Nets Vets Uncertain About Buyouts

Whats the point, for d-leaguers?

Opens roster space for D-Leaguers and others. Dallas worked out Rashad McCants and Von Wafer Friday, for example. It’s audition time.

As a result of lopsided trades some teams have roster spots so the Nets guys could find work.

Well at least we have loyalty from Josh. The last net to show a lot of loyalty was RJ. These guys wanted to be nets and stay nets. That’s rare nowadays, players staying with one team their entire careers. That’s something equally important in a team’s players – a strong character.

Like when you think about how Ilgauskas has been (until recently, but probably not for long) with the Cavs since 1997, it’s pretty crazy. It’s nice to see that especially since it’s so rare now

Keep JB and The Capital, release Simmons and Battie.

“[Vandeweghe] was unsure if Nets president Rod Thorn has conducted such talks…”

The lines of communication are closed.

Dwayne Jones and Morris Almond would be my choices, but who knows who gets released going the other way…and you always forget people…like McCants and Wafer.

They often work players out and we don’t hear about it. They worked out Kareem Rush a couple of years ago. He is a friend of RJ’s. Didn’t sign him. They worked out Maceo Baston. Didn’t sign him.

Boone had a solid game against Charlotte, and his reward was to play 9 and 8 minutes in the next two games while Yi continues to be force fed minutes while playing horribly.

Boone shouldn’t accept a buyout. Why take less money?

Josh has been a good kid. I hope he gets another contract in the league because he has done nothing to be benched the way he has.

Bring back Boki

And I didn’t really get what happened with Marcus Williams. I mean, watching him play during his rookie year, he had the vision. He was able to do some good things. Then after us he got thrown into Nellie’s doghouse. I dunno, he seems like a guy who didn’t get the fairest of chances to show what he can do. If you look at his games this season, when given good minutes he’s been able to put up numbers

@muwu

The Nets also said during Marcus’ first preseason said that he couldn’t guard a bank with a machine gun. The game isn’t all offense. And even when he was playing for a team that’s all offense in Golden State he ended up in the doghouse. Sometimes even the Nets coaches know what they’re doing when they don’t play a guy. Or is Sean Williams tearing up the league and I missed it?

Re Josh and Keyon, two keepers. Mr. Dollar Bills, I totally agree re Josh and Yi playing time. After last night’s game, it should be obvious to management. But, no, Yi will continue to get the playing time (starting, no less!). This is the kind of stuff that drives fans nuts!

Yes, bad defensively, but surely one cannot say that all nba players are good defensive players? Or even moreso good defensive players immediately when they enter the league? Is Stephen Curry or Kevin Love some sort of defensive stalwart?

I really hope Dooling and Boone are going nowhere. Dooling is a great back-up point guard, and Boone is just a decent big man to have around, to grab some boards, and the longest tenured Net. I like those guys, and hope they’ll be with us for the turnaround.

VERY high turnover rate. Out of shape. Not a leader. Nets got a lightly protected first round pick in 2012 and a second pick in 2011 from the team that waived Williams, the second rounder AFTER he was waived. Be grateful.

Another thing is, Al Thornton dropped 21 pts last night in a solid showing in Washington’s win vs. Denver

why did the Nets choose to sit on their hands?

This franchise is a disgrace.

Nets are so cheap they would rather keep all the vets on the bench and not waste any money on D-league’s they got this Russian Billionaire and a very Wealthy Jay-Z who don’t want to waste any money until 2010 free agency.

dnt release them if other teams wanted them they would have offered a good trade for them. i doubt the nets would have denied it if the other team was to offer expiring contracts n draft picks.

Get Simmons the fook outa here

@Christos
How you say something like that if he hasn’t even played since like last year.

Josh Boone is one of the smartest Net players, and has been since he got here. Hope he becomes part of what happens here next year, maybe get 12-18 minutes a game and grab rebounds. This guy is very smart and willing to play clean-up basketball. He also is a good pick and roll player.

Let T.Hassell, B.Simmons and T.Battie all rot on th ebench until the end of the season.
Then it is good-bye forever.

@ jj:

Simmons did play this season. Horribly. If you thought Hayes’ 3-point shooting was bad last night, you should’ve seen BS on any given night earlier in the season. I’d rather have Yi out there running around like a chicken without a head than Simmons glued to the 3-point line daydreaming about all that money he’s making for absolutely nothing.

I don’t understand why they would release Boone, you would think if nothing else he would have some value in a trade package. Like I really can’t wrap my mind around the logic that tells them they should extend Yi but release Boone. Especially since it’s not like we’re loaded down with pf/centers.

Also as far as Williams most reports said he had a lot of work ethic problems and was constantly out of shape.

When in doubt blame it on Kiki.

I Hate Kiki!

I really dig the Boone love here. Good to see that other Nets fans appreciate him too.

It’s not worth buying out Boone. The difference is minimal. If someone is interested in Simmons, the Nets could save a couple of million dollars in a buyout.

My opinion on Boone is that he is not a good player, but he’s certainly good enough to at least be in the rotation on one of the worst teams in the history of the association. I’d keep him and Dooling, let Simmons and Battie walk and only buy-out Hassell if he really wants to leave this mess out of respect for him. I’d expect 2 buy-outs in the coming days, perhaps 3.

Other than doing the player a favor, the only thing the Nets get out of this is money. Personally I think this kind of favor is bad for the integrity of the league and teams should not act on that motive.

With two thirds of the season over, Simmons has about $3.5 million still coming to him. Battie is owed $2.1 million, Hassell $1.4 million, Boone $600,000. Each figure represents the maximum amount the Nets could recoup in a buyout. In general, players are reluctant to give up even half of what they’re owed to get a buyout.

A few million here and there can add up, but for an NBA franchise that’s not a lot of money. If I was GM I would not even consider buying out a player who still might have use this season, such as Dooling, Hayes, Hassell, Boone or Quinn. I would consider it only for Simmons or Battie, and only if they gave up the majority of the money owed to them.

Dooling should NOT be a “release” candidate. He is too good, he is trade only in my mind, and best case scenario, we keep him forever.

Is Bobby Simmons equivocating on a buy-out because he wants the full value of his current contract and doesn’t care about playing for a contender…or even his prospects for another contract (the two are related). Sounds as if he’s ready to retire.

Starting Unit:Dooling, Harris, Hayes, Humpries, Lopez
Bench Unit: Lee, Williams, D-Roberts, Yi, Boone
11th,12th men Hassell and Battie
Has Kiki even put that Bench unit ^ together,its time for Kiki to start experimenting something else. That’s basically Nets future.

Hope Cavs go on a losing streak, Jamison 0-12 in debut, what a dumb move don’t fix something that’s not broken.Jamison is just looking for some payback and make James life miserable.

I agree with Tim. Dooling can really play, and he hasn’t been at 100% all season long. Dooling should be here, and next year too. It’s a luxury to have a more than decent back-up pg.

@pinetar
Normally players will accept between 67% and 75% of what they are owed…as long as they have a new job with a contender that will pay them the vets minimum…no more than $1.05 million pro-rated. So even if there was a team who wanted to take a chance on Simmons, and he was willing to take a loss, there’s no way he would recoup what he lost if he accepted the normal buyout amount.

As for saving a few million, the Nets are still losing $35 million a year. Every little bit helps.

I don’t get why these guys WANT to stay. Why wouldn’t want to be on a team that’s going through the playoffs?

simmon is chillin..collecting his retirement checks lolzz

@ NetIncome

Right. So if each played accepted two thirds due in a buyout, Hassell would return $450,000 and the lesser paid expiring contracts even less. This small savings is not worth it.

I’m okay with buying out Simmons or Battie, however.

Nets currently have a free roster spot to bring up a D-Leaguer. If they wait, they may lose the best opportunity.

However, other NBA teams will be releasing/buying out players during the next week, so Nets need to leave that option open. Normally those players only go to playoff teams. Nets however, need to win 5 more games with a playoff-type urgency.

Nets should buy out either Simmons or Alston ASAP and bring up the best PF available and pray that Yi is injured and needs a rest.

Dooling isn’t a candidate to be bought out now. Nets can wait until June 30. Fortunately Nets didn’t trade Dooling before deadline. Probably because teams didn’t want to take a chance because he is still recovering for surgery.
Maybe Thorn just really likes Dooling and may keep him for next year.

I still predict that Nets will get one good FA this year and one next year. Both Proky and Thorn have hinted at this. In that case, Dooling is a keeper. He could be traded next year if Nets are fortunate to be loaded at PG.

correction – I meant buy out Battie (not Alston) above.

buy out jarvis hayes and josh boone if they would go to the spurs…the spurs need young legs at the sg and backup big man spots and it would help the spurs overtake the mavs in the standings…:)
both are also spurs-type guys…

@Gina…still believing those spin reports, I guess.

If the Nets coaches and management don’t like a guy, they spin stories to make up excuses for not playing them. Look at how they are treating CDR this year. That’s not to say Marcus Williams didn’t have issues because he did (just like CDR does)— but he was also a rookie who didn’t get half the chances to prove himself as, say, the superstar we call Devon Harris.

Some players just don’t catch a break on this team regardless of how good they are…

Bobby Simmons is an inspiration to millions of Americans who are bad at their jobs but expect to be paid much more than they are worth.