Te Will be gone, soon enough…

twill is doolings successor

Conclusion: FIRE KIKI!

Why isn’t TWILL getting playing time? I think it’s ridiculous Kiki is playing guys like Trenton Hassel over Twill. Hassell is done after this year and the season’s lost, so get the rookie some experience. I can’t wait until Kiki’s gone…

Rookie of the Year? I seriously hope that nobody thought he had any chance to get ROY.

Right now, T-Will should be working to make sure he doesn’t get sent down to the D-League, not worrying about ROY. At the rate he’s playing now, the Nets won’t even make him a third-year offer.

I’ve never defended Yi a day in my life but it’s a first time for everything. Kiki is the one to blame. T-Will has skills the talent is there we’ve all seen it for ourselves. When you have a coach who doesn’t know how to use his players and only focuses on one person it effects the rest of the team. Yi has game he’s talented for a seven footer but he is being overworked and used the wrong way. He should not be starting and getting the minutes he gets he is a bench player but because the coach sees otherwise we all see the bad side of Yi which is alot of bad because of the way the “COACH” uses him.

Now With T-Will it’s the same as CD-R. When played under L.Frank T-will was averaging nearly 10 ppg now under Kiki it’s 3. CD-R was averaging nearly 20 ppg under L.Frank but under Kiki he only averages around 10 with the minutes he gets at that! Let that speak for itself as our players are not to blame even Yi is not to blame. It’s the coach Kiki doesn’t know how to coach it’s that simple.

hes no brainer he only has the athleticism and a lil bit ball handling make room for CDR KIKI!!!!!!!

I’m not a huge fan of T-will, but it’s funny that in a year that’s supposed to be devoted to development, 2 of our 3 most recent draft picks can barely get playing time.

That being said, it was a weird pick to begin with, we had CDR, we traded for Courtney Lee, which I know was after the draft but I imagine they must have at least been in some type of talks prior to it, or at least you could say we had VC, we had a combo guardish type pg in Harris, and so they draft another undersized swingman/weird combo guard type player? Why not Earl Clark, or James Johnson and I know neither has really done anything either so far but it seems like at the time, a long sf with more versatility in the front court would have made more sense.

it would be nice if he had a coach who knew how to use his skill set, but regardless, TWIll needs to hire a shooting coach this summer, and learn to use the glass,
Even if his future is at the point, he needs to force defenders to respect his shot..
I don’t know if he’d want the job, but I’d like to see The Glove hired as an assistant by the next coach to develop TWill and Devo (if he stays).

Ahh, another player doing worse under Kiki. Kiki has ruined CDR and Twill – what young player has gotten better with him as coach? Whose trade value did he increase? O, yeah they didn’t trade anyone.

Do you also notice that 3 of the top 5 rookies are playing on solid teams? It’s amazing how Denver, SA and NO and even Houston over the last couple of years have found some of the better players in the draft.

Seriously This is turning into a lost year all around very scary

I like Twill I think he needs to work on shooting but his defense and the energy he brings his great!

What did Thorn and Kiki and whoever else see in this guy?? Should have drafted Cassippi, Hansborough, Taj Gibson or Dajuan Blair!! Thorn should be fired for many reasons but screwing up on Blair when he went in the second round makes you realy shake your head..

T-Will might turn out to be a nice piece in our future plans. When all is said and done he is still a rookie. Things will look alot different in a few months.

I still believe… Lets go Nets…

Happy shoveling…

Brook is the only “player” we have to show for the last five drafts. NOT A RINGING ENDORSEMENT for the Thorn regime’s drafting. AND looking back over all of Thorn’s drafts, who besides Richard Jefferson has been a winner? AND if YORMARK likes ethnic marketing, why didn’t he make Thorn and KIKI draft Caspi instead of TWILL? Caspi is having an awesome rookie season, and having an Israeli player in the NY/NJ Metro area would have brought in lots of people. TWILL is clearly not a complete player, and his NBA long term potential is really questionable.

Twill is going to be a very good pro. His future is at the point. Don’t get down on him. This year was a lost year from day 1. Next year will be much different. I guarantee u see a lot from cdr and twill next year. Both have promising futures with this team.

Thorn is below average as a GM in drafting players. He had a few nice picks – RJ, Krstic, and Brook (although Brook was a no brainer). But, even taking into account where Thorn drafts, he has not been good.

Clearly, the propoer pick in the 2009 draft would have been DeJuan Blair. Thorn blew it.

I’d go as far to say he is starting at pg next season. His court vision and passing ability is unmatched.

I’m a TWill believer. Good things come to those who wait.

Terrence Williams has everyhing to be molded into a star, athletisicm, strength, height, versatility, quikcness,

T-Will is a multi-talented, dynamic player who has shown glimpses of what he can become. There aren’t many guys in the league with his combination of athleticism, strength, handle, and court vision. Both he and CDR seem to be having issues with their attitudes, but I’m guessing that’s as much due to the crappy situation as anything, and, on a disciplined, well-coached team, that would get corrected.

Yeah, he needs to work on his shot, but so do more than half the rookies who come into the league, including many who go on to be all-stars. It’s a shame that both of them aren’t on the floor more. Let’s hope that they keep them both this offseason, and give them an opportunity to be part of the solution.

A few of you are saying how Twill basically stinks. How do you figure? The only thing I can gather from such views is that you don’t look beyond the stat sheet. Every time I see him out on the floor he gives a ton of athleticism which forces breaks. If you notice, its always when he is on the floor when we are either making a great comeback, and the second he is subbed out we lose a 10 point lead with like 5 min to go or what have you.

I would like to see what he could do, even more so then most of you just suggesting more playing time. I would like to give him a Tyreke Evans sort of role, and have his see if he can just penetrate to the basket every time he touches the ball, because most of the time when he does do that, it ends nicely. Why not spend an entire game just once to something like that? We will lose anyway, at least we can get a glimpse.

“A few of you are saying how Twill basically stinks. How do you figure? The only thing I can gather from such views is that you don’t look beyond the stat sheet.”

You don’t have to look at a stat sheet to know that T-will stinks. All you have to do is see that he misses virtually every time he shoots from beyond 5 feet. If he was 5 feet away from the ocean I doubt he’d be able to throw a ball into it.

I also know that he spent 4 years in college and never improved his shot (even though he was coached by one of the best college coaches in the country). So the idea that he will somehow magically improve his shot sometime soon is ludicrous.

People claiming he stinks truly are not watching the games. He can penetrate at will. He can hit the open man across court. He can rebound in traffic and initiate the break either finishing or hitting an open cutter. Oh he can guard 3 positions on the floor as well. Clearly we should waive him.

@ A.S, like I said I’m no T-will fan I didn’t like the pick at the time and I don’t like it now but I think you’re looking at things wrong. No one’s saying he’s going to magically improve his shot or become a shooter, they’re saying that’s not his game and what he should be doing is driving and distributing, and in a system that asked him to do that he’d be much better. To me the biggest problem with the young players on this time is Kiki is trying to mold them to fit into this system he wants to run them on, rather than working the offense around their individual strengths, so guys like T-will and CDR look worse than they actually are because they’re being asked to do things that don’t fit their skill sets on offense.

I’m not a big TWill fan… to say the least. He’s got some pretty serious (yet subtle) flaws for a player who is hyped as much as he is by Nets fans.

Once there is a new coach who puts Yi in his place (if not traded), everything will be fine. Other than Caspi, I would still take TWill again. He already has a better range and shooting form than he did back in Summer League. He is improving in every part of his game.

TWill’s problems are his immaturity and his lack of an NBA position. Both can be cured, but the former is the bigger problem.

As to why Prokhorov didn’t push Casspi as part of ethnic marketing, it must be noted the first story even mentioning Prokhorov as a potential owner of the Nets appeared on SI.com the day of the draft. Ratner didn’t even meet Prokhorov until a month after the draft. Prokhorov has even said he wasn’t interested in the Nets until he saw the SI.com story. Not sure I believe that.

Of the 29 players listed ahead of TWill in the ESPN rankings, 13 were drafted after him.

By the way, David Thorpe wrote today he still believes Yi can make it big in the NBA. So add him to Kiki. Not sure about Del Harris anymore.

@A.S.

Just because his shot isn’t falling and hasn’t fallen, doesn’t mean that it cant. In college its much different, you spent practice time on other things, then when your done you go back to your dorm and you study, now this off season he will have a chance to improve that as a professional.

And in addition to that, once he does get within 5 feet he is pretty amazing. You draft a guy like this, because IF he does get his shot to come around, he is going to be a nightmare. The draft is a gamble past pick 3 at best, so I have zero problem with taking a risk like this.

ryan243 Says:
February 25th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
“He can penetrate at will.” [and clang a dunk off the rim trying to show off] He can hit the open man across court. [or throw the ball to the other team or out of bounds] He can rebound in traffic and initiate the break either finishing or hitting an open cutter. [sorry, must have missed it, the Nets have been awful on the break]. Oh he can guard 3 positions on the floor as well. [missed that too, have not seen much D from any Net this year]. Sorry to pick on you but that was over the top, I don’t pick on any individual players normally but this team sucks and TWill is a part of that.

@ Tim, I can understand taking a risk like that, IF you don’t already have a combo guard you’re paying 10 million a year, in Harris, and CDR and Lee/Vince Carter, T-Will was just overkill in undersized combo guards/swingmen. It’s kind of like when Atlanta drafted like 4 straight small forwards in a row, sure they all had the potential to be really good, but so did other players available at positions they didn’t already have multiple high upside players at. T-will had the potential to be really good, but so did several other players at positions they we weren’t already crowded at.

@Gina,

Yeah but its like I said, if your at pic 10 or whatever it was we picked at this year, it doesn’t even matter. Its all about luck at that point, not who you need. The Thunder/Sonics did it brilliantly, and drafted basically by position every year and now they have a team full of great players, however, all of those guys are picks VERY early in the draft. Once you get past those picks, if your picking based on roster spots you just are hoping to get lucky and get a guy who can fill in. Most teams will ideally pick for a backup position, like guard and center. Like, I really like Ryan Anderson, but lets be honest, he will never be a starter, so instead of drafting based on what positions we need, I would much rather prefer we gamble, and trade/sign for those said spots instead of hoping to get lucky in a spot.

Unless we have a top pick, then all of that goes out the window!

@ Tim, I understand what you mean. What I’m saying is there were better gambles and players with more upside and more versatility, like Earl Clark, James Johnson that dude from Gonzaga, they all had just as much, if not more, upside than T-will and they’re skill sets and length gave them way more versatility and way more usefulness on an NBA squad.

Well… then again, Twills body and athleticism make him a very big gamble, in the sense that he is a guard. I dont know much about college players now since I find college ball unwatchable(funny coming from a Nets fan eh?)…. but Twill is a super athletic freak of nature, and a guard. I bet they said the same thing, IF he finds a shot, they just won the jackpot.

I’m not looking for just being useful… Boone is useful… I want to find the pot of gold. I can buy useful for pocket change on the streets, like Mikki Moore! Basically I dont like the draft all that much because of its uncertainty(who knew Darren Collison could fill in for CP3 like that?) so you might as well swing for the fences.

“TWilliAM Says:
February 25th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

I’m not a big TWill fan… to say the least. He’s got some pretty serious (yet subtle) flaws for a player who is hyped as much as he is by Nets fans."

the kid can’t shoot, is a decent ball handler, has a knack for passing, can rebound, and is athletic, I don’t understand how Terrence is being overhyped.

Cut the kid some slack. You had people calling him a bust after two months, yet he’s playing on the worst team in NBA history and needs actual coaching and guidance to develop his place in the league and on this team.

No rookie in the league would succeed on the nets this year. The Nets are a dysfunctional organization from the top to the bottom. The nets are going to set the loss record in the age of free agency, now thats horrible.

I tell you the deal that I’d like to make is CDR and TWill and the Dallas pick to the Grizzlies for OJ Mayo and ThaBust i mean Thatbeet.

The Grizzlies were looking to trade Mayo and ThatBust is now in the D-league, not impressive for a 2nd round pick overall. But both the player fit the Nets, OJ Mayo as a great all round player and Thabeet as a backup to Brook who can learn an offensive game while being a defensive game changer.

@Andy
“twill is doolings successor”

Agreed

@NI
I value my opinion of Nets players over the opinion of most ESPN analysts, anyday. I don’t even look for their opinion and would never pay money to be an Insider.
They don’t follow the day to day activities.