did and how he did it) with team USA.

I could live with Messina (new blood as with coach K) and Avery Johnson. Avery is a winner who suffered a harsh learning experience at the hands of a couple of masters (Riley and Nelson). He will be a very good coach in the NBA again and might fit well at least for a few years with the young NETS. I do worry that he might not appeal to a strong minded super star free agent.

In the end this is good news or great news. Further affirmation that we are headed from the outhouse to the penthouse in a hurry.

by Jay-dub on Apr 5, 2010 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

question

how many “strong minded superstars” did coach k coach in the olympics?? AN ENTIRE ROSTER

by Jay2fly on Apr 5, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

The guy is old and worn out...

Like your grandfather… Love and respect him, but don’t ever let him lead the charge…

Thankfully, coach “K” will never take the easy money. Never did and never will.

He is a man of high principals.

Money don’t rule his world and it should not rule yours.

Bought and sold like, like a can of tomatoes…

Proky, you can’t buy the real U.S.A….

by M I K E on Apr 5, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Netsdaily

How big of a story do you think this will be tomorrow?

by NetsKiNG on Apr 5, 2010 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't really understand how it's shocking to think someone who's already

a multimillionaire would walk away from the offer. Obviously me or any other average poster couldn’t even fathom 15 million. But we’re not talking about an average guy we’re talking about a guy who’s been making millions yearly for 20 some years.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 5, 2010 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

We realize

that he could easily say no, but when you’re offered the highest coaching contract BY FAR in the history of the league..you have to seriously consider it. Also, lets say we offer him a 5-year deal which would equate to about $75million, he could take care of 5 generations of his family by signing a contract.

by NetsKiNG on Apr 5, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Money is an illusion...

The devils way of keeping you coming back..

And the devil is a nice guy… Personally speaking…

by M I K E on Apr 5, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

You don’t understand the difference between 15 and 3 million? I think you do, which makes me wonder why you posted that :-/

by GMJigga on Apr 5, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do

my point is more if you’ve already made millions and you’re in your 60s I don’t really think 15 million impossible to turn down, especially when you’re talking about making a major high risk career transition.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 5, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's risky

about a guaranteed salary of $15 million? LOL

by GMJigga on Apr 5, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

????

what’s so high risk about it?? i think that sounds silly to say. He’ll be making the next step.

by Jay2fly on Apr 5, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

In terms of legacy

He could go from “one of the greatest college coaches of all time” to “another college coach who failed in the NBA”

by ddyyzz on Apr 5, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because he'll be making the step

attempting to turn an incredibly young team that was on pace to be the worst team in NBA history around, how leaving a perennial contender like Duke for that not high risk?

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 5, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's why we should draft Cousins.

He would tell coach “k” and Proky… Go shove it… In a perfect world…

We got a billionaire owner, a muti-millionaire coach. Who is actually playing? Or does it not matter. The Nets wanna be the Knicks… Bad choice of role model.

by M I K E on Apr 5, 2010 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Seriously

What are you talking about?

by NetsKiNG on Apr 5, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

That’s what I was thinking.

M I K E, you want to draft a player who’s gonna tell Proky to “Go shove it”?!

Your… “logic” defies me.

When the big fella was whistled for his fourth personal foul midway through the third quarter, Stan Van Gundy left Clark Kent alone. And in a phone booth measuring 94 feet across, Dwight Howard used that vote of confidence to transform into his alter ego. - Chris Sheridan

by thermodynamic on Apr 5, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cap for coaches

How much do you want to bet that the NBA puts in a slary cap for coaches and other team personnel after this??? It would prevent Prokhy or any other billionaire buying everybody’s assets. i.e. He can go after the best trainer, nutritionist, GM, assistant coaches, etc. Other teams will start complaining when they get raided!

by supernetsfan on Apr 5, 2010 1:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Thats like...

Hospitals being worried about sports teams taking all the best doctors for team physicians.

by JerzeyFresh on Apr 5, 2010 2:12 AM EDT reply actions  

he wont...

take it because he will feel like a sell out

by SPiDER MAN on Apr 5, 2010 3:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Who is this NBA source tha Al keeps going back to? This is same old story that was denied earlier.

However, Al has the same sense of drama that I would too. With Duke about to win the National Title, I was expecting this story to resurface.

The fallacy is that Coach K won’t be needed to attract DLee and RGay to come to Nets (and no other FAs are coming anyway).

Coach K would only be good for ESPN and TNT. Nets would have more games on TV if that is important. That’s a lot of money for the extra publicity.

The most important News from Al’s article is that the Board should approve Proky on April 16. We no longer hear about the need to vacate Ground Zero of Barclays. That is very significant and means that Proky will be around to interview Coaches and discuss strategy with Thorn.

by jerry25 on Apr 5, 2010 7:36 AM EDT reply actions  

The Stein article is more telling and points to Avery Johnson

First of all JVG would be another Lawrence Frank. Thorn and the Nets need to try something else. Besides he’d be too demanding.

The Avery Johnson news is very significant. Now we learn that Harris is actually pushing for AJ, as he seems to feel it would give him more job security. AJ was previously removed from consideration because of Harris. Probably some of the reporters had not considered AJ previously, for this reason. AJ would be the perfect direction to go in

AJ could be offered much less than say JVG, not to mention Coach K. The Stein article also says that New Orleans might not be able to afford AJ, which is wonderful news.

Proky should prefer AJ, because he could always be fired, which isn’t true of Coach K.

In other sources, it was said that Thorn DOESN’t wand a College Coach without NBA experience.
I would have to say then that AJ will be the Nets coach, which means that Thorn will do what he can to quell any talk about AJ.
Thorn is a good poker player, so he won’t give away his actual thoughts. Thorn has no list, so any names that come out aren’t likely from him.

by jerry25 on Apr 5, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's quite obvious

is that this is about Prokhorov, not Thorn. Ratner deferred basketball decisions to Thorn and VInny Viola, the second biggest owner. Not happening with Prokhorov. He is calling the shots. That’s a new reality for Thorn and the Nets.

by Net Income on Apr 5, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Coach K

much better than JVG, AJ or Wright. I still doubt he leaves Duke tho. I’d like us to try to hire The Czar, Izzo, and Cal. Since they are my 3 favorites options, I voted for “other” on ND’s poll.

by Andres B on Apr 5, 2010 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Goldfinger reaches out to Coach K

Goldfinger
He’s the man, the man with the Midas touch
A spider’s touch
Such a cold finger
Beckons you to enter his web of sin
But don’t go in

Golden words he will pour in your ear
But his lies can’t disguise what you fear
For a golden girl knows when he’s kissed her
It’s the kiss of death …

From Mister Goldfinger
Pretty girl, beware of his heart of gold
This heart is cold

Golden words he will pour in your ear
But his lies can’t disguise what you fear
For a golden girl knows when he’s kissed her
It’s the kiss of death …

From Mister Goldfinger
Pretty girl, beware of his heart of gold
This heart is cold
He loves only gold
Only gold
He loves gold
He loves only gold
Only gold
He loves gold

by Net Income on Apr 5, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I am sure Coach K will be asked about this at some point tonight

What should we be looking for in his response? Does he change his tune and say he will listen to the offer, say no comment, or completely shut down the rumor by saying no way in heck would I leave.

by mikeslovak on Apr 5, 2010 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

One idiotic franchise to another

I have lots of respect for Coach K, but the guy has never coached an NBA game before and we’re coming off of one of the worst seasons in NBA history. I get the name recognition but i don’t want to see this guy quit after one season after finding out NBA players are totally different from college kids.

Money talks obviously, but who knows if he wants to leave a great situation

by SamsHops on Apr 5, 2010 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Someone should give Mike Budenholzer a look

He’s Greg Popovich’s right hand man and has been with the Spurs for 16 years. He’s got an awesome knowledge of the game, and can handle big pressure moments.

by muwu on Apr 5, 2010 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Love Coach K., Not Crazy about the Alternatives

Hiring Coach K. would bring us instant credibility as an organization committed to and capable of becoming an elite team. While I thought that no top free agent would come to the Nets in this off-season, Coach K. and a strong season finish could change that.

Plan B doesn’t look so hot. I can’t get past the fact that Avery Johnson says the dumbest things in his current job—just consistently poor analysis. I’m sure it is a big reason why he hasn’t been hired. He should get off TV if he ever wqants to coach again. JVG is a bad match for the Nets personnel and for the current NBA game. His focus on tough physical play was relevant ten years ago. Successful NBA teams rely more on speed than on strength these days, even the ones with strong D. Don’t know much about Wright, but how did the last coach we hired from Villanova do? OK, cheap shot, but he’s a risk, not an asset. I’d rather go with a top NBA assistant if Coach K. is a commie or from another planet and doesn’t want tens of millions of dollars.

by jabez on Apr 5, 2010 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Whoever the coach is

Needs to get this team to push the tempo more. I don’t want to hear Brook can’t run the floor, that’s nonsense. And I’m not saying Suns or Warriors tempo, just more of an effort to run when the offense stalls. Defense has much to do with this, good defense and creating turnovers can lead to easy bucks, which leads to better rhythm in half court sets.

by SamsHops on Apr 5, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

What I got out of this is...

if whats written here is true, than I think it’s a good sign. Whether we get coach K or not, the most important thing to take out of this article is that the owner is willing to spend the money to turn this team around.

by LetsGoNets on Apr 5, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I hate Duke and can’t stand the “Rat Face” Krzyzewski. But i must admit the guy can coach and it would be a great hire for the Nets, even if he has no experience. I’m not sure how anyone could turn down 15million a year to coach a team with this much cap space / draft picks / and young talent.

by Pawley on Apr 5, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Um, yeah, O’Brien only looked good at the time because he had Pierce and Walker. Look at how he’s doing with the Pacers – and he could be FIRED after this season.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Apr 5, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Pretty much any NBA coach is only as good as his players let him be

Heck, Cleveland erased a 22 point deficit after Mike Brown left. Mike Brown’s a better coach when he’s NOT coaching.

Only a few select coaches can truly bring wins to a team. Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich, Larry Brown, Rick Adleman, Jerry Sloan.

Everyone else will pretty much see success or failure consistent with the talent they have

by muwu on Apr 5, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Coaches do that all the time. They stand up their players and try to get tossed out to get them energized. Sometimes it kick starts that engine again and sometimes it doesn’t.

by head_hunter on Apr 5, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coach k would help us lure boozer

by Andy. on Apr 5, 2010 11:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think the fate of EVERY coach EXCEPT for John Wooden is determined by the talent they have around them.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Apr 5, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Well Rick Adleman

was able to turn this year’s rockets team into a pretty solid group. Did anyone think that team was gonna be in the playoff hunt late into the season? Everyone assumed they would be absolutely terrible.

Coach Pop has been able to weather aging superstars, a litany of injuries, and integration of a lot of new players to keep San Antonio as good as always.

Larry Brown’s magically turned Charlotte into one of the best defensive teams in the league

by muwu on Apr 5, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

One thing that people forget that Coach K will bring even to 20 and early 30 year olds is

a respect factor, everybody respects coach K, if he does come here to coach, I still doubt it. But he will bring along some former NBA coach to be his assistant or some young up and coming coach, not that big of a deal.

by Atronic on Apr 5, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Ettore Messina seems like someone more likely to be brought in

And frankly, probably a better choice too.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Apr 5, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

No to Messina

European bball and the NBA are two different worlds.

by Andres B on Apr 6, 2010 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

And college basketball and the NBA isn't?

Trying to say Messina wouldn’t be a good NBA coach is just silly.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

by Ben R on Apr 6, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was not being sarcastic.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Apr 5, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Ettore Messina > Scott Brooks > Coach K >>>>>>>>>>>>> all other NBA coaches (NOBODY expected the Thunder to be THIS GOOD, THIS QUICKLY).

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Apr 5, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

How much of that was Brooks and how much was Durant being so good?

You can tell that to Greg Popovich’s .675 career winning percentage and the Spurs’ near .70 winning percentage, the best in any professional sport over the last decade

by muwu on Apr 6, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

and not just durant

it’s not like they just had a few first rounders, they’re entire starting five is like top 5-7 picks.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 6, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Winning an NCAA championship is a LOT harder than winning an NBA championship in the age of one-and-done.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Apr 6, 2010 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I was referring to the fact that star players (Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony) spend one year in college and then declare for the NBA draft.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Apr 6, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah most college power houses

don’t recruit those types of players anymore. Carolina passed on Wall, who’s from Raleigh, for that specific reason.

in billionaire russian playboys we trust.

by Gina on Apr 6, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brooks took over during the season, and they didn’t have James Harden, or Eric Maynor, or Thabo Sefolosha.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Apr 10, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

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