Nets Lose Late to Pistons

Devin is BACK!
Devin is better than John Wall tonight (LOL).

Nets and Yi made too many mistakes earlier in the game. Should have been up by 10 pts. at the time of Devin’s rushed shot.

Great game by Harris until he decided to lose the game for us. He needs a shock color that zaps him everytime he thinks about taking a bad shot. Another fantastic game for Yi!!!!!!! 1-12! many of the misses coming at point blank range! woooh!

Yi, lol.

Disappointing loss after disappointing loss

The Nets played hard, they played well, and played with energy for the most part but Detroit was too much for the nets to handle at the end.

Harris played well but severely hurt the nets as he took too many ill advised shots and play some bad D at times. Hamilton abused us at the end. This team needs a perimeter defensive stopper.
Yi was a lot more aggressive today yet still just so bad! He attacked and then did nothing. He did play some good D (kinda) though
Lopez was a monster on the inside! I appreciate his play as well Devin’s but Brook was just simply outstanding. Getting it done on both ends. Harris sort of fell apart towards the end, could not execute successfully.

i thought devin played very well but when he chucked up that 3 pointer from NY he is THE SAME OLD DEVIN UGHHH. Also Yi needs to be benched he will never be good, humphries is so much better he should start. cdr just sucks, lee is ok on some night, lopez and hayes are great! So 4 game road trip coming up, i guess that mean 4 more loses FML!

Devin Harris played offensively like he played the first 2 months of last year. Wow. Unfortunately for the Nets, Harris played defensively like he’s played all of this year – terribly. He was repeatedly beaten down the stretch of the game, and – as Fratello brilliantly telestrated – the Prince dunk off the inbounds play was 100% Harris’s fault.

Devin played great but he cant shoot 3’s

You can clearly see KiKi is not a head coach.
less than 2 minutes left and hayes jacks up a 3 with no attempt to pass the ball to the post??

the win was so close but yet i was so far too…

The next poster who says the +/- stat has any meaning should be barred from the board. Take a look at tonight’s stat sheet for confirmation

TRADE YI AND CDR GET AMARE ASAP

Don’t want to get sick talking about another blown game.

Would rather look at the positive – like Thorn will try even harder and harder to make a good pre-deadline trade if he wants Nets to avoid infamy.

Unfortunately, Yi must be putting Vaseline on his hands and arms so that no team will take him! 1/12, 4 turnovers and couldn’t even finish a dunk with the ball under the basket.

@Ben i so agree. Yi played terribly and CDR played uninspired. And i have been seeing alot of terrible and unispired play from these two.

Can I just say that Yi has some of the worst hands of any player. I can’t count how many times I’ve seen Yi stripped effortlessly by the defense or Ian Eagle say “Yi misses from POINT BLANK range”…

and Harris…man from runner up to “shot of the year” to “down right worst non-clutch shot of the year”

Can anyone please tell me why Yi is in the NBA

Yi needs to man up. I guess Brook also told Yi to miss every shot so he could make himself look better right?

Why is the best coach for the Nets in the booth. Fratello should come down and take a stab at this mess.

Kiki’s system of accountability is really ##’d up. If any other player besides Yi had performed like he did today, that player would be shoveled to the the bench instantly(see CDR). What a great way to lose the players. And did CDR forget something called off-ball movement?? Comon CDR…

Well after this last of several winnable games, looks like theres going to be a brutal string of losses around the corner.

@ Sparklespice – I also agree.

Why oh why is Brook taking jumpers at the end of the game?

am i the only one who thinks bobby simmons should get a shot at it and start playing he is a great shooter

NOO! i want ran anderson and redick for Yi, ive been saying this for a while! A deal involiving this year is perfect for us! we could also try

Bass, anderson, rdick for Yi, Lee or CDR, ad Boone

no lee instead of Chris douglas roberts

“am i the only one who thinks bobby simmons should get a shot at it and start playing he is a great shooter”

…thanks to cross-court passes from VC

@Danny Brook took 1 jumper as the game was winding down that he missed. He took another one and he made it. I don;t think that was the problem. The problem was that brook was getting bothered by the smaller detroit pistons and he turned the ball over 3 times. Otherwise i thought he looked good and played solid defense.

@Tom F i would love The Czar to take over this team. Yeah Harris did take some ill advised shots but he got us back into the game 4 times down the floor in a row. The whole 4th quarter he killed it. Anyone notice how many assists he had also? He was real good tonight. He was the reason we were in the damn game. Unfortunate that Keyon couldn’t play tonight bc his defense was needed for sure. Anyway I watched 4 games in a row down to the wire which is rare for the nets. I usually turn it off in the 4th quarter because we are down by 20. Lets trade Yi, CDR, Whoever else and dalls pick for Amare please. Resign Amare to some good money. AT WORST our lineup will be
Devin, Lee, Hayes, Amare and Brook w/ Hump, Twill, Jarvis off the bench PLUS a top 4 draft pick. That team could make the playoffs. Brook one day will be a guy who can carry a team on his own. Lets go nets fans enough of this negativity everyday.

@ i

You can post about your trade until your fingers turn blue. Next year’s starting lineup is Harris, Lopez, Yi, and two upgrades. As they used to say on Hawaii 50 – “Bookit Danno”

Simmons is good at stepping out of bounds.

No chance of Yi movin to Orlando for Anderson and Reddick

…reddick is playin some great ball over there…tons of teams want him

..and if the Orlando Magic wanted Yi we could just send them a whole bunch of butter to lather up on Ryan Anderson’s hands before every possession.

NO Amare! Nets Insider already nixed the Amare idea.

However, the good news for anyone not watching the KY game is that Demarcus Cousins is now a definite top 4 pick, other than his attitude questions.

Announcers said Cousins could be drafted 2nd to Wall, even before his dominating performance. (I disagree because Turner is the most sure thing at this time).
Cousins has been more of a positive factor than Wall for at least 5 straight games for KY!

Cousins is like the young (but bulkier at 275) Amare and a better defender.

Question is could Demarcus exist along side BLopez. Brook may play the PF role, but Demarcus could defend anyone.

However, in no way could I see Demarcus getting along with Yi without starting a fight. He was demanding the ball (immediately) in tonight’s game.

With Nets having a 36% chance to get the #4 pick, taking Cousins would mean the free agency would have to go in a different direction from getting DLee.

Yeah Cousins has been very impressive..

His footwork drivin in is real nice. I’d like to see him finish stronger more often though…

I think he’s definitely worth considerin @ 4 and @ 3 if Turner’s off the board.

by the time they figure out how to close out a game the season will be over

The highlight was Hump ripping the ball out of Yi’s hands on the rebound. Yi doesn’t even get respect from his own team.

this team is going to win under 9 games tonight.

Ryan Anderson would be perfect as a role player for the Nets next year as their shooting PF, to complement Hump and DLee/Cousins.

Boy did Thorn blow the Carter trade – if only Yi instead of Ryan, then Nets would have about 10 wins now. I would even give a future 2nd round pick along with Yi, to get Ryan back.

There was no reason, no good god damn reason why Yi played as many minutes as he did. This guy flat out sucks. I was supportive of Yi early this season when the tin man had some heart, but now he is just flat out trash. A SOFT, 7 foot useless sack of garbage.

CDR made the most of his minutes tonight. This guy here, oh boy. He looked like he did not give a rat. This kid has completely mailed it in and frankly i’m disgusted. Thorn needs to find a taker for him in a deal or someone needs to let him have it because his effort tonight was pitiful. He just doesn’t deserve to play at this point. They should test his chin a bit and hit him with a few DNP’s like they did to T-Will and lets see if his attitude changes. His body language, energy, everything just sucked.

Harris’ was awful in the last 3-4 mins of that game. He played well for the most part, he was energetic and was making some decent passes but as usual, his lack of discipline and basketball IQ pissed all of that away when it counts. He’s a bum, and other than that block he had on the swedish dude, his defense was GARBAGE.

Yi, CDR, and Harris all need to be flipped for something better

Lee had a good game offensively and was hustling on d. If Lee would do this 4 out of 5 nights I would have no problem with him

I, for one, would like to know what happened to Bobby Simmons. He shot 45% from 3-point land last year, but this year only 32%. What happened to his shot???

Blame YI, Harris and kiki. Twill should have played more. Yi is a human sucking machine and kiki doesnt know whats going on with his substitution patterns.

losing VC is what happened to Bobby…no VC = no open looks

Simmons’s shot has always been on and off his whole career. In addition to losing the free set-ups from VC

EVAN TURNER

Why can’t Yi ever catch the ball cleanly, without bobbling it?

I don’t understand this!

Anyone able to see the Syracuse game?

Apparently, Wesley Johnson had another good game, but the highlight was leaping fall, which left him uninjured fortunately.

Pending Cousin’s attitude problem (similar to KMart), WJohnson or someone else is the remaining homework assignment for the Nets first pick. (after Turner and Wall)

KY has 2 or 3 other players that the two Scouts could be evaluating for consideration for the Nets other 2 draft picks.

I rather have a healthy dooling running the point over harris anyday. you see more flow in the offense and better perimeter D! Harris not calling out that backpick on the last prince play was absurd!

Please let us get turner in the draft and package harris and yi for something decent in return. This guy is terrible.

Yi is a lost cause. He may have worse hands than kwame brown. I rather have eddy curry playing pf at least he can catch and finish.

Brook had 13 pts in the 1stQ. He should have ended up with 40.
Too many jumpshots vs a team with NO 7 footer!
Yi?
I guees Del Harris had enough of KiKi too!

yi has zero trade value….

Yi sucks. So what’s new? Yi sucks so bad, his biggest supporter Del Harris just gave up and walked away.

Notes from watching this game:

1. CDR is a bum. This guy has clearly mailed it in and as far as i’m concerned he is perfect trade bait.

2. Yi sucks. He sucks not because he can’t shoot, which he can, he sucks because he has THE WORST HANDS i’ve seen since keith van horn AND he’s insanely soft, i’ve heard enough about his aggressiveness.

3. Harris played very well tonight but that last shot was extremely poor.

4. Play calling down the stretch was again pitiful.

please for the love of god john wall…

Wes Johnson is just as good a turner if not better in some areas.
Jumper, rebounding, defense
Id take either one 2-4

@ i

Sorry about being realistic. Actually, I am a strong Nets fan. Management’s plan could work, sort of. If you surround Yi with upgrades, he can linger at 15-20 foot and make open jumpers. Then, the upgrades can cover for his “defense.” It really won’t be so bad if the upgrades for CDR, Lee, and T-Will are for real.

Wes Johnson > Evan Turner

The only thing that Yi is better than Ryan at, is his “length” advantage, that gets an occasional block or intimidation (and Ryan is probably almost 4 years younger than Yi).

People say that Harris would want to leave if the Nets took Avery Johnson as coach. O disagree. IMO, Harris would be more upset if Nets traded for someone like Iggy. AI#2 would become the team leader, and he doesn’t appear to have lots of respect for Devin. That would be a problem.

@djheavyduty:

Turner is averaging 10 RPG as a PG! Yes, Johnson may be better at multiple jumping under the basket, and may be stronger than Turner, but Evan is a natural outside shooter, better passer. Turner is more complete and a Sure Thing. He can play 1 2 or 3, whereas Wesley is only a SF who plays like a quick PF.

Wish they would show more Ohio State games. I would like to watch them more, so welcome other comments.

A fun game to watch tonight….Mr.Dollar Bills comments about Yi are funny although Yi was playing hard again but he did hurt his widdle shoulder but came back……Yes , I think CDR has quit (mentally) this team…And I think that Del Harris quit because he thought that all these nasty comments on this site about D.Harris were about him……Actually Devin played well tonight also…..

I watched Lost tonight instead of going to the game. Glad I did.

no to Wesley Johnson for me…i dont believe he is stronger than Turner.

Plus Turner has a more complete game…Turner’s got game.

Man that VC trade is looking worse every time Yi stinks it up.
Losing RAnderson hurts this team

Just got back. There was no reason what so ever for Yi to play as many minutes as he did. What was kiki thinking letting him take that last shot.

I’ve been critical of CLee before but today he played hard on every play. I give himn credit for his effort, maybe he is not a lost cause. CDR TWill and Yi cannnot be a part of the future of this team,especially CDR!

Evan turner and wes johnson are the same heoght and weight.
Both average 9 rebs. Evan more assists but johnson is a better shooter and Syracuse is #4 in the country

nets could never hold there lead they need a guy that can take over games and hold leads stephen jackson is good at that

Nets were leading in the 4th by 4 points with about 2 minutes to go and they choke again lol…

The thing about Wall is, I can’t see putting him on THIS Nets team would turn them around. Wall would need better players and I don’t see moving Devin to SG. Devin is already great at finding BLopez, and Wall would be a duplication.

Nets would have to get a couple of other nice pickups to make Wall a Star.

Would rather take Turner, who would make things happen on his own, and keep Devin, if he can play like tonight.

I like Wesley’s shot….but his handling leaves much to be desired. We already have a few players on this team who cant handle the ball.

I’m tired of all the nets bashing going on around here.

The nets were built this season to do just this, play the young players and be competitive while having the chance to get a high draft pick.

Sports fans are supposed to be homers to the teams they support.
There are already enough people (ESPN,other NBA fans,wade ,etc…) bashing the nets.

“Ispartan Says:
February 2nd, 2010 at 11:05 pm

I watched Lost tonight instead of going to the game. Glad I did."

Me too. It was awesome.

BTW, this team sucks!!!

@ Jerry25

As much as I think Turner will be an all star caliber player in this league and perhaps our pick if we do not get lucky with the first pick, we still could not pass on John Wall. Wall is exactly what we need! A true point guard who makes everyone better and one that can also take over a game offensively need be. He would be our better scoring, more athletic Jason Kidd. I would move Devin over to the 2 if he is still with us. We can still also pickup a free agent for one of the forward positions, regardless, if we can’t get one of the max guys.

CDR only got 9:45 minutes of playing time I mean what you guys thought you were going to get from him.

Lol at comparing j-kidd’s vision and passing ability to wall’s… Clearly someone hasn’t been watching much of wall. Wall can distribute but I don’t think he would be a pg in the NBA … More like a combo guard playing at the 2

Attended the game tonight and it was depressing on so many levels. Hadn’t been there since the Dallas game when there was a shred of hope as Lawrence was finally on his way out. Things have gotten so much worse across the board since then. Any remaining atmosphere at my beloved Meadowlands is gone – they barely have any souvenirs left to sell!! Was hoping to get something bearing the words “New Jersey” on it but very little (if anything left) in that regard. The shelves were barely stocked and it was truly a ghost town. I am still astonished even 7 or 8 thousand are showing up to support Ratner’s cause at this point.

The team redefines atrocious. The Pistons, other than the late spurt by Rip were BEGGING to get beaten and the Nets somehow let them off the hook. Yi is hideous – absolutely awful!!! He was the main reason we couldn’t compete last year and he is one of the main reasons we are now headed to the worst record in league history. I would rather see ANYONE out there other than him. For goodness sake, Josh Boone definitely deserves minutes over this bum – at least he tries!!! Just an awful and saddening night as New Jersey Nets Basketball continues to fade into the sunset.

Ratner – you are THE WORST.

Devin played great D… was in the Defenders face in every play. Even had 2 blocks.

Yi is just flat out horrible. I used to like him, I thought he had upside. I am officially tarnished on Yi.

at twill fan:

“The Nets were built this season to do just this, play the young players and be competitive while having the chance to get a high draft pick.”

Once again let me remind you and any one else that still thinks this way – NO PROFESSIONAL sports team should ever be built to set the league futility mark. The fact that this team is likely to win 7 or 8 games is an absolute disgrace and if we weren’t completely bashing management for giving us this utter train wreck, we wouldn’t have a pulse as a sports fan.

“While Cousins is without a doubt a precocious talent with the type of physical tools and scoring instincts that you rarely see at the college level, there are many question marks revolving around whether he has the intangibles needed to reach his extremely high potential. His body language and overall temperament on the floor is often very poor, looking somewhat lazy and disinterested and at times downright selfish. He’s clearly not the smartest guy you’ll find on or off the court, and he already tends to react very poorly to different situations on the floor and lose his temper in concerning fashion. ". Cousins won’t help us, it’s his 2nd or 3rd team that he’ll help

Nets need Ricky Rubio….

Yeah yi sux..I hope he get better…your whole Nets team sux… regardless yi shot 1-12…But Nets were in the game leading by 4points with 2 minutes to go and choke! lolz

Yi has worse hands than Kwame Brown.

the nets also need to learn how to BOX OUT, for cryin’ out loud. So many missed opportunities and extra possessions for the Pistons because of offensive rebounds. Brook is a beast on offense, but he needs to get much tougher on the glass. Too many off. rebounds for the Pistons tonight

Ti had horrible hands tonite and couldnt shoot. When he’s shooting normally, he is much better. his jumper passes through the exact middle of the hoop without touching rim — same with his foul shots when he’s on. He defended pretty well (for him) tonite: helped, intimidated, altered shots. A bad off nite for him but still better than a typical nite last year.

Yi Van Horn

Cong,4-44!
Yi sucked as usual?Well,easy to predict.

1-3 in the easiest stretch of the season… Here comes worst record of all time!

Yi certainly did not have a good game, yet let me change the topic. How is it that Jarvis was able to get so many shots without being told by MGT that he should not shoot and simply has to pass the ball inside to the post men. Is this restriction only limited to CDR?

With coaching or lack of it, being one of our obvious problems, how does Del Harris leaving make us any better?
It makes us worse, really. I had this game against Detroit as a win for us in the schedule. Devin played pretty well, but shot distribution is still poor, and YI threw up a stinker in a game we could have won. Trade deadline is in two weeks, will we get help, or will we have to wait till the off season…

To some previous posts… Yes lost was awesome!! Its funny that the only thing that i have more questions than the final season of lost…is the dismal future that is the nets…lol get amare now

The Tayshan Prince dunk was the same play they Nets lost to a few weeks ago. Same play on the inbound!! I forget which loss, they are all the same anymore. But, don’t you think Kiki or someone!! would have figured this out by now! It so hard to be a Nets fan, but just think how hard it is to be a Net player. I don’t know if I can watch this anymore.

I blame the coach 100% on this. We lost the lead because everyone chucked up a shot wanting to be a hero. The coach should have dug it into their heads what to do. We had like 4 min left, and they were over the limit… then 4 out of the 5 guys on the floor each took a shot 15ft and beyond, and NOTHING closer. Thats the coaches fault 100%

And Yi is the best ‘hot potato’ player I have ever seen.

Issac: I agree re Josh Boone.

Del Harris leaving pretty much sums up the Yiki experiment. The Nets season should be the sequal to the show LOST. It should be called LOST CAUSE.

I think the Nets have been playing pretty good, for a team that has no coach, real PG, and plays young, inexperienced players. One thing I know, none of us will ever forget this season, no matter how much we would like to.

Keep the faith… Lets go Nets…

Yi makes my day. Like watching a hackneyed horror movie, you know exactly what’s gonna happen next, and it unfolds just as you predict. Oh, good times.

On that Detroit inbounds under the basket, when Prince caught it and dunked: were the Nets the only ones not EXPECTING them to try that? Before the ball was inbounded I just watched the empty space under the basket, saw Prince step into it and dunk. That was the dagger.

I wonder if Brian Hill drew that up, knowing how the hapless Nets would defend the inbound? Has anyone noticed how often “hapless” is used in the print media before the word “Nets”? Next year we have to get some “hap”!

via netsarescorching

“I thought Courtney Lee also had a nice all-around performance, finishing with 15 points, 5 rebounds and 3 steals. He was 3-4 from three pointers, his one miss coming with less than a minute to go. But I thought he was very active on the defensive end, doing the best you can do against a guy like Rip Hamilton who just moves so well without the ball. There seems to be a lot of hand-wringing over the benching of Chris Douglas-Roberts with some fans asking why CDR got demoted over Courtney Lee. I honestly think it’s games like last night’s that keep Courtney in the coaching staff’s good graces. He very quietly does a lot of little things that help the team win.”

And people wanna say CDR’s not scoring because Yi’s getting everything when jarvis hayes replaces him and gets to put up 10 shots?

Should have traded Yi two weeks ago when people thought he was a good player. Boy has he shrunk into nothing. He is such a soft player. Who would take him now? Biggest problem we have (besides having a bunch of role players and no PF or SF) is we have no one at the end of a game to sink a basket or step up and make a shot or get a big charge or rebound. They used Hamilton so effectively. We have Lopez and harris, but they are not go to guys yet.

This isn’t fantasy basketball, the season is veryyy long. And we’ve already picked up Yi’s option so he’s under contract for next year as well. Plenty of time and interest won’t fade that fast. GM’s won’t be interested in Yi to make him a superstar, they’re out for him to be a complementary piece.

No way do we get rid of Yi, CDR, Lee, Harris or T-Will unless it improves our team. These players are not AS BAD AS THEY LOOK NOW. Put Yi on a better team and he would probably fit right in. Same goes for the rest. Our players have not learned to play as a team. Five individuals out there with five different games and agendas.

yi < cheese burger

ill only take wes johnson over turner if he comes with another top ten pick in a trade. Iike Wes but Turner is a beast

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Mmm cheeseburger. Can we sell some nets players to mcdonalds for a season of free food? That’ll sell out the arena

oh yeah btw CDR is done and he is begging for a trade. its sad cause i rather him lose then win rigt now cause once he gets traded of course the team that trades for him is gonna be better then us. hes gonna play better and its not fair to the nets. so let him lose who cares about him dont do a him. dont do him a favors by trading him to a playoff team.

What if we throw in half of our assets for Iggy? Something like Courtney Lee, CDR, Yi, Battie for Iguoadala and take back Brezec and Jason Smith with him.

THEN we throw the other of our assets at Indiana for Danny Granger. Terrence Williams, and I’m talking BOTH of our first round picks, yes even our first one for Mr. Granger.

Harris
Iguodala
Granger
________
Lopez

Fill in that blank with pretty much anyone who can get us 10+ boards a game and play some defense and we’re set.

@Dirt;

 Sounds good, but if we get rid of Lee, Yi and CDR, who’s going to be are whipping boy? Harris? He’s no fun to pick on cause he couldn’t care less.

there was one source that led to this loss, its one word two letters…. YI. International Garbageeee

Lee needs to play like that every night. He was very active last night though. It seems like his defense gets even more intense when he is hitting shots.

How does one lose a game when you have a team over the foul limit with about 5 minutes lefts in the game? And you’re ahead.

Gosh, damn you Devin for not playing the perfect game! Let’s all pile on Devin again and demand a trade!