Is Cuban Right About Prokhorov? No, Not that Part...the Money!
Other than his questioning Mikhail Prokhorov's manhood, Mark Cuban also questioned his fellow billionaire's financial commitment to the Nets, saying, "You know, building a true professional team means having to spend money. We just haven't seen it."
Whether in jest or not, that has to sting. The Nets, particularly Avery Johnson, have talked about how much money the team has laid out. So we took a look at what Prokhorov has spent or committed so far on the Nets. It belies Cuban's comments. The Nets may not have signed big time free agents, but they are spending money.
Bottom line: we estimate Prokhorov has spent or committed about $600 million on the Nets since agreeing to buy the team a little more than a year ago. Sources range from reports by Nets beat writers, the Russian financial press, the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Standard and Poors, the financial rating service...plus our own sources.
We also speculate why Cuban would say such thing. Hint: he's probably still paying Johnson!
—$200 million for the purchase of 80% of the team and 45% of the Barclays Center and an option to purchase up to 20% of the overall Atlantic Yards project (which he told Forbes Russia he’s unlikely to exercise.)
—$177 million in assumption of team debt. As part of the purchase, Onexim Group agreed to assume 80% of the Nets corporate debt, the largest, as a percent of debt-to-equity, in professional sports.
—$60 million in operating losses. Onexim agreed to accept up to that amount in operating losses while the team stays in New Jersey. That presumably includes the Nets' lease at Prudential Center.
—$4 million in IZOD Center lease penalties. In order to move the team to Newark, the NJSEA required a payment of $2 million per year for each of the two years the Nets will remain in New Jersey. (Uncertain if the $4 million is included in the $60 million in operating losses or a separate expenditure.)
—$77 million in arena infrastructure loans. After the arena company, owned jointly by Bruce Ratner and Prokhorov, found it difficult to market bonds for the arena infrastructure (separate from the $511 million tax exempt bonds for the arena), Onexim agreed to buy the bonds. They are convertible to equity in the arena in three years and could lead to Onexim gaining an 80% stake in Barclays Center as well.
—$66 million in free agent contracts: $35 million to Travis Outlaw, $12 million each to Anthony Morrow and Jordan Farmar, $10 million to Johan Petro, and $1 million to Joe Smith. (The Nets, of course, were willing to pay bigger bucks to the top free agents, offering nearly $40 million to Tyrus Thomas, $65 million to Rudy Gay, $70 million to Carlos Boozer and more than $100 million each to LeBron James, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade.)
—$10 million net increase in payroll by trading Courtney Lee for Troy Murphy.
---$3 million in cash considerations to facilitate the trade of Yi Jianlian to the Wizards for Quinton Ross. (The last time the Nets added a significant amount of cash to a deal was in 2004, when they sent $1.5 million to the Clippers to facilitate the Kerry Kittles trade.)
—$635,000 in partial contract gurantees: $450,000 to Graham; $100,000 to Sean May; $50,000 to Brian Zoubek; $35,000 to Uzoh. (In the six years under Ratner, the team had given out one partial guarantee, $25,000, to Robert Hite).
---$250,000 payment for the Springfield Armor hybrid arrangement. (Sources have said the Nets wanted to buy a team outright but couldn't because the D-League had no plans to expand in the northeast.)
—Several million dollars in salaries, benefits and equipment for basketball operations, whose staff has gone from 22 to 30 people under Prokhorov, and global marketing efforts. Beyond staff, there's also been equipment purchases, specifically in rehabilitation and video editing equipment, even specially equipped iPads for each player and coaching staff member. On the marketing front, Prokhorov has shelled out for the global preseason tour and a new Russian language website. The team will lose money by shipping two regular season "home games" to London this March.
So why might Cuban saying such a thing? Here's one possibility: Cuban is still paying a big part of Avery Johnson's contract. Johnson and his two lead assistants, Sam Mitchell and Larry Krystkowiak, are all still being paid on their head coaching deals with the Mavericks, Raptors and Bucks, respectively. Coaches’ contracts typically have off-set clauses. If they're fired and then get new jobs, what they get from their old teams is reduced--offset--by whatever they get from their new employers. The Nets have never disclosed what they are paying those three...and how much their old teams are still paying them.
But Johnson's old contract with Cuban called for him to get $4+ million from the Mavs this season. So, it's possible, even likely, the Nets are paying Johnson a small fraction of that amount and letting Cuban pick up the rest of the tab. Perhaps that’s why Cuban is giving his Russian counterpart some grief. He's still paying Johnson!
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Proky is spending wisely
He is laying the foundation now that will pay off in the future.
"The best is yet to come, and babe, won't that be fine
You think you've seen the sun, but you ain't seen it shine"
If you could add coaching staff contracts to that list, it’d be more complete. Avery, Mitchell, Kryz…, etc. You know what I mean.
I do know what you mean
It is interesting is that CUBAN is paying a big part of Avery’s contract. Those three guys, Johnson, Mitchell and Krystkowiak, are all still being paid on their head coaching deals with the Mavs, Raptors and Bucks. The coaches’ contracts traditionally have off-set clauses. If they get new jobs, what they get from their old teams is reduced by whatever they get from their new ones. So, if Johnson was still getting $4 million from Cuban, the Nets could have simply paid him $1 and let Cuban pick up the rest of the tab…and perhaps that’s why Marc is so upset.
Cuban is Jealous that Proky's net worth dwarfs his...
BTW, how many rings has all this money he has spent got him..?
This!
The NBA is so strict in terms of salary caps that simply spending doesn’t necessarily mean you’re gonna win anything. See the Knicks and the money they’ve thrown away on assets like Eddy Curry.
Official member of the *NetsDaily Has Too Many Movements* Movement.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Dec 11, 2010 9:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
well it's not because of the cap its because of poor spending
LA and Boston spend smart. Cuban spends big on players on the downsides of their careers.
Comparing Cam Newton to other Heisman candidates is like watching the end of Jurassic Park. Sure the velociraptors had been running around causing trouble all movie, but at the end the T-Rex just comes stomping through the wall and annihilates them.- TIP
2010-2011 New Jersey Nets motto: Try Again. Fail Again. Fail Better.
Santonio Holmes: you don't need open field moves when you've got getting away from the cops speed.
Prokhorov "works" for a living (runs a real multinational corporation that is growing).
Cuban was fortunate to sell his Internet-Craze company at the right time for a ridiculous $5 billion.
He chose to retire and do what he enjoys and “play” the stock market in his spare time.
Mark is a good guy but he clearly IS jealous and as NI pointed out may feel that Proky is squeezing him out of millions, because of Avery’s salary.
I think Cuban meant to say that Prokhorov is a “prick” but of course he respects him as a businessman.
Proky could have replied and said “at least I work for a living”. Instead Proky proved why he is such a good businessman by saying he doesn’t like Cats. Proky saved Cuban potential embarrassment.
lolwut, Proky has 1/100 of the freedom Cuban has
Proky so much as sneeze the wrong way and Putin will take him out.
Cuban can do what he wants when he wants.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark
Honorary Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
Proky wants Nets to resemble the Lakers. But what steps have Nets taken towards achieving it?
Brook, stop with the Mickey Mouse rebounding
can we all just take a second to really think about how much money 600 million dollars is
600 million in one year?? Most of the US’s top like 0.25% in wealth couldn’t afford that, hell if you took the entire lifetime earnings of most of the top 1% in wealth it probably wouldn’t even approach that kind of spending power. And it comes with an owner who doesn’t make an a** of himself every time a camera gets within 100 yards.
Comparing Cam Newton to other Heisman candidates is like watching the end of Jurassic Park. Sure the velociraptors had been running around causing trouble all movie, but at the end the T-Rex just comes stomping through the wall and annihilates them.- TIP
2010-2011 New Jersey Nets motto: Try Again. Fail Again. Fail Better.
Santonio Holmes: you don't need open field moves when you've got getting away from the cops speed.
by Gina on Dec 11, 2010 11:41 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
eh
As a businessman, I am far less impressed by the amount of money spent than how&why it is spent.
In the case of Proky’s Nets/Arena, I can’t say I’m impressed with his investment. There is a reason why no other investors (especially US businessmen) were willing to bail out Ratner’s project. Either Proky sees something no other developer does (unlikely, because real estate is not Proky’s business and Proky does not know NY well) or Proky is not so much in this for business ROI (return on investment) as… well, others have speculated on Proky’s motivations.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark
Honorary Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
Proky wants Nets to resemble the Lakers. But what steps have Nets taken towards achieving it?
Brook, stop with the Mickey Mouse rebounding
i'm not saying it's spent well
i’m just saying it’s a crapton of money.
Comparing Cam Newton to other Heisman candidates is like watching the end of Jurassic Park. Sure the velociraptors had been running around causing trouble all movie, but at the end the T-Rex just comes stomping through the wall and annihilates them.- TIP
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed." - Cam Newton
"this fool just went full retard"- Random friend on the above Cam Newton quote
2010-2011 New Jersey Nets motto: Try Again. Fail Again. Fail Better.
well, to put it in perspective, Bloomberg spent $100m for his own mayoral reelection
he was already a popular mayor that almost nobody doubt would win. $100m was just for insurance, and it was all spent on media that just evaporated the next day. at least Proky’s money is going towards some hard assets. except $35m to Outlaw, that’s just philanthropy for the disabled.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark
Honorary Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
Proky wants Nets to resemble the Lakers. But what steps have Nets taken towards achieving it?
Brook, stop with the Mickey Mouse rebounding
Would you guys do this trade
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2worjgj
we would look like this…
Turner/Farmar
Morrow/Twill
Young/Outlaw/James
Favors/Hump
Lopez
"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
n/m philly has holiday lol
plus i think we’d be worse off
"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
yeah doesn't really work for either team
JETS / falcons...METS / rays...NETS / lakers
My word is my pride, the wisdom is weak, and that's word from the wise.
by YoungMoney24 on Dec 11, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
cuban is and idiot
This guy stay running his mouth, win something first!
SO MUCH FOR GOING AFTER HIS NECK!
by Mike28Live on Dec 11, 2010 12:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Maybe Mark was referring to the comparative team salaries, $81M vs $51M. Cuban also spent $47M on a Boeing 747 so the team could travel in comfort. I am sure the Nets will enjoy their iPods though.
by ispartan on Dec 11, 2010 12:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
iPads, not iPods; 767, not 747.
Cuban doesn’t own a 747. He has a used 767 which he uses for his personal business as well as the Mavericks.
Considering Prokhorov has owned the team for six months, maybe we can wait to see what he does with the team’s plane and budget. Like Prokhorov, by the way, Cuban bought the team from a real estate developer who had redeveloped a neighborhood around an arena in Downtown Dallas. The developer, son of Ross Perot, continues to own a small piece of the Mavs, just as Ratner owns a small piece of the Nets.
Sorry about the typos but after it posted, it did sound funnier. But CBS Reports said this in an article about Cuban,
He bought the team a $46.0 million Boeing 757 with custom-made seats for his oversized employees like Shawn Bradley.
by ispartan on Dec 11, 2010 2:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
that was amazing that trade we did with dallas
cassell, gatling, mccloud, jim jackson, montross for khalid reeves, bradley, pac, and obannon
Here is the link to the CBS article
http://iphone.cbsnews.com/site?t=Y9ONdBz2VTV8lbCWIkJxiQ&sid=cbsnews_ip
by ispartan on Dec 11, 2010 3:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Your correction was wrong
He does own a 767 but that is in addition to the team plane which is a 757
http://community.warplanes.com/2010/06/16/mark-cuban-can’t-live-without-his-private-jets/
by ispartan on Dec 11, 2010 3:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
your original post was wrong
and trying to pass it off as a typo is bull.
As I noted, the 767 is used for his business purposes as well as for the team.
salmons
"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
Official Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
He's still paying Avery and
Proky is stealing his niche in the spotlight as a relevant owner. I could really care less about what Cuban says if it’s not going to be accurate.
lol this too
If NBA owners were in one of those cliche high school movies, Prokhy would be the popular guy in school who doesn’t have to say much but everyone wants to be him, and Cuban would be his awkward sidekick who tries to hard to be liked.
Comparing Cam Newton to other Heisman candidates is like watching the end of Jurassic Park. Sure the velociraptors had been running around causing trouble all movie, but at the end the T-Rex just comes stomping through the wall and annihilates them.- TIP
2010-2011 New Jersey Nets motto: Try Again. Fail Again. Fail Better.
Santonio Holmes: you don't need open field moves when you've got getting away from the cops speed.
i know this is random
but i like Humphries tweets….he seems to be really close with the other nets
"Go ahead, make a cake"
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Dec 11, 2010 1:56 PM EST reply actions
Lol just checked out his twitter
looks like farmar got his ass whooped in madden
wow, and i considered myself a Travis Outlaw hater
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark
Honorary Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
Proky wants Nets to resemble the Lakers. But what steps have Nets taken towards achieving it?
Brook, stop with the Mickey Mouse rebounding
Try to be nice. There is still a big difference between a Boeing of any model and any apple I device.
we get it. it's you who don't get it
Proky spent $600m for his franchise/arena. But when it comes to the player’s preseason around the world trip, they charter Delta — just as Clippers, Raptors would.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark
Honorary Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
Proky wants Nets to resemble the Lakers. But what steps have Nets taken towards achieving it?
Brook, stop with the Mickey Mouse rebounding
and NI you constantly raving about Proky's G5 - but he charters Delta for his players
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark
Honorary Member of the "DO NOT TRADE DERRICK FAVORS" Movement
Proky wants Nets to resemble the Lakers. But what steps have Nets taken towards achieving it?
Brook, stop with the Mickey Mouse rebounding
i would make these players ride the bus
Comparing Cam Newton to other Heisman candidates is like watching the end of Jurassic Park. Sure the velociraptors had been running around causing trouble all movie, but at the end the T-Rex just comes stomping through the wall and annihilates them.- TIP
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed." - Cam Newton
"this fool just went full retard"- Random friend on the above Cam Newton quote
2010-2011 New Jersey Nets motto: Try Again. Fail Again. Fail Better.
LOL
exactly
Comparing Cam Newton to other Heisman candidates is like watching the end of Jurassic Park. Sure the velociraptors had been running around causing trouble all movie, but at the end the T-Rex just comes stomping through the wall and annihilates them.- TIP
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed." - Cam Newton
"this fool just went full retard"- Random friend on the above Cam Newton quote
2010-2011 New Jersey Nets motto: Try Again. Fail Again. Fail Better.
apologies that Napolean pic came out too big
Travis Outlaw fan club member with Damion James gettin dirty in the rear view mirror.
lol, avery looking up at the picture
avery should come to next practice with this outfit or a press conference

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