Prokhorov Jokes: "Perhaps I Should Get Acquainted With Mugabe"
Mikhail Prokhorov doesn't seem fazed by a US congressman's charges that one of his companies violated US sanctions laws against Zimbabwe and its dictator, Robert Mugabe.
He jokingly told a writer for his "Snob" magazine that the charges and resultant publicity are part of the "usual American phobia" regarding Russians, adding, "I was expecting something like this."
He compared himself to a character in a classic Russian comedy who is wrongly accused of robbery. "It's the same with me and Zimbabwe," he added sarcastically. "It got me thinking, maybe I should go visit Zimbabwe, get acquainted with Mugabe."
- Mikhail Prokhorov responded to the accusations of links with Mugabe regime (Machine Translation) - Ksenia Semenova - Snob
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"typical American phobia"
Oh yeah??? The guy comes from a country where most are poor and live in poverty and a few are very wealthy. That’s called logic, not phobia. What did ya pay those people to risk their life and health to mine that nickel? Probably not to hard to become rich when you pay people minuscule wages, no benefits, no 401k, etc, etc. Don’t even go there Proky.
very different levels of development
and he does have a reputation of being a progressive…at least comparatively.
And he is right…as this board has shown sometimes. He is KGB or he is Russian mob. It’s a bias.
Yup
Even 60 minutes tried to imply that he basically did something incredibly illegal to gain his wealth and without saying it, insinuated plenty about the “hits” on businessmen.
That did not. I taped it and watched it several times.
They said what was done was totally legal by their Russian system that was coming into place.
He was just lucky to be at the right place at the right time in history, and with the right credentials.
Yeah but you have to admit we all thought he was really a crime boss or something typical of American Xenophobic attitude
We do have pretty strong biases here tho, the whole most interesting man in the world thing you know, not saying he is an Angel but different to us automatically spells bad in most peoples mind without the full story coming out.
"Typical American phobia"
where most are poor and live in poverty and a few are very wealthy
Funny, this sounds exactly…like…the…United…States…of…America…
…even though TV keeps you thinking every one is rich and well to do and what not…
What are you talking about?
The middle class in nonexistent in Russia. While the countries has seen a rise in prosperity a very large portion lives below the poverty line. Some studies showing numbers around 50%. Meanwhile 13% of american are below the poverty line. A line that dwarfs that of russia by the way. So go ahead, pull something else out of your @$$.
Pascarell's response
Here is the link from The Record with Pascarell responding to what happened.
Wrong move Proky. Just keep your mouth shut...
Americans don’t like sarcasm. That’s why most of my posts are trashed.
Americans take seriously the things that are not serious.
That’s what makes us so special.
I could just imagine Bush asking him if he plays basketball.
Then telling him that he used to own a baseball team.
Who is the short man in the background with his hand over his mouth, in disbelief?
Well... No... Let him get "elected/approved" first...
There will be plenty of time for gloating…
And don’t make jokes about a ruthless dictator in a African country, unless of course, you are George Bush Junior…. He got away with everything.
Bush made a joke about an african dictator?
I dont get it. He got away with nothing, every little flub or mistake was reported from MSNBC to Jay Leno.
So a guy gets accused of helping a vicious dictator by a politician
when there appears to be no evidence of same…and people get upset when he acts sarcastic?
I think he will get more support than before from the NBA owners.
He also will get a laugh from Obama, and will be putting himself in a league with a top Russian Diplomat status.
To shun Proky now would be like insulting Russia.
Obama won’t let that happen. He will call Treasury Sec. Timothy Gaithner and tell him to end this matter.
He should still be investigated
If he is really telling the truth, then the investigation shouldn’t be a problem. By refusing to go with the process, it can raise a number of suspicions. Let’s not forget many of the former MLB players that don’t want to take the test all because they claim that they didn’t take any steriods, though they can say that they were right just by taking the test and comming out negative on the results. If it were up to me, I would have Proky answer to a lie detector that reads brain waves to really see if he telling the truth or not.
Yes, lets investigate everyone for everything
can’t hurt if you’re innocent right? That’s called a police state.
Your probably not as honest
Mabye you should be given a test with a lie detector as well.
by Tal Barzilai on Apr 15, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
As I said before, you should live in China for a while.
Try to get the legal system in Beijing to save your property when the Gov’t. wants to put up a shopping mall where you live.
If you are lucky, they will tell you where you will be moved to and hopefully it won't cost extra.
They will do it very swiftly with no chance for a moment of delay.
If you try to fight back, you would have to be re-educated.
And the general public will think you are wrong to disagree.
umm...
…while I see where you’re going with this, it’s pretty misinformed, particularly the part about the general public thinking you were wrong…what one thinks and how one acts in society don’t necessarily correlate, especially under hard state opression…
There was a key meeting in February. The company said they had no representative there. They have evidence of that.
Its all on their web site. Sec Gaithner probably already verified this. No need to investigate further.
Prokhorov is now of Diplomat status.
You know what they say about Diplomats.
Diplomatic Immunity!
Absolutely should be investigated
This guy is so funny I want to barf. Would love to know all the illegal dealings he is involved with and then see if Stern would still be interested. Actually of course he would, this seems hopeless.
No reason. Case closed
Diplomatic Immunity anyway!
Start packing or get out the chains.
Cut the excuses
I don’t buy into that diplomatic immunity stuff. That’s like saying that if they commit a crime, they can get away with it because the immunity prevents certain investigations. Currently there are a number of UN diplomats that get away with parking tickets for parking in the nor parking and standing zones right by the UN, and I feel that they should start paying what they owe. Honestly, I think that diplomatic immunity should either be abolished or limited, because I feel that they should be prosecuted for the crimes they commit, and they should not get a free pass no matter what. Even a slap on the wrist is not enough, because if a person who didn’t have that protection committed the same crimes, they would be locked up and have the key thrown away.
by Tal Barzilai on Apr 15, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
you gotta realise
it is pointless. And you gotta realise, there are much bigger and graver issues that should be disturbing you in our world/society that should be taking your time and energy then the Nets moving to Brooklyn. I’m all for justice and against corruption, but you gotta realise that this is simply how our society runs from top down, profit first. How else you explain the state of the world? or the state of the Nets for that matter?
You "gotta realise"
That it is spelled ‘realize’. What is this “state of the world” that you are talking about? Uninformed, uneducated nonsense.
U gotta realiZe
that not everyone on this post is born in America and have English as a mother tongue. So your insulting my spelling, and me being a foreigner, shows how uninformed and uneducated you are.
What state of the world? Are you blind?
Do you only experience the glitz and glamor of this world? Do you only choose to look at People.com, E! and Friends or something? Are you unaware that there are other lands other than the United States? Have you ever visited one of them? They do exist, I can assure you.
Are you aware, that the vast majority of Americans live below the poverty line? Are you aware of mass starvation in Africa? Have you even heard of the AIDS virus? Do you know that since the US invaded Iraq 2 million civilians have lost their lives and 4 million have turned into refugees? Do you know what is happening the Congos? Have you seen how people earn their money in some other parts of the world? Does the word Sweatshop ring any bells for you? How about the rise of fascist parties in Europe? Oh, and the fact that we are creating irreperable damage to our own ecology and planet…
But no, pick up your pay check, wear your blazer, drive your mercedes, keep going to your country club and keep living in a fabricated bubble. Tool.
Vast majority of American are below the poverty line???
You see, this is why I felt I needed to attack you. Because you just make stuff up. The “vast majority” of Americans are not below the poverty line. Neither is the majority. A small minoirty is below the poverty line. However, if the american poverty line were to be the same as the russian poverty line than basically nobody would be below the poverty line. These are facts. Not something that I am making up to prove a point. Like you do.
So you are saying that because there is starvation, disease (something that has existed for thousands of years) that we shouldnt discuss the Nets and sports?
But you will just make something else up to dispute this. I know that you know that you are making stuff up and that you know that you have no idea what you are talking about. If you want to come at me with american poverty levels please provide facts and a link to the website where ypu found these facts. Nobody on this site has poverty level memorized so if you truely are not making this up then provide your source.
Nets?
I didn’t say anything to anyone about discussing the Nets…I would be a real hypocrite if I said something like that, seeing how much time I spend on this site, if mostly reading.
I was just thinking that spending so much energy on the injustice of moving an NBA team from NJ to NY is bit odd when one considers how many grosser injustices are occuring around the world around the clock…
…but anyways, I’m just making stuff up and have no idea what I’m talking about…
…you’re right, I over reacted before…but it doesn’t change the fact that many people are in fact living below the poverty line, and this is increasing. In the states more people are living below the poverty line then in countries like Chine, Libya, Croatia, which is absurt because the states is vastly richer proportionately. The people in New Orleans, who were basically left to fend for themselves in the wake of Catrina (in huge contrast to the efforts when wildfires threaten mansions and villas out in southern Cali) didn’t seem to be doing too well from what I saw here on TV.
…But it seems like you don’t care about people living in poverty. You don’t agree that it’s terrible or at all a problem that people live in poverty, you argue that they’re better off than they would be in Russia. Which is probably true. But it doesn’t matter if ten thousand are below the poverty line in the states or in the world or ten million because even ten period should not be ignored, downplayed or tolerated, especially in the age of industry and mass production and our capability as a society to produce much much more than we need.
And what does this comparison with Russia suggest? If you compare Russia to Ethiopea people in Russia would look much better off. In comparison to what’s happening in Gaza for example, or parts of Asia and Africa there is no poverty in the states, or violence for that matter. Does that mean that it’s acceptable or okay that people are living off welfare or whatever or living on the streets?
No one should be living in poverty. That’s the point. And when we have the potential to produce overwhelming quantities of things that no one needs like nuclear weapons and M16s it becomes even harder to fathom, and ignore, the fact that, that the majority of the world is being neglected, and screwed.
…but I don’t know what I’m talking about anyways…Maybe I’ll go watch cnn or fox news to get a clue…
Taxes
I give over 1,000 dollars every paycheck to taxes which helps support people on welfare, social security, etc. And now thanks to Obama that will increase even more as I will be paying for millions of peoples health insurance. That 1,000 dollars represents over 1/3 of my salary. Over 1/3!!!! I work damn hard for that money. Today at work was so stressful when I left it felt like someone beat me up.
Am I the only one who actually tries to read the story? I can't read Russian
The Machine translation doesn’t appear to be posted. The Russian original is given.
the rest of the story
is the statements by Onexim, RenCap and the NBA. The comments we posted in the item are what he said. We could post the Machine translation but we were having difficulty earlier.
No Translation
There is no translation. Whole thing is in Russian. It is time to brush up my Russian :)
I like the idea that the owner is a smart ***ed fellow. I think some of us need to relax.
"No one stands on the top of the world. Not you, not me, not even gods. But the unbearable vacancy of the throne in the sky is over. From now on...I will be sitting on it."
with you there....
don’t want a sissy owner…

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