PATHETIC.

Start Terrence Williams

Hollah!

Atleast we were not down by 51 like knicks lmao. Oh and Twill needs to start next game. forget Trentons Defense, Twill is awesome, he can attack basket and is starting to make shots, he even got past james a couple times.

Cavs quick front line carved the Nets up. Athletic forwards should be #1 on their shopping list this summer.

YI should not be starting or playing heavy minutes I’m sorry. He passes the ball to Lebron, fumbles it into the backcourt, gets the ball fit on the back of his head, doesn’t box out etc….on and on and on. If he not going well offensively he shouldn’t be out there. He’s is kind of a niche player who can come of the bench and hit some shots. You on’t see Eddie House starting do you.

TWill is officially not a bust

Yi didn’t have a bad game. You can point fingers at quite few players before Yi tonight.

T-will looked really good driving to the basket. IF he can do that and hit the 3 i am fine if he never gets a mid-range jumper. He forced the passes a little bit in the game but i am happy to see production from him. He is definately not a bust though.

Brook Big Mouth Lopez IS PATHETIC.
No Foul = No Defensive
It’s time for him to shut up and play D.

The bright spot for the Nets tonight was Terrence Williams play. He played great.

TWill’s got game. Not a surprise to those not prone to emotive reactions over rookie immaturity and inconsistency.

Yi was allright. Brook Lopez missing a lot of shots. Devin Harris was horrible on defense, as always.

2nd game in row that Lopez and Harris struggled without Lee. Without Lee out there creating space the lane gets packed and they have no room to operate. Cavs were daring Hassell, CDR and Williams to hit from the outside.

“Chris2 Says:
March 3rd, 2010 at 10:03 pm

TWill’s got game. Not a surprise to those not prone to emotive reactions over rookie immaturity and inconsistency."

Amen

He just needs to become more disciplined. That 5 TO’s is a n eyesore on an otherwise solid stat line.

Is just stupid to even talk about Yi, when Lopez was missing and forcing shots. Lopez should be bench tonight. There is no reason why Hickson is dunking and taking Lopez layup after layup.

If Lopez has got to play better defense, I know he can score but his defense is pathelic.

Twill better start next game with Lee

Hassel should officially be relegated to the bench please KIKI play our young players, and Boone is one of those.

Wasn’t as bad as the Knicks against the Cavs at least, the Nets actually made them play their starters well into the 4th. Thank god for TWill or this could’ve been much worse, Hassell couldn’t guard Lebron for %%, Yi was ok statistically but but at times seemed to forget he was playing basketball, CDR was ok (didn’t hit many shots but he was finally showing some energy/off ball movement), Lopez was having a pretty bad shooting night but somewhat rebounded eventually, and Harris had 1 assist…

@seeker

Hickson is just too quick for Lopez. There are some people on this site that want the Nets to draft Cousins and have Lopez play PF next year. This games should be exhibit #1 why that is not a good idea.

Can we get by 3 posts without someone mentioning Yi? Kiki let Twill play tonight and he did well.

@Antoine

CDR was not ok, he was terrible. He was as useless as Hassell.

I agree. Can people stop talking about Yi only after every game? Say something different, for a change.

Wow are people blaming Lopez? It wasn’t that lopez forced shots. He got to the rim and just missed. Shot poorly. Had a bad night. happens to everyone sometime (except yi who it happens to an incredible amount. Brooks defense was mediocre this game, but @seeker you are calling Lopez’s defense pathetic while defending Yi? hahahahaha Yi has absoutely zero awareness.

we talk about Yi…..cuz she sucks…..just like the coach

Devin harris had 1 ast?!!

twill should have been starting and Cdr needs to be given the green light to shoot and drive. he is the most creative scorer on our team. stop handcuffing the kid!

hayes, hassel, yi, do not need to be playing big minutes.

LAST NIGHT IN THE NBA AND D-LEAGUE
REGGIE WILLIAMS (Golden State call-up)—36 minutes, 13 points (6-14, 1-4 from three), 6 rebounds, 3 assists.
ALEXANDER JOHNSON—32 minutes, 31 points (11-16, 9-11 from line), 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 1 block.
  
Reggie Williams was playing in only his second game since being called up; his six rebounds tied for the team lead. Reggie Williams (a 3-pt. threat) and Terrence Williams (a rebounding point-forward) would have been a nice Williams combo, playing next to Devin Harris. Reggie Williams was named D-League player of the month last month.
  
Alexander Johnson had his second-straight 31-point game. The 4 assists are fine for a big man.
  
A 10-day contract for Alexander Johnson and Reggie Williams—too expensive for our Nets (cheaper than Golden State).

Actually Yi had one of his better games – for him.
However, we now heard Kiki admit that Yi “is a project”, which is why he was given 42 minutes after 39 minutes last game. He will still be a Sub next year – even if Kiki is still around.
  
Nets were going to lose anyway, but how many games has Kiki thrown away by giving too many minutes to “his project”?

As I have said all along, TWill was just about right with the #11 pick, and he may still surprise if given a Real chance. ESPN Rookie rankings are worthless.

Even TWill’s outside shooting form is decent now – he just needs to work hard in off season for consistency.

Nets better not trade TWill if it doesn’t bring back a starter or be used to get another high draft pick (say to get Cousins).

LOL @ TWill…Announcer “So what do take from playing LeBron tonight”? T-Will “I need to do more pushups he’s huge” Hahaha

Yi didn’t suck tonight, get over it. It would be very simple if Yi was the source of all Nets problems, we would just get rid of the guy.

People that repeat ignorance is worse than ignorant.

Only 1 assist for our star point guard… but he’s got a “decent contract”, so we’ll sweep poor performance under the rug.

Yi played 42 Minutes?? Who is he LeBron? Seriously WTH

@Tin Man
Statistically maybe, but in terms of aggressiveness and off-ball movement he was better.

@Malorkayel uhh Yi had a few stretches where he actually played mediocre ball, but most of the time he was just terrible. I will say it again. He has 0 awareness, and that hurts us. This game even when he did something right it looked really ugly.

lol…twill with the mic is hilarious…next rj?

I guess I’ll be the first to say it…

I would be JUST fine if BronBron stays home this summer.

Tell you truth, I don’t know if I want a sideline dancin’ show boat- rings or not. I’d rather hold out for a title and make it our business to win as a team, then pay for a prima-donna. I hate Kobe. Would James be that different? I’m not sure…

I’ll be sure to leave plenty of room for a healthy serving of hat, but thats my thoughts.

Only good thing to come out of this game was the T-Will coast to coast dunk which after he was dubbed “Mr. T” and the A-Team theme played.

I don’t think Yi had a bad game, but I think it’s kind of ridiculous that he got 41 minutes, Humphries got 17 and Boone didn’t even get in the game. There’s really no excuse for that. It’s not like Yi is playing so well you can’t see what you have in other guys.

@Barry Popik
When Del Harris quit, he should have left 1/2 of his $200,000 salary untouched. Therefore Thorn wouldn’t even have to go begging to Proky for permission to spend the $100,000.

Thorn could say to Ratner, that Proky would be upset if he inherits worst team ever – therefore please sign off on getting a D-Leaguer.

Problem remains that if Thorn did get a PF from D-League, Kiki might still refuse to play him! That could get nasty between Kiki and Thorn.

@Gina

Really, what’s the point of playing Boone. The Nets have seen enough of him over the years and his fate his sealed…he won’t be back next year. The only question regarding Boone is which Euro League team he’ll be on next year.

I thought Yi played too many minutes on paper and Brook took too many bad shots. Twill played under control and took his shots. CDR was no show, defenders gives him space to shoot. Harris got outplayed by Mo, but was ok.

@malokrayel Harris did not play ok. He was bad. No defense what so ever, only 1 assist. Looked out of it. He had a couple of flashy plays but that was it.

@Sparklespice

I have no expectations on Harris’ defense. He did have a nice block. If you say he played bad, I can’t say you’re wrong.

Fire KIKI!!!!

Hollah!!!

I never thought I would catch migraines as bad as I do watching this team. You want to point fingers at somebody but you really can’t the answer to this lose is simply Lebron James. Now everybody on this board can tell why he’s so great there’s nothing he does wrong on the court just a all around player. What really got me upset though is he played 14 straight mins before getting taken out with 10 mins left in the second. We started making a comeback down by I think 12 and the camera went to Coach Brown and you can read his lips “Lebron, Lebron, Lebron” all of a sudden Lebron hops off the bench waiting to check back in. All that proves is the Cavs CANNOT beat us without Lebron. Do not point fingers at Yi he did nothing wrong but play the mins the coach gave him that’s not his fault. I keep saying this over and over it is not the players fault BLAME KIKI! stop blaming Yi it’s really getting annoying he didn’t ask to be favored by the coach it is Kiki that is making Yi look bad! stop pointing fingers at Yi!

People…

3 steals, 2 BS, 10 boards, 5/11 and 2/3 out of 3pts….

Jamison is 9/23 with 9 boards / 37 mins…

whoa! 13 rebounds fell into jj hickson’s lap tonite!
also, for some reason he pushed the ball towards the basket and most of them happen to fall in!

FYI, MORE LAST NIGHT IN D-LEAGUE
HASHEEM THABEET (#2 pick, sent down from Memphis)—29 minutes, 8 points (1-9, 6-12 from line) 10 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 assist.
  
A horrible shooting night for Thabeet from the floor and the line. He was facing a sub-standard D-League center. I’m still waiting for a Hasheem Thabeet-Dwayne Jones matchup (March 14).
  
Nah, the Nets still wouldn’t sign Jones for 10 days.

I’m shocked how bad Thabeet is for #2 overall. They say Bigs take longer to develop.

The whole Yi favoritism issue is such a red herring. Everyone seems to want blame Yi for taking minutes away from CDR and Twill but in reality Yi’s minutes have nothing to do with them. Yi is a 4 and they’re 2/3’s. Whether Yi plays 2 minutes or 45 minutes has very little effect on them.

The people Yi is taking minutes from are Battie, Boone and Humphries. Battie and Boone will not be back next year and aren’t very good to begin with so what’s the point of playing them. Humphries has a 3 million player option so if you give him heavy minutes and he performs well the Nets run the risk of losing him.

Kiki really has no other option than to play Yi at this point.

it doesn’t matter people here will blame yi for taking away minutes from chris quinn if they can…

@ Tin man, he’s clearly not going to be a star but he’s a useful big man and at least in some closer games we’d probably have a better chance of winning with him getting some of those minutes.

Did anyone ever really expect Thabeet to be much of an offensive big men? I assumed whatever team drafted him would be doing it knowing at best he might score a few points on put backs but for the most part he’d be in there to get rebounds and alter every shot in the paint.

@Gina

Sorry, I just don’t see how playing Boone more minutes would help the Nets win more games. I’ve never liked him a player and quite frankly I’d rather see Battie play than Boone.

@ Tin Man Boone is our best defensive big, he would most definately help this team, it’s not about offense but defense he should be playing. 3 Big rotation where one plays 42 minutes makes no sense.

Yi now has 3 straight games in which he has recorded double-digits in rebounding. Definitely an improvement.

TWill should have started the game alongside Harris, Lopez, cdr and Boone or Hump at the four spot. Is Lee available to play next game? If he is Then remove cdr and start lee alongside the other four that I mention.. Lopez should work on his defense, rebounding and his shooting from Ten to twelve feet around the basket just in case the Nets drafted Cousins if we did not get the first pick.

LBJ SMALL FORWARD- 14 AST

DH POINT GUARD – 1 AST

Boone is a specialist. It takes a really good coach to use him effectively. Something we don’t have at the moment.

You’ll have better results getting Boone to learn an outside shot and become a complete player.

HEy guys do you remember the poiint in the game when yi tried to get a rebound but if bounced off his head? i am trying to make a video.

@ jirohkanzaki

The Nets lost tonight for two reasons
1. Opie played Swat out of position.
2. Yi sucks.

Boone may be a FA, but come August, Nets could bring him back for the Vets Min. if they don’t get 1-2 Bigs in draft/free agency. If Boone could get over his FT shooting problem, I wouldn’t mind to have him back as #12-#14 on team.

Maybe this is all a plot to decrease Boone’s value and keep Hump’s value down, so Hump stays and Boone would have to accept Vets. Min.??

@atronic

Boone is not and never has been a good defensive player in the NBA. No ability whatsoever to guard athletic PF’s.

Here are Yi’s and Boone’s numbers the last two years for points given up per 100 possesions while they’ve been on the court

08-09
Yi – 112.7
Boone – 112.4

09-10
Yi – 111.7
Boone – 112.4

Boone and Yi are both poor defensive players (as is Lopez) but the Nets have seen 4 years of Boone and he’s not coming back.

@Mr. Big
1. yes whenever opie plays SWat he is always out of position and doesn’t know where is supposed to be.
2. yi sucks but he doesn’t suck as much as SWat…he can suck those rebounds in the air like few can…but he needs suction cups on his fingers.

@Sparklespice

The shot or pass was so bad it bounced really hard off the backboard and off Yi’s hand and side of his head.

Not any more embarrassing than Brook tipping in the shot under his own basket. That’ll make the funnier video out of the 2.

I agree with Tin Man. What’s the point playing Boone? Haven’t we seen enough?! He is unlikely to be with the team next year. And he wouldn’t have made this game any better either. People brought in the PT issue because they ran out of things to say about Yi. When the worst team lost to the best team, just forget about finger pointing. The best is to comment on some of the plays. What is disappointing is that B Lo couldn’t take advantage of Shaq’s absence but T Will played a good game. That sorta even out things.

I agree with all of the Yi, CDR, TWill ,Harris etc bashing, if these guys were nba players then why are nets losing so many games. I get it ! Forget this year, ownership gave up on it long ago.Hopefully next year nets have Lopez,Harris, Dooling, Hayes, 1St pick, 2 free agents, maybe a solid trade and maybe one of these 4 will finally get it(yi,cdr,twill,clee),( my guess is clee), and a new coach!!!!! Keep 2 of these(Hump,Boone,Hassel) maybe things will look up for a long time!!!? Just a simple observation; nets down 21 and harris is diving for a loose ball into cavs bench. he is a keeper but needs to be kept under control on off.

also, second straight double-dboule

Would love to see Boone,CDR,and TWill for Robin Lopez.

Good to see Yi made 2 three pointers out of 3. What have been % of the Nets’ 3‘s this year, 25%?

@Tomas

The Shaq injury and not having Big Z for 30 days may wind up being a blessing in disguise for the Cavs. They have looked great the last couple of games and the Hickson/Jamison combo is a nightmare to match-up against.

When they’re at full strength in the playoffs they’ll be able to go big with Shaq/Z or small with with Hickson/Jamison and then add in Varajao for different combos.

Lets list all the obvious things wrong with his game since some of you are in denial or are part of the Chinese media. You know it is bad when even Kiki proclaims he is a project!

He is a soft player
No intensity
Can’t rebound in traffic
Dribbles off his legs
No post game for a 7 ft player
Poor passer
Loses track of his man on defense
Can’t defend his opponent face up
Horrible hands
Other players dribble right around him
Slow footwork
Does not tip back shots
Does not drive into the lane
Has very little bball instinct
Does not box out his man
Has been shooting lousy for long stretches
Has problems anticipating passes
Does not command a double team ever
Becomes a liability on the floor

I am sorry Yi, but, until I see any of these things improve drastically, you should not be getting the minutes!

Why do I pick out Yi? Because he becomes a huge liability and limits any chance of us winning games, furthermore, he was a top ten pick and is put on a pedestal. He has only shown me that he should be coming off the bench in short spurts. He is not the only player to blame, but, he his a glaring weakness to our lineup.

you left out the part where he can make women pregnant with his eye lasers.

Also, his magical lap that sucks in rebounds and make the ball go in the hoop for him.

Can’t forget the magical lap, does shaving make it’s power go away? Reasons for the inconsistency?

oh yes, yi’s magical lap…how could anyone miss that? :)

@ malorkayel Yes i laughed at brook lopez the tip in too. I still thought that ball off Yi’s head was funny so i want a video of that. Because it’s fresh in my mind. And as a matter of fact alot of the rebounds yi does get do fall in his lap. Because he is soo bad at boxing out i don’t know how he gets any rebounds. I completely agree with every observation of Justin Nj. Another very very unimpressive game from YI. DOn’t know how anyone can argue against that.

@Justin

Look at the bright side, soon Yi and the Nets will be in Brooklyn and you can turn your attention to picking out a scapegoat on the Newark Bears.

Hey Tin Man,

Can’t be any worse than watching Yi play for us! GO NEWARK BEARS! If they end up in Brooklyn, you better hope Yi is not still a main focus of this team or the building will be empty over there as well.

too bad not everyone is as lucky as yi as they actually have to work on getting rebounds…

@jirohkazaki So compared to previous games where he was rebounding terribly you think there is a new found aggression from YI to grab all those boards? because i haven’t seen it.

If you know the game of basketball, it is not hard to see that Yi is not a scapegoat, but, a glaring weakness on our team. He is at most a role player.

@JustinNJ and Sparklespice

Just a hint of sarcasm here, but thanks for the heads up. I almost didn’t see your “Yi suck” comments mixed in with the over 9000 “Yi suck” comments.

You know what’ll be a great idea? We start suggesting to “fire kiki”. So glad we thought of that.

People, please!!!…Stop blaming Yi for all the Nets loses and start thanking him for trying so hard to help Nets get John Wall next season!!!

@Justin

Yi is not a main focus now so why would he be a main focus in Brooklyn. The Nets have made it clear that the 3 players they like going forward are Lopez, Harris and Lee. Who ever they draft with their 1st pick will obviously join that group and hopefully they’ll be able sign a quality free agent. Yi plays now because there are no other options on the roster.

The Nets will end up in Brooklyn so start stocking up on your minor league apparel now.

I don’t know who annoys me more: Yi or Devin Harris.
I know the level of expectations are different, but for that reason, I’m gonna give the nod to DH. DH, time to go.

Bring on John Wall and send Yi back to the Great Wall of China!

Brooklyn to me is minor league. Sorry, to offend you! They will always be the NEW JERSEY NETS!

Yep, the 4th largest city in country is minor league. Any other pearls of wisdom?

Yep, look at all those teams that play in the fourth largest city. Beating down the door to call it home! Minor league to me. The only reason the Nets are being pushed there is because of the greed of one man!

Actually the Nets are going to Brooklyn because of 30 + years of non-support in New Jersey.

But keep going, I love hearing about this New Jersey being the majors and New York being the minors theory you have.

@ JustinNJ…what?

And the nets are being pushed out there because they have been losing money this entire decade, even when they were in back to back finals they were losing money.

Also yeah I’m no Yi fan but the Yi hate is a little bit out of control. We should refocus our hate in a more productive way.

Brook and Yi have no chemistry together… Yi would be great off the bench.

Humphries is the perfect spark off the bench, so there’s no other option but Yi in the starting lineup. Would you rather have Battie or Boone in the starting lineup? PLEASE! Yi isn’t the savior but he’s the best and only option we’ve got at this point, and puts forth a decent effort every night. He’s raw and can be extremely frustrating, but there are plenty of other problems that warrant more attention. Let’s focus on the regression of Devin Harris on both sides of the court, CDR’s complete regression in the second half of the season, defensive inconsistencies and a poor coach!

@Mr Dollar Bills

T-Will can keep this amount of play up only if the “coach” can be consistent himself in giving him the mins needed to accomplish that goal. One game T-will can have close to 20+ mins and the next it’s back to 8.

I went to the game last night and he was just atrocious. I cannot tell you how many times Devin Harris was pissed off at him, and time after time they would go back to the bench with Harris shaking his head in disgust.

Yi played a huge role in ensuring we got blown out last night.

Twill was the bright spot, and it was great to see him “audition” in front of Lebron.

Looking at the Boxscore, TWill and Brook look pretty good, although brook took a lot of shots. I heard Caper and Carrino say that the Cavs were double and triple teaming Lopez, so he struggled early.

T-Will’s stats is misleading…our future PG had 5 turnovers!

(I love Terrence just making a point… :) )

—His inconsistent offense doesn’t make up for his horrible defense
—He makes too many mistakes
—He’s not physical enough so he gets stripped way too often driving to the hoop or securing rebounds (He’s 7 foot. He and Lopez should be expected to get double-digit rebounds, it’s not that big a deal when he does)

Most of us with reasonable complaints about him aren’t saying he should be waived or whatever. We’re saying he should come off the bench when the team needs some offense. Then he can stay on the court if he’s making shots and return to the bench if he’s not.
Dealing with the pressure to play that way is part of being a pro and what he has to do until he can play some defense.
It’s not hate. It’s intense frustration about a player who does so many frustrating things and is being allowed to stay on the court while another game swirls down the drain.

We know Nets have a bright figure with all their draft picks and cap room. It’s still no excuse for the fans that want WINS NOW!

You can try to explain to them about the rebuilding process. Good luck. Besides, some of the NJ fans are too po’d of the Brooklyn move to see anything positive.

we can use our cap room and multiple assets to trade for stud FAs…
if that doesn’t work, use the 10 draft picks the next 3 years to build the team from young players…
a rich owner would also not hesitate to use exceptions to add complimentary players…
the lure of ny would (hopefully) make the nets look like a better destination for FAs…
we already have brook, harris, lee, cdr, twill, hump and (so as not to anger anti-yi people) a stretch 4 (41% 3pt%) who can come off the bench and let rebounds fall into his lap.

He sucks cuz he can’t play D. Playing D is a constant. It’s rare that you have a good day or bad. Thats why everytime he plays PF he sucks. The only variable is how well he shoots (40% for his career as a 7ft is pathetic) or rebounds (the best part of his game). Make no mistake about it he is the biggest, not the only, THE BIGGEST reason we suck. One of the reasons I love posting Yi sucks is the agenda surrounding him and the biased opinion posters have of him.

Formerly Mr. Big (ND)

cdr can’t play d and he gets pushed around by shooting guards and small forwards alike and he can’t keep his mouth shut even if he aint no star but he gets a pass everytime…

@ Malorkayel

“Also, are you not admitting to your own bias agenda”

Tell me why you think I have a bias agenda.

I agree with Malorkayel’s points above.

It isn’t exactly a secret that Yi has very poor defensive awareness, weak hands, and poor shot selection. But face it, right now he is the best power forward on this Nets team. Neither Humphries nor Boone is going to put up big numbers consistently in the starting up anymore than Yi has.
Say what you want about Yi’s weaknesses, but he is playing better than many other Nets right now. I know its fun to bash on the Chinese guy, but if you’re going to do it, don’t pretend to be unbiased.

I think the people who can’t understand how bad he is are the same people who don’t understand why others bash him. After over 2 1/2 years in the NBA he can’t defend or shoot and I think it’s unrealistic to expect it to change. It’s not like he didn’t have an opportunity. As a matter a fact for the production he delivered he might have had the best opportunity ever. Whats even more amazing is he is the biggest reason the team is setting historic losing records, he still starts and the team still likes him. Forget about he is the best we got. I’d rather play Boone who is the better defender. For those who say Boone has no future with us and Yi does, a real Net fan should puke from that statement. Especially the season ticket holders who paid money to see this team win this year. It’s just spin. You want proof. Why does Hassell start over TWill?

Trade value?? I’d give him away. He doesn’t affect the team cuz plays aren’t run for him?? Are you kidding?? What about his inability to defend?? Who cares where he’s from or what he looks like. The guy sucks. He can’t play basketball. SMH.