Thank you, Jesus. There is hope for us after all.

He’s pretty over rated

Finally, I got some support. I was telling this for some time now…..

Looks like Harris is just to be a trading chip this summer regardless of what happens.

Would someone please FIRE KIKI already???

Hollah!

Gee, I wonder who the source of this article could be? I would guess the same agent who represents Yi Jianlian, Rafer Alston, Kris Humphries, Eduardo Najera, Courtney Lee and Jarvis Hayes. Just a guess.

wow… that would be totally awesome… rubio is a great talent as well….

talk about the Nets really trying to be international .. Think about the European, Russian, and Chinese markets for the Nets (well if Yi is still in uniform) … but seriously… they can be the best international NBA team out there… International companies would be lined out the door for sponsorship…. wow

who are we trying to be? the raptors?

lol, how can we be the best international team, when we are the worst American team! Give me John Wall!

obviously justin we are praying for John Wall…. nobody said otherwise

raptors arent even in the USA lol

depends on what we give up for him. great talent but still unproven. if we pick up evan turner theres NO WAY we should let him go for Rubio but his play making ability and understanding of the game are very VERY special and shouldn’t be overlooked just because of his abysmal european numbers.

I would be happy with Wall, Rubio or Turner, thrilled in fact.

At this point any could help. Rather have Wall, but beggars can’t be choosers.

If the Nets trade this year’s draft pick, whether its 2, 3, or 4, for Ricky Rubio, Thorn is dumber than I thought he is.

1. Wall
2. Turner
3. Rubio

However, Rubio would not really help that much because he can’t shoot. I never seen him before in a real game, just clips and looking at stats. But I am just skeptic how he will make this team better and bring FA to play here.

maybe wall please? rubio is overrated and hes a small kid. hes still needs to visit fitness gym few times, no chance against present pgs in nba, they would abuse him

Ray Rotto is an ignorant clown.

@netsfan

Rubio is 6’5" and what fat point guards are you talking about?

I hope this is a joke. That pick is the most untouchable asset we have, IMO. Even if we end up with 3rd/4th pick, we could still have a shot at Turner.

Rubio is overrated, and there’s no way he’s coming here before 2011, no matter what Mannix says about trying to negotiate a buy out after this season. His team paid a lot of money and they aint letting him go after just one season. One of the reasons why he isnt in the NBA right is because he didnt want to pay his buy out last summer. He will just wait until 2011. And he will not be that good, mark my words.

We trade for Rubio and he refuses to come, just like Minnesoata. Minnesota get s the one pick, Wall, and the two, Turner, and come back with

Wall
Flynn
Jefferson
Love
Turner

We come back with

Harris
Lee
Lopez
Yi
CDR

Don’t do it KIKI!

Wall and Turner….I have not seen him play on tv yet so NO for now.

Seen Rubio play quiet a bit, he is a talent and I like his game, but im not sure he is what the Nets need right now. I think he still needs some developing and physical growing up to do. Nets really need impact players from the get go next season to stop a mass suicide of the fan base. Might be too much of a risk right now for the Nets.

What? Did someone say Donald Fegan?
Did someone say ‘franchise-saving point guard?’
C’mon, sing it with me:
“Bodhisattva, won’t you take me by the hand?
Bodhisattva, won’t you take me by the hand?”

God please no!

rubio is going to be a big letdown. please give us wall or evan turner or chris paul via trade.

as much as some people complain about devin’s defense, i think half of the posters here would be on suicide-watch after seeing rubio try to defend. in the games i’ve seen he consistently fails to stay in front of his man. it’s almost comical.

Turner is becoming a favorite…hes a smooth scorer…i hope we land him.

@sonny
that is plain silly.

Kahn really does not want to trade Rubio. If we get stuck with the 3 or 4 pick, we need Minnesota to be picking 1st

If we land #1 – you gotta go with Wall not only because of his talent but also because he’s the most enticing for other teams around the league who could possibly be looking to trade big for him.

If we land #2 – Turner without question.

If we land #3 or #4 – Nets should definitely explore a trade for Rubio

It would be great if we could ship Harris out to Minnesota without even having to trade our pick to grab Rubio. Then pick up D-Lee and a serious perimeter threat in FA.

Rubio / C Lee / Gay (eeh) / D Lee / Brook

…thats some nice offense for Rubio to work with…defense is another story.

Rubio won’t be looking so good once NBA guards start bodying up his twilight-like frame. I mean really, Tyreke Evans would mop the floor with him

Even if we ended up with the 4th pick, it’d be absolutely insane to trade it for Rubio. I wouldn’t trade Devin for him straight up either. And again, he’s not coming until 2011, no matter what Mannix says.

Minnesota will not take Harris for Rubio, they already have their PG in Flynn and possibly Wall.

If we get screwed out of the first two picks and no one wants to let us trade up to get Evan Turner, i guess it’d be okay to go after Rubio. He doesn’t impress me at all though. I’d rather have Turner, who would be a solid player for us to add with Lopez.

If the Wolves get Wall, they will trade the rights to Rubio, but the Nets will not give up Harris for a kid’s draft rights.

This Harris hate is completely out of hand.

And perhaps just perhaps, as has been reported, the Nets would like to see Wall and Harris TOGETHER. I assume the same would be true of Rubio and Harris. These two kids are NINETEEN years old and although Rubio has been playing professionally since he was 15, no one can know how he (or Wall) is going to do out of the gate. And considering the style both play—and their yet-to-be-strengthened bodies—they are as likely if not more likely to be as injury prone as Harris.

I can imagine a scenario where if the Wolves get the #3 and the Nets #4, the Nets simply trade their two picks for Rubio’s rights.

And what is lost in all this is that one of the top young players in the WORLD has the Nets “high on his list” in spite of everything.

I have never seen Rubio play other then in the Olympics, but I did watch ever single game… I must say, who gives? He did absolutely NOTHING! He was a no show! He cant play D if his life depended on it.

Rick Rubio is the closest to the likes of JKidd but I don’t know his defense, heart and stamina. If the Nets can get him instead of Wall at this point, it’s a no-brainer.

And to comment on Harris being “injury prone,” since its being brought up so much…

Best PG in the league, CP3… how much time has he missed this year, and now going away for 2 months for knee surgery?

The second best, Derron… how much time did he miss last year with a high ankle sprain, and now this year again with all sorts of various ailments.

Injuries are a part of the game, get over it!

Trade both of their 1st rounders for Rubio??? Screw that.

So Net Income -

You would trade both our first rounders – including one which is the 3rd or 4th pick of the draft (likely a future all star) for Rubio’s draft rights, but you think trading Harris straight up for Rubio is absurd? Man, the Harris hate may be out of hand, but some are letting Harris love blind themselves. Harris is in no way shape or form worth more than the 3rd or 4th overall selection in the draft, let alone for the that pick and another pick in the 20s. If the Nets could swap Harris for Rubio, they would do so without thought. In fact, there were reports last draft that they were trying to do just that. After Harris’ terrible year this year, I would think the Nets would absolutely jump at the opportunity to swap Harris for Rubio.

i hate we have to wait until may…the lottery is going to be intense…im going to be mad nervous…evan turner please!!!

I have advocated for this to happen on pervious post. Out of the big three Wall,Turner, and Rubio I think Rubio is most ready. He has played against the best competition outside the Nba since he was 15!! He was on the silver medal olympic squad in 2008. I would prefer Wall over Rubio but Rubio is not a bad choice.

The Rubio idea sounds like a good back-up plan. Although I would like to see Devin healthy first before closing any doors.

Rubio’s got the vision, but he won’t be able to score unless it’s a jump shot. He can’t take it inside and finish at this point. Not to mention you can tell he’s 19 from his body. Most NBA guards will be able to bully him physically. But still, the vision’s there.

Wall’s still a better prospect for me. He has a half court game the needs proving, and needs to be less turnover prone. but his athleticism is amazing. He has a higher ceiling than Ricky Rubio to me.

Besides, nets fans would give rubio the Yi treatment, calling him soft for any reason whatsoever. Because nets fans are manly men, and manly men only grab manly rebounds, uncontested rebounds aren’t even worth counting and recording anymore. They also only shoot manly tough shots, open shots don’t count. Manliness! Roar!

Only time will tell…….Does Prokhorov control time ????

Once again I’m amazed by the comments here. You CAN’T swap Harris for Rubio. Because who is your trade partner? The Wolves. And why would the Wolves be interested in Harris? Come on people, everyday some of you come up with trades that doesn’t make sense to the other team. Think!

I hope we land either the #1 or 2.

If we luck out and get the #2, I would still try to get Rubio from T-Wolves.

I would draft turner at #2 play him at SG. Trade for Rubio. We dont need him to shot. We need him to distribute. With the right coach, rubio will learn to play decent D. He is quick enough to learn to move his feet. If we can get rubio without trading Harris, then good. Then we can try to trade him to another team for a PF/C. If not I would trade Harris for Rubio.

It is not that Harris isnt good. Harris isnt the PG we need. We need someone that is going to run a team. Harris isnt that type of PG. Harris cant even do a proper Pick and Roll. I like Harris but IMO he isnt going to work here.

rubio is a BUM. he’s the most over rated basketball player ever. his game is sloppy n he plays slow. he’ll b a bust.

Lol of course he has the Nets “high on his list” they play in the NY media market. He doesn’t care about the team, just the NY area. Rubio would be a waste of time. He knew he prob wouldn’t be able to beat out Flynn so he stayed in Europe, so what does that tell you? Minnesota had pretty much worked out enough endorsements to pay his buyout and he still ran back instead of coming to compete for the starting PG job. No heart, no thanks. Not to mention he has like zero offensive game and his defense prob wouldn’t be that good in the NBA either, at least for a while. So basically you’d get a guy who could pass but almost nothing else while u wait for him to develop. Rubio is over-rated, I would say no unless u get him for a bag of skittles

Giving up the #4 pick for Rubio would be a disaster.

Please read:

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/ricky-rubio

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ricky-Rubio-1155/

He is more of a PG of JKidd type, not a scorer but a distributor. That is what we need, a good PG if we get some decent FA with Brook. I’ve seen him play on NBA TV and he reminds me of JKidd, crazy passes and sees the floor well.

I also agree that we should not trade Harris even if we get Wall. A player like Harris is always easier to trade and don’t forget how he played for Dallas. He was one of the best defenders when he was there so it is not that he cannot play D. We need a D-minded coach like Avery or JVG to kick his butt and get off the pedestal.

No matter who we draft, I think Devin Harris needs to work on his outside shot to be an integral part of this teams future. Continuing to run full speed into the lane will prove to be an unwise career decision. If he were to develop his outside shot and still have that ability to drive into the lane on tap, he would be a much more effective offensive player and more suited to be an NBA shooting guard, which seems like the position Harris may find himself at on the offensive end of the court.

A great player mold would have to be Jeff Hornacek, who was listed at 6-3, 190. It would take a lot of work and effort to change the shape of his game, but I think Devin Harris is smart enough to think outside the box and understand what he needs to do to make full use of his gifts and extend his career.

With that said, Rubio and Harris could be the next Stockton and Hornacek.

Did someone say Donald Fegan?
Did someone say Point Guard franchise savior?
“One more time:!”

“Bodhisattva, won’t you take me by the hand”

“Bodhisattva, won’t you take me by the hand”

Seriously, we’d probably get more than just Rubio in a #1 deal.

@Dirt
I appreciate where you are going but Hornacek was an elite shooter and Harris’ jumper is busted. Harris should work on improving his shot but he will never be as good of a shooter as Hornacek.

@Dirt Devin harris will never reach the mold of Hornacek. Harris’s shot selection is not good, and harris will never be as good of a shooter as him.

True. Those would be the tapes I would make him watch and want him to emulate. At the end of the day he’s still going to be Devin Harris.

@tu vieja: your comment about Rubio is embarrassing. Rubio a bum? I mean, you know what he done so far in his young career; so whatever happens in the NBA, you can’t call him a bum.

http://thepaintedarea.blogspot.com/2010/01/checking-in-on-ricky-rubio.html

^^decent article on rubio.

Watching the footage, what catches me the most is his ball handle, aggressiveness on defense, and his wicked passing ability.

But if the kid can’t shoot, and as the article writer states can’t finish to save his life, those are major red flags, as well as his strength.

I’d prefer Wall or Turner at this point. I don’t know if we should jump the gun trading the 3 or 4 pick either for this kid.

Still, he is an intriguing prospect. I don’t know if his skills will translate well at this level, but intriguing nonetheless. The way he is able to split double teams is flat out insane, dude’s dribble looks sloppy at first but that’s deceptive. His handle is serious.

I have learned a valuable lesson here…that anyone who plays for the Nets or wants to play for the Nets is a “bum”. Anyone who doesn’t want to play for the Nets is a potential “star”.

Rubio, who is not a “bum” and who is NOT underrated, says he wants to play for the Nets. So he must automatically be consigned to the trash bin of history. His desire to join the Nets cannot be sincere. He just wants to play in New York instead of Minnesota. Who doesn’t?? Wall, who has publicly spoken about how “awful” the Nets are—without any of the caveats about the future, etc, must be better. Has to be. He “hates” the Nets.

Courtney Lee is a “bum”. Devin Harris? “Bum”. Yi has long been a “bum”…in both Mandarin and Cantonese, in both traditional and simplified Chinese. Soon, Kris Humphries will be a “bum”. He wants to stay.

Any by that, players that are hating it on the nets or doesn’t play is an allstar being held back by the stupid management/kiki/frank/other players/etc aka CDR, Sean Williams. Sooo, Sean was gonna sign with a real time who’ll realize his brilliance and show us what we missed out on?

*team

Oh come off of it, now you’re just being over dramatic. Harris and Lee stink. Period. You can defend them all you want but their god awful play this season will continue to make you look bad. Yi, after a good start, has been stinking up the gym. CDR has been stinking up the gym. This team is a mess. You feel offended about Wall saying that the Nets are “awful”? Why? It’s the truth, isn’t it? This team is awful. This franchise has been mismanaged. Stop overreacting because people aren’t swooning of Ricky Rubio like you are.

I don’t think Rubio is a bum but the concerns others have about him are legitimate. You rave about him as if he’s flawless…he’s not. I also have my doubts.

It’s fair to be frustrated with the atrocious drafting and crappy trades this team has undergone during the past decade. Finding effective role players has been the Net’s achilles heel. Antoine Wright, Cliff Robinson, Jamal Magliore, Sean Williams, Marcus Williams, Jeff McGinnis, Mile Illic, on and on and on.

rubio wants to be a knick

wall or die

“Give me Wall, or give me death!”

@ Matt and JJ: that’s a 75% chance of a mass suicide on draft day! Don’t do it!!!!

I would prefer to watch Rubio over Wall to be honest. That’s just my opinion though.

Look at what the Lakers offered us for Harris… nothing…

I believe the Nets will trade Harris as soon as a “good” offer comes around. The Nets won’t just give him away. Not yet, anyway.

Any decent point guards available in free agency???

Look at Rubio’s stats. How is HE the savior?

Why talk about Rubio?
We still need a backup center, starting power forward, small forward and a backup shooting guard.
J.Wall and R.Rubio just don’t make it here for the Nets.
Can we learn to say;
C.Aldrich, E.Turner, W.Johnson and D.Cousins.
The above four talents of need will be very good stars in the NBA.
Magic Johnson was talented and young, however, the team was also very talented for him to walk into and do it.
Ask yourself, with the above need positions do you think the Nets are near?

The lakers are the con men of the nba they aren’t in a position to offer anyone anything good as they want to compete for the title but they love one sided trades. Refer to the Pau Gasol deal, nuf said.

@ Tim

Rubio’s stats in Europe means nothing. Just compare Jenning’s stat last year and this year’s…

I’m not sold on Wall or Rubio at this point. They both seem very overrated in our present day of drafting for ‘potential’ NBA etiquette. Take Turner all the way and let’s go to battle with Harris at point.
Harris/CDR/newSF/Turner/Lopez

Harris has been a huge disappointment this season, but point guard is not the Nets biggest priority this offseason. The Nets need legitimate starting forwards. Of course you take the best player available, so Wall at #1 or Turner at #2. Otherwise use the pick on Favors or Davis.

I’ll take my chance that Harris will bounce back next year given a new coach and better talent around him. That makes more sense than selling him low.

Harris is not going anywhere, he’s injured and will be back on track next year wit a better team around him.

If the Nets don’t believe Harris is the answer at PG or SG, they soon will have a lot of options available to get rid of him, and get something of value in return. I think they will.

Harris is not a good enough play maker at PG, and he doesn’t shoot well enough, and is too small to be a SG. Add on to this his propensity for injuries and his sullen demeanor… Harris will soon have his “ticket to ride, and he probably don’t care”.

I would love to see Rubio on the team, but look at the choices we’d have at picks 3 or 4. Rod, Kiki and “Hit by the Bus Barrise” really have a tough job at these comparisions. Is RR > WJ? Don’t think so. RR > DF? DF’s got too much physical upside. RR > Cousins? PF with his post moves…nope. RR > Montejunas….YES!

Maybe it’s all about marketing…maybe it’s all about aligning with Stern’s vision of globalizing the NBA. “Cash Rules Everything Around Me. CREAM! Get the money….”

I still believe there’s a chance for Devin to improve his game. I don’t want to give up on him yet. But at the same time, I am still hoping to get the #1 pick and snag Wall. What we do then after we get Wall… I’m still up in the air about that.

I think people are missing the Point – no pun intended. Rubio is a past first PG. Harris is a scoring PG. With Lopez, Hayes, Lee, Twill, Yi and CDR we dont need a scoring PG we need someone that is going to distribute the ball to these guys. Someone that isnt looking for his shot first then asking for Pick with 8 secs left on the shot clock.

If we get the #1 pick, all this talk of rubio is over. If we get the #2, I would still consider Rubio with Turner playing SG. Turner is getting comparisons to Roy. What problem did Roy have until this year? Portland needed a PG. So Rubio would still be nice to get. Rubio, Turner, Twill, Rebounding PF, Lopez is would be a nice young nucleus.

Devin with pretty much the same team as this year(minus VC), took our team pretty far last year. I think if you add a bunch more players around him, he will be just fine. The PG spot does not concern me.

TWill is a point gurad, Harris is a shooting guard. Nice to have Wall at 1 but all we need to do is play these two where they belong… but we won’t cause we are the NETS

Everybody is focused on Wall, Rubio and Harris. I think there are other PG’s beside these three. LOL

Watch Thorn bring in a PG from under the radar. Harris days with the Nets are numbered. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s shipped out by the trade deadline. Proky will not stand for a guy, especially your PG, with a attitude and personality like Harris’s.

Why, because with his money he don’t have too. LMAO

@NetRick

With all due respect, TWill is a …WHAT!?!?

Let’s not confuse Williams bring the ball up, and throwing a few passes here and there as TWill being a PG.

The PG’s are only supposed to be pure playmakers idea is such an antiquated notion. Every position is dynamic, you can have scoring point guards, playmaking shooting guards, three point shooting big men, etc. Be less concerned about skill set and be more concerned about talent level and team cohesion. Orlando went to the finals last year with a three point shooting PF, and their SF being their primary playmaker.

I agree with GMJigga about Thanking Jesus…..

The only way I’d trade the #1 pick (WALL) would be with Minny for their pick (TURNER) and the rights to Rubio.

Is Curtis Stinson “under the radar”? He leads the D-League in assists with 10pg.

I thought they already tried the under the radar PG thing with Chris Quinn. How’s that working out? I’m with Pinetar—we need to be focused on our forwards. Before this season, I thought that we were ahead of teams like the Bucks in the frontcourt. Wrong! It is clear that we have the worst forwards in the league, and we need to address it. So if Wall, who seems to be the hands-down BPA, and perhaps Turner aren’t available, we should be focusing on the three and four spots, not replacing Devin.

This “sprained wrist” of Harris is taking too long. Broken wrist bone can be difficult to find. I hope everything is alright.

@ bort washington, that’s interesting. I might do the same deal: #1 (Wall) for Minny’s pick (#2 or #3) and Rubio.

Wall & Rubio

Bye harris bring amare, lures lebron and wade

:D :D :D champ team ;)

If we get Rubio, that haircut has gotta go.

Jkidd
VC
RJ
Kmart
B Lopez

DONE!

lol matt let me add to that “Give me Wall (or Turner) or death.” Trust me u will like him.

also i agree with bort washington

harris is not a shootin guard he cant shoot or guard

HERE IS A REVIEW OF RUBIO’S PLAY THIS YEAR:

“When it comes to his individual performance, though, the reviews have been mixed. While Rubio ranks among the leaders in assists and steals in both the domestic and European competition, he’s averaging a rather pedestrian 6.4 ppg in the Euroleague, which ties him with journeyman Daniel Santiago. He has not been shooting very well – 39.0 percent from the field – and has not been shooting much either – just 3.7 attempts per game.

Nikola Loncar, an NBA analyst for Spanish TV, went as far as to question whether Rubio would have been worthy of a first-round pick in 2010 given his play early in the season. That said, even Loncar, who won gold medals with Yugoslavia in the European and World Championsip playing with the likes of Zeljko Rebraca and Dejan Bodiroga, recognizes Rubio has been making some strides lately.

"I didn’t like his conservative approach," Loncar said. "We got used to seeing Ricky score 15-18 points very often. That’s the Ricky I like the most and it wasn’t happening anymore. Then there was a turning point for his season with the game against Real Madrid (in late December). Even his shooting form has changed. He’s not shooting like he used to."

Still, Loncar believes Rubio has to be much more aggressive on the offensive end.

"It’s OK that he’s unselfish, but there’s going to come a time when he has to make more decisions offensively. It’s not just that he has to score. If he really wants to be one of the greats, he has to score the key baskets! It’s great that he’s dishing 8 assists, but if you are just going to score 4 points… Come on."