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Graham Relishes Stopper Role

Stephen Graham was the last player to join the Nets this summer, barely a week before training camp.  He didn't even sign a fully guaranteed deal, but what he did get was a call from Avery Johnson promising an challenging role. "That was the phone call I got: ‘we’re bringing you in to put you on the best player on other teams.’ I took that as a personal challenge and I like doing that," Graham said.

Wednesday, after doing nice jobs on Joe Johnson and Rudy Gay, he'll be up against the Durantula: Kevin Durant. His coach thinks he's up to it, but compares Durant to a more athletic George Gervin and he's a Hall of Famer. Johnson also spoke of how he wished that Brook Lopez, like Durant, could have experienced the World Championships.

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by Claud on Dec 29, 2010 6:48 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

OHHH MYYYY SMH

Someone delete this article before someone else wants us kicked out of the league.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 29, 2010 6:49 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Graham makes me miss Mo Ager.

by Andres B on Dec 29, 2010 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

Graham makes me really want Carmelo Anthony.

Worst per-minute +/- on the team: http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=1&season=22010&split=9&team=Nets

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by NetsDaily on Dec 29, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

What an ugly chart. The only ones almost as bad are TWill and Joe Smith, so why is Graham still around?

by ispartan on Dec 29, 2010 7:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd bring Simmons or Hassel back before even thinking about signing outlaw or graham.

We could’ve signed jefferson or gotten beasley :( damn you thorn ! putting another “thorn” in or play-off hopes.

by David Triger on Dec 29, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

More like "And 1" Specialist.

All we need is a damn SF we have everything else to make it to the play-offs but our SF’s are sooo bad they make everyone else worse as well.

by David Triger on Dec 29, 2010 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Well...

To his credit Graham does a great job of stopping the Nets offense.

by NetsForce on Dec 29, 2010 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

for the other team

all he does is turn the ball over and take bad shots on offense

Lets just 68 and say I owe you one

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 29, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I would play sean williams at SG or SF rather than this guy.

Hell I bet Sly does a better job too

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by Claud on Dec 29, 2010 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

This is the type of article that gets Proky antsy

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 29, 2010 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

He's a stopper alright.

He stops the Nets from winning.

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by TWilliAM on Dec 29, 2010 7:04 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

so you guys know

He had a $450,000 partial guarantee on a vets minimum salary which became fully guaranteed earlier this month. As a result, he also gets a guaranteed $100,000 paid up front next season. If the Nets don’t waive him before July 5, next year is fully guaranteed.

Rudy Gay might disagree with a number of you on Graham’s defensive abilities.

by Net Income on Dec 29, 2010 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

When you're as wretched as he is at everything else

you need to be Scottie Pippen good defensively to be a useful player.

He isn’t close.

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by TWilliAM on Dec 29, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

The Nets have been better defensively with Graham on the bench: http://basketballvalue.com/teamplayers.php?year=2010-2011&team=NJN

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by NetsDaily on Dec 29, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

His steal and rebound rates are horrid

so this is hardly a surprise.

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by TWilliAM on Dec 29, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

rudy saw the schedule...saw nets....ate a bucket of fried chicken

then sleep walked through that entire game

Lets just 68 and say I owe you one

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 29, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I know, so many Nets fans feel Graham has not lived up to the expectations they had for him when we signed him a week before camp

All that talk of him being a rotation player back then seems foolish now. Oh, wait…

But seriously now, what did you guys expect, and has he not lived up those expectations?

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by BigTom on Dec 29, 2010 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

All because of that shot in Philly on the preseason

He looks like he’s gaining more confidence which is not a good thing dribbling around like he has the handle of D-wade all the while chewing his gum.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 29, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

If it's true that the Nets signed him because of that shot

I guess the Nets were supposed to look at that shot as fool’s gold. That is, they should not have gotten taken in by that game winner. But how many posters in the post-game thread posted here were warning the Nets front office against being taken in by that game winner? I could go look, but I’m guessing none. It’s easy to play Monday morning quarterback and criticize after the fact.

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by BigTom on Dec 29, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but he didn't really play well in the preseason either

I think he would have been cut if Zoubek didn’t get injured

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 29, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, me neither

which means he’s playing at a level at which I would expect a “no-name” player to play. He’s not even supposed to be a rotation player. Injuries thrust this upon him. Is that his fault? We criticize him for that? C’mon now.

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by BigTom on Dec 29, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHA

Yeah expectations definitely not matched

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 29, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Nice one. But seriously, blame the players in front of Graham for getting injured (Morrow), being a jerk (TWon’t) or not playing up to expectations (Outlaw)…all of which has forced Avery to play Graham more minutes than are suitable.

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by BigTom on Dec 29, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

For the record

Graham was not supposed to be in the rotation. It was supposed to be Outlaw and D. James at the 3, Morrow and TWon’t at the 2. Maybe with Graham playing two or three minutes at the end of the second quarter leading into halftime. That’s it.

Then, Outlaw disappointed, James got hurt, Morrow got hurt, TWon’t quit on the team. Graham was the last man standing and got the minutes. If Graham is really that bad, Sasha will take his place in the lineup, I guess.

I just think it’s silly to criticize Graham for extenuating circumstances and so forth.

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by BigTom on Dec 29, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Extenuating circumstances

are also the reason Quintin Ross had been getting minutes until he got hurt, lol.

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by BigTom on Dec 29, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i cant stand the guy

i’d rather have his substance-abusing brother instead

Lets just 68 and say I owe you one

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 29, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Not only is he a defensive stopper..

He is an Net offense stopper

a Net run stopper

a Net win stopper

and how about a general good feeling about this team stopper?

by power_njerz on Dec 29, 2010 7:16 PM EST reply actions  

Graham Is Fine

He is a very solid 3rd shooting guard with defensive capabilities. I have no problem with Graham.

The only reason he is starting right now is because Morrow is out. He may not play more than 5-6 minutes per game when he returns; Vujacic is the backup shooting guard now.

by ZR on Dec 29, 2010 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

In an unrelated story...

Anyone else notice TWILL hasnt played at all in Houston?

by cody1234 on Dec 29, 2010 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

Lebron James

“Imagine if you could add Graham to the Minnesota Timberwolves, just like he 80’s baby”

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 29, 2010 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

Probly right

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 29, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Defensive stopper?

Yeah, stops us from winning games.

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by NetsKiNG on Dec 29, 2010 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

The ripping of players like Graham and Outlol

Actually makes me feel better as a Nets fan for having to watch this product every night.

"We're not there yet, but we're going somewhere," Johnson said. "And we're going to Brooklyn. We're not going to contract. We're going to Brooklyn."

by Atronic on Dec 29, 2010 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

cant wait for durant to get locked down

you know 30 points on 20 shots 8-10 from the free throw line. 3-4 from three. only a couple of jumpshots and plenty of those tough dunks and layups that are so hard to make.

Lets just 68 and say I owe you one

by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Dec 29, 2010 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

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