More Details on Trade
by Net Income on Dec 15, 2010 3:57 PM EST
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PrintHere are some additional details on the Nets trade with the Rockets and Lakers:
--The Rockets first round pick in 2012 is lottery protected 1-14 until 2016 and then it rolls into a second round pick in 2017.
--The Lakers pick in 2011 is protected 1-18 until 2016 and than rolls into an unprotected pick in 2017
--The Nets are now over the salary cap by $45,097 which permits the team to use the 25% "cushion" in trades. The Nets can now trade for a player whose contract is 25% more than the contract(s) being sent out. Teams over the cap can normally sign players to MLE and LLE contracts to facilitate trades but the Nets renounced both last summer to get under the cap.
--The Nets have renounced their Bird Rights to Jarvis Hayes.
Mark Deeks of ShamSports explains it all to you. It starts with Keyon Dooling's buyout...
- Finances of the Terrence Williams/Sergei Lishouk trade - Mark Deeks - ShamSports
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Hahahaha
The deal sounds worse. So basically no one is getting the rockets picks for like 3-4 years??
Official Member of the "Do Not Trade Derrick Favors" Movement
by Mike Viola on Dec 15, 2010 3:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
huh?
I don’t think it’s that likely they’ll be in the lottery that long
I feel bad for my little brother. He walked in and saw that the score of the Nugs-Magic game was 88-89 and thought it was high scoring.
All he knows is the Nets.
by Maxyboy on Dec 14 2010
2010-2011 New Jersey Nets motto: Try Again. Fail Again. Fail Better.
i prefer the always reliable
“poor man’s”
though in his case, maybe it’s “homeless man’s”
Will according to Prokhorov
It will be the first season where the Brooklyn _ _ _ _ are starting off the NBA season as the defending NBA champions.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
The world ends in about 2 year 12/21/2012 right?
So it’s all moot.
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 15, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know why Johnson is so excited about that pick
by the time we use it, he will be unemployed.
That Freakin King he gave up the Rights to Jarvis Hayes
what a buffoon
Honestly, eliminating a lot of the poorly written rants that get thrown out here as Fanposts might help
A venting comment tends to get pushed out of sight pretty quick, while all these venting posts just sit on the front page. Trashing on the site isn’t my intention at all, but the Fanposts here are generally the worst that I’ve seen on SB nation in terms of thought and writing. Encouraging a little more thoughtful work to publish things might well lead to less negativity.
by Stephen Schmidt on Dec 15, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Am I aloud to make a trade proposal here? I wanna know what u guys think. But idk if I’ll get another warning. Cuz now u get warnings just by sayin hi
hi
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
How sad is it that Jarvis would be starting right now?
"I don’t think we want to be like the Knicks. I think we’d more like to resemble the Lakers." - Mikhail Prokhorov
We should've at least started his Rights
JH Right’s and Yi’s Chair would’ve made a pretty good 1 – 2 combo.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Offense/Defense
Kidd’s legacy
Jarivs Hayes Rights
Chair
Favors
Lopez
I like
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 15, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm how about
Kidd’s Legacy
Jarvis Hayes Rights
Drazen Petrovic’s Memory
Chair
Kenyon’s Tattoos
Injured: Tamar Slay’s Groin again
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
I like it!
Of course there is also..
Kenny Anderson’s potential
Derrick Coleman’s talent as the greatest PF ever
Jayson Williams’ judgement
Alonzo Mourning’s kidney
coached by
Chuck Daley’s class
and
Callipari’s sleaze
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 15, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
that was an awesome sequence of posts
Jack Handy murdered it at the end. REC’D
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
"I’m a Nets fan. I want to make hasty, ill-considered trades and jump to conclusions despite small samples and mitigating circumstances." -TWilliam, speaking the truth
by MrDollarBills on Dec 15, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Thanks but I still think I’m missing some good ones…
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 15, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Antione Wright’s diapers?
Marcus Williams’ laptops?
Sean Williams’ weed?
Yinka Dare’s sneaker deal?
Kendall Gill’s hair?
TJ Kidd’s head?
Armon Gilliam’s hammer?
Rodney Buford’s weed?
Uncle Cliff’s weed?
Eddie Gill’s determination?
Ed O’Bannon’s reason to exist?
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
"I’m a Nets fan. I want to make hasty, ill-considered trades and jump to conclusions despite small samples and mitigating circumstances." -TWilliam, speaking the truth
by MrDollarBills on Dec 15, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
OUCH!
Now I love some of these players but right now, anything to feel better about this team…
VC’s v@g (acc. to Toronto fans)
RJ’s sexuality
Todd MacCulloh’s foot
Mutumbo’s index finger
Keith Van Horn’s contract
Travis Outlaw on Portland
Trenton Hassell’s ability to play PF
Bobby Simmons’ agent
Rafer Alston’s stupid nickname (skip to my poo)
CDR’s initials
Mikki Moore’s debt to Jason Kidd
Jason Collins’ talent (oh wait)
Aaron William’s A-Train
Josh Boone’s foul shooting
Shawn Bradley’s GNC sponsorship
Sam Cassell’s space ship
Linton Johnson III’s – I + II
Krstic’s rogaine
Courtney Lee’s love of the the Nets
Jamal Magloire’s all star appearance
Donny Marshall’s brother
Boki Nachbar’s awesomeness
Scott Padgett’s ears
I could go on…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Jersey_Nets_all-time_roster
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 15, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
went for the jugular with RJ
haven’t heard that one in years. oof.
by shane gayle on Dec 16, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Done
But you must get them to agree to sign with the New Jersey Nets Future
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
You mean the...
Brooklyn New Yorkers?
ughhh
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 15, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
These posts almost got me in trouble
I was laughing too hard
by cedaghost on Dec 15, 2010 6:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That we are no longer part of his religion
by Phatman on Dec 15, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Reading through this topic a little late...
Totally overlooked this comment. Hilarious. Recs, good phat man.
Official member of the *NetsDaily Has Too Many Movements* Movement.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Dec 15, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Wh no longer have rights his bird. But his goldfish is still ours to do with as we please!
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 15, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Oops.."We" & "rights to"
it been one of those days…
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Dec 15, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
that the Nets cannot sign him outside the cap
it was a convenience to hang on to them to facilitate a trade. For some cap reasons, they had to drop them. Its really not much of a big deal, but it has been discussed in the past so I asked and was told they were renounced.
King needs to make another trade..Im getting restless and bored
We need something to discuss.
here's something to look forward to
January 19 is Russian Culture Night. Guess who will be welcome to attend!!
this guy....freaky eyes
"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
ak-47 must be signed for entertainment purposes alone
and his wife is awesome
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
"I’m a Nets fan. I want to make hasty, ill-considered trades and jump to conclusions despite small samples and mitigating circumstances." -TWilliam, speaking the truth
by MrDollarBills on Dec 15, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
we need to invite Vladmir Putin to Russian Culture Night
and allow him to give the team a pregame pep talk. The team would be afraid to fail. Maybe some motivation by a man that would kill a wild bear with his bare hands would do the trick.
He would mentally break and rebuild Brook Lopez back into the man that we all believed him to be within 10 mins. Tops.
I’m not kidding.
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
"I’m a Nets fan. I want to make hasty, ill-considered trades and jump to conclusions despite small samples and mitigating circumstances." -TWilliam, speaking the truth
by MrDollarBills on Dec 15, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
I knew he was so fly like a G6
Think he’s sipping szyrup?
by Jack Handy Jr on Dec 15, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Proky could very well be sighted on his G6, but he flies in a G5
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark
Honorary Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
Proky wants Nets to resemble the Lakers. But what steps have Nets taken towards achieving it?
Brook, stop with the Mickey Mouse rebounding
Vujacic's Availability in a Trade
Being over the cap right now means we can’t trade Vujacic in a package with other players. He can be traded by himself or with picks.
However, if we sneak under the cap by renouncing one of the guys with partial guarantees, then Vujacic can be included in a trade. However, we’d be limited to taking back what we send out + what ever little salary cap room we have left.
first Joe Smith now Jarvis Hayes
is there no end?
I feel bad for my little brother. He walked in and saw that the score of the Nugs-Magic game was 88-89 and thought it was high scoring.
All he knows is the Nets.
by Maxyboy on Dec 14 2010
2010-2011 New Jersey Nets motto: Try Again. Fail Again. Fail Better.
lolz
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
"I’m a Nets fan. I want to make hasty, ill-considered trades and jump to conclusions despite small samples and mitigating circumstances." -TWilliam, speaking the truth
by MrDollarBills on Dec 15, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Nice job as always in staying on top of fast-paced developments, NI
But I’m afraid all this strikes me as epic front-office wheel spinning while the team looks more and more like last year’s study in futility each time it takes the court.
I’d guess that Proky is behind these manic off-court moves, which helps to explain why Thorn hit the road when he did.
Thorn
I got the impression he left because of Yormark.
by Rodney Buford on Dec 15, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
he left because of many things
including that Prokhorov wanted him to take a paycut.
But most of all, from what I can tell, because Avery cemented his relationship with “the Russians” early on, jeopardizing his role as sole arbiter of basketball operations.
if you think Thorn had done much
i guess.
But since 2006, he drafted Marcus Williams, Josh Boone, Hassan Adams, Sean Williams, Brook Lopez, Ryan Anderson, Chris Douglas Roberts, Terrence Williams, Derrick Favors and Damion James.
Five of those guys—the three Williams, Boone, CDR— were head cases in one way or another. Two had arrest records before joining the team. He made one very good trade, for Humphries and another good trade, getting picks plural for Marcus Williams. The rest of the deals, he participated in cost cutting disguised as salary dumps. He signed Najera for $14 million (and people complain about Petro!!), etc.
All that for $5.5 million a year.
Not a sterling list of picks with the exception of Lopez and Favors, to be sure
But the team doesn’t look so hot in the all-new era either.
But since 2006, he drafted Marcus Williams, Josh Boone, Hassan Adams, Sean Williams, Brook Lopez, Ryan Anderson, Chris Douglas Roberts, Terrence Williams, Derrick Favors and Damion James
Sweet god have mercy.
Well, at least we won’t have to worry about the 76ers being a threat anytime soon
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
"I’m a Nets fan. I want to make hasty, ill-considered trades and jump to conclusions despite small samples and mitigating circumstances." -TWilliam, speaking the truth
by MrDollarBills on Dec 15, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
is he their gm or president?
I said this a lot before/during his “retirement” I think he’s great at seeing the big picture, and evaluating free agents but terrible at the scouting side of being a gm, which is why I think our drafts improved so much when Kiki became gm. IMO he’d be part of a great 1-2 punch as a president paired with a gm with a strong scouting background.
I feel bad for my little brother. He walked in and saw that the score of the Nugs-Magic game was 88-89 and thought it was high scoring.
All he knows is the Nets.
by Maxyboy on Dec 14 2010
2010-2011 New Jersey Nets motto: Try Again. Fail Again. Fail Better.
I dunno
I think he’s the president?
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
"I’m a Nets fan. I want to make hasty, ill-considered trades and jump to conclusions despite small samples and mitigating circumstances." -TWilliam, speaking the truth
by MrDollarBills on Dec 15, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
thorn did know how to bargain and broker deals
Him and king would make a great fo
i think this deal
was quite good in that 1) it was done in such secrecy that nothing leaked out prematurely; 2) the Nets wound up taking advantage of a salary dump (LA’s) and got both a decent player and picks.
There is not a poster on this board who two weeks ago would have thought dumping TWill (and some minor parts…like a guy who hasnt played in a month and two second round picks not even your own) would have produced two first round picks and a guy who did well in three NBA Finals.
Nets wound up taking advantage of a salary dump (LA’s) and got both a decent player and picks.
He’s not really a decent player. He once was. In fact, even a good one. But now he is a shell of himself. He will not be on the Nets next year.
Neither would Joe Smith though
We got a larger expiring to use at the deadline as well as another first…great deal for us
by Stephen Schmidt on Dec 15, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
If you would have said we traded Joe Smith for Sasha
I would say great deal.
You traded, well….you basically gave up on, one of the bigger “potential” players on the team, one of those players that really had to blossom for the Nets to be good (or average).
As for the first or what not, sure. But Sasha is not a “decent” player unless by decent you would mean, “run of the mill, below average shooting guard”.
by ________key on Dec 15, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
HE. DRAFTED. JORDAN.
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by JohnFromLongIsland on Dec 15, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Thorn built this team
and the last team. He is a bum.
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