Whatever became of Jason Kidd?
19 points, 16 rebounds, 17 assists.
Calling it a triple-double just doesn't do it justice.
Since the 1986-87 season -- when Basketball-Reference.com's box score database begins -- Jason Kidd's triple-Montana in last Friday's 111-103 OT win over Atlanta is only the third of its kind. Magic Johnson predictably had one of them -- his was actually a triple-Winger -- in a 142-118 win over Denver on April 18, 1989, scoring 24 points with 17 rebounds and 17 assists.
Wanna guess who owns the other one? It's Jason Kidd. From 1996.
In that 105-101 win over the Clippers, a 22-year-old Kidd played all 48 minutes in posting a 21-16-16 line. But what he did against the Hawks, less than a month from his 37th birthday, is unprecedented.
There have now been 41 triple-doubles by players 34 and older; Kidd has nearly half of them with 19. Of the 14 triple-doubles by players 35 or older, five belong to Kidd. However, only one of the other 35-plussers had as many as 12 in each category: Larry Bird's inconceivable 49-14-12 against Portland in 1992.
Forgetting about age, Kidd now owns the only 15-rebound, 15-assist, 3-or-fewer-turnover game in the B-R.com era. The only one. In fact, the rest of the NBA has only four 14-rebound, 14-assist, 3-or-fewer-turnover games in that span, by Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Grant Hill, and LeBron James, and all but Jordan -- who did it in a remarkable 30 minutes -- needed at least 48 minutes of playing time to accomplish the feat. Kidd, meanwhile, has four all by himself, and has required just 44, 42, 38, and 46 minutes to do it.
So I think you can see where I'm going with this: Jason Kidd is better than MJ, Bird, Hill, and LeBron combined.
While a student at Cal, I was lucky enough to witness the Jason Kidd era in its entirety.* The guy was just unbelievable with the basketball in his hands. The astounding array of assists was unlike anything I'd ever seen. Three-quarter-court bounce passes with crazy english on them... Oddly angled lobs on the fast break... No-look behind-the-backs threaded between two guys... His court vision was otherworldly, and he played the game on an entirely different level from anyone else out there. I was also lucky enough to watch him in the cathedral that was Harmon Gym. Going to a college basketball game is just so superior the NBA experience, and Harmon was one of the places to see a game. Tiny and cramped, and louder than shit.
* Incidentally, Kidd and I both dropped out of school following the 1994 basketball season. He left to make literally hundreds of millions of dollars playing in the NBA, while I, uh ...
During Kidd's first season (my sophomore year), he got the coach fired; led the nation in steals with an NCAA freshman-record 110; established single-season school records for steals and assists; led the team to just its second NCAA Tournament bid in 33 years; hit a crazy, contested, last-second pretzel shot to beat LSU in the first round; and knocked out two-time defending National Champion Duke to advance to the Sweet 16 (where the team lost to Kansas).
The next season, Kidd was just as brilliant, leading the nation in assists while breaking his own school record, earning first-team All-American honors, and becoming the first sophomore ever to be named Pac-10 Player of the Year. Unfortunately, the team battled injuries all year long and bricked its way out of the NCAA Tournament in the first round, after which Kidd bolted.
As did I, though I would return 12 years later to complete my degree. I suppose that brings the score to Jason Kidd $165,853,968; me 1.
*****
Kidd's NBA career, which sometimes gets downgraded because of the lack of a title, has been both steady and spectacular. He now has the second-most assists (10,766) in league history and the fourth-most steals, with 2,313. Now in his 16th NBA season, Kidd is still averaging nearly two steals per game; if he maintains that pace, he'll likely move into second place by the end of next season.
He's also played the 13th-most minutes all-time, and his 37.13 MPG are almost identical to renowned ironman Karl Malone's 37.16. And Kidd has used those minutes like no other guard before him, pulling down 7,740 rebounds, more than Alonzo Mourning, Kevin McHale, Wayne Embry, and Sam Perkins.
And for all the _ason Kidd jokes -- you know, He's got no J. Hilarious! -- do you realize that Kidd is now fifth all-time in 3-pointers made? Fifth! Now granted he's taken a high volume of 3s, and his career percentage (.347) is only 197th; still, that's higher than Kobe Bryant (.341), Sam Cassell (.331), Rip Hamilton (.343), and Robert Horry (.341). Additionally, Kidd's scored over 15,000 points, more than Bill Russell, Shawn Kemp, Dennis Johnson or Tim Hardaway.
Who's tired of statistics?
Fine, we'll move on to more statistics. Please take a gander at this here chart:
| Last before | First with | Change | Last with | First after | Dropoff | |
| Mavs | 13-69 | 36-46 | +23 | 26-56 | 20-62 | -6 |
| Suns | 41-41 | 56-26 | +15 | 51-31 | 36-46 | -15 |
| Nets | 26-56 | 52-30 | +26 | 41-41 | 34-48 | -7 |
| AVG | 27-55 | 48-34 | +21 | 39-43 | 30-52 | -9 |
All are records for the first full season before/after Kidd's arrival/departure. And the improvement that Kidd apparently brings to each of his teams -- which, combined with the above-mentioned statistics, makes him one of the five greatest point guards of all time -- is probably the biggest reason Mark Cuban decided to roll the dice and re-acquire Kidd in a deal with the Nets centered around Devin Harris.
While New Jersey fans sure liked it, the move from the Mavs' perspective was not well-received.
Nor did it pay off for Dallas in terms of regular season record. In 2006-07, the Mavs won 67 games. In 2008-09, they won just 51. Plus Harris blossomed in New Jersey, earning an All-Star berth while Kidd was outscored 115 NBA players, including a T.J. (Ford), an O.J. (Mayo), a D.J. (Augustin) and a pair of C.J.'s (Watson and Miles). At that point, the (ahem) initial impressions seemed to be correct.
However, in last year's playoffs, the Mavs broke through to win their first series since the devastating loss to Bennett Salvatore, Joe DeRosa, and the rest of the NBA's officials in the 2006 Finals. So was that enough to turn the trade in the Mavs favor?
Although there was some additional salary-cap flotsam, the deal essentially boiled down to Kidd for Harris, $3 million, and first-round picks in 2008 and 2010. The '08 pick turned into Ryan Anderson -- who, coincidentally, played at Cal during my second go-round on campus -- and while Anderson is a very solid rotation player, the Nets have already essentially given him away to Orlando as a throw-in in the Vince Carter deal. The second pick will likely be in the high-20s, where you're lucky to get a player the caliber of Taj Gibson.
Meanwhile, Harris has taken a major step back this year as Kidd is putting together his best season in four years. In fact, Kidd actually leads Harris in PER (Player Efficiency Rating) 17.37 to 16.25. Kidd has also been healthy -- that's really Harris' bugaboo -- and has thus played over 600 more minutes, so that his Value Added (213.7, the ninth-best among point guards) is nearly twice that of Harris (119.6).
Since the deal was made, Harris has a huge edge in PPG, nearly doubling Kidd, 18.8 to 9.5. But look at the rest of the numbers (through last Friday):
| Kidd | Harris | |
| FG% | .423 | .425 |
| 3P% | .418 | .284 |
| 3PM | 289 | 124 |
| FT% | .813 | .811 |
| FTA/G | 1.3 | 7.3 |
| Reb | 6.0 | 3.3 |
| Ast | 9.1 | 6.8 |
| Stl | 2.0 | 1.5 |
| Blk | .48 | .25 |
| TO | 2.4 | 2.9 |
| Ast/TO | 3.8 | 2.3 |
| Fouls | 2.1 | 2.5 |
| Games | 168 | 135 |
| Min | 6003 | 4743 |
| MPG | 35.7 | 35.1 |
The field goal and free throw percentages are nearly identical. Everything else except for free throw attempts per game is heavily in Kidd's favor. Is it enough to offset Harris' advantage in scoring?
I guess that depends on what you like. Still, you can have the guy who's won five times in 45 games this season; I'll take the one who's won everywhere he's been, mostly because he makes plays like this.
And no, I'm not biased. What in the world would ever give you that impression?
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Fantastic piece, marvellously written.
I place the guy in my all-time top five point guards. He is – even at his current age – THAT good. It was simply a pleasure watching his unfathomably multi-faceted game night in, night out in Nets colors for so long…
Until his final year in Jersey.
His last 12 months with us transformed my feelings of adoration into feelings of disgust and hatred. That said, my respect for his basketball mind and ability remains. As much as I can no longer stand the man, I will always regard him amongst the highest quality point men the basketball world has ever seen.
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Outstanding post, very interesting.
When New Jersey made the Kidd trade, his shooting numbers were terrible. Absolutely dreadful. Harris looked like a huge improvement there. But lo and behold, Kidd turns into an expert marksman in Dallas, shooting 43%, which doesn’t look that great until you see that most of his shots are threes. Kidd, at his advanced age, plays more minutes per game than Harris, misses less time with injury, and is leading his team with his trademark poise and veteran savvy. Oh, and he’s putting up better numbers virtually across the board.
Who won? Not the team that is 6-??.
The real "Masters of Panic" are commenting on this blog.
It's amazing what happens...
…when a player is inspired to play hard for a franchise that has an owner that wants to win at any cost.
Kidd saw clearly that this wasn’t going to be the case in NJ, and he left. I don’t like what he did before he left, but I understand. Ratner had destroyed everything that this franchise had become briefly when Kidd came in here and gave Nets fans something that we are longing for now: a superstar who wanted to win. I wish him the best of luck.
Great article btw
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by MrDollarBills on Mar 7, 2010 7:49 AM EST up reply actions
Enjoyed your writing.
You can’t really claim a single winner in the trade. The teams had different objectives in dealing their point guards. Dallas needed to win immediately and Kidd practically strong-armed the organization into dealing him. Both teams got what they wanted; a veteran, team-oriented winner for a title-seeking Dallas team and a young, up-and-coming point for the rebuilding Nets.
That said, still have an autographed Kidd jersey in my bedroom on a stand.
I think the trade from the Nets perspective was that it had to be done.
KIdd would have wanted it out, and the Nets got as much as you could expect for a guy making the money Kidd made. I think the mistake for the Nets was keeping Carter, but even that was done to pacify Kidd somewhat too. Ultimately, I think Ryan Anderson has turned out to be a good player for the Nets as a rookie and this season for the Magic and the cost of getting Courtney Lee was losing Ryan Anderson.
Unless Devin Harris stays healthy, and the other pick from the Mavs turns out to be a find, I think most people will say that the Mavs won the trade. The truth is, IMO, it doesn’t matter given the reality of how the NBA actually works. If the Nets get John Wall, and build around him (assuming Wall becomes a superstar), then the Nets will be okay moving forward with a franchise player. The Nets have enough quality pieces on the team that makes me think they aren’t really that far away if their is luck in terms of the draft (getting the best possible player wherever they pick from 1-4) and through free agency/trades. This is true of every team in the NBA though.
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Agreed, Mostly
Nice way to say what had to be said. The Nets were between a rock and a hard place, and squeezed juice (not just water) from a rock. It was good given the situation. And Anderson was no throw in… He was demanded to get Lee. I still don’t think that was a good trade. And this year’s draft is deep so hopefully we can get a solid rotation player with the Mavs pick.
by Paul G. B. (formerly Paul B) on Mar 9, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
Excellent article, and very well written. There is no doubt that Jason Kidd is one of the greatest players to play the game of basketball professionally, and arguably within the top three best PGs of all time. The man could see things that nobody could possibly see. He was a visionary and brought a sense of creative art to the game of basketball. There are very few others who are comparable, past and present. Jason is a born leader and will always be remembered by every Nets fan that watched him play throughout the early part of the 2000s.
Its unfortunate how he ended his career in New Jersey, however. Although I don’t blame him – I do agree with his sentiments that Ratner was diverting the team to a wrong direction because of his own self interests – I do think that the method in which he left will always leave a scar with all Nets fans. He demanded to leave. He refused to play some games. One of the greatest Nets players to wear the uniform, acting this unprofessional. I will always respect Jason for his basketball talent. But as a man, I have lost full respect for him. I do not want him going anywhere with Dallas. I always envisioned Kidd retiring with the New Jersey Nets. I never thought it would end the way it did.
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Also, in regards to your ultimate question regarding who won the Jason Kidd trade between the Nets and the Mavericks, the answer is: to be determined. The Nets unloaded a huge amount of money for a player in Kidd who is not in his decline, but is beyond his prime. In return, they received a young threat in Devin Harris who is only increasing his value as this season concludes by playing solid basketball. I say the trade results are undetermined because, if the Nets do receive the first pick in the 2010 draft and they do get John Wall, they will likely move Devin Harris. the piece the Nets receive in return for Harris will be the ultimate say in who got the best of the Jason Kidd trade.
"We aim above the mark to hit the mark." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
But please look at the last few seasons with Kidd
We were
23-29 with J-Kidd in 2008.
41-41 in 2007
49 wins in 2006 with healthy big threes
42wins in 2005
we can’t be better with Kidd every year, and Kidd will never be younger, so don’t look at how Kidd can bring his team.
Mavericks are a better team, they have so many good teammates to help Kidd, Harris was also a good player with Mavericks.
We are made for the future, period. If we didn’t lose now, we can’t win big in the future.
Last year, it was definitely the Nets, as Devin Harris looked like a world-beating All-Star
But this year…remember that the Mavericks are one of the oldest teams in the league.
Show me the ring...
Jason Kidd has never won a NBA championship and probably will never win one.
Case closed….
The Nets needed to make this trade....
Great article btw, but i feel like the Nets had to get rid of “the big 3” in order to rebuild because the big 3 experiment failed. We all know that JKIDD at 55 will still be a more complete player than Harris, but he just wanted out and Harris and the Dallas picks were a very good trade in order for the franchise to start rebuilding.
He's an all time great
Karl Malone, John Stockton, plenty of great players never won a championship Mike.
He’s good in Dallas because Cuban has no problem adding talent around Kidd.
That’s what Kidd wants he’s a pure point guard. The defense gives him the 3 he takes and makes them.

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