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Harris and Hayes Go Down as Nets Lose to Pistons

The Nets' latest losing streak reached six games in Detroit Saturday night, and they may have lost a pair of starters as well. The Pistons hit their first seven three pointers, shot 61 percent in the first half, and led most of the night, but an 11-2 Nets run tied the game early in the fourth quarter. The Nets took a brief lead a few minutes later, but scored just four points over their next 11 possessions and Detroit came away with a seven-point win. To make matters worse, Jarvis Hayes and Devin Harris collided in the final minute while attempting to chase down a loose ball with the game still within reach. Harris suffered a mild sprain of his left shoulder, while Hayes bruised his left shin. Their status for Tuesday's game vs. the Cavs is uncertain. "I don't think it's as bad as it could be," said Harris. Detroit shot 52 percent for the game and was led by rookie Jonas Jerebko, who didn't miss a shot. Harris led the Nets with 21 points--including a trio of three pointers, and seven assists. Brook Lopez added 20 points, and Kris Humphries finished with 14 points and nine boards on his 25th birthday.

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If anyone comes on here to post negative comments about the Nets today, you don’t have a heart.

by KJV on Feb 6, 2010 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

this team is cursed. did anyone see rod thorns reaction? he was cursing like crazy, he was PISSED. guess we cant trade devin now. looks like both of them will be out for a while. back to blowouts again ughhh is the season over yet?

by matt on Feb 6, 2010 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

THIS TEAM SUCKS!!! were gonna lose by +30 to cavs. bye bye harris and hayes

by matt on Feb 6, 2010 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t have a heart, because the Mets and Nets conspired to tear it to ribbons long ago.

by TWilliAM on Feb 6, 2010 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

This is the first time that i really feel like crying after a loss. I mean this has been pretty bad for me: My home land has been destroyed by a 7.0 earthquake, My beloved Nets can’t catch a break, NY Giants did not make the playoffs….Jeeezz

by KJV on Feb 6, 2010 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

i must not have a heart… how can anyone that watches the nets have heart??? we all need to visit the wizard, courtney lee, yi and twill should be the first in line to do so…

i wonder if it’s the lack of smarts or just heart… but this team does not know how to compete…

by sp00n on Feb 6, 2010 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

Any idea if Harris and Hayes are ok?

I missed the game but just saw the box score.
Jerebko kicked our butts. Who was guarding, I mean not guarding him? Do I have to ask?

by Jack Handy on Feb 6, 2010 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

Another close game got away, did you you see the collision b/w Harris and Hayes at the end, it was ugly.

by NJChamp on Feb 6, 2010 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

That’s our season right there. Harris sucks at the end of games I can’t wait to get wall.

by ben on Feb 6, 2010 10:06 PM EST reply actions  

ever heard the term “if you touched the ball you could’ve catched it”?? the nets have touch the ball these last 6 games… but are to stupid to adjust and catch the damn ball… please send yi back 2 where ever he came from

by sp00n on Feb 6, 2010 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

Most depressing sports team of all time.

by Accelerate on Feb 6, 2010 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t know what to say. I guess i will just go to bed…ok…ok…I’m not gonna cry.

by KJV on Feb 6, 2010 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah Thorn was pissed

by NJChamp on Feb 6, 2010 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

This team is Cursed…

I have never seen so much bad things happen to one franchise in my life. Nothing ever seems to go right and the only one to blame is the damn owner for destroying this team piece by piece for his Brooklyn real estate dream.

The curse will end once that damn RAT is no longer the owner.

by Pablo on Feb 6, 2010 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

man the nets really wanted that win that is why we had that collision. losing streak will never end

by matt on Feb 6, 2010 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

Why don’t they put Humphries in the starting 5? He brings an added energy which Yi doesnt.

by NJChamp on Feb 6, 2010 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

They are btoh fine. harris will nurse it for some more sitting time so he can be babied. hayes will sit out 1 game as a precaution. that was not a hard hit as they made it seem. harris saw hayes and braced himself and then fell back for the drama. he acted like someone shot him with a barrett 50.cal sniper rifle. i am so sick of that dude. your pg has to be a warrior if you want your team to be a playoff contender. name me one team that won a ring that didnt have a pg that would run thru a wall….

by superb on Feb 6, 2010 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

bruce ratner should be banned from sports!

by sp00n on Feb 6, 2010 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

I am so pissed right now, I have no words.. I watched this whole game and supported the team, but even we fans can’t help this cursed season! PLEASE JUNE 24TH, COME HERE FAST! TO ATLEAST SHED SOME LIGHT!!

by Dee on Feb 6, 2010 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

sending Yi back to wherever he came from, sounds good to me, and probably Yi, too.

by JohnY on Feb 6, 2010 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

Rest-of-year lineup, now that CDR, Hayes and Harris are out!! ;)

Dooling-PG
Lee-SG
Hassell-SF
Yi-PF
Lopez-C

That lineup is nasty! OH crap! Dooling just blew out his hip!

Quinn-PG
Lee-SG
Hassell-SF
Yi-PF
Lopez-C

4-78 heeeerrrreeee we come!

by Jim on Feb 6, 2010 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

@NI can u post some kind of video or photograph of Thorn going on this rampage everyones talking about i did not see it!! mikhail prokhorov is sending in troops as we speak

by Jim on Feb 6, 2010 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

There goes 40% of our starting lineup.

by NJChamp on Feb 6, 2010 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

THERE IS NO WAY WERE GETTING 9 WINS….this team is embarrasing!!!

by matt on Feb 6, 2010 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

I just feel like crying right about now after watching this.

by Dee on Feb 6, 2010 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

Wow… I really don’t know what to say.

by NET$MAN on Feb 6, 2010 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

Hahahaha, I love this. Man, Devin’s injury made my week. What did I say last week? Oh something about why play Devin if he’s suffering from these various nagging injuries and we’re losing anyway.

by JohnY on Feb 6, 2010 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

for that guy above, they just zoomed in on Thorn and he was like “What the F are u doing!” and he kept yelling towards the court. he was sitting in like the 5th row behind the Nets bench and kept cursing as Harris and Hayes were walked off.

by Dee on Feb 6, 2010 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

AND IF WE DON"T GET JOHN WALL IN THE DRAFT, THEN THAT"LL JUST KILL ME.

by Dee on Feb 6, 2010 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

yi and courtney lee for amare sounds good now…

by sp00n on Feb 6, 2010 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

there is no way ANYTHING GOOD IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO US. ever. we are going to win 6 games over the next 5 seasons combined! we’re going to have a no-name coach next season, no free agents, no decent draft picks, prudential center will endure an F5 tornado this summer and we’ll have to stay at the Zod, then the Zod will explode after some plane taking off from Teterboro crashes into it, then they’re going to move to WInnipeg for 30 years. GOOD NIGHT

by Jim on Feb 6, 2010 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

so much for trading devin lol

by matt on Feb 6, 2010 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

@ Jim
I like you’re optimism.

by NJChamp on Feb 6, 2010 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

Injury updates from the Nets postgame show…

Harris: Mild sprain of his left shoulder.
Hayes: Bruised shin.

by NetsDaily on Feb 6, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The pistons broadcast kept showing shots of Rod in the stands… he looked like jabba the hut, and then it was even more comical when harris and hayes went down… he was basically mouthing “what the ****. You have got to be ****ing kidding me! one thing after anotherblahblahblah” and so on.

On a side note, lets get Brooke a big man coach, he is so lost out there.

by Tim on Feb 6, 2010 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

Del Harris’ evil spirits shall linger with this team forever! The Curse of Del Harris = No playoff appearances for 1000 years!

by Jim on Feb 6, 2010 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

this youth movement crap needs to go… but yi must be let go first… if we can get a pair of shoes for him i’d take it…

by sp00n on Feb 6, 2010 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

@Jim, be careful what you wish for

by JohnY on Feb 6, 2010 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

D3 INTRAMURAL college basketball teams could beat us.

by Jim on Feb 6, 2010 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

@ netsdaily what does that mean how long will they be out?

by matt on Feb 6, 2010 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

matt, the game just ended 1/2 hour ago. Nobody knows how long they’ll be out.

by NetsDaily on Feb 6, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks ND

by Dumpy on Feb 6, 2010 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

I actually honestly believe this team is going to acquire a big-name at the deadline. No New York area team will win 5 or 6 games. None. They’re going to go out and get a very good player once Proky gets here, and we’ll win 15 or 16 games. I truly believe it. My other posts were a little bit of comic relief, although I can’t be sure any of that will happen. The government has all posters on this on Suicide Watch. How about the Nets investing some money in counselors for fans? We could use some help mentally getting through all this. Maybe they could show us a slide show of photoshopped images of Prokhorov shaking hands with John Wall on draft night, another one with Jay-Z, Proky, and LeBron shaking hands in a press conference, and another one with David Lee and Brook Lopez, both in Nets jerseys, boxing out Chris Bosh (Knicks) in game one of the playoffs, seed one versus eight.

by Jim on Feb 6, 2010 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

Buck Up fellow Nets fans!
This summer were gonna add Wall/Lebron/D.Wade
next season our record will be the reverse of this nightmare season.

Maybe I should go to sleep.

Maybe I already did!!!

by mcbubba on Feb 6, 2010 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

won’t happen*

by Jim on Feb 6, 2010 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

The funniest reaction was Humphries after he tried passing the ball to Hayes/Harris and he saw them both down. (I am not laughing at the injuries).

We were down 5 with the ball. It was a still a game when the collision occurred.

The only positive thing I can think of this is that if we get the worst record in history and still dont get the #1 pick the entire universe will go against the league about this rule.
The same way everyone goes after the NFL for their overtime rule.

by ronnie on Feb 6, 2010 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

you see what i mean? that is feminine behavior. all that laying around for a bruised shin and a shoulder? they acted like they were dead!!

when carl landry got his teeth knocked out of his head he kept playing!!

when steve nash was bleeding profusely in the playoffs from a cut he kept trying to get back in the game.

i can go on and on about what a real player acts like on the court.

who remembers jordan getting almost knocked flatout by danny ferry and being dizzy but still recovering to play defense during the cavs bulls playoff series. thats someone that really wants to win.

these players we have are not warriors.

would kmart and kidd have layed down like that???

by superb on Feb 6, 2010 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

@ JohnY

What you said last week was completely wrong. Even if Devin was completely healthy, he still would have hurt himself on that play. Plus, the reason why you play him even though he is a little bit hurt is because we don’t wantto be blown out by 30 points every game, which we could been in all of them without Devin.

by NET$MAN on Feb 6, 2010 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

Superb point, Superb.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing, they could have put a single hand up and knocked the ball away, just with 1 hand! HOWEVER… to the credit of Jarvis and Devin, the comparison you make is for players in serious situations, with championships on the line. By this point, if they want to just lay in pain, I give them the pass.

by Tim on Feb 6, 2010 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

Oh man this team can’t catch a break the battled tonight and fell short once again I really feel bad for the guys they all gave it there all and really TRIED the effort is there the only thing missin is the execution at the end of games. And I’ve said it before and ill say it again we should NOT draft Wall that is NOT the answer. Puttin a 19 year old KID in the driver seat of your team will NOT result in much espically with the like of twill on the team to influence him. We should go for Turner maybe James from Texas or Wesly Johnson those three are older more experienced guys who will lead in ROY voting in their first year remember this post nxt season. Don’t get me wrong Wall is a great talent but he is NOT ready to come into the NBA and make an impact from day 1

by hova34 on Feb 6, 2010 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

I hate Devin Harris
This is not personal this is business!!
With less than 3 minutes left to play in the 4th quarter, Devin harris was laughing and joking with Jason Maxiell after Jason just hit a wide open jumshot.
This is not how a leader, or a captain, or any player should be acting when his team is 4-44!
A few minutes later the camera showed Rod Thorn sitting in the seats shaking his head and picking at his fingernails.
If I was Thorn.. I would have walked into that locker room and suspended DH for 5 games, no pay. Better yet I would send him to the DLeague and make him practice, warm up, and then sit on the bench for 48 minutes.

DH could not get Brook Lopez the ball down low. The only shot Brook took in the 4th Q was a 20 foot jumper. Yes DH made a 3…. whooopeedoooo.

If I was Brook I would punch DH in his face for his sorry play and take control of this team. Brook admits when hes playing bad and you can tell when he isnt happy with himself.
DH on the other hand neever admits when he’s not playing good.
In addition to the joking and bad shots..

DH and stuckey or bynum were chasing after a loose ball. The Pistons player got the ball and DH ran to a spot where no player was standing. The Pistons player drove to the hoop and scored!
Devin Harris is lucky I am in FL because I would spend a couple hundred dollars to sit behind the bench and yell and curse him all night.

by djheavyduty on Feb 6, 2010 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

@ JohnY

Yeah, so you might have been right about Harris being injury prone. What’s more important, being right or people staying healthy?

Athletest are still people and, with the extremely rare exceptions for what they do off the court/field/rink, injuries should not be cheered or make fans happy.

Forget if Harris is good/bad… it is irrelevant… Never be happy with an injury… and Harris seems like a good guy off the court… Maybe CDR isn’t so nuts.

by Paul B on Feb 6, 2010 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

@djheavyduty,

Brook SUCKS. Yes Devin does too, but what, yeah lets get Brook the ball in the post, so the entire offense stops to watch him chuck up a forced prayer!!!

And so what he was smiling? Its a damn game.

by Tim on Feb 6, 2010 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

@ Superb

It’s different when there is no point of winning, but I do see what you are saying.

by NET$MAN on Feb 6, 2010 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

ok Tim you are right……… great analysis… I’ll back it up with stats for you
Brook was 8-12 for 20 points and 5 assists
Thats terrible for a 21 year old center!

by djheavyduty on Feb 6, 2010 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

And what is the positive of playing Harris at 80% healthy just to lose games and injure his other parts. I don’t like Devin or anyone injuring himself. And the 2 games last week that Devin sat out, yes, we were competitive, so your excuse of playing Devin injured to avoid getting blown out makes no sense.

by JohnY on Feb 6, 2010 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

The Nets should warm up to nothing but depressing country music when they return home.

by Jim on Feb 6, 2010 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone who says the Nets aren’t playing hard and trying to win isn’t watching. They are underskilled and poorly coached compared to the rest of the league. But, these guys are busting their guts. Posters who claim that these guys are losing because they are dogging it are wrong. CDR tries to gut it out with a bad back, too.

Also, they make huge mistakes on defensive assignments. That’s not from failing to play hard. It is a problem that results from not having a consistent first team and second team alignments. The lineup for the 4th quarter had probably never been on the court together before.

by Robby on Feb 6, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

JohnY- And who did the Nets play in those two games?

by NET$MAN on Feb 6, 2010 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

Devin will milk this for a month. He doesn’t want to be part of history. I don’t think Brook likes Hump. Yippi Yii Yi, he let Jerenko have a career night.

by Tom F on Feb 6, 2010 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

I find it odd that people are saying “can’t wait to get Wall”, like it’s something that’s definitely happening. Don’t forget it’s only a 25% chance fellas

by Gerard Himself on Feb 6, 2010 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

Net$Man, they played competitive without Devin the following teams:

LAC: 21-28 record (Nets won this game)

WAS: 17-32 record

PHIL: 19-31 record

The Pistons after tonights win are 17-32. Thank you, good night.

by JohnY on Feb 6, 2010 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

Another career night for someone
The worst 3 point team killed us with 3 points
Yi sucks
Lopez and Kris hate each other
Yi Sucks
We are cursed
Kiki Claps
We are going to be the worst team in NBA history

by Randy Oreens on Feb 6, 2010 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

JohnY- It was a rhetorical question because the Nets are obviously going to be competitive against bad teams like that, with or without Devin.

by NET$MAN on Feb 6, 2010 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

Should have traded Devin Harris last week!!!

by Panareal on Feb 6, 2010 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

@djheavyduty I agree with lopez’ stats , they are awesome for a 21 year old center. BUT!His attitude is horrible,he cries on every play,when he thinks he is fouled, when he fouls someone, when he dosen,t get the ball,when someone else makes a bad play. This has to be corrected and soon, or else who wants to play with him.This problem should be the main thing the nets organization addresses.He will be here next year most of the young bums will be gone, he needs to mature mentally.

by FrankC on Feb 6, 2010 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

@Randy
Where did you get this Lopez and Kris hates each other stuff?

by Ely on Feb 6, 2010 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

Devin Harris has always been aware of the need for Nets to have worst record. Harris also doesn’t think much of Kiki’s coaching ability. Harris is always smiling after losses.

However, MN has won 4 in a row and now are 9 games up on Nets.
Getting the worst record is no longer an option.

Something tells me that if Yi was traded and if Proky got a new coach, then suddenly Devin and company would start winning these games.

by jerry25 on Feb 6, 2010 11:45 PM EST reply actions  

I was watching the Detroit coverage. Announcers were respectful of Nets (compared with Celtics announcers). However, did anyone else see footage of Rod Thorn in the crowd, cursing near the end of the game, especially after Devin and Jarvis went down???

I’m no lip reader, but it was obvious Rod was upset – maybe he wanted the refs. to stop play automatically?

by jerry25 on Feb 6, 2010 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

it seems to me like lopez and yi are getting laughed at by their teammates, even during the game… its one thing to joke about maxiel dunking on lopez, but devin and some others were clearly make faces at each other when lopez throws his temper tantrum during timeouts

with that being said lopez is soft as a tissue, he shows way too much emotion on the court in a negative way. his decision making out of the post is TERRIBLE

these players are constantly looking for fouls on the offense end THIS NEEDS TO STOP! even if you are getting fouled your making a reputation as a whiner to the officials

please get a coach and some reputable vets on the bench to shows these underachievers how things are done by PROFESSIONALS!!!

by Mrbenjamins on Feb 6, 2010 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Kiki Stop Clapping Too !!! You look like a damn fool !!!

by Mrbenjamins on Feb 6, 2010 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

@ Jerry25

I did try to read Rod’s lips, and I think I had some success. At one point, he seemed to say to himself “What the **** did we do to deserve this? **** me!”

by Rusty on Feb 7, 2010 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

Another game we could have actually won. Too bad we can’t score with the game on the line. Devin and Hayes out for the next two weeks??? YI looks awful. CDR’s confidence and game are in the crapper. I really thought we could win three or four games over the last week. This was a soft spot in our schedule. The game came down to execution and coaching. Who are the good coaches available right now? What about a package of stuff for Amare’? I ate herring in cream sauce tonight, made me think of Proky…when does he take over?

by Paul Erstein on Feb 7, 2010 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

Kiki career is going to be destroy by Yi. Really Yi belongs in the bench as a 6th man. Hump and hassel should start toughen the lineup.

I don’t know what you can do with Lee.

by Seeker on Feb 7, 2010 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

Mark Jackson should be hired as Coach,Kiki is GM office material only,It is time for a new voice to show and teach these guys what it takes to be a winning team,teaching basic fundamentals,mental control, to stop making careless mistakes,being assertive,He can take Devin,and potentially John Wall under his wing,and light a fire under them to get other players to raise their quality of play to a higher level,than lackluster,bumbling,bricklayers,Also get Lopez to be less clumsy in his shot selections,Yi needs to go,and Lee too,he can’t get over the Orlando trade,and is acting like he doesn’t want to be here, Add Bosh or Amare’with Wall,and we should have enough to be a competitive force,But Thorn will find a way to mess things up,By choosing Kiki as permanent coach,MARK JACKSON NOW!!

by P-Willz on Feb 7, 2010 12:46 AM EST reply actions  

Fire Kiki!!!!!!

Freaking please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hollah!!!

by Shawn Carter on Feb 7, 2010 12:58 AM EST reply actions  

try being as Mets Nets and Giants fan …fml

by NJNETSfan8712 on Feb 7, 2010 1:10 AM EST reply actions  

My lineup:

Thorn – pg
Barrisse- sg
Kiki- pf
Walsh- sf
Yormark- c

Thorn will be breaking ankles, and fooling everybody with his clever look-away passes…

by NiceBull on Feb 7, 2010 1:23 AM EST reply actions  

Nets can’t wait to develope Yi – trade him now.

by Lefty100 on Feb 7, 2010 1:24 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t get the animosity Brook has for Kris. He should be thrilled that someone is actually hustling instead of turning the ball over almost every possession (like Yi). But he was mad at Kris both last night for the tip in and tonight because Hump was out of position. Hump might not be the greatest player but he plays with more intensity and energy than anyone else out there – all he wants to do is play. Of course he hasn’t been through all the trauma and drama all season long. Or perhaps Brook wishes Boone were back on the floor?

And why has Brook’s rebounding dropped off so much lately?

by fastbreak on Feb 7, 2010 2:55 AM EST reply actions  

Man, the first half also showed how little energy the Nets can play with. On so many occasions, a Piston would run down the court and beat three or four Net players who were jogging back. Brook was getting killed on the glass by his defender, definitely one area of his game that can use help. With some more toughness/rebounding, he’d be so good! Jerebko literally ran around his man on a missed free throw and grabbed an easy offensive board. No one runs back hard on D and it kills us in transition. The losses have really demoralized this squad, and the level of hustle out there is just declining. Hard to blame em, sometimes. Imagine playing on a team with 4 wins in 50 games or so. Crazy

by smp369 on Feb 7, 2010 3:26 AM EST reply actions  

Trade Devin Harris for christ sake!

by 732_Franchise on Feb 7, 2010 3:36 AM EST reply actions  

I agree that Harris and Hayes were drama queens on their collision. A sprain and a bruise? You’d think they were shot. I wonder if Thorn was pissed at the refs or the players? When you’re this bad it’s hard to be motivated when your contract is guaranteed. For those who think they should be professional it starts at the top. An owner who cares more about his wallet than about the team, a president who wants to lose and a GM/coach who thinks the historic bust starting at PF was someone to rest his reputation on. You act like a joke then you’re treated like a joke.

by Mr. Big on Feb 7, 2010 6:50 AM EST reply actions  

I got some positives out of the game. Devin and Brook play really well together. As a matter of fact Devin is playing better and harder. There were a number of plays that he set guys up perfectly for wide open shots that they missed. i couldn’t beleive that lay up that Clee missed and then Devin came right back down and hit Yi with a perfect pass under the basket and Yi couldn’t finish. Kiki is horrible but he had the right players in the game at the end with the lineup of Brook, Devin, Humph, Dooling and Hayes. That lineup has the right mix of veterans and smarts. But the bottom line is none of those players are clutch enough to hit the big shots consistently. We don’t have that player. Devin tries to be but he’s not clutch.

As far as Devin and Hayes, I think both have had serious enough injuries where they were both scared. It did remind me of how dramatic VC would act after every injury tho..lol

by supreme on Feb 7, 2010 7:38 AM EST reply actions  

Dont forget Jarvis had suffered from reoccurring Shin splints and for you to then get a knee to the shin it is very painful atleast he said he is not planing on missing any games so there is some sort of mental toughness there. As for Devin a sprained shoulder is serious at the time it was definately scarey for him along with the pain. i Dont expect them to miss much time if anything 1 game but thats it nothing to serious.

by hova34 on Feb 7, 2010 8:12 AM EST reply actions  

@fastbreak

If I was on the team, I would hustle and be the hardest-working player out there. But I would still suck, and would not blame Brook for yelling at me for being out of position.

by PhilNYC on Feb 7, 2010 8:13 AM EST reply actions  

@supreme

You obviously never played the game. It’s not a matter of “clutch”. They miss shots when they are down 20 also. If it were a “clutch” problem, they would have big percentages in garbage time, which they don’t.

Also, have you ever taken a really hard shot like that? You stay down until you think it’s a good idea to get up. Jarvis and Devon staying down to get sympathy???? That’s the mots stupid analysis placed on this board, which is quite an accomplishment.

by Robby on Feb 7, 2010 8:34 AM EST reply actions  

@Robby

I have played the game and the difference between winning and losing is making clutch plays at the end of games. That’s for ANY sport. It’s not always what happens the first 3 quarters or 8 innings but who steps up when it’s money time. The biggest difference between this years team and last is a clutch player by the name of Vince Carter. The Nets have been in the game during the final minutes of the last 6 games. The avg loss was by 5 points. And they have had several opportunities to hit a big shot or make a defensive play at the end of the game to win. They’ve tried hard but have not succeeded. They don’t have a player talented enough to throw the ball to when they NEED a basket thus not having a clutch player..

BTW have YOU ever played sports? Talent wins and the Nets don’t have the talent to win. They are staying close now but need a dependable option at the end of games. Ever heard of “crunch time”?

by supreme on Feb 7, 2010 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

Brook is a keeper. He is showing lots of potential and he has ZERO talent around him and ZERO coaching. Yi is awful and needs to go. he had his three or four very good games (just like last year) to give false hope.

Nobody gives up a a young 7 footer that has potential. Milwaukee did. Just like Darko, lots of potential but a big ZERO on the court.

The team tries but there is no leadership in the locker room. Kiki is clueless. All of the verterans are waiting to get their ticket punched so they have nothing invested. This is the absolute worst. I havae been a Rod supporter but at this point I don’t care if he goes when the new ownership comes in.

I hope next time someone like Ratner wants to buy a team for the obvious purpose other than basketball, that David Stern asks some tough questions.

by OPutney on Feb 7, 2010 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

@ supreme

Played sports for 40 years. Made shots, missed shots, hit HR’s, struck out. Always found the “clutch” idea silly. The thousands of players I competed against never showed a great variation from 1st quarter to last; from 1st inning to 9th. Vince is/was a great player. Yet, many on this board claim he was a “choker” because of some poor playoff games. You claim he is “clutch” because, I assume, he made many big plays/shots. The truth is that Vince was Vince who made good plays and bad plays in all situations.

by Robby on Feb 7, 2010 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

“crunch time” was invented by announcers. “Crunch time” could be in the 4th minute of the game when it is 10-0 and you “Must” get a basket to turn things around.

by Robby on Feb 7, 2010 10:07 AM EST reply actions  

@Robby

I think Bird, Magic, MJ, Kobe or even Reggie Miller would beg to differ with you. A-Rod found out first hand the difference between being a numbers compiler and getting the big hits when needed. A lot of NBA players have put up big numbers. But when the game is close someone has to want to take amd make the game winning plays. You may think those plays are made in the first quarter but I think most would agree it’s easier to make a shot in the first qtr when you’ll have another 15 attempts than it is when you have 10 seconds left and you’ll never get another shot. That’s just common sense to me. I’m a sports junkie and the guys that produce when no pressure is on are a dime a dozen.

Ask the SD Chargers kicker Nate Kaeding about pressure and being clutch after he missed those 3 kicks against the Jets.

The Nets don’t have a clutch player!

by supreme on Feb 7, 2010 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

damn it!
trade yi.
trade harris.
trade lee.
trade lopez.
…..
eveyone must be trade.
kiki has to trade.
nets fans have to trade too.
thats all. over.

by kent on Feb 7, 2010 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

@ supreme

I disagree with your point. It is NOT easier to make a shot in the first period. Nobody makes a shot because they are thinking that they have 15 more opportunities. That is ludicrous. What shooter thinks that way??? Who can you quote as saying "I had an easier time making baskets in the first period because I knew I would get more shots later? You say you were a player. Is that what went through your mind when you were playing? Did you shoot differently in the first period and the last? WHY?

I guess Bird, Reggie, MJ and the rest were subpar performers in the first quarter. I guess they didn’t want to take shots when the game was not “on the line.”

A streak of makes and misses can come at any point in the game. To jump to the conclusion that it was “crunch time” that caused the streak is not supportable. Maybe we can get Larry Bird in here to clear this up. Maybe A-Rod will say “yes, I missed that 100 mph fastball in the 9th because I was nervous.”

by robby on Feb 7, 2010 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

The last two weeks, we are finally playing good ball. We just can’t get over the hump because we have no star players right now and it shows when we can’t close out games. BUT, we are headed in the right direction! Keep up the hustle and we can get a couple of wins. THE GOAL IS 10 WINS!

by JustinNJ on Feb 7, 2010 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

1. Good trade(s) before deadline, 2. Proky taking over and quickly getting the right coach and 3. good health from key players will get us over the hump in all these games.

by jerry25 on Feb 7, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

By the way, Yi is becoming a liability on the floor. I would almost suggest keeping a big man rotation of Brook, Humph, and Boone instead. Boone won’t score in bunches,but, he plays with better intangables such as rebounding and defense. Plus, it isn’t like Yi has been scoring much of late anyway.

by JustinNJ on Feb 7, 2010 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

Yi needs to be benched. He’s just god awful. There is no reason why Josh Boone is wearing a suit with that bum playing like this. This is why the team’s morale and chemistry has gone into the toilet, you have other players being benched and racking up DNP’s while one player is given special treatment. I don’t blame any player on this team if they want to be traded or released, this is a sham of an organization.

I don’t know why lopez is getting mad at The Hump, Kris actually hustles and rebounds the ball. Lopez looked soft last night when Maxiel threw the hammer down on him. I was disgusted. The Hump will clean a dude’s clock out there. Lopez needs to take notes.

This team has zero chemistry, and they probably all can’t wait to get away from each other.

If Harris milks this injury, good for him. We might actually win a game this month if he does.

by Mr Dollar Bills on Feb 7, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

@Robby

You’ve NEVER heard of a player choking? lol. Watch sports much? lol

by supreme on Feb 7, 2010 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

i hope devin can make it throw the injury so we can win a buzzer beeter win. because they suck right now actually the whole season. HELP WANTED!!!!

by mr.not cool on Feb 7, 2010 4:48 PM EST reply actions  

brook is always mad at hump bec hump is a better rebounder and it’s messing up lopez’s rebounding stats…

by jirohkanzaki on Feb 7, 2010 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

@Robby,

Google clutch NBA paleyrs and I’m sorry to tell you but there’s a ton of info on it. Here’s a Magic quote about Robert Horry. Note Sean Elliot’s comment.

“Magic Johnson recently anointed Horry one of the top 15 clutch playoff performers of all time. Horry waves off the accolade, just as he did the comparison to Pippen years ago, but Magic is not alone. “There’s only a handful of guys who really want to take that big shot,” says the Spurs’ Elliott. “He’s one of them.”

by supreme on Feb 7, 2010 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

brook maybe a crybaby, yi and lee inconsistent, twill and cdr immature and hump’s shot selection horrendous but as long as they’re the nets i will still believe in them and hope they develop into a cohesive unit in the future.

brook = the nets’ 19pts/9reb/3ast/2 blk-future all star center
yi = the nets’ stretch 4 (40% from 3)
lee = raja bell v.2
cdr = instant offense off the bench
twill = the nets’ all-around all-everything glue guy
hump = game-changing instant energy off the bench (will hang 15pts/10reb on an opponent if they sleep on him)

by jirohkanzaki on Feb 7, 2010 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

@ supreme

Guess the saints won today because the Colt’s QB cannot handle crunchtime. Manning must not be a clutch player because he failed in the 4th quarter. Right. Good theory.

Horry’s response shows that he understands they are just jump shots whenever you take them. Horry could flat out shoot the ball, which did not change at the buzzer. But, he was not a better shooter at the buzzer than he was at the tipoff.

by robby on Feb 8, 2010 1:09 AM EST reply actions  

@Robby,

OK we’ll just have to agree to disagree. Horry is a perfect example of a guy who may not so anything the entire game until it’s crunch time. If you don’t see that then I can’t convince you. I still say the Nets need a clutch player and that’s my opinion. BTW, we already no Peyton is clutch because of his history but Porter made a clutch interception…lol

by supreme on Feb 8, 2010 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

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