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Déjà Vu For Nets as Wizards Win at the Wire Again

A month after Earl Boykins kept the Nets from getting their second straight win with a last-second jumper at the Izod Center, Randy Foye did the same with a pair of jumpers in the final minute on Sunday night. The Nets led by as many as 14 in both the first and second quarters, but they were up just six at halftime. The Wizards eventually took the lead late in the third and were up for most of the fourth before the Nets went ahead with a 9-0 run. Foye gave Washington back the lead with a jumper with 44 seconds left and, after Devin Harris missed a shot to tie it, Foye hit the dagger with 13.5 to go. After scoring 31 points on 13-19 shooting in the first quarter, the Nets shot just 19-72 the rest of the way. Yi Jianlian led them with 20 points and a career-high 19 rebounds, but missed two free throws in the final two minutes. Devin Harris finished with 18 points and 14 assists, but shot just 7-24 from the field. Brook Lopez also had a double-double, while Andray Blatche had 36 and 15 for the Wizards.

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lol .. what a joke

I HATE KIKI

by BrS1 on Feb 28, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

Yi puts up big #‘s and I still feel like he played like . Can’t score around the rim, burned on defense, rebounds just fell into his lap, missed FT’s at the end. BUM.

by Brett on Feb 28, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

Sigh…. What can I say?

if you expect this team to win, they’ll show you a lose.

by jarkid on Feb 28, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

Keep Losing in the 4th

During practice they have to talk to the team about Brook
Brook does horrible every game in the second half because of double team.

Harris took way to many 3’s

I like Twill
Hassell owned

AGAIN ANOTHER CAREER NIGHT FOR SOMEONE GUARDED BY YI!
Great playing him to the end of the game I guess you never learned your lesson Kiki. He missed 2 free throws and got killed to the bucket.

PATHETIC

by Randy Oreens on Feb 28, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

Trade Chris Douglas-Roberts. He’s not being used properly, so why even bother keeping him around?

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

well, at least the 24 hours before this game were fun.

by Gerard Himself on Feb 28, 2010 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

Devin Harris couldn’t score and clanked every shot, and he couldn’t even make a layup.

by jarkid on Feb 28, 2010 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

@ Gerard Himself

Sigh…it’s pathetic…

by jarkid on Feb 28, 2010 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

yi 20pts and 19reb? lol i see it and dont believe it. you all think he should have been in the 4th quarter? since he was playing like that?

by daft on Feb 28, 2010 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

here we go again…

by Andy on Feb 28, 2010 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

Ummm Kiki where is Keyon Dooling, one of our more clutch players who can also shoot and handle the ball….Another thing why wasn’t Josh Boone playing he’s our best big defender,it was obvious Yi was getting torched ?

Yeah I know Yi had 20 and 19 but, in all seriousness it was the most shallow 20 and 19 game I have ever seen. He is sooo soft smh stop playing him soo many minutes. Why was Hayes playing when he obviously wasn’t ready..

by Atronic on Feb 28, 2010 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

I know a lot of people will be on the Yi bandwagon after his stat line – but 2 missed free throws in final 1.30 were devastating. More importantly, he can not play defense, period. He should be coming off the bench. Off the bench, he can be effective on nights when he is scoring.

TWill was fantastic. He is going to be a very very good player for this team. Hopefully all the TWill haters are starting to realize how good he can become.

And I do not understand why CDR does not have plays called for him, or even get the ball in position to score. He is like the forgotten man out there when he is on the floor…Hopefully that is fixed next season.

And Brook had a great 1st quarter……then the Wizzards went zone and no adjustment to counter from the Nets bench…

Now we have to wait to play the Knicks on Sat for hopefully winning #7…..

by Ryan243 on Feb 28, 2010 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

Well first of all… no one can guard Blatche, but why wasnt Brook guarding Blatche to begin with? McGee is faster then Blatche so Yi on McGee makes more sense…. but the real problem is Yi is a soft butter fingers who cant finish anything within 5 feet.

by Tim on Feb 28, 2010 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

Yi…does one good thing…two bad things. Gets a bucket on offense, gets destroyed on the defense. Why he was there at the end of the game is beyond me. Kiki sucks…

by Pablo on Feb 28, 2010 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

YI SUCKS, get rid of him NOW!!

by GONETS on Feb 28, 2010 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

When we were doing well in the first quarter, Kiki benched Lopez and Harris, and after that, Wizards are making the most shots, they keep the score closely.

During that time, Kiki never took a timeout or at least let Harris or Lopez be on the court…

by jarkid on Feb 28, 2010 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

Where is Josh Boone???

by Atronic on Feb 28, 2010 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

Kiki is a joke also. We might as well having a dancing monkey as our head coach, at least it would be entertaining.

by Brett on Feb 28, 2010 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

@Atronic
Lopez was also guarding Blatche.

by Net Income on Feb 28, 2010 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

I hate Wizards, do we still have a game against him? Beat them next time…

by jarkid on Feb 28, 2010 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

What is wrong with Yi. He rebounded well but he let Blatche destroy us. He also missed half of his free throws at the end of game. We need to give Brook the ball more in the second half. Brook should have guarded Blatche and the Nets should have switched to a zone much earlier in the game

by Simon24 on Feb 28, 2010 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

Damn, how can YI be in the paint all the time and grabed those damned rebound? This leaves no room for Lopez, which cost a win. HOHO.

by YI_hater_supporter on Feb 28, 2010 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

Great game for Yi. It’s too bad that we lost. This was a very close game. Devin Harris wasn’t there in the second half. Yi is showing improvement and his defense isn’t that bad. He is hustling more too: back-to-back games with double digit rebounds? Even the Czar noticed that Yi was playing better on the defensive end.

by JJ22 on Feb 28, 2010 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

we were suppose to win 1 game this weekend…what goes around comes around

by hello on Feb 28, 2010 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

@ NI Yeah I would have actually liked him to guard him more if Josh Boone wasn’t going to play. Even tho for Lopez he would have been a tough cover, but I think he would have been able to affect him more.

by Atronic on Feb 28, 2010 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

the last person to get blame for that game was Yi. There was NO outside shooting and once the defense packed it in around Brook, nobody could hit a shot to get them out of the zone. Yi could have finished more around the rim but so could Brook or Devin and CDR is playing so passive that he’s invisible on the floor. At least Twill came in a brought some energy. But as usual the Nets lack that player that will produce in crunch time. Foye hit 2 huge shots and we got none…

by supreme on Feb 28, 2010 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

Oh yeah, and we really missed Courtney Lee. We could have used him to get us a couple more points with his recent streak.

by JJ22 on Feb 28, 2010 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

I cannot stand watching people say how good Yi is playing because he had a lot of rebounds. The man he was guarding, Blatche put up numbers as if he were Amar’e or Chris Bosh. Yi plays absolutely no defense. Foye who is almost a foot smaller than him, hit two shots right over him. Yi is a piece of garbage, and the only reason he is playing instead of Boone or Humphries is because of one of the following:

1) Yi & Kiki are dating – Yi must be good in bed.

2) Yormark needs the advertising money so Yi must play unless in foul trouble

3) Kiki is an absolute scrub coach and can’t distinguish between dumb players who can put a hand up and ones who don’t.

SO FRUSTRATING.

by Alex F on Feb 28, 2010 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

We miss Court-ney Lee……we need Courtney Lee… because none except him can make a shot…

by jarkid on Feb 28, 2010 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

Devon Harris is a mistake! He shoots more and with less skill than almost any other point guard; he turns the ball over an inordinate amount; and he does almost nothing to make the other players better. He made Carter look bad last year more than the defenses of the other teams.(Forget the occasional sky pass – that’s the end of his bag of tricks.) He proved tonight that he is useless against the zone. And, oh yes, his defense is a joke.
The Nets better get a good point guard next year or it will just be more of the same.

by Jack on Feb 28, 2010 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

LOL @ Alex F….

your first point is really funny.

by jarkid on Feb 28, 2010 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

Too bad we could have had Blatche a month ago for a bag of peanuts and a 2013 2nd round choice……

by Ryan243 on Feb 28, 2010 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

@ Alex F

Blatche is so underrated. He’s been playing well for the Wizards lately and he has shown potential as an Al Harrington-type player. Blatche can shoot, put the ball on the floor to score, and is long.

Btw. your point “1)” is inappropriate really…

by JJ22 on Feb 28, 2010 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

The NJ Nets. . .Where Career Night Against Your Team Happens. . how many touches did Brook have in the first half?\ Compare that to how many he had in the second…… Complete LetsGoNets! Cannot wait till we get an actual coach.

by pleasedraftjohnwall on Feb 28, 2010 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

@ Jack

sad… but true…

by jarkid on Feb 28, 2010 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

@Pablo

When the score is 79 to 77, how can YI grab the offensive rebound and draw the fault? The he grabed a defensive rebound and assist Williams for a dunk. This makes Kiki think YI is good and didn’t bench him. As a result, YI cost a win. HOHO.

by YI_hater_supporter on Feb 28, 2010 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

Yi was not having a good game, he is just INCONSISTENT… lol

by GONETS on Feb 28, 2010 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

Keyon Dooling should have been in at the end!!!
lol @ Alex smh very frustrating

by Atronic on Feb 28, 2010 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

Yi’s only fault was missing some critical free throws. Outside of that, he played a hell of a game!

The entire fault of tonight’s loss should be placed on Devin Harris’s plate. I have never seen a worse shooting night (6 of 25!), and one where he just would not stop shooting. He was passing just fine and should have simply focused on passing during the fourth quarter. For a leader, he is sure a poor role model.

Brook also let me down in the fourth quarter. Granted, the team does not create shots for him like they should, yet he too forces way too many shots!

CDR is a waste of time as usual.

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

The efforts is there for the Nets. Keep playing hard and rebound the balls. When the balls start falling more frequently, the nets can win.

by Close One on Feb 28, 2010 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

To the people defending Yi, you clearly either:

A. Didn’t watch the game
B. Know nothing about basketball
C. Love box-scores

His stats are so padded in this game it is disgusting. He had 10 rebounds fall into his lap and should have had 45pts with the amount of layups and dunk attempts he missed. The guy is charmin soft and even misses 2 FT’s that would have given us the lead down the stretch. Screw Nets management for shoving this piece of trash down our throats.

by Brett on Feb 28, 2010 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

Lopez sucks, he forced too many shots, and he didn’t attempt some post-up plays, and just threw the ball to the rim without well-controlled.

by jarkid on Feb 28, 2010 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

Ian Eagle just nailed Yi’s game tonight. Box score doesn’t reflect what he didn’t do through the game – especially at the end.

Kiki just now about Yi: “he tried hard, he played hard, he had a really good game”

What is he smoking?

by fastbreak on Feb 28, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

@Brett

I don’t see anyone who is defending YI here though, I think all the comments here hate him. SO PLEASE NETS, GET RID OF YI, so we can have some more wins!!

by GONETS on Feb 28, 2010 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

From reading most of your posts on here, it seems that Yi is responsible for defending all five opposing players at the same time. Regardless of who scores, it was Yi’s fault for them scoring……

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

jarkid, I understand you’re upset, but can we please all stop saying that Lopez sucks? We have one of the best center in the East. He doesn’t suck. He’s a second year center asked to carry a team. He will make mistakes, but he’s great.

by Gerard Himself on Feb 28, 2010 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

@Adam

Yeah, because YI SUCKS, and we all hate him!!

by GONETS on Feb 28, 2010 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Gerard,

Lopez lacks that killer instinct. He is a good player, yet he is not a “great player”. He can’t be relied upon to be clutch in the end.

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

Wake up Nets fans. Anyone who believes that Yi will NOT be in the starting lineup opening day next year is dreaming. Games like this seal the deal. Let’s stop wasting time criticizing Yi. The marketing plan is set. Let’s see if we can get a quality SF to cover for Yi’s weaknesses. Yi will be gone in three years when we are competitive, so he is not impairing our march to the championship in 2013.

by robby on Feb 28, 2010 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

Gerard,

Lopez lacks that killer instinct. He is a good player, yet he is not a “great player”. He can’t be relied upon to be clutch in the end. He will never be a number one option.

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

once again getting heavily outplayed at both forward positions. Kiki has proven he is not fit for a coaching job, bad decision to make him intern and go so long with out a head coach. Now when the offseason arises we will have to find a coach on much more defined terms

by jerrod on Feb 28, 2010 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

The game is very close, stop blaming people. If the balls fall for the nets a little more, the nets win. STOP THE BLAMES.

by Close One on Feb 28, 2010 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

Go Nets,

If Humphries had the game that Yi had, you would be posting on here over how great he is while drooling over your keyboard. Find another Nets player to pick on for this loss. I have not seen many posts being critical of DHarris’s lack of shooting touch. Do you think he had a good game?

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

1. If Yi is in at the end of games, a team cannot and will not win…ever. (A team will rarely win if he starts a game)

2. Good Twill sighting. Not only was he the reason we were still in it at the wire… more importantly…
He seemed to have a great in-game sense, seemingly directing traffic and running the show. Only mistake: he didn’t direct Yi to the locker room at the 5 minute mark (with Kiki right behind him) sigh

by JRON on Feb 28, 2010 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Yi had some great stats, but the fact remains that he plays 0 defense. The man he guards almost always has a career night!

by Joanne on Feb 28, 2010 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

To the “fans” who blame Yi on this lose— He’s who he is. He is not a all star player and probably will never be. He can play some offense, he’s suck on defense but improving. Give this kid a break. Harris, on the other hand, 7-24 from the field, consistently shotting wild shot and miss them, is the one killing us form the winning straight.

by haha1060 on Feb 28, 2010 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

Devin Really, and I mean REALLY needs to work on his jumpshot over the offseason its boarderline unacceptable when you think about it. It’s ineffectiveness strongly impairs his game to the point where… this happens.

by jerrod on Feb 28, 2010 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

@ jerrod – Exactly, and that is where I think Mike Brown could do wonders for this team.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

Like everyone else said, if Yi scored 40 it wouldn’t even matter cause the man he’s guarding will score 80. But I’m sure his big night shooting tonight will make the brain trust even more determined to not take him out of the line up.

by Gina on Feb 28, 2010 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

Devin had a great game, but in the 4th qtr. he just threw up way too many 3 point shots. They were one and done way too many times.

by Joanne on Feb 28, 2010 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

HAHA so wait Yi is now better without Lopez, lopez is a beast and yes a great player who is only 21. When was the last time you saw someone frustrate Perkins. SMH Yi needs to hit someone one of these days like Humphries, when Yi guards people they go face first to the rim smh.

by Atronic on Feb 28, 2010 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

diehard,

Mike Brown can’t coach….take Lebron off the Cavs and they would be right there with the NETS in the win column. If you want Mike Brown so badly, just become a Cavs fan.

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

I meant better than Lopez

by Atronic on Feb 28, 2010 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

Joanne,

Devin shot 6 for 25 and you think he had a good game. He only took 8 shots in the fourth, making 1. Consequently, the first three quarters, he was 5 for 17. You think that shooting should be overlooked for his great passing stats?

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

@ Adam – Oh, really?

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

Not all those rebounds fell in Yi’s lap. He fought for a bunch of them including a nice play where he ripped the board away from a Wizard then had the awareness to throw it downcourt for a TWill slam. I thought Blatche was excellent today and he scored on Yi as well as Humph and Lopez. Yi needs to convert the shots he has around the rim and learn to finish after contact. No one on the team shot it well. I’m inclined to say Harris shot way to much but there weren’t much better options out there.

by Chris2 on Feb 28, 2010 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

People…

by Kael on Feb 28, 2010 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

@ Kael – What?

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

@Brett

Well, it’s not Yi’s fault that the rebounds just fell to him. If they fell to Lopez or Humphries and they collected the boards, the attitude would be different. You’d all be saying, “Wow, Lopez did this and that.” Well, Yi played a good game tonight. There’s one specific incident I remember is when he snatched the rebound from Blatche and threw a good outlet to Twill for a nice slam. I’m just saying, give credit where credit is due. Yi played well. Prior to this game, Yi was playing much worse and I’d rather see this from him than what we saw in January.

I don’t try to bash a single player. I support the team as a whole, meaning if someone messes up, then it’s the team that messed up. However, I do like to see good games from those who have been struggling. It’s a game like this that could boost Yi’s confidence and have him playing at a higher level. After all, basketball is a team game. Rebounds show that you’re working for the team.

Also, Terrence gave us a little spark. I’m surprised that more of you aren’t congratulating him for his efforts. This type of game is better. I hope to see continued improvement from our young guys.

by Juwanna Man on Feb 28, 2010 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

Yes Die Hard. I can assure you that if Mike Brown was available, the NETS would not even glance in his direction. Take away Lebron from the Cavs and I even think the Nets might be better than them.

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

@ Adam – Please provide some proof.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

@Chris2

“Yi needs to convert the shots he has around the rim and learn to finish after contact.”

If a guy cannot do that or just get a damn firm hold of the ball in his third year of NBA career, he should just pack and get out of the game.

by GONETS on Feb 28, 2010 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

I understand rewarding Yi for his play, but why is he in in the last 2 minutes? Didn’t Kiki notice that they ran the same play twice and they targetted Yi and scored over him? Why didn’t Kiki change the d to hide Yi? Bad coach. Bad player in crunch time. They went away from Lopez and when they needed a crunch bucket, Lopez was not fed. He would have sunk those 4 free throws. He would have slammed the last play that slipped through Yi’s hands. Enough Kiki: Yi is not a prime time player. Should have done an offense-defense substitution.

by geo on Feb 28, 2010 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t know if u guys saw the same game, no one guarded blatche well, if hump played better against him he would have been on court, bottom line is lopez is vanishing against players with lesser talent when it matters.

YI was in all the plays on both ends and he did get all those rebounds in traffic also Brook had no FT’s? what’s up with that? I am not a YI fan but blaming one guy is foolish especially when it was a close game.

If anything it is because we miss a closer, all our guys force shots they are clueless on last second possessions that is pathetic. Part of the problem is because we lack a real coach so we don’t have that edge.

All games we won were not close.

by Sunil on Feb 28, 2010 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

“Ian Eagle just nailed Yi’s game tonight. Box score doesn’t reflect what he didn’t do through the game – especially at the end.”

Just got back from the Meadowlands – that was pathetic!!!!
And yes I agree with this quote – he was brilliant in some respects but killed them in others. Those 2 missed free throws at the end were just soft and cost us the game as did Devin’s clueless attempt to tie the game in the final minute when he got into the lane uncontested and then just froze up before chucking one at the rim.

Monster stats for both Yi and Devin – NOTHING when it really counted. And can we for once not make Andray Blatche look like a cross between Wilt the Stilt and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? Just atrocious.

by Isaac on Feb 28, 2010 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

I blame this one on Harris and Lopez. Even though Yi was terrible as usual, he did something. I don’t understand why Harris keep shooting 3s. What happened to Hayes??? He completely disappeared.

As usual when somebody is heating up, that player goes down. This is the story of the Nets this season. Lee starting to look good and now he is down. Oh well…..

Why our players always pick up injuries against Celtics????

When this season is going to end. Please pick up four more wins and end the season. We had enough of this….

by Tony on Feb 28, 2010 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

at diehard:

Are we starting the Mike Brown argument again???

A reminder the top coaches in the NBA are: Jackson, Popovich, Sloan, Karl, Carlisle, McMillan, Adelman, Larry Brown, D’Antoni for offense, Thibedeau for defense. Mike Brown is not in the top 10, period.

by Isaac on Feb 28, 2010 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

@ adam you bash cdr and single him out sometimes.

by 1milord on Feb 28, 2010 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

@ Isaac – Please provide some proof.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

Bottom line I’ve never seen Yi come thru in the clutch as a Net, I’ve seen Humphries against Boston, I’ve seen CDR last year against heat, this year against Chicago,Harris,Dooling,Lee,Lopez etc….I don’t want to just bash Yi but he is not a finisher if he’s not mishandling rebounds he’s having a free throw violation. If Frank were coaching he would have put in our best defensive big on the team Boone. How many times have you seen Boone switch out on a perimeter player last year and make him work, you need to switch especially at he end switch out offense for defense.

by Atronic on Feb 28, 2010 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

1milord,

I can’t help it. CDR brings nothing to the table for the Nets and wastes precious court time that could be going to other players. I understand the issues regarding plays not being called for him, yet there are many a players that can have substantial impacts on teams without having their numbers called. Play good defense, make crisp passes, get some offensive rebounds for god’s sake.

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

Altronic,

Why would you rely on Yi to be the finisher of these games? He is not our number one option. Devin and Brook are responsible for that and they are failing miserable!

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

Devin got hacked everytime he drove to the rim in the 2nd half with no calls. I was sitting right there and he has a hard time finishing lately but i can count 6 or 7 that he shoulda been shooting free throws. Their zone in the 2nd half killed Brooks game. Yi let randy foye shoot 2 shoots in his eye (the same spot and fade away shot) to kill us at the end. Twills 3 and then dunk really got all 4000 people there excited. Devin wouldahad 20+ assists of Yi could finish around the rim. Like a lot of other people said, if you think Yi had a good game then you didn’t watch the game. Boone and Hump should have been on the floor a lot. Somethings gotta give man? I am honestly sick of this.

by Bruce on Feb 28, 2010 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

@ Adam agreed, the only thing Mike Brown did was get Lebron to play defense and he got on everyone else and got them to play lock down D, which I guess is good but outside of that he probably does more to hurt then help. Lebron might as well coach the team himself.

by Gina on Feb 28, 2010 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Mike Brown is to Cleveland as Jim Caldwell is to Indianpolis, they have head coaches on the field. When looking for a head coach we should look for someone who has been able to do a lot with little, what I think.

by Atronic on Feb 28, 2010 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

@ Tony as far as why Harris kept shooting threes, I imagine it’s because once teams adjust to their first offensive game plan Kiki can’t make in game adjustments and the rest of the team is left trying to ad lib.

by Gina on Feb 28, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

@ Adam I agree, but in terms of getting a big rebound or finishing around the rim when people are punching you in the ribs isn’t Yi’s specialty either.

by Atronic on Feb 28, 2010 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

" “16 points, 10 rebounds and 3 blocks for Brook Lopez, but only two of those points in the second half. Feel like a broken record writing that.” This was quoted from the recap tonight from netsarescorching.com. I’ve been saying this for a while now. When will kiki wake the LetsGoNets! up?

by pleasedraftjohnwall on Feb 28, 2010 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

@ Atronic – Nobody was praising LeBron like this BEFORE he got there.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

Bruce,

Good input, yet you just don’t state the obvious. If Devin could have made a simple basket or two in the fourth quarter, the Nets would have won this game. Foye’s two fade aways were not easy shots, thus I am not so sure how better Yi could have played him.

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 9:35 PM EST reply actions  

@ adam you got to remember he’s playing out of his position not saying that the only reason he’s not playing well right now but the kid just started getting playing time again after being in kiki’s dog house he just got to get used to playing big minutes again.

by 1milord on Feb 28, 2010 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

@ Agent 0

Your post is positive. But I am surprised that you don’t understand why fans here always blame YI.

Read this from Times magazine:
“Harvard’s Hoops Star Is Asian. Why’s That a Problem?”

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1951044,00.html#ixzz0gt9KKQp5

by YI_hater_supporter on Feb 28, 2010 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

@ Adam; okay fine, not great, but good, yes. All I said was that I hoped people would stop saying he sucks. And he will never be a no. 1 option in your opinion? So let’s say he plays for another 13 seasons. He will never, absolutely never be a no. 1 option? Lopez has more offensive moves than almost every center in the NBA. He’s scoring almost 20 ppg in his second season, so to say that he will never be a no. 1 option, I can’t agree. Especially since he’s already a no. 1 option…

by Gerard Himself on Feb 28, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

1milord,

I am getting increasingly confused about this “out of position” arguement for CDR. Is Al Thorton that much of a different player than CDR. He might be an inch taller……and he does not get his number called many times a game. Yet he somehow finishes with 20 points and 8 boards compared to CDR’s 4 points and 3 boards.

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

@ diehardNFFLbarnone LeBron was playing Highschool games on ESPN. He was always highly touted as a transformational player.

by Atronic on Feb 28, 2010 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

Gerard,

He is not our number 1 option apparently as everyone believes Yi for some reason needs to provide the finishing touches to the game. Lopez can and will be a very good player, yet he lacks that killer instict and I’m afraid that unless the Nets obtain a player that can motivate Brook, he will never realize his true potential.

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

@ Atronic – That does not follow from my argument.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

die hard,

Curious as to why you are so infactuated with Mike Brown? Are you from Cleveland? Are you related to him? Do you owe him money?

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

I think when we’re looking for a head coach we need to find like a high school coach or a d-league coach or something. Someone who’s used literally having to teach basketball. If we bring in someone who’s used to working with veterans and going straight to x’s and o’s cause the basics are automatic to him he’ll go crazy after 2 weeks and quit.

Also Brook probably gets shut out in second half’s because 1. we have no shooters to keep teams from doubling him and crowding the paint, and 2. Once teams adjust to our offensive game plan we can’t readjust.

by Gina on Feb 28, 2010 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

@ Adam – Why do you care about that? I’m from Newton, no, and no.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

@Adam, yeah you are correct I think Devin missed his last 10+ shot in a row. It was pathetic. CDR I am havin a hard time figuring out. He just isn’t aggresive like he was at the beginning of the year. Also I bet almost everyone on this site could have predicted a huge game for Blatche. He is aggresive and can handle the ball. I like him a lot. Funny how the wizards are 4-3 without their “stars”. Sometimes addition by subtraction i guess?

by Bruce on Feb 28, 2010 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

Lame

:( :( :(

by Mr. omG on Feb 28, 2010 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

took me 10 mins to finish reading all the posts here, and i feel so sad for Yi, being a Nets, he gets no credit but bashing from the NETS FANS regardless of how he performs

by Robert on Feb 28, 2010 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

@gonets

Yi’s weak hands concern me more than any aspect of his game. I think he will be dedicated and work on his game and improve, but the weak hands may never change. That being said, Yi reminds me a little of 2009 Andray Blatch so maybe there is still hope for him.

by Chris2 on Feb 28, 2010 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

To me this game tells you not only will the Nets set the all-time worst record but that the players themselves don;t even care. Letting Blatche just go off like that, Devin not chasing hard enough after loose balls down the stretch, Yi missing two pivotal free throws.

This was a game they had to have if they seriously are trying to get to 10 wins but they just don;t seem to care. What a disgrace. I hope Ratner is real proud of himself, not that he cares one bit about this team.

by Isaac on Feb 28, 2010 9:55 PM EST reply actions  

at Robert:

“took me 10 mins to finish reading all the posts here, and i feel so sad for Yi, being a Nets, he gets no credit but bashing from the NETS FANS regardless of how he performs”

did you watch the game?? His numbers were outstanding and he even got many big rebounds for ONCE in his life. That being said, he was soft at time when gathering the ball under the basket, missed some easy ones, still showed no consistent touch from outside and missed two CRUCIAL free throws which essentially cost him the game.

There is more than what you see in the box score!!! Yi is simply not a winning NBA player and never will be.

by Isaac on Feb 28, 2010 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

okay we needed lee. and we dont need yi.

by ZHAS on Feb 28, 2010 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

Issaac,

Did Brook show you much down low during the pivotal fourth quarter. I recall him chucking two shots from nowhere and playing quite soft under the board himself. How many boards did he have in that quarter? How many points? Did he play great defense. I am all for holding players responsible, yet why do people close their eyes to Brook and Devin, the two who should be held most responsible?

by Adam on Feb 28, 2010 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

Devin Harris’ decision-making close and late in games is putrid, much like R. Jefferson. I think Mr. Wall is needed more than we realize.

by Mike F. on Feb 28, 2010 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

@ Mike F. – And so is Vince Carter’s.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

@Robert, I agree it’s not entirely his fault because the coaching staff shouldn’t be putting him in the position they do, but the problem is no matter what he does on the offensive end it’s negated by his huge deficiencies on defense. When you already have an offensive minded center you can’t live with a power forward with inconsistent offense and who gets murdered on the other end.

by Gina on Feb 28, 2010 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

whoa whoa. VC is the definition of clutch.

by ZHAS on Feb 28, 2010 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

@ ZHAS – I don’t think so. That title really belongs to Kevin Durant.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 10:06 PM EST reply actions  

@diehard, lol I completely agree. I know when the team has 6 wins it’s easy to wish we still had Vince and co but how many games can you guys remember wanting to stick your foot through your tv after because with like 3 minutes left and the game in reach and Vince dominating he would randomely stop driving and settling for weak jumpers or trying to make extra passes when he had open shots? At least this team legit sucks, Vince is was one of the most frustrating players I’ve ever seen. He has/had all the talent in the world to be on the same level as the Kobes and the Dwayne Wades of the world but he seemed to just have no consistent killer instinct. I don’t see how anyone could consider him the definition of clutch, I’ve always considered him, along with rasheed wallace and t-mac for other reasons, one of the most disappointing players of the last ten years. Not because they’re not awesome, but because with their talent levels they probably could have been all-time greats instead of just all-time really really good. (ftr I’m a tarheel and was raised a UNC fan so I might have higher standard for Carter and Wallace at least)

by Gina on Feb 28, 2010 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

The zone killed the Nets, plain and simple. Blatche taking the frontcourt to the woodshed and the way Foye was defended at the end of the game didn’t help.

by Mr. Dollar Bills on Feb 28, 2010 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

i said it. gosh darnit i said it. i said watch Harris and brook go to the bench and the wiz will make a run. man im a genious.

by Spider Man on Feb 28, 2010 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

I am with Adam, though i didnt watch the game, but i was reading live comments of the game on my mobile phone, and if you guys think Yi is that bad, even not a NBA caliber player, then logically speaking, when a d-league player grabbed 19 rebounds(12 offensive), you should give him some credits. From your posts, all I get is your guys treat Yi as an all-star level player, and asking him to bring victory to the team, if he fails to deliver, the bashing comes.

by Robert on Feb 28, 2010 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

Never in NBA history has any player had 19 rebounds fall into his lap. People who suggest same either

1) didn’t watch the game.

2) don’t understand the game of basketball,

3) or can’t read a box score.

This thread promises to be one of the longest ever for a game story. Why? Because of the hatred for a player. This is a kid who is on his rookie contract, tries hard, and is different.

Unlike two of his teammates, also on rookie contracts, he has never expressed in Chinese or English a distaste for his team or a desire to be traded…and who is much more likely to be successful, long term, in the NBA.

by Net Income on Feb 28, 2010 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

What’s wrong with Devin?
Please get rid of Yi – He sucks on defense
Kiki can’t coach – we know that

by Lefty100 on Feb 28, 2010 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

@ Gina -

I totally agree with you. I’m glad that we have a chance to get a legit rookie with star potential in the draft. It beats being an "okay" team that’s stuck in the 12-17th slot in the draft. This is the process of rebuilding a team. Nights like this are likely to happen.

I also agree with you on Vince Carter. He is without a doubt my favorite player in the game. His rookie, sophomore, third, and fourth years in the NBA were truly special… I remember all the Jordan comparisons and I was like, "Damn, this guy’s going to be special." Since then, Carter’s career has been disappointing. Carter lacked the passion and killer instinct to really set his game apart. In his prime, his offensive game was unmatched – VC was the talk of the league and Kobe was still Shaq’s ball-boy. However, Kobe had the passion and killer instinct that allowed him to improve dramatically as a player. The way I see it, after those good years, Vince became soft. He never took it upon himself to improve his defense and he stopped taking the ball to the hole. Sure, his legs gave out, but still, he could finish plays. Now, with Orlando, Carter relies only on his jumpshot. It’s a shame. Carter could have been considered an all-time great if he really worked on his defense. His career could have been totally different. He had all the talent in the world…..

Just to give you guys more insight, check out this article written about him in back in his early career in Toronto:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_6_55/ai_61619024/

by jj22 on Feb 28, 2010 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

LAST NIGHT IN D LEAGUE (FREE TALENT NEW JERSEY NEVER GETS)
  
REGGIE WILLIAMS (a great scorer) has reportedly been called up by Golden State. He’s been compared to Michael Redd and, at this stage of their careers, Williams might even be better and is certainly cheaper.
DWAYNE JONES—24 points (5-7, 14-19 from the line), 18 rebounds, 1 block, 1 assist.
ALEXANDER JOHNSON—31 points (12-19), 9 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 assist.
  
Just another day at the office for Jones, with 18 rebounds. Johnson would be the power forward New Jersey hasn’t had since K-Mart.

by Barry Popik on Feb 28, 2010 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

@NI

Try to separate the personal from the basketball analysis. Personal attacks on Yi are completely unwarranted. He tries hard seems like a good person. The personal attacks come from the favoritism, real or imagined, (mostly real) showed to him. It’s intolerable.

by robby on Feb 28, 2010 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

Trade Chris Douglas-Roberts.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

Was at the game. Yi’s 19 rebounds DID fall into his lap, I was sitting court side and watched it happen. He jumps and flails every time the ball bounces off the rim… the ball usually bounced off his hands or his chest before he firmly brought it down. And he DID miss plenty of easy put backs, regardless of the offensive boards he brought in. He is lost out there. I brought my gf to the game, who knows nothing about basketball, and even she could see that Yi hasn’t a clue what he’s doing. The other Nets were CONSTANTLY yelling at Yi while he was on the floor. I’m pulling for him to be good since everybody else is banking on him being a perennial all star, or at least a Bargniani (lol that it’s come to that), but really… he’s not a starter in this league… PERIOD (which is a favorite word on this site, for some silly reason… everyone loves throwing it in there, why?)

by jb on Feb 28, 2010 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

LOOK at it this way guys. At least we can’t blame Courtney Lee lmao. Just saw some highlights and Yi was getting manhandled on every highlight. I kinda feel sorry for him because he sucks so bad. And kiki just keeps him in. Atronic really nailed it when he talked about how Frank would have handled our bench. This story will never end.

This draft is gonna be so hard if we have the chance to get wall and turner they both are A-list players. LOL i think Yi will start again next year unless we get Stoudemire. Wow with him we could have won ten games by the trading deadline.

by Spider Man on Feb 28, 2010 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

@NI

Now, about those Yi rebounds. Yi benefits greatly, just as Boone and Humph do, from offensive rebound opportunities primarily created by the double team on Lopez, but also by the ability of the Nets guards to occasionally breakdown the perimeter defense so the bigs have to switch off and cause misses. Also, Yi is not being boxed out because the defense is not in position to box out, due to lack of respect for his offensive game (Boone and Swat had the same “advantage”) So, I can read a box score, but it is full of misinformation every night for every player. Raw rebounding numbers are NOT informative. Yi could have half the rebounds on a different night and have had a better rebounding game.

Brook will never get 10 offensive boards, which does not mean that he is inferior as a rebounder to Yi or Boone.

by robby on Feb 28, 2010 11:04 PM EST reply actions  

*after deadline

by Spider Man on Feb 28, 2010 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

I do remember Jason Kidd having 6 or 7 rebounds “fall into his lap” every night. But, I think JK knew where to put his lap!

by robby on Feb 28, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

Read Al’s article pretty much summed it up.

by Atronic on Feb 28, 2010 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

glad to see in reading most of the posts that the cdr fans are dwindling.He is a european leauge sub who thinks he is the next coming of carmelo.However he didn’t lose the game for the nets,kiki did ! In the last 3 minutes lopez dosen,t touch the ball,dooling is on the bench, boone should be in for Yi.Instead we see twill running around trying to find someone to throw a bad pass to,and harris going for 3,s instead of to the basket to get fouled.They already tried to lose enough games for the first pick, mission accomplished. Now give the few fans left a gift and bench Yi,"tweet"dr,and twill and play some pros who may be able to win a few games.Fire Kiki and let keon be the player coach

by FrankC on Feb 28, 2010 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

Yi’s 19 rebounds were the most by a Nets player since 21 fell into Richard Jefferson’s lap in November 2004.

by Net Income on Feb 28, 2010 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

Lopez had 20 rebounds last April: http://www.nba.com/games/20090413/CHANJN/boxscore.html

And Kidd had 19 on 11/16/07.

by NetsDaily on Feb 28, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yi played good today but he should not be in when the game is on the line.No “D”, no fingers!

by FrankC on Feb 28, 2010 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

Yi got 19 rebounds??? I would have gotten 30+ rebounds then…and I am only 5’8"!!!

by Panareal on Feb 28, 2010 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

@NI

Proof of statistically based nonsense. Do you believe that RJ and Yi are the best two rebounders for the Nets over the past 6 years? The only way to understand this game is to watch it, not to read about it.

by robby on Feb 28, 2010 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

I called it on Yi, his lack of defense on Blatche got him destroyed.

I must say, I enjoyed watching Yi get dunked on..

by Sami on Feb 28, 2010 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

Why not more Boone and Humphries? If the Nets still believe in Yi i don’t know what to think.

by Sami on Feb 28, 2010 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

One more shot at “twittdr” Nets are not very good but Harris gives up his body every game, Yi stinks but he hustles all the time,Lopez tries as hard as he can,Dooling,Hayes,hassel, Boone,Hump,TWill,Lee all give what they can. Watch this slug jog to the corner, not try for an off. reb,dribble to long in the same spot and then break into a slow walk back on “d” and then wonder out loud to all who are near why the team is not centered around him.If I was coach “sly” would get in before him!!!

by FrankC on Feb 28, 2010 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

@ FrankC – Trade Chris Douglas-Roberts.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Feb 28, 2010 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

CDR’s last two games:

57 minutes
8 Points
2 Rebounds
2 Assists
1 Steal
0 Blocks
0 Free Throws
0 3’s
52 Tweets proclaiming how much he hates to lose
41 Tweets on how he dominates at practice
23 Tweets bashing teammates and coaching staff

by Tin Man on Mar 1, 2010 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

@ Tin Man – Trade Chris Douglas-Roberts.

by diehardNFFLbarnone on Mar 1, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

@ NI
Wow, crazy that there is so much hate for Yi. Maybe its because of the layups missed/ft’s missed/defensive assignments missed…would you like me to go on? Scoring 20pts and grabbing some rebounds once every 12 games isn’t something that deserves praise. If he goes out averages 18 and 10 for the next 10 games i’ll eat my words..but we both know he will probably score 5 pts and grab 5 boards next game while shooting 2-10.

by Brett on Mar 1, 2010 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

lol tin man

by Spider Man on Mar 1, 2010 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

@Brett

5 points and 5 rebounds would be a huge improvement for CDR.

by Tin Man on Mar 1, 2010 12:23 AM EST reply actions  

Coincidently, just like Yi, CDR had 19 rebounds fall into his lap. Unfortunately it took 15 games for it to happen.

by Tin Man on Mar 1, 2010 12:29 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t see the same “hate” for Harris who threw up so many bricks at the end of the game I thought he was tanking it or Lopez who scored 2 points in the fourth quarter and never went to the line the entire game or CDR who couldn’t fill Lee’s role on either end of the court.

by Net Income on Mar 1, 2010 12:29 AM EST reply actions  

Everyone rags on yi about how andre blatch had a big game. Uhhh, is this supposed to be news? Check out blatche’s game log, he’s been smoking everyyyone. I should know, my fantasy team is reaping the rewards haha He’s been their go to guy since those trades. Is every other power forward in the nba yi too? He had 26 and 18 against the knicks, 24 and 8 against the grizzlies, 25 and 11 against chicago, 24 and 6 over toronto, 18 and 11 over denver and your “tough” kmart, 33 and 13 over minnesota

by muwu on Mar 1, 2010 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

CDR is garbage also, and doesn’t even try it seems like. I just don’t get how people could be defending Yi after ONE DECENT game. DECENT..NOT GREAT.

by Brett on Mar 1, 2010 12:33 AM EST reply actions  

@Tin Man
In the last 2 games he made no such tweets. Hes never made a tweet bashing his team, otherwise he’d definetely be in trouble, and hes made 1 tweet about dominating practice.

And Yi played a great game, no matter what anyone says. 19 rebounds requires alot of work on his part, and finally a good game from the field.

by Antoine on Mar 1, 2010 12:35 AM EST reply actions  

@Brett

20 and 19 is a decent game? Can Lopez put up a “decent” game like that every night then? Heck, could Dwight Howard do that every night is it’s so “decent”?

by muwu on Mar 1, 2010 12:38 AM EST reply actions  

LOL I can assure you I am one of the most diehard/knowledgeable Nets fans on this planet and I used “some” rebounds just to emphasize how this is a rare occurance. I don’t HATE Yi either, he is simply a frustrating, overhyped, soft player. You either have basketball IQ or you don’t. Yi doesn’t have it.
  Also, Devin Harris wasn’t being discussed when I chimed in. If you want my opinion on Harris, he sucked tonight also but has been playing great the past month. I know everything about this team so if you want to get in a discussion don’t think you can throw stats at me that I don’t know.

by Brett on Mar 1, 2010 12:39 AM EST reply actions  

@ MUWU

Yes, it is a decent game when you account for missed FT’s in crunch time, allowing your opponent to score a career high amount of pts, missed layups etc. 20pts 19reb is a great statistical game, but he had an overall DECENT game.

by Brett on Mar 1, 2010 12:42 AM EST reply actions  

And you comparing Yi to Lopez who averages close to 20 and 10 is laughable.

by Brett on Mar 1, 2010 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

Yi is getting blamed here . although he did not do good on defn=ending blatche, that was expected but part of it is CDR and Harris lousy game. If not for their incompetence we will not lose. Harris made a lot of shots and error because he dash too much and cause a lot of turnover. CDR just too slow and predictable. Yi made some but at least he did get some good rebounds. Whoever guarding Foye did not fair well. How could Yi overplay Foye when they make a screen play with Blatche who is hot.

by JuliusIrving on Mar 1, 2010 12:45 AM EST reply actions  

I’m not a big Yi fan, but cmon people – this was a total team loss. Can’t pin everything on Yi. Sure, his man to man D on Blatche was poor, but everyone messed up tonight. Harris, Hayes and Dooling couldn’t shoot at all, Lopez was forcing shots and CDR was a non-factor. Why not spread the blame around? NetIncome is right, Yi atleast will give you effort, no matter how bad his D is. Other Nets are sulking, not running back on D, pouting on the bench, etc. Stop having tunnel vision with Yi and see that EVERYONE is to blame for this loss. The team shot 19-72 in the final three quarters.

by smp369 on Mar 1, 2010 12:45 AM EST reply actions  

I guess all the Jason Collins hate had to go somewhere.

by Tin Man on Mar 1, 2010 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

@Brett

I’m not comparing Yi to Lopez, I’m comparing his output tonight with everyone else’s potential output. For you to say that grabbing 19 rebounds is a decent feat is appalling. And like I said, look at Andray Blatche’s game log since the Washington trades, he’s been averaging around 24 points per game, this isn’t an isolated incident

by muwu on Mar 1, 2010 12:58 AM EST reply actions  

For you to neglect to acknowledge all of the negatives that were displayed by Yi tonight is appalling as well. Never did I say grabbing 19 rebounds was a decent feat..read my post again. HIS OVERALL PERFORMANCE..was decent.

by Brett on Mar 1, 2010 1:00 AM EST reply actions  

@Tin man
What’s your deal? Why do you so intent on thrashing C-DR? When Frank was the coach Douglas-Roberts showed he can produce. Kiki is a terrible coach and he has been unable to utilize C-DR’s talent. He’s not an all-star but he can at least provide bench scoring in the future with a good coach. Currently he has lost all confidence do to a lack of playing time because his coach doesn’t believe in him. The Yi hate annoys me too but he has started all year and still has shown nothing so I at least understand it.

by The Legend on Mar 1, 2010 1:08 AM EST reply actions  

*Why are you so intent on thrashing CD-R?
lol I really can’t type at all this late at night

by The Legend on Mar 1, 2010 1:12 AM EST reply actions  

I’m wayyy off topic with this but seriously if you think about it there are no good coaches in this league. And if there is there’s only limited amount of them. Ex, Mike Brown is a joke of a coach in Cleveland. His philosophy of coaching is put the ball in Lebron’s hands and let him make a play that’s not coaching. Doc Rivers is a joke, also Phil Jackson, who wouldn’t have his amount of wins when they have Jordan, Kobe, and Shaq on there team?! and he was afraid to coach anywhere else because he knew he wouldn’t be able to win without those players. I really believe because were turning this Franchise around and starting Fresh I think we should start fresh with a new coach and let that person make a new name for himself starting with the Nets. Idc if it’s Mark Jackson or whoever as long as they never coached in this league before because the coaching in this league is a joke.

As we all see a coach has his Favorite on a team for us that player is Yi. And that coach will put that favorite player in any giving situation to make that player look good. Unfortunately our player cannot execute well in that position. Yi is not a bad player he just doesn’t have a real coach and doesn’t deserve to start. D’antoni is a joke to these are all examples of coaches being able to put certain players in good and bad positions up to there chosen. Perfect example of a good coach “Byron Scott” any coach who could lead his team to two back to back NBA Finals is a good coach that’s what we need again forget players we need a good coach. Good players with bad coaches cannot win games!

I Hate Kiki!

by Mikee21 on Mar 1, 2010 1:14 AM EST reply actions  

The Nets fans should thank Yi for playing for the Nets…at least he is helping the Nets to get John Wall next season!!!

by Panareal on Mar 1, 2010 1:17 AM EST reply actions  

It is difficult to believe that any sensible human being would hang this loss on Yi. If not for him and his rebounds, the game wouldn’t even be this close. Of course, his missed free throws hurt, but it couldn’t have hurt more than Devin’s missed 7 shots in the last quarter. Blatche was killing us regardless whoever was guarding him. And what happened to CDR? Non-factor! A loss is always a team loss and every player should have a share of it. As a whole, the Nets played a decent enough game to make it look interesting.

by Tomas on Mar 1, 2010 1:17 AM EST reply actions  

@The Legend

I’m just posting his statistics. Sorry the truth hurts.

by Tin Man on Mar 1, 2010 1:18 AM EST reply actions  

Let me clarify something also: I am not blaming Yi for this loss at all.

by Brett on Mar 1, 2010 1:19 AM EST reply actions  

Nobody should blame this lose on Yi. Yi didn’t lose this game for us Kiki did we need a GOOD COACH!

I Hate Kiki!

by Mikee21 on Mar 1, 2010 1:20 AM EST reply actions  

People here use double-standard on Yi.

by Robert on Mar 1, 2010 1:20 AM EST reply actions  

@Mikee21

there are only a select number of coaches that can make a real difference in this league: Larry Brown, Phil Jackson, Jerry Sloan, Greg Popovich, Rich Adleman.

Everyone else, you could replace with around anyone and they will fare about the same.

Anyway, CDR’s tweet around 45 mins ago:
" I didn’t do me tonight… I played D but I’m a better offensive player. First 3 months of the season I was getting 20 a night. GET BACK DADDY!!"

CDR would much rather be scoring big points than play defense. Defense isn’t him. This is a guy that celebrates 20 point nights. Me, I’d rather have a guy who celebrates big defensive stops.

by muwu on Mar 1, 2010 1:21 AM EST reply actions  

@robert

Huge double standard for CDR also.

by Tin Man on Mar 1, 2010 1:22 AM EST reply actions  

Every Net fan is in denial over this terrible season and is ready to play the blame game that’s all it is and that’s the only thing you can do when you have a 6 win team with less then 30 games remaining. There is NO excuse somebody is to blame for this mess the only question is who?! but trust that the person is not Yi. Yi didn’t ask for the mins he get. Yi didn’t ask to be in the starting line-up. Yi didn’t ask to be fed forced mins while he is obviously injured with a sprained shoulder that’s all I’m saying.

by Mikee21 on Mar 1, 2010 1:25 AM EST reply actions  

160+ Comments.Another record?

by Kael on Mar 1, 2010 1:26 AM EST reply actions  

@mikee

He lied in his tweet. He didn’t average anywhere close to 20 a night for the 1st 3 months. More like 13 on 13 shots per night…not very efficient. He didn’t play D last night either.

by Tin Man on Mar 1, 2010 1:30 AM EST reply actions  

Wow,it became 170+ after i read all of them.Awesome!

by Kael on Mar 1, 2010 1:31 AM EST reply actions  

Closing the comments on this post for now, so that the quality of discussion doesn’t suffer more than it already has.

May open up the comments again in the morning. Feel free to discuss the possibility of Tony Battie getting bought out.

by NetsDaily on Mar 1, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

If Yi was a decent player his numbers would have been similar to Blatche’s. I guess the game is harder to understand than I thought cuz when people watch it so many come away with the idea that a player who gets 20 pts and 19 rebounds can’t lose a game for them. The fact that the guy who he was responsible for had 36 pts on 17-31 shooting doesn’t even register, not to mention how Foye hit those two jumpers right over him with the game on the line while giving up an 8 inch height advantage to this historic bust. Although Devin didn’t shoot well the idea of going to the rim all game was why Yi had 12 offensive rebounds but the loser shoots 7-17. Finally after watching Blatche pretty much go through Yi and over Hump all game the bonehead coach couldn’t figure out that maybe Boone could help not only on D but the one thing Boone is great at on offense is cleaning up the misses around the rim and finishing. The big splash Proky is going to make is the one where he throws Yi, Yormark and Kiki into the Pacific Ocean.

by Mr. Big on Mar 1, 2010 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

@Mr Big,
That’s a splash I am willing to accept.
But guys don’t forget a lot of the bad shots Harris took could have been C Lee’s shot and we could have won the game, we weren’t terrible though, don’t forget their tired leggs from last nights game and travelling, I consider the defensive effort not bad, but shame on Kiki to have the whole second half to try to solve the zone issue and the Blatch issue and he couldn’t, that’s bad coaching.

by Marco on Mar 1, 2010 9:14 AM EST reply actions  

Yi has 20 and 19. And yes, I watched the game, and yes, he wasn’t bad. He had a fairly good performance, and did a GREAT job cleaning the boards, this talk about rebounds falling into his lap is ludicrous. He collected NINETEEN rebounds. There’s no way that many rebounds fall into your lap.

7-17 ain’t great, but it ain’t that bad either, and how about Brook’s 8-20? Come on.

CD-R is a talented player, but he needs to be more aggressive. It’s a completely different attitude from what we saw from him early in the season. He was an unbelievable competitor under Frank, and a kid who used to play his heart out. He looks too passive now. But it’s a shame that everyone shoots that much (Harris 24FGA, Lopez 20, Yi 17) and CD-R had only 7 shots. At least the kid doesn’t disrupt the offense.

PS.: Josh Boone needs to be given some PT.

by Andres on Mar 1, 2010 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

We played back to back games, lost one of our better players, and still should of won this game.

I would say that is progress.

Lets go Nets…

by Mike on Mar 1, 2010 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

It’s frustrating to watch Yi play. He is so inconsistent. That being said, he has played better lately. Unless the Nets sign, trade or draft a PF, Yi will be our starting PF next year. Might as well root for him…

by Mike on Mar 1, 2010 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

Yi’s basketball IQ must be thru the roof if he was able to position himself to grab 19 uncontested rebounds…

by PhilNYC on Mar 1, 2010 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

at Andres:

“PS.: Josh Boone needs to be given some PT.”

This is blatantly obvious – it’s ridiculous that Kiki won’t play him (except for the few minutes he got last week likely as a “showcase”.

The guy hustles despite his short comings – gets after it on the boards and seems to care about winning. So why should he be playing? What a joke this team has become again.

by Isaac on Mar 1, 2010 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

I keep thinking that one day Yi will finally “get it”.

Something will click on and his rhythm will adjust to the ebb and flow of the game.

He has the tools but he always seems out of step.

Maybe he should take dance lessons. LOL

by Mike on Mar 1, 2010 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

Good game but…..
KiKi didn’t run the same CLee plays for CDR
CDR made a jumper but was gone after that….
How does Yi stay on the court playing bad D but CDR gets yanked?

DH cannot put 4Qs together and shoots too much.
BLopex 14 in the 1st half… 16 for the game?
The Nets need a new coach and PG
Why is DH jackin up 3s?

The was a play where blatche was open, lopez went to cover, then twill, but Yi stayed with his man under the basket. That’s Yi’s lack of communications BBALL IQ.

I can’t wait until the draft

by DJHeavyDuty on Mar 1, 2010 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

@ Mike

I bet if Proky is the owner next year, Yi will be on the bench if he is still on the team. Hopefully, Proky won’t be persuaded by factors that have nothing to do with winning which is the current situation with Yi. Forget the Nets, even if the NBA wants Yi to be showcased, if Proky isn’t winning with him he will trade him before being forced to deal with the losing like the Nets are dealing with. If won’t be like Ratner trying to cut his loses or whatever the directive is from the league. You know a conspiracy. LOL. It’s really laughable when people try to substantiate the playing time and opportunity Yi gets.

by Mr. Big on Mar 1, 2010 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

I missed most of game (heard on radio) but watched last few minutes on replay.

All I saw was Yi’s inability to dunk 2 or 3 times from 2 feet out. He missed 2 of 4 free throws when they mattered.

The winning shots for Wiz were with Yi trying to guard, but failed to alter the shots.

Blatche had a record night once again. Scored at will.
Everyone said before the game that Yi shouldn’t even be playing against Blatche.

Kiki had the offense set up for Yi with his 39 minutes of play. Boone should have started and Humphries should have finished. Yi should never finish a game.

In short, even Yi’s best game was not worthy of a starter, but if there was some way to market him to another team, I would do that. Unfortunately he can’t be traded soon enough.

Yes, other players like Harris, had a bad game, but Yi rarely has a good game. Yi was a -3, Devin was a +5 and Lopez was a +9. That isn’t evidence that Yi contributed much.

Fire Kiki immediately for benching a rested Boone and not playing Hump after his great game the day before.

by jerry25 on Mar 1, 2010 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

yes it was yi’s terrible defense that made blatche average 27 pts over 7 games after the butler/jamison/haywood trade!!! poeple here are geniuses!

by jirohkanzaki on Mar 1, 2010 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

Yi may have put big stats up in the boxscore but in terms of visible play, he was severely outmatched by a much more potent Blatche.

by Gardner on Mar 1, 2010 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

pau gasol missed 2 end game free throws that lost a game for the lakers against the cavs…

by jirohkanzaki on Mar 1, 2010 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

Yi had great stats, yes, but..

1. A good deal of those rebounds were his own misses
2. He missed two key free throws at the end
3. His D was terrible
4. His shot was off
5. He let Foye shoot over him twice in the final minute or so

Notice he didn’t play in the 4th at Boston and we won?

Overall, I’m still unimpressed by this 7 footer who shoots 40% for his career, despite offense supposedly being his strong suit.

by Jack Handy on Mar 1, 2010 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

@Barry Popik
Nets better sign BIG from D-League before someone else grabs them.
Nets have spot open already and I don’t see them picking up anyone being let go from other teams.

In meantime, about all Nets fans can do is have signs at games to Fire KiYi until Prokhorov notices.
Kiki is a stubborn guy and Yi should be a role player on a good team.

by jerry25 on Mar 1, 2010 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

no one is saying yi is starter but why is it always his fault that we lose? is a loss ever twill’s fault because kiki can shoot better than him blindfolded? or is a loss ever cdr’s fault bec he plays kiki-like defense?

by jirohkanzaki on Mar 1, 2010 12:23 PM EST reply actions  

yes a good coach would let hump (65%) or josh boone (no need to embarass him) play in the 4th so they could nail those end game free throws…again geniuses!

by jirohkanzaki on Mar 1, 2010 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

blatche’s 36 points ia aberration…his shot just happen to “fall into the basket”…

by jirohkanzaki on Mar 1, 2010 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

@Mr. Big;

Until the Nets get somebody they think is better then Yi, to play PF, Yi will play PF.

I understand the anti Yi posters frustration, but he will play PF just like Harris will play PG, unless they are replaced.

Where will the Nets get a strong PF?, Trade?, FA?, Draft???

Should be an interesting summer!!!

by Mike on Mar 1, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

constantly overweight zach randolph’s lap is so big 25 rebounds fell on it!!!
imagine if 19 rebs fell on rail-thin yi if he would just munch on more twinkies, 45 rebounds would easily fall on yi!!!

by jirohkanzaki on Mar 1, 2010 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

@jirohkanzki:
TWill was 4/5 yesterday. Yi was 7/17 in his “best” game (LOL).

When TWill is in the league for 3 years or age 25 like Yi, I’ll bet he is as good an outside shooter as is Yi (who isn’t even a good shooter when it counts – just has good form.).

If TWill had the ball 2 feet from the basket, he would have dunked everytime, regardless as to who was trying to foul him.

Blatche had “record-like” nights the other times he played the Nets. Its no aberration.

Kiki needs to go.

by jerry25 on Mar 1, 2010 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

“jirohkanzaki Says:

no one is saying yi is starter but why is it always his fault that we lose? is a loss ever twill’s fault because kiki can shoot better than him blindfolded? or is a loss ever cdr’s fault bec he plays kiki-like defense?"

Yi has played more minutes than the both of them put together, and is having offensive plays called for him.

Yi has played like crap this month. I don’t see what’s so hard to understand about this or the reason why people are calling for his head. He’s A HUGE liability on defense, his shooting is PATHETIC for a starting PF, and he’s inept at finishing around the basket.

It’s not entirely Yi’s fault when the Nets lose but he sure doesn’t help. It’s not his fault though that the coach is an idiot, either.

by Mr. Dollar Bills on Mar 1, 2010 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

I had the limited perspective of just seeing the last six minutes of the game last night. I thought we showed some signs, but the end was certainly disconcerting. Constructive Yi criticism: check out how Pau Gasol puts back offensive rebounds. He keeps the ball high when he gets it down low and goes right up with it. Yi brought the ball down as he gathered himself on those two late fouls, and thus didn’t take full advantage of his height.

The offense melted, didn’t get Brook the ball, and Devin was forced into some truly ugly shots. It’s easy to blame the players, but we’ve been shut down by zones and when it counts all season, so maybe we need to have a better plan. It’s also easy to blame Kiki, but he’s clearly miscast as a coach and whose fault is that?

Remember in preseason when Frank said he was spending all of his practice time on defense because we were so horrific last season? This lack of balance in preparation still shows itself when it counts. We’re like a Geico commercial—the Nets’ offense: so easy to shut down, even the Wizards can do it.

by jabez on Mar 1, 2010 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

Nets problem is defense.

by jj on Mar 1, 2010 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

@ jabez

“Constructive Yi criticism: check out how Pau Gasol puts back offensive rebounds. He keeps the ball high when he gets it down low and goes right up with it. Yi brought the ball down as he gathered himself on those two late fouls, and thus didn’t take full advantage of his height.”

I think the reason Yi keeps the ball low is cuz he protects it with his body. He has very weak hands and if he keeps the ball high and exposed he is prone to losing it before he gets his shot off. Keeping the ball high for a big man is the right way to attack but Yi has a problem with that.

by Mr. Big on Mar 1, 2010 7:16 PM EST reply actions  

Hey breaking news! Yi isn’t that good a player on his rookie contract. Let me repeat it over and over like it I just thought of it!

Haven’t we discussed his already? Over 200 posts of Yi, are we not sick of this?

Get another PF, oh wait, we can’t because we don’t have an owner. duh!

by malorkayel on Mar 1, 2010 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

“Blatche had "record-like" nights the other times he played the Nets. Its no aberration.”

do i have to spell out a sarcasm oh, wait i can’t because it won;t be one if i do…and didn’t i point out blatche was averaging 27ppg after the wizards trades?

by jirohkanzaki on Mar 1, 2010 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

twill was 4/5? i would be happy if he got 3 of 5…i do not hate on twill like other people hate on yi…if someone is a nets player i am a fan…

by jirohkanzaki on Mar 1, 2010 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

“If TWill had the ball 2 feet from the basket, he would have dunked everytime, regardless as to who was trying to foul him.”

twill can’t get 2 ft from the basket bec he can’t shoot…defenders just lay off him so he can’t drive…

by jirohkanzaki on Mar 1, 2010 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

for a more fair assessment of yi head over to the message boards where the more intelligent posters are…

by jirohkanzaki on Mar 1, 2010 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

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