With Amar'e Deal All But Dead, Are Nets and Grizz Talking CDR?

please trade cdr so he can go play actual NBA level basketball on an acutal NBA team. This “team” is a joke and its a shame they are throwing certain young players under the bus. Just tell the kid to stop twittering and shut up. How hard is that?

I dont think cdr is the reason this team has only won 4 games.

They tried selling me another package yesterday and thru in a free game. I told them no i rather watch on tv that way i can just shut it off and save my gas money and tolls. This abomination of a franchise will not get anymore of my money until major changes are made. I want Yi, kiki and devin gone.

Of course CDR is not a foundation player, anyone can see that with his recent play. CDR is always twittering about how he’s in the gym at 5am and training late…well buddy it doesn’t show anywhere in your game. CDR apparently didn’t learn from Gilbert Arenas…stop bitching on twitter and think no one will read it.

Forget Stoudemire…forget everyone……no FA or other significant player will ever come to the Nets! guaranteed!

Damn we need Amar’e

I consider Kerber more reliable than Garcia. Kerber said that most of this Amare to the Nets talk was pure speculation, cause the Nets are VERY reluctant to lose the assets they’ve worked so hard to get.

As for CD-R, I’m getting sick of all this nonsense we’re hearing. You don’t give up on a young, talented kid like him this early. He’s immature and hasn’t handled this situation well, there’s no veteran guidance in place, so what did you expect? He’s talented. He was averaging 17ppg before that clown Kiki took over. Kid didn’t managed well losing touches, but he just needs time to adjust to his new role. He played like the CDR we all love again against the Raps. He just needs to be aggressive, no matter what his role is, and he’ll be a solid, valuable piece for us coming off the bench for years to come.

We need to try and get someone at the trade deadline to give us fans some hope of a better future. This has been a miserable season thus far.

Also, trade CDR to the Memphis Grizzlies for one of their late first round picks (Denver Nuggets 1st rounder). The deal works well for both teams.

Let’s go Nets!!!

How would trading CDR for the Nuggets pick (which will be #27-8) work well for the Nets?

Trading CDR for a late 1st rounder would be an absolute joke. I’d be done with these morons who run our frontoffice if they did something like that.

Yeah trade CDR! Give him a real coach to play for.
Give up on a “All American”
This kid won more games in college than anyone on this team.
KiKi isn’t a real coach, he’s a GM. So he knows best…..
Like trading for Yi and BS… Great move!
KiKi can’t control this locker room.
He can only threaten to trade a player or send him to the DLeague.
I’m sure KiKi would never send Yi to the DLeague.
Yi has 18 assists this year!
Yinka Dare anyone?

That speculation is pretty interesting. CD-R (and his family) wants him to go to another team, so maybe he’d be happier there, even if he will continue to come off the bench. This should be the happiest time of his life—he’s realised his dream of playing in the NBA—and it is sad that it has turned into a such a negative hate-fest with the fans. I think CD-R could be a good bench player for this team for years, but you’ve got to trade him if it is beneficial to the team, especially when it looks like he won’t resign with the Nets once his contract is up.

Dealing CDR for one of the very late first round picks held by Memphis is pretty intriguing. They have Denver’s and the Laker’s picks. Memphis doesn’t have to give a player back because they are under the cap and only have 14 players on the roster. Then the Nets would have three picks in the 20s: Dallas’, Denver/Lakers, and their own second rounder, which I’ll count because it is #31. Not bad for rebuilding. You could probably combine two of those picks to move up, especially if Dallas ends up in the low 20s.

I’m sure the Nets are angling for Memphis’ own pick, which is currently around #19 or #20, but they could easily falter and miss the playoffs.

I think trading CDR—the #40 pick a year and a half ago—for a pick in the 20s is a pretty good deal. You can then use his roster spot (and salary) to pick someone up from the D League like Almond for an extended tryout. Anyone else?

We don’t need more picks, let alone mediocre ones. We have enough picks. You don’t give young talent away like that.

I cannot imagine the Grizzlies giving up a first round pick for CDR. He was a second round pick and the Nets are trying to get rid of him. A swap of the Mavs pick for one of the Grizz picks? Maybe.

FYI, you could if you were the Nets made simultaneous trades with the Grizz. Although CDR makes $736,420, the Nets also have a $1.374 million trade exception. So the Nets could trade CDR for a pick or a swap of picks or cash and then trade the TE for a player on the Grizz roster who makes less than $1.47 million this year…you can add $100K to a TE, I believe. (The Nets used TE’s to complete the Quinn and Humphries deals.)

Players on the Grizz roster who you could acquire either in a straight up deal or a simultaneous deal involving the TE include: Darrell Arthur, Demarre Carroll, Sam Young, Marcus Williams (!), Jamaal Tinsley (!!) and Lester Hudson. You could also throw Josh Boone into the mix and expand the deal.

A swap of the Mavs pick for the Grizz pick? Giving up CDR to move up probably 5 or so slots in the draft order but still be around pick 20? That would be a very bad deal for the Nets. Just because CDR was a 2nd rounder does not mean he is worth the same as the average second rounder. He has shown talent and scoring ability. His head is not in the game right now but it would be rash to trade him away for peanuts. Wait until next year when hopefully we will have a real team and a real coach. Judge players on how they play next season. This season is such a mess and any young player would look worse than they really are.

@Chris2

I absolutely agree with you, well put.

Mistake. CDR may not be starting quality on a really good team, but he’s a perfect bench player. He’s also a guy that can be counted on to start if someone goes down. He’s also shown he can hit shots in crunch time (ref. the W in Chi). Out current SG disappears in crunch time and appears not to want the ball when the games on the line.

The Mavs pick may end up BETTER than the Grizzlies pick! I don’t know; I think CD-R for a non-lottery pick is pretty fair. NI, I don’t think that you’d blink over a Courtney Lee-for-a-pick offer, and I see Lee and CDR as roughly comparable.

Maybe you get the Memphis pick with lottery protection, and if they end up in the lottery you instead get the better of the Denver/Lakers pick instead? Or maybe you do CDR plus the Nets’ second rounder for the Memphis and Denver picks?

I don’t like CDR incessant twittering, but if we had an elite player on the team (LBJ, Wade) none of that would have happened. He would fall into line immediately. He wasn’t this much of a problem last year, was he?

Trading CDR for a pick (I don’t care if it’s Grizz own one, or La’s or Nuggets’) it’s stupid. We have enough picks. If you develop you youngster then trade them for a pick (which won’t be that great anyway), you would be setting the team down.

You don’t need to lose a talented young player like CDR when you already have 2 1st rounders and the very 1st pick in the 2nd rd( which is almost as valuable as LA or Denver’s 1st rounders).

Enough with this nonsense.

Trade him. Please.

This is absolutely ridiculous. CDR is a high energy player who wants to win. He’s exactly the type of player the Nets should want to have. He’s young, cheap, has infinite potential, and doesn’t tolerate losing. Sure he’s immature and the twittering can be annoying, but he’s a kid and he has a passion for the game. Don’t give up on him so soon, he has the potential to be great.

What irritates me the most, however, is that there has been no mention of what we would get back in return for CDR. If a good player became available and we needed to throw CDR in to make it work – fine. But to trade him for the sake of trading him – this addition by subtraction theory – is just plain nuts. This is just like when the Nets were trading RJ, Vince, and even Marcus Williams. They traded just to get rid of the player and did not really put into consideration what they were getting back.

“Douglas-Roberts was averaging 17.2 points when Lawrence Frank was fired on Nov.30”

Remember that was when we played slow ball too.

Kiki has ruined CDR to spotlight his protege Yi. I think it is a mistake of Isiah Thomas proportions.

All Cris Carter did was catch touchdowns, Buddy Ryan said. So he traded him and Carter went to the HoF. All CDR does is get to the rim and finish.

I guess CDR has rubbed to many people in Netsland the wrong way. If the Nets can get anything decent for CDR they will move him. People forget that CDR had problems last year with Nets coaches. When Del Harris, left one of the reasons mentioned was CDR + T-Will. That was not leaked by accident.

Good Luck… CDR… We hardly knew ya…

CDR is a nice young complimentary player who should come off the bench on a contending team.. Let’s face it there’s a reason why this team is 4 and 400 loses because they don’t have NBA ready players… Lee is the worst shooting guard in the NBA.. Harris couldn’t shoot, pass, or defend if his life was on the line and Brook Goofpez is slow, can’t defend, weak, soft, and his post moves are just bush league at best… There are no young talent on the Nets.. They are all D league material…

Maybe they are making an example out of CDR to somehow teach T-Will a lesson. Maybe they feel sorry for CDR and are trying their best to move him somewhere that will make him happy. Maybe, they hate him with a passion.

And maybe they are just trying to improve the team.

I think it’s all of the above.

The immaturity in the locker room thing was probably some bull the FO made up, so they could get further justification for trading him. I’d think it’d be great for CDR’s career if he would get traded to Memphis though, he’s obvisouly not getting anywhere here. Don’t know how it would work out for NJ though.

@Dumpy Oh give me a break the guys getting paid a few hundred grand to play basketball if he doesn’t like it I’ll be happy to take the job. Most players start with losing franchises or the ones that get a lot of playing time at first anyways, CDR should be more professional losing games isn’t the be all and end all of life. He should have been happy getting more playing time then last year. It a his second year and he didn’t play much his first he shouldn’t have been getting obsessed with wins. At that I appreciate his passion and really don’t care if he acts out. He’s young and theres no veteran to make him better. Aside from that this situation is a lot worse than normal ones. Who cares if he acts out this season, its takend anyway. Get some leadership and decent coach next year and he’ll be fine. But he is going to be a pretty good player don’t throw him away because you put him in this situation and coudln’t handle him.

I liked how CDR started the season and how he worked on his game to get better. But he has rubbed me the wrong way with all of his twittering. Some of it may be Kiki’s fault, but even last year he said he didn’t take his job seriously but still thought he should have been playing more. Right now he doesn’t seem mentaly strong. I’d trade him for Sam Young or Darrell Arthur.

at Kfranchise:

“This is absolutely ridiculous. CDR is a high energy player who wants to win. He’s exactly the type of player the Nets should want to have.”

I tend to agree with you. I’m not convinced CDR will ever be a legitimate NBA starter but he seems like a keeper for the bench – and unlike most of the complete losers on this team he actually competes and expects to win when he takes the floor (much like Richard Jefferson did for us all those years).

This team and its management especially is an utter joke at this point. Anyone with any upside is deemed uncoachable (because we haven’t had a real NBA coach since Byron was fired). It is truly pathetic.

Trading CDR for nothing (late 1st round pick) is absolutely moronic, considering all the garbage Thorn/Kiki picked in the mid 1st round. Once you get past the 15th pick, you have a low chance of getting a decent NBA player. CDR is a legit NBAer. The fact that the Griz is actually interested in CDR should tell you something about his value. No one’s knocking on Thorn’s door asking for _______.

Unless we can swing a deal in which we would get Rudy Gay and then have him to sign at the end of the season, I say keep CDR.

Why are we as fans always so eager to trade away talent? I’m going to make a post about this on the forum next week. It’s ridiculous.

i’ll take sam young, Darrell Arthur, or bring back marcus williams.

The Grizzle fans love CDR down in Memphis. Trade him know before his value falls any further. He fits well with Memphis’s need for bench scoring, and he’s a local favorite. They might give us something nice in return.

It’s just about the end of the road for CDR in NJ.

These things happen. “Que Sera Sera, what will be will be”.

CDR acts like a child,Terrence Williams is much better than CDR.

I LOLed when I read that CDR is aggressive on defense.

How about DeMarre instead of Amar’e?

great idea in trading picks. because u never know if memphis for some reason misses the playoffs. then we’ll have 2 lottery picks. and mayb bring in 2 wildcats. in wall and cousins.

Big Tom,

Agreed. I fint it baffling that people here talk about trading CDR for MWill (?), Arthur, Young or a late first rounder?

Sometimes I think we have what we deserve.

This is how I see it- this year for the nets is all about rebuilding. We all know that the only people that are 100% secure on this roster are brook, humphries, and quinn since they just got them and I doubt they’ll move them or release them until the offseason. C-lee has potential and I do hope they keep him. I say we trade yi and simmons for a versatile multi-position scorer to give us another option besides lopez say….al harrington? The knicks did they say they would trade them if they could find a deal and simmons has an expiring contract. Then use our cap room money to pursue a 3-pt threat to open up our offense say…..(fill in the blank too many to name). Next year I see us winning 30 games, then 40 games, then 45 then championship!!

This isn’t a salary dump. If you trade CDR we have to get equal talent in return. I don’t see it happening. Thorn has to accept the consequences of putting a terrible team on the court by design. The players who are most competitive are the ones who will vent the most. I for one couldn’t care less about his twittering. If we get a pick in return who’s to say the player will pan out. The odds are he won’t. I believe CDR is not part of the problem and will be part of the solution. The FO has to take some responsibility for what they are developing.

cdr and dallas 1st round pick for memphis 1st round pick.

Maybe we can get Marcus Williams back!!!

I starting to think that next year are bench will have several European players on it. Probably will speak Russian.

Maybe Proky and his “people” have told Nets management to get rid of CDR.

Our rebuilding process might take another 2 years.

Just in time for Brooklyn debut…

@ Isaac

Thanks and I totally agree. He may never be a great starter but he has tons of potential and he is a high energy guy teams would love to have come off the bench.

@ Frank

I agree 100%. Rudy Gay was exactly who I was thinking. If the Nets trade CDR and can get RG, that’s fine because they’re getting something good back. But trading for a pick is moronic.

Hamed “The Body” Hadaddi and Demarre Carroll for CDR & Josh Boone would do it for me.

If Proky is spending hundreds of millions already on the Nets, you would have to think he is fully aware of what is going on in Netsland. He might even be directing the moves we have been seeing. I.E. Del Harris, Humphries trade, Quinn/draft pick trade, CDR’s departure, etc.

I know if I was pumping “big” money into this organization, I would want to know what is going on and why.

Proky responded to a reporters questioning why he would be purchasing such a mess, several months ago, by replying something like “don’t you think I know what I’m doing and getting into”

We might already be in the Proky era.

Let the fun begin…

trading CDR who makes less than $1 million is an absolute joke…i hope these rumors are false.

I don’t understand why nets fans care about anybody twittering smh, just don’t follow him then geez. Anyway like some of you said we have no coach and no veteran presence that cares because they can all be gone tommarow. The whole situation is a mess, you want to hate someone hate management 4 putting this mess together and not properly evaluating certain players we have had and aquired.

When Del Harris departed, one of the reasons given is that he found out he was not on the “short list” of coaching candidates. If this is true, why would the Nets be hiring a coach without Proky’s involvement. Makes no sense. Which leads me to believe Proky is involved right now.

“I LOVE my Memphis people!!!” -CDR; Twitter

The way this season has been run, there’s no way to tell CDR’s true value. Before Yi, after Yi, the Twitter controversy that wasn’t (just don’t follow him if it offends you, call me crazy…)… There’s no reason to hastily trade the guy. Wait it out, he’s young and his contract is reasonable. He should only be used in a bigger trade coupled with an expiring contract. Trading him for a pick in the 20’s just for the sake of making a trade is ridiculous. And to those of you even uttering Marcus Williams’ name… Where can I score whatever it is you’re smoking??

That’s it I’m done with this team for the rest of the season. Thorn is loosing his mind kiki is a moron and this whole franchise is going down the drain. Things just keep getting worse and worse. I don’t understand why some of you want him to go. No free agent will be coming here so get used why should they. Rod, kiki should be gone. I’m done see y’all later.

Don’t do it! A late first round pick would not be enough.

CDR is way better than a late first rounder even two. Guy cannot shoot 3s but he can work on it and and his shot has already improved inside the arc. I think right now he lost the desire to compete after so many people blaming him for his outbursts. I guess it is Ok to loose and not get mad.

Now we’ve a “Chris Unit” in place so let’s see what they can do. Keep CDR.

The Nets can and probably will sign some free agents in July.

Their names might not be LeBron, Bosh, Wade or Amare, but at least 26 other teams won’t be signing these players either.

This season was a great way to test our players character. We have found out who’s a keeper and who’s not. Why waste years on players like Sean Williams just to find out what you sensed all along.

If you can’t build a winning team without having LeBron or Bosh or both, then you should get in another line of business.

We will have all the assets available to build a winning team, and if Thorn or whoever is G.M. can’t get it done, there will be no excuses.

I’m starting to get excited about the next few months.

Lets go Nets…

Let’s trade harris, CDR , Simmons, Mavs pick.

Get back Gay and rights to rubio. lol.

All of these things are funny to me. I think this team is just a disaster and the only thing that would make everyone feel better is to hire a coach, make one great deadline deal and then let the lottery dust settle.

they only player in the future of this team is lopez. maybe harris if we trade the other garbage for stars

As a season ticket holder they ask us what is important in keeping our plans. they should send us a check list of good players we want and a check list of crap we can get rid of. i think this team would be better off if we decided things.

The above article confuses me. At week ago there were reports, Vecsy in particular, that said the Nets did not want Amare. His knees scared them, he wanted a max contract and his “best days” were behind him. Now this article makes it sound that the Nets really wanted him. If the Nets really wanted him they would of gotten him.

CDR is the only player with heart on this team. Trading him will be good for him but not for the team.

It’s funny how everyone is quick to jump at him and Yi, but Lee has been the biggest let down on this team thus far.

My favorite player on the Nets right now is Brook Lopez.

But if Lopez was traded tomorrow for a can of tomatoes, I would be upset and disappointed, but I still would be a Nets fan.

Once a Nets fan, always a Nets fan… Sad fact but true…

ok i hate cdr’s constant empty talking but he is a cheap asset ($700K/yr) to have on the bench who can provide scoring. i wouldn’t trade him for the junk memphis has even for their late 1st rder bec cdr is a late 1st rd talent being paid a 2nd rder’s salary.

How come all the CDR supporters, and he has many, bring up his ability and cheap contract as reasons for keeping him.

The Nets are not getting rid of him because of these factors.

They are sending him packing for other reasons. Namely, they don’t like or want him on their team, period.

i was a cdr supporter but not now really…however, it is true he can score and has a cheap contract and you can also never be sure the player coming in for him won’t have the same attitude…better a good player than a bad player if they’re both immature.

It’s like being dumped by a girl who does not like you anymore. You respond that, “hey,I have money, and look great, my friends love me and I’m kind to animals, and you will regret this”, but the fact of the matter is, she don’t care.

The only untouchable player is Brook Lopez. Every other player on the Nets should be available for trade. They need to scrap this and start all over.

LTR CDR

HOLLAH!

@Dumpy
I would NOT do Courtney Lee for a pick. Nor do I see CDR and Lee as roughly comparable…for a lot of reasons.

I imagine the Grizzlies would resist giving up either of their excess first round picks, #27 (Nuggets) or #29 (Lakers) because they could become valuable on Draft Night. Each of those could fetch $3 million and you can use them to move up in certain situations. Yes, the Nets could too, but this is a weak draft…not deep…and committing three years to TWO guys who in a normal draft would be second rounders might not be smart.

As for trading for value, you can criticize Thorn in a lot of areas, but he has an uncanny ability to know when a player has peaked. Virtually every player he has traded, dumped or bought out has declined. They may have gone to better teams and succeeded like Kidd or they may not have yielded equal return value like RJ, but their individual performance has rarely matched that of their Nets years. The one big exception: Stevie Jackson.

This needs to be updated and revised, but it’s pretty much still true…

http://www.netsdaily.com/blog/?p=585

“JayMS Says:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:14 am
CDR is the only player with heart on this team. Trading him will be good for him but not for the team.

It’s funny how everyone is quick to jump at him and Yi, but Lee has been the biggest let down on this team thus far."
^Amen!

CDR>>>>>>>>>>>Lee.

IF the nets trade him then they are clueless!

If Terrence Williams changed after a talk with Rod maybe cdr needs one too

at Net Income:

You finally admit the RJ for Yi trade did not “yield equal value”? A minor miracle has just occurred!!!

As for Thorn’s trading ability – it peaked with the Kidd for Marbury (one of the best in league history) deal. Getting RJ and Collins for Eddie Griffin was amazing too but could have been exponentially better had he selected Arenas over Brandon Armstrong to complete it – this relates more to his drafting issues though.

The three most recent major trades have been abysmal – and granted that has a lot to dow ith Ratner’s plan to run aink this team deep into the sewer.

Essentially getting Devin Harris, Yi Jianlian and Courtney lee for Kidd, Vince Carter and RJ is absolutely atrocious. The draft picks and bit players involved in these deals have amounted to nothing so it basically comes down to that.

Yes! This is the best news I’ve heard from this management…Trade CDR so he can go on and have a very successful career..Way 2 be rewarded with bustin your tail and getting much better in the offseason…Benched for j.hayes who’s neva been a starter…give jarvis 3more games, his body will need a break…Good luck to CDR’s bright future away from this miserable mess called a “team”

I personally think Yi and CDR should be the final pieces moved before the draft. I would love to package them both together and send them to Sacramento for Jason Thompson and Sergio Rodriguez, or Boston for Glen Davis and JR Giddens, but happen it ain’t gonna.

I guess I just wish Memphis had a better asset than Darrell Arthur.

For a team that does not know what they are doing, and I don’t believe this to be true, Nets management has done their job very well. Stockpiled draft picks, created tons of cap space, have put together a young team with talented players,
yes, C.Lee, Yi, and T-Will plus Humphries have talent and soon will be playing in Brooklyn NY. Sure we have lost a ton of games but that was the price we had to pay for our future success.

I’m fed up with Nets mgmt and those handfuls of moronic homers. Don’t get me wrong, most Nets fans have good sense. CDR deserves better than rotting away on this team. I’m sad to see him go, but happy for him to continue his growth on a competitive team and in a city he loves (and who love him back). Good luck and torch the Nets every chance you get!

i would do yi for jason thompson in a heartbeat

CDR is immature. The trade I would try to make:

CDR for the Nets option to either take Memphis’ and pick and give up the Dallas pick OR take Denver’s pick. Memphis would probably want the pick to be lottery protected.

So let’s say Memphis is the 7th or 8th seed and have the 15th pick… the Nets could take 15 and give up Dallas (let’s say 24th) or keep 24th and receive Denver (26th or so). moving up to from 15th to 24th would probably be worth it if someone they love falls.

Take Yi too! Please. Yi and CDR for their pick.

CDR was a waste of a pick, I am sure if we didnt draft him at 40 he would of gone undrafted. I think CDR is finally relizing why he was picked so late. Because of his lazyness and acting like a 4 year old.

I don’t find Net Income’s list of players who declined after being traded (or released) by Thorn to be that convincing. They declined after Thorn got rid of them mostly because they were relatively old. Basketball players peak at about age 26 or 27. Anybody who they trade who is that age or older – virtually everybody on that list – is more than likely to get worse after the trade, simply because they are getting older.

When Thorn trades young players – Stephen Jackson, Ryan Anderson – they have a tendency to get better. Because young players often get better.

In any case, I likely wouldn’t trade CDR for a draft pick – you already know what you are getting with CDR (a decent NBA player) while a draft pick late in the 1st round has a good chance to be a bust. On the other hand, CDR will be a free agent (unrestricted) after next year, so he could walk for free. He may be at the height of his trade value at the moment.

Sean Williams has done worse yet they kept him for 3 years? But CDR, a much more talented bbal player gets thrown under the bus? Fire KIKI and give Yi away and keep CDR. Bunch of dummies if they let him go for petty reasons.

The CDR and dallas pick for memphis pick is good.

If we can scrape away gay that would be fantastic. memphis doesnt want to give him a big deal so we can give them good young talent and a first rounder so we can start to rebuild.

Immediately after this trade we send harris and yi to the lakers for bynum.

I just like to spit ball random thoughts. any reactions?

When thorn, kiki and yormark address the ticket holders i will be in the front row asking questions

@Isaac
I have never suggested Yi was equal value for RJ…not at the time of the trade. But I would suggest that right now, it’s damn close considering the disappointing year RJ is having (12.3 and 3.7) while being paid $14.2 million. He is also 30 years old. Next year RJ will be paid $15.2 million. He has been traded twice in the past two years, the first time in a modified salary dump, the second in a total salary dump. He will be traded again in another salary dump before next season because, to be quite frank, he will be an expiring contract, nothing more. He has disappointed since he was traded, hasn’t he? Hopefully, the Nets will get something for Simmons at the deadline.

@Net Income interesting that the Nets are loosely printing in the media how they’ll “keep trying 2 move CDR”…cmon its NOT that hard, there are takers waiting with arms open..so, how SOON b4 they reach a deal?

CDR threw himself under the bus. Defending this second rate talent, who thinks the world of himself and seems to alienate management and other teammates by the hour, needs to grow up and quick. As for CDR supporters, they all seem to need a replacement to rally around, since Sean Williams is no longer here.

Nets management and players stink but CDR is golden. LMAO

I will really be disappointeed if CDR is still with this team come FEB.19th.

Have a nice day…

“Net Income says:
February 5th, 2010 at 11:41 am
@Dumpy
I would NOT do Courtney Lee for a pick. Nor do I see CDR and Lee as roughly comparable…for a lot of reasons.”

reasons such as…?

CDR and Dal 1st for Thabeet. Let’s see how bad they want em. =p

@Mike I’m sure u wouldn’t be the only person disappointed….MANY ppl would be

at Net Income:

Disappointing is relative isn’t it?
Last season, RJ was pretty damn good for the Bucks – averaging just under 20 pts a game –
while playing all 82 games for a team that fell short of the playoffs in large part because Michael Redd and Andrew Bogut played 33 and 36 games respectively.

Yi meanwhile managed to suit up for just 19 hames last year – 63 less than RJ and laregly stunk up the joint when he did. His defense (or lackthereof)from day one has been pitiful.

This season, RJ is the FOURTH option on the battle tested Spurs and rightfully so. On the Nets he would be the SECOND option (at worst) and instead of getting about 12 pts a game, would likely be back up around 17 or 18 a night. he is a proven scorer in this league and he competes – unlike Yi, who is soft and plays like he could care less the majority of the time.

This team was a total disgrace. An attempt to market the team overseas and to try and appeal to the large Asian communities in Brooklyn and Queens, should the team ever move to Brooklyn.

The team sold out one of its oly true stars in NBA frnachise history – a guy that WANTED to be in New Jersey and took rpide in wearing the uniform. And yes I know he was disappointed in the number of fans at the games from time to time (you have mentioned that repeatedly) but by and large he was proud to be a Net and gave us results. This was a sham of a trade.

only way nets can catch wins lol. and its a joke.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ykqkluj

@NI

Thanks for jumping into this discussion! Love to see someone not afraid to paint a target on themselves.

of course rj is better than yi…it is moronic to think otherwise…the question is, is rj worth $15M to a franchise who wants to rebuild? A DEFINITE NO!

also, rj stopped playing defense the year before he was traded…he may score 20 but he let the opponent score as well…and since he can’t do much else, he just became a tradeable asset with value…because vc can score as much and do it better than rj.

“CDR and Dal 1st for Thabeet.”

I would love to get Thabeet but, let’s face it, there is no way Memphis is going to admit to screwing up the #2 pick by trading him so soon. (Plus this doesn’t work under the cap.)

I would not trade Yi for RJ straight up. I don’t think any GM wanting to keep his job would either. RJ is overpaid, and on the down side of his career. Yi has his problems but is still a valuable asset, and comes much cheaper.

Have patience, our team will look much different in a few months time.

Yours truly, “Moronic Homer”….

if cdr can’t compete for a spot on the worst team in nba history, how can he compete for a spot someplace else?

Get rid of CDR now. He will be lucky to be in the NBA in 2 years.

He is tanking, and he just doesn’t want to play real basketball, and that’s why he only took 1 or 3 shots a night, that’d pretty ridiculous.

@jirohkanzaki don’t be foolish..CDR has proven himself b4 the Yiki love affair…other teams are incompetent like the nj nyets. CDR will be a valued member of another team verrry SOON…

Maybe CDR gets traded and proves us CDR “haters” and Nets management wrong.

My answer to that is, “who cares”.

I believe that is probably Prokys feelings on the matter also.

Plus poor CDR will be free from all this mess.

Works out for everyone.

Hope it gets done…

CDR is a role player. He has one very good skill: He can get to the basket and finish. But the rest of his game is below average.

There’s nothing necessarily wrong with that (Jason Collins did pretty well as a role player), but he clearly has an inflated view of his value in this league. He’s a second-round pick with 38 career starts just a year and a half into his career, and he wants to be traded? Does he have no patience?

He could be a decent contributor on a decent team, if he’s surrounded by the right players. But when you put a role player like that in the starting lineup without much talent around him and an inexperienced coach, his deficiencies are going to be exposed.

I like CDR’s game and love his contract. In the right role, I think he could be a part of a better Nets team next year, but he’s not exactly irreplaceable. Is he better than some guy averaging 20 points a game in the D-League right now?

Yi, Boone and CDR for Thabeet and Lester Hudson would be interesting for both teams. That would make Memphis a pretty deep team. Lopez at PF next to Thabeet? Hmm.

I believe CDR needs to go. We have Lee.

We don’t need any headaches right now. And if there is one thing I’ve learned in my 20 plus years as a Nets fan, its that “headache” players are not worth the hassle.

Coleman wasn’t worth the trouble, Marbury wasn’t worth the trouble and CDR is certainly not worth the hassle.

@jirohkanzaki other teams AREN’T incompetent like the Nj nyets…typo…

CDR is getting paid to play bball…we are not getting paid to watch “entertainment”…..I have never turned off so many games in my life…

We have what Thabeet needs: An opportunity and time. Memphis has seen the light at the end of the tunnel and they really seem to want to compete right now and forge onwards towards the playoffs.

I feel like Yi and CDR fit into their plans better than Thabeet and vice versa.

yi is a stretch 4…a rare commodity in the nba…we had 2 but threw one away for courtney lee, a sg, the most gettable asset in the nba…we shouldn’t give yi up but find a true starting 4.

@ jirohkanzaki – They ranked ZACH RANDOLPH as the best off-season acquisition with Jefferson and Carter as the two WORST!!!!! Rod Thorn should be given a contract extension FOR LIFE for that!

…Marbury got us Kidd… so he was worth the trouble.

Also, CDR is cheap labor. Don’t think we should give him up unless we get a first rounder straight up.

He has some ability and if we throw him away cuz of a small headache, we could really regret it.

“Yi, Boone and CDR for Thabeet and Lester Hudson would be interesting for both teams. That would make Memphis a pretty deep team. Lopez at PF next to Thabeet? Hmm.”

Thabeet is not ready to start.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yzo98dx

That works better for us (Including the Dal pick), but they wouldn’t do it.

@ diehard

The Carter trade is, in its totality, indefensible.

So we give Sean Williams years to screw up and CDR twitters too much and he’s out the door? I know I’m simplifying it, but I like a guy like CDR. And if we kept an even bigger problem like SWat around because of raw potential, then CDR should too.

It’s a business of scape goats but in the end, the scape goats are only minor distractions to the real problem.

Is Yi. It is all because of Yi. Please trade him so that he can be out of this All Star Level team with Hump, Slopez, CDR + Ryan Anderson, VC, RJ adn LF.

LMAO!

I wouldn’t mind Sam Young. He was a 2nd round pick too, so he could be considered equal value. And he might be a better fit for the Nets.

@diehardNFFLbarnone

that’s the curse of rod thorn at work…only special players like jkidd is able to resist it (barely).

It’s managements fault, sure, but their hands are tied. They can’t spend money that is not there.

Scapegoats or not, the players are the ones who play the game. They, just like our half-hearted management have to be held accountable to some degree.

the curse of thorn is another reason cdr shouldn’t want out… :)

The Carter trade saved us from paying a declining player 17 mil a yr through 11/12. Reddick is playing important minutes over him in Orlando.

RJ for Yi and Simmons was a wash…They all are terrible , stand around and wait players……No aggression…..Now for CDR….I would wait until the draft and see if we can get the picks that we want by having the two of them(Also Harris) for leverage or I would trade him to Memphis for their pick and use that and our pick around draft time to get Wall or evan turner..It’s too bad….CDR has alot of potential but he will be one of those players who will always be a Problem…Yeah , He has a chip on his shoulder against the Whole NBA including the team that drafted him , The Nets , And this is where he is getting the best oppurtunity to show what he has than he will ever get in the NBA……Definitely at sometime soon , Get rid of him…

There is no ‘Curse of Thorn’, it supposedly all started with KMart, but right now KMart is playing perhaps the best basketball of his career.

Ryan Anderson’s stats are about the same from last year to this year. My bet is he won’t change much, if not at all, through out his career. I agree with NI that only Jackson improved after he left. As far as the talent return for the big 3, the goal wasn’t to get equal talent in return but to dump salary. Thorn accomplished that every time. Since Carter came to the team, imo we had the best back court in the NBA each year but we could never contend while spending big $. It’s a waste of money to spend big $ on guards. Hopefully Thorn learned from our expierence. It’s all about defensive bigs.

@Net Income

What about Anthony Johnson? He got away. No big deal. I don’t even remember if he was even with us during the Thorn era or if that was earlier.

CDR is a nice offensive player but shouldn’t be a starter. He’s not worth all of the grief.

I’d trade him for one of Memphis’ picks. The Nets would just have more trade/sign & trade options come the off season.

If the Nets can’t get any of the top flight free agents, I’d rather they keep their cap space, draft four players, trade Harris for more youth, become players in the 2011 free agent market. Durant would be a RFA that year, i believe.

Worst scenario is to panic and give a huge contract to a B level free agent.

Nets management is worst than any management in the history of all sports.

@NetFan48 u think this is best oppurtunity 4 CDR? Being benched 4 a shell of himself older player when the team is developing youth?having your position changed at season’s end? Avg 17pts a game, breakout season style, then a man loving coach comes in and ceases HIS development and career?? Being FORCED 2 feed the ball n2 B Slopez and a 28yr old chinese dude that’s the object of affection of the GM?? Ha! What an joke!

I think CDR has talent, I wouldn’t want to trade him for a number 20 or worse draft pick. I’d trade him to Orlando for Brandon Bass? But we really could use a backup center…A 20th pick gets you a SWAT type player, unless you can get lucky. Just dumping CDR because he twitters too much is crazy. Thorn should just tell him to shut up. With the trade deadline approaching, I’d like to see something meaningful happen. Dumping CDR for a late first round pick just doesn’t get things done. Also, when will PROKY take hold of things, and spend some money on the coaching staff? With a quality guy like Del Harris gone, we have KIKI and some nobodies on the staff. We have a young team that needs more coaching!

We won’t get equal value for CDR if we trade him for players….thus a draft pick makes the most sense. Like it or not, he has become a cancer on this team and his play is indicative of a guy that does not want to be here. If he ever becomes a valuable guy, it won’t be on the NETs. Thus get the 1st rd pick if you can….

If we can get a first round pick for CDR I would do it.

Then we can take that pick with the Dallas pick to move up in this draft. I would like Monroe. Dont know if we can get that far up but with two 1st round picks we can try.

the 20th pick, plus the 24th pick (dallas), plus the 31st pick (nets 2nd rounder) would give the nets a lot of options come draft day if they want to move up.

cdr has to go. and im ha big cdr fan. his game doesn’t go with the nets. and him and twill together make each other immature. i rather keep twill than cdr.

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this is premature…he’s a good player. He’d be a great guy off the bench if we had a star on this team. He doesnt even have a big contract.

I think he’s gonna kick our ass when he gets to Memphis…

lets get a real coach, get a real star 1st and then make a decision on how CDR fits.

I hate that people are hatin on CDR…people didnt feel this way when he was blowin up next to Vince.

I may not be a Nets “fan” if they trade CDR. The Front office is making too many backward moves, and taking too long to get the job done staff and player wise

this is just pissin me off that they want to move CDR…plus Pau Ernstein is right…if you’re gettin a 20th somethin pick for him isn’t worth it. CDR is a legit 20th somethin pick himself.

We need coaching. People are bein dumb and want anything to turn our disaster around.

this whole team lacks the coaching and the go-to guy they need for guys like CDR to thrive. He’s not go to but he’s gonna be a threat if we put an ACTUAL team together that is built around a SPECIFIC vision.

trading CDR is not going to get this team anymore together for the remainder of this year. They only way i’d say we deal him is if we get their 13th pick.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

We seriously need to ask the sixers about Andre igoudala. How about CDR, mavs 1st rounder, and a future 1st rounder or CDR and Courtney Lee. This NEEDS to happen. Then we would have 1, 2 and 5 set for about the next 6 years. Add John Wall and this is a team any free agent would consider. If we were then to add CB4, LBJ, or D-Wade, we would have a dynasty.

I agree with Andres and others that it would be a bad mistake to trade CDR for a high fist round pick.

NI said so himself, not long ago, that CDR was a steal of the draft (paraphrased) and he has had 1 1/2 years of experience since. He is at point of being a true “6th man”, which should be worth a #12-#15 pick – no less.

Nets really need to involve a 3rd team to make a better deal. They could combine a higher pick of their own and throw in Yi (saving $4.9 million in cap space) and bring back something better.

Otherwise CDR could be valuable at draft time, when his value should be higher. Nets should focus on trading Yi, as I believe it was when Yi returned, when CDR’s production dropped, not when Kiki starting coaching.

Besides Kiki probably wouldn’t finish the year as a coach. The next Nets coach should be making this decision.

Regardless of what you think of CDR personally, trading him is a good roster move. Right now the Nets are loaded with decent guards and wings—Devin, Lee, CDR, TWill, and they have the option of bringing back Hayes. And that doesn’t include a backup PG that may or may not be Dooling. In addition, they’ll hopefully draft Wall or Turner, and they will undoubtedly go after a high-scoring wing free agent, because that’s what they need the most IMO. There isn’t enough minutes for all of them. It seems pretty clear that CDR will complain if he is the one to lose minutes next year, and quite frankly, it’s likely if the Nets get one of the top two picks. Why not deal him? A pick is great value because it allows Proky to start with an empty roster and figure out exactly what sort of players he wants on the team. I think it’s a good deal. You’ll have a new player come in who isn’t emotionally tainted from all the losing. Maybe you can get a backup center or a backup point with that pick.

@jerry25: I agree Yi should be traded, too. One thing at a time!

Now it makes you wonder why CDR didnt get picked in the first round? Hmmmmmmm!!!

I like CDR. IMO if we get a late first round pick for him, you have to go for it.

Nets should trade CDR,Yi,and Lee.

I hate CDRs attitude and thugishness, but we all know whatever team he goes to he’ll start averaging 20/5/5 again and be an all-star next season…

The Nets like Yi and Lee. Why would they want to trade them?

The only thing I would trade him for is to get the 13th pick everything else is uncivilized.

“The Nets like Yi and Lee. Why would they want to trade them?”

Because they are both complete garbage. To think this is what we got for Richard Jefferson and Vince Carter is just laughable until it makes you want to cry.

If you can get the 13th pick for CDR you are our next G.M.

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i wish theyd do this, we´d be fun to watch and still have the best chance at wall (no way wed have anything but worst recrd even if we go .500 now).

If the Nets trade CDR they will regret it. He is at least the next John Salmons in my eyes, and he is making peanuts. There is no smart reason to trade him now. Memphis is welcome to give us OJ Mayo if they love CDR so much. Keep CDR.

I wouldn’t trade Yi and C.Lee for Carter and RJ. Nobody would. What’s your point? Yi and Lee are much more attractive.

@mike- LOL!!!

I wonder if CDR, Dallas Pick and 31 pick can get us 13, but that might not be high enough for Monroe.

@ Dumpy

Why is trading CDR a good roster move? If you agree with me that defense and rebounding are our biggest problem then even if you get a low first round pick at best we would be lucky to get an equal return for him and no resolution to our problem. Big men like Swat and Boone didn’t exactly pan out as low first round picks and as you said we have enough smalls. IMO a high scoring wing is useless if your defense can’t create transition which a wing needs. CDR was averaging 17-20 pg and it didn’t help. Why do you think they need “a high-scoring wing free agent” THE MOST?

Why can’t people understand that the Nets don’t want CDR.

It’s pretty simple to understand.

They don’t like his game and attitude.

Why is there such a problem comprehending this?

But if CDR has a “great” game tonight, I have the right to change my mind. LOL

Watch, CDR drops 50 tonight.

It seems CDR reacts to everything that is written about him, good or bad… And he’s way too sensitive.

Another thing…CDR’s family should shut up and stop Twittering away that there’s a conspiracy, and cdr’s being blackballed, and publicly hoping for him to be traded. The organization is watching and its probably a headache for them. True or not, this creates a stigma that CDR comes with baggage.

I like CDR’s talent and want him to remain a Net.

Tillery says CDR is “an athletic, guard/forward who can score and is aggressive on defense” on top of his reasonable contract and this is a guy we want to trade??? Why cuz he speaks his mind about losing, lost his out of position starting spot to a natural SF while Yiki is looking like the fool that he is and is desperate for change. He’s not changing Lee or Yi and can’t change Lopez or Harris so who’s left? CDR!!

I like CDR but would have no problem trading him for the right deal. I do not think tho the nets should trade him for a garbage or even a minor role player. I’d save him to use in a bigger trade as an incentive (kind of like we did w/ ryan anderson, except that time we had to add him to TAKE a superstar off our hands)

@Dumpy
Nets need to add someone good, unless they can get like a #10-#15 pick and bring back a really good backup Center, as you would like to see. I see that Greg Monroe is now #11 / #17 in NBADraft/DraftExpres respectively.

Somehow turning CDR and say Dallas pick into Greg Monroe would be well worth it.

Otherwise, I like the idea of a big trade involving 3 teams. If Nets are going to bring back something good, then that person will probably be under contract for 2010-2011. That means will have to get rid of someone questionable like Yi and his 4 million salary for next year.

Just as you say there wouldn’t be enough minutes for CDR, Yi’s Agent wouldn’t think there would be enough minutes for Yi Jianlian (remember incident last year?) if Nets got say DLee this July.

Somehow though, I think Nets have to be willing to give up a draft pick or two, to a team needing one, in order to get back something good.

In the larger scheme of things, whether the Nets trade CDR or not is meaningless. Really, 156 comments on CDR being traded, a guy who was drafted at #40 and who is currently unable to break the starting lineup on a 4-44 team?

It is not symbolic or symptomatic of anything. It reminds me of all the angst when Hassan Adams was let go. This was a surefire NBA success story, one in which the prodigal returns in another team’s uniform and lights up the Nets. He was last seen in Vojvodina in the Serbian league…last year.

Or how about Sean Williams, whose great talent was unrecognized by the Nets brain trust? Well he is now playing in FUJIAN, CHINA, where in his first game he scored 16 points, grabbed 16 rebounds…and fouled out.

158 comments!
Nets fans are anxious for a good trade rumor.

Wonder how many comments if Yi’s name came up? Would be even better if another team was looking to get Yi.

@NI
Someone should dig up your own quote over 1 month ago, saying how CDR was a steal of the draft (of 2008)!

Put CDR in the same environment as before Yi returned, and maybe a different coach, and probably his numbers would return.

I don’t mind trading CDR, but the issue is that Nets team must be better after the trade.

CDR’s value could easily be increased later this season and he could be dealt on draft day for something worthwhile.

Unless he’s destroying the team spirit, he shouldn’t be given away.

If the Nets do trade CDR to Memphis, I hope they include either the number 1 pick(Wall) and/or Lopez. Memphis would be new favorite team.

I enjoy watching CDR play and I think he has alot of talent I think if the team didn’t have brook he would be contributing a lot more, however the offense is run through brook. I would think it would be a waste to trade off CDR for a pick, I would want equal or better talent, but I would prefer he stay on the team and be our 6th man.

“Really, get a grip.”

You should add this to the NetsDaily banner.

It’s not that I want CDR traded. I don’t. I just don’t understand all the angst.

@Net Income

My comment isn’t about the worth or meaning of this particular potential transaction, particularly. It’s about the attitude of Nets “fans” who are so eager to trade away talent. Last week it was Devin Harris; this week, CDR.

I’ll address this further on the board next week.

@NI

Trading (or actually dumping) RJ might have been timely. But, taking Yi in return and giving him the PF job unearned, was a cancer on the team. You can claim all you want that Yi is as good or better than RA, which is ridiculous to anyone WATCHING the two play. But, cleaning the Nets out of anyone who could replace Yi, should Yi fail, was the decision most responsible for the mess we are in.

I agree with dumpy about logjam at wing if draft works out as expected but I wouldn’t deal him for late 1st pick. You are taking on 3 years of guaranteed salary and odds say much less value. I’m a huge cdr supporter and remain convinced he becomes a top tiered sixth man.

The biggest mistake made this season was in making kiki coach. I always liked frank and never agreed in firing him….but if they needed to go that route they should have hired an experienced coach like fratello. To go with an inexperienced hire on a very young team was a stupid mistake. We witness daily just how big. It all starts with the coaching staff.

If they feel they need to move cdr the only deal I like is cdr and boone for thabeet. Gasol is their center of future. Boone is expiring contract and veteran depth for playoff chase. And cdr is the offense and fan fave they looking for. Not sure thabeet is ever a starting center in nba but young defensive shot blockers a legit 7 feet tall at least gives us a quality backup to develop for brook.

^ what do you suggest we should have done? i doubt you can think of anything better then this in that situation that give us global diversity to fill setas up and gives us a young piece to develop as well as a future valuable trading chip. An whos going to argue that RA is not at the same if not better level then yi? alotta people on thsi site hate yis terrible hands and inability to really do anything

that last comment was directed to robby

Cdr will be a valuable piece to a real team. 6th man or starter he will prove his worth. I guarantee this. He is not a player you give up on so easy without getting a serious chip back.

ryan 243,
agreed that CDR will be a jamal crawford type 6th man. I appreciated franks day in day out hard work, and his constant yelling on the bench to bad calls, he should enthuasism and team support something this team lacked so much. With 8 guys his men would go out there and compete for the entire game. many of you may believe frank was a bad coach, whihc i can understand from some POVs, but the fact is, the man brought a care for thsi team, and showed it every single day. Players prospered in franks system because he did have his favorits who he allowed to dominate ythe ball like vandewghe does with Yi. CDR, Harris, Lopez, even hayes and others grew under the clever coaching of Frank.

What do you want from a coach who never had a good team around him all year?

I don’t get the over-the-top supporters of CDR. Some posts read like they’re from friends and family, though I’m not saying they definitely are.
He’s a decent player. Nothing more or less. I don’t dislike him. He actually seems like a nice guy who tries hard when he’s not pouting, though I think the Twitter stuff is mildly annoying. But he’s the kind of player you bring in off the bench—if he can deal with it emotionally—or include as a piece in a trade to get someone better, either a current player or a draft pick.
So, CDR just doesn’t seem like a player you focus on theat much, either positive or negative.
Build around Lopez and maybe Harris until you can get someone better…if you don’t get Wall.

I like CDR, and have openly supported him but he has brought all of this negativity on his self. He is immature, and the fact that he went out dogging it for the last month is inexcusable. Guys who are 2nd rounders making $700 thou don’t have the luxury of dogging it. Grow up. It’s sad that management has given up on him because he’d be a solid scorer off the bench but he has obviously said some things behind the scene and his piss poor attitude have brought everything to a head. This is what happens when you have a lack of veteran leadership in the locker room and you build an environment of unprofessionalism. From Ratner and Yormark’s lies and deceit, to Thorn’s ineptitude, to Kiki undermining Lawrence Frank, this is what the Nets have sowed.

CDR, Yi, and Harris all need to be dealt out of here, CDR for the sake of his own career and team chemistry, and Yi and Harris because they flat out STINK. And how about shipping that moron Thorn and that idiot Kiki out with the rest of the garbage.

2 bad misses on offensive end and missed easy board due to weak hands. Go Yi!

I was wrong with my take on CDR. I thought he is going to be good but right now, it seems practically all teams are able to defend his personal moves he was effective with in college. Either that or he’s dogging it the Nets being a losing team. If I were the Nets I would wait til they get a decent team unless they can get a decent return.

That pass from top of key to brook at hoop by twill is exactly why his future is as pg

Were no playing D, getting killed in the paint. our offense is bailing us out but we must take our efense up a notch to maintian this type of competitiveness

idunno im iffy on this because this draft is gonna be veeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrry deep. then again i like cdr but his whiney attitude remines me of my ex girlfriend. and when she started whining i got rid of her like the nets want to do to cdr. not to mention we can trade him for a late pick combine those pics draft wall or turner and still get monroe ed davis or deven downey and maybe favors. u have to look at all sides.stop having a fondness to these guys man he does not want to be here. so all of u want him to stay and he wants to leave???

And cdr showing why he is going to be a very good sixth man. Maybe the nets need to deal Yi simply to recapture the rest of the team. A show of good faith if you will. What we get back being irrelevant. Simply showing Yi experience was a mistake and no player will be given his spot again. He’s been weakest link thus far tonite.

Uh this is actually going to be a pretty weak draft Spider man. And lol @ CDR becoming a good 6th man when’s he’s the last man on the playing rotation on this team, I would like to see him traded for his sake.

i dont think the nets would moveCDR unless in meant packaging him with harris or yi. its insane to trade him for a late first round pick with his stats earlier this year. he worth a 15-19 pick if you have a good team where can actually be productive and get involved in the offensive sets

what logjam at the wings? simmons, hassell, hayes and maybe even dooling will either be on another team or out of the nba.

that leaves dh, quinn, lee, twill and cdr…we would at least still need a backup 2 and a starting 3.

cdr is a problem but he is a good scoring punch off the bench for $700K…i say we work on his behavior and not trade him since we won’t get equal value.

SHIP away: simmons, hassell, quinn, boone, battie, and jayes

Stay with CDR plz

Ill hate the Nets 4 life if we trade CDR now!!!

explosive little lad, he only Yi out to play his best

Nets suck!!!! :D :D :D

I’ve thought lots of bad moves were made by the franchise over the years.. Sometimes I was right, sometimes I was wrong, and well all follow our favorite players when they leave, but this is a NETS site for NETS fans.

LET’S GO NETS!!!!!

@ Paul B – Actually it is, because Carter is playing worse than Courtney Lee. It may not look that way because the Magic have been doing so well, but that doesn’t mean anything.

@ diehard

There are a multitude of reasons why the trade was terrible.

1) As for Carter playing worse than C Lee, statistically it is about a push… although Carter is scoring 4 more points per game…. that doesn’t mean all that much for 2 reasons:

A) You are assuming Carter’s numbers would be the same as they are in Orlando if he was still here… It happens in all sports all the time… players change scenery/system and numbers go up or down… KVH looked pretty dang good as a Net. So it’s not a fair assumption.

B) Carter added wins to the Nets. With basically the same team, aside from the trade, we are going to lose 25 more games. He kept guys like CDR in line and kept us competetive beyond his on court numbers.

2)As for the contention that Thorn deserves a contract extension for life, if he would have shut his mouth we could have kept Andersen and gotten Riddick…. but he pushed to add the great C Lee. The trade was more than just Carter for Lee… and if we have to watch the Magic win in the finals with the significant help of Andersen and Reddick, as Lee keeps on missing the broad side of the barn, that will certainly be remembered more.

3) C Lee has not shown himself worthy of being in an NBA rotation this season.

@ dex – Durant will NOT be allowed to EVEN SNIFF free agency next summer, NO IFS, ANDS, OR BUTS!!!!!

let me take that back cdr is a local legend here in memphis the kid was a major part of the team that won the most games in ncaa history,.. the grizzlies will do what it takes to get it done,..and we got alot to offer it would be best if you guys pushed for this trade cuz the grizzlies will give you the best value,..