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Power Rankings: Little Change, Still Near the Bottom

Three straight losses, one to the Kings, will not help you in the power rankings.  John Schuhmann drops the Nets from #22 to #25 while Marc Stein, who already had them at #25 last week, demotes them one notch to #26. 

Schuhmann notes that Devin Harris didn't get untracked after being tossed in the Clipper game, shooting 11 for 33 over the rest of the trip.  He also notes that "the Nets have gone as Harris has: They're 3-1 with only a one-point loss to the Magic in games he's scored 20-plus."

Stein, meanwhile, notes what every Nets fan knows: "zero double-doubles for a presumed All-Star in Brook Lopez." Stein also notes that in games decided by five or fewer points, the Nets have five straight losses.

The captains' inconsistency is one of three things the Nets' Ben Couch says fans should watch for this week, along with Kris Humphries' ability to keep up his career numbers across the board and the health of Terrence Williams and Troy Murphy.

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we're hanging around in these losses...

which is probably the best thing to take away from all of this. a few clutch performances at the right times, and some of these losses could be wins (and WILL be by the end of the season).

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by Chakroot on Nov 22, 2010 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, clutch as in making layups and wide open shots

That’d be a nice start.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!

by eLonepb on Nov 22, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that execution down the stretch must improve(and I believe that it will)

But we’re not getting blown off of the floor. A loss is a loss but they’re fighting out there. I think the fact that we’re competitive is a positive sign despite the record. How many years in a row have we had to endure a Nets team that would, as Jason Kidd put it perfectly before he forced his way out of here, “let go of the rope” in the middle of games and lost miserably?

Not with this team.

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

if the whole team did a better job throughout the game then we wouldn't be in that position to begin with.

I agree he needed to finish that, but to base the whole game on that one moment is dumb.

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by Claud on Nov 22, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

We can always say that if made 1 or 2 key plays that we could have won, but the other team can say the exact same thing.

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 22, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Harris had a worst night than Lopez

I don’t see anyone riding him as hard as you guys are riding Lopez.

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by Claud on Nov 22, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

The team is fighting till the end of the game, not giving up mentally like last season.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

That is true. Lol, Iv’e only been following the Nets since last season.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

you picked a hell of a year to hop on board

and you’re still here. I commend you

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

however

if i’m lost, i may not follow you to see where you’re going

by PigDaddy3 on Nov 22, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen aunt-b

the last two-three seasons actually

this team is putting up more of a fight this season than they did during Kidd/RJ/VC’s last year together.

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm going out on a limb here...

but the successes and failures of this Nets season will not be found in the wins and losses columns. we might as well be an expansion team with such relative obscurity to the regular “goings on” of NBA life, (like winning, competing, making the playoffs). if this team can grow to trust one another, create an identity for itself, and possibly acquire a little more talent, i would consider this season a success.

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by Chakroot on Nov 22, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

this is what I've been saying

it’s about day to day IMPROVEMENT

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

of course, that part about...
possibly acquire a little more talent

will draw a little more attention from some than others.

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by Chakroot on Nov 22, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Very nice point about the Nets being like an expansion team

That’s basically what they are after Ratner, although they do have more talent than the collection of cast-offs that make up the typical expansion team in any sport.

by jsg on Nov 22, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

We were “close” in a lot of early games last season. in the end, a W is a W and a L is an L.

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 22, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

are we seriously going to compare last year's mess to this year?

last year’s team that managed to hang tough in 8 straight losses was also injury riddled and the roster was atrocious.

If you’re just looking at wins and losses in this team’s case you’re seriously missing the bigger picture.

A team like Miami would have to worry about their record being bad because they have two superstars, an all star PF, and veteran players all brought in to win NOW. This is a team full of kids that are trying to figure things out and are nowhere ready for the big stage.

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Cool your jets, I am just saying that close doesn’t get you much.

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 22, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i beg to differ...

i think keeping a game close, even when we lose, (and ESPECIALLY against a team we have no business beating in the first place) is crucial to this team’s development. i’d rather have our young guys learning from their mistakes early on… playing through nail-biters, gutting a game out til the last second (regardless of outcome).

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by Chakroot on Nov 22, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, thats all fine and dandy in theory, but they aren’t learning. The were “close” with the Magic but then get beat by the bottom of the barrel teams right after that. Some of these guys just need confidence in wins. Given all their tweets and such, losing takes a tole, obviously.

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 22, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

who says that they aren't learning?

where is your proof of this?

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Where is your proof that they are?

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 22, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I asked you first!

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Another intelligent exchange on NetsDaily... LOL

“Your mother wears combat boots” should be coming up any minute now..

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

ha.

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 22, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

your mother was a hampster...

and your father smelt of elderberries!!!!

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by Chakroot on Nov 22, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Question is, what are they learning?

Teams can learn bad habits as well as good ones.

by jsg on Nov 22, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

of course...

last year is the perfect example of a team learning all the wrong lessons. that’s why we hired avery.

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by Chakroot on Nov 22, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand that

but you’re missing the bigger picture.

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Can I compare the Knicks then?

They have also been close in a lot of games, I really don’t think that means much in the grand scheme of things. The objective is to win the game.

I would be more impressed if we could win in different ways. I want to see this team win big. We haven’t won easily in a long long time. I want to see us build a lead, and sustain it for an entire game.

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 22, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

this is a rebuilding team

cool your jets. You want Rome to be built in a day and it’s not going to happen.

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

"Rome wasn't built in a day"

870 years to be exact :)

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

When did I give the impression that I am impatient? I am fine with the losing, I accept it.

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 22, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

“Now, I want you to remember that no poor bastard ever won a war by dying for his team. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his team.

NetsDaily readers, all this stuff you’ve heard about the Nets and their fans not wanting to fight, wanting to stay out of battle, is a lot of horse dung. Nets and their fans, traditionally, love to fight. All real Nets love the sting of battle"

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

it's absolutely ridiculous

OMGGG HOW DARE THIS TEAM GO 1-3 ON A WEST COAST TRIP!?!?

The Nets took one of the best teams in the league to the LIMIT on their home floor. But none of that matters. Kris Humpries playing great basketball, especially against Blake Griffin one of the league’s monster PF’s, means nothing either.

There’s a reason why I said that the Nets would go 1-3 on that trip. This team is wet behind the ears, and while some look at it as an excuse, I look at it as the reality of the situation. The expectations on this team from some fans are irrational and unrealistic.

I do agree though that Lopez’s soft play is inexcusable and he needs to get it in gear.

I also agree with some of the criticism about Avery’s offense and lineups. There is no reason to have Williams/James/Murphy in streetclothes when we need those players to perform for us.

But all in all, there are reasons to be positive about this team.

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

LOL… who are you even talking about? Who is saying its the end of the world. I think we all have pretty realistic expectations of this team. Reading this post for example, everyone seems to be on the same page.

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 22, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

end of the world?

If that means no more Carmelo, I’m all for it !

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Some of us aren't on the same page

I gave this team a ceiling of 32 games, other folks on here are ready to kill every player on the roster because this team isn’t on pace to win 50 games.

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think those “50 win” people post much.

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 22, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

pffft

yes they do

they are out there

lurking…waiting to strike…

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I just wish you wouldn’t make these grandiose hyperbole’s that bring out the bone head mass audience. Its like when the left accuses Bush of being the Devin and the right accuses Obama of being Hitler…. everyone who is already on that side goes nuts for it, but it does little to further the logistical debate, and as the great Marc Jackson would say… “You’re better then that!”

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 22, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Its why I cant follow politics anymore.

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 22, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

It's clear to me that Avery Johnson is trying to get his team

to play the “right” way. We may have a difficult transition period in order to get there, but I like what I have seen so far.

P.S. I do believe in “moral” victories. You see teams win all the time playing the wrong way, and these teams usually never amount to much in the long run…

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

exactly

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Devin Harris and Brook Lopez are the fifth highest scoring point guard/center tandem in the NBA. Listed below are the top five:

1. Knicks: Raymond Felton & Amar’e Stoudemire—40.6 PPG
2. Bulls: Derrick Rose & Joakim Noah—40.1 PPG
3. Jazz: Deron Williams & Al Jefferson—37.7 PPG
4. Magic: Jameer Nelson & Dwight Howard—35.6 PPG
5. Nets: Devin Harris & Brook Lopez 34.0—PPG

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

Congratulations aunt-B...

Your turning into a real fine stat-geek…

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Credit: Ben Couch

“geek”? lol, never been accused of that… there’s always a first time for everything.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

How about Hillbilly-Geek ?

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

How about "Geek Goddess"?

Is that really your impression of me? Not all Kentuckians are Hillbillies…

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

How many teeth you have ?

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

You know you're a Hillbilly when:

“He needed killin’ " is a valid defense.

You think that the first day of deer season is a national holiday.

You know which leaves make good toilet paper.

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You're quite the

little scoundrel today. I’ll get you back when you least expect it…
Just for being mean to me, I want be baking you any Christmas cookies.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry...

Lets talk more about them cookies !

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Ulterior motive?

Actually, I am famous for my Gingerbread men cookies, that and my white chocolate cheesecake…What are your favorites?

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure anything you bake...

will become my instant favorite. That chocolate cheesecake sure sounds swell !

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO

You can’t post anything on this website without getting attacked !

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey "nwkiddnj"...

Talking about sucking up…Have you dumped that LeBron loving girlfriend of yours yet ? LOL (Just kidding of course)

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Lmao dude I wanted to knock her silli ( with a pillow or something nothing violent)we had great seats

Fire section great seats and she let’s out the biggest I love u Lebron and I forgot my nets jersey so I’m looking like a bandwagon heat fan. Worst day of my life. I forgave her just made her ride in the back seat with no music and a 3 hr time out

by nwkiddnj on Nov 22, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

"made her ride in the back seat with no music and a 3 hr time out"

Man, you play rough !

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

that's pretty thugged out

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

god gave you the back of your hand for a reason nwkiddnj

a pimp once told me that if it is used wisely, you won’t have anymore days like that

j/k

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

A white "Pimp"...

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Mr.DollarBills

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

if I was pimping

I wouldn’t be at work posting on NetsDaily

I’d have one of my girls post for me while I’m out making my rounds, collecting my money.

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Lmao

M I K E you funny!

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by Mikee21 on Nov 22, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

nwkiddnj

I’ll send you some cookies too!

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll start baking on the 15th of December

I want promise they’ll get to you unbroken, although I have shipped cookies to my nephew in Germany and they have arrived in tact. I might even send you some Kentucky bourbon balls and rum balls. I make a lot of candy too.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

aunt-B, is this your house by any chance?

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That's so funny...

I decorate my kitchen in a Gingerbread theme at Christmas.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

ROFL

Talk about sucking up…

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Finally, a NetsDaily comment that makes total sense !

Rec’d…

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

If you really want me to send you some cookies I will. I give away dozens and dozens of cookies every Christmas. I’ll need a address or P.O. box to ship them too.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm heading south around mid december...

Maybe you can meet me at the airport…

By the way, does Kentucky have an airport ?

Do I need a passport ?

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

You are headed to Florida?

Yes we have an airport. If you wearing a U of K sweatshirt, you’ll blend in and they want know that you’re from out of town :)

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, I'm headed for my winter retreat...

and I finally get to watch real basketball teams…

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

So you’re taking your talents to South Beach?

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

they're not number one?

they suck. Trade them both this instant before I throw a temper tantrum!!!

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

After Saturdays loss, an emotional AJ said he was very proud of his team...

and I believe and agree with him…

“Lets Go Nets”…

“Damn the torpedoes (Atlanta + Boston) and full speed ahead”…

“Me you in Hell Mr. Bills”….

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

"Meet you in hell Mr.Bills"

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

z

We’d be winning these games if Lopez could really play in the post like a true Center and not shoot 9-21 to score 20 points. This bad summer with mono has really affected him. He looks weaker, slower and with no stamina. Last year he would get so many alley oops but now he can’t even catch them. Like I said earlier, I really don’t think it’s fair to judge Lopez THIS SEASON, BUT at the same time we know what he is. He is a post player, who can blocks shots and is average rebounder for a big man. He is getting better at reading double teams and passing but he still has long ways to go. If you look at most of our losses, we are always in striking distance but we can’t execute. Our defense is top 10 now which is an ENORMOUS improvement from last year, but Harris is always a no-show for big games, and the big disney has been struggling this season. I still believe we should keep this team intact unless the trade is “the right trade”. Lopez/Favors will be fine and we will start seeing good things from then next year when Lopez regains his health and hits the gym while Favors gains experience/confidence. From there we have a bunch solid piece role players which can really add something to a winning team. Our goal should be becoming a 50+ win team with a chance at a title once we are in BK. These 2 years should be used for having good drafts and developing our players… Rome wasn’t build in one day you know.

I really like Melo but I don’t know if he makes THAT much of a difference today with the Lakers, Celtics and the rest around… the way I see it there are two viable options:
1) Go for Melo, Give up Lopez or Favors and get bounced in the first or second round and get mediocre picks. Hope for good cheap vets.
2) Continue rebuilding with young players, flexibility and draft picks. Give more time to Brook and Favors and keep our key role players: Farmar, Morrow and Hump. Get solid draft picks and once we are ready to go to BK, either make a play for a big time player, or just keep the players we already have depending on how much they’ve improved.

Personally I like option 2 a bit more mostly become we MUST give up Lopez or Favors for Melo, but if anyone else is involved then I am all for it.
Outlaw+Murphy+Twill+lots of picks for Melo. According to reports though, the Nets are dead set on getting Melo, in that case I would offer Lopez+Murphy+one or two draft picks.

PS- I hope the Melo rumors go away soon because it’s really annoying and repetitive.

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by Claud on Nov 22, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

+1 "PS- I hope the Melo rumors go away soon because it’s really annoying and repetitive".

…and boring !

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

neither

But my point was that the Nets front office to want Melo badly which leads me to pick Favors over Lopez.

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by Claud on Nov 22, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Waiting and waiting and waiting

for the perfect scenario to make a move for big time player is foolish, when that scenario is staring us directly in the face at the present moment. Just my take.

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by NetsKiNG on Nov 22, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets play handball

on Claud’s post…

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Did any of you guys ever play stick ball...

where you draw the batter’s box on the handball courts wall ?

I came from a deprived back round, so I know all those cheap street games….

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

No bit growing up in Newark

I can ball like Jordan with a crate basketball hoop

by nwkiddnj on Nov 22, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Enough of Melo I really realllllllly want to see James get over or atleast 20 minutes

I feel like we know what morrow is/gonna be and we know what ouse can do. T-Will and James really need to play heavier minutes I kno twill was hurt but let’s get him 25+ and get James in there why is Graham playing?

by nwkiddnj on Nov 22, 2010 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

DJames not playng is the biggest mystery of season.

And if there were to be a Melo trade, Nets need to know soon, where they stand with DJames.
Can he play some PF? Will he become better than Outlaw, thus making Travis expendable?

And if Nets don’t think DJames will be part of Nets future, then they should show him off to Nuggets – he could be the extra young piece that Nuggets want.

In any case, DJames must play. Get him out of the Doghouse.

(Can someone find a Big Doghouse?)

by jerry25 on Nov 22, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

For the record, TWill said he was already back to 100%. when he was inactive on Friday.

TWill asked Bondy to ask Avery to find out why he wasn’t playing (per Bond on Saturday).

TWill tried to play very cautiously Saturday, by passing up shots.
He even passed out (to Petro for a 3 point attempt) on a drive to basket.
That is a sign that TWill was too scared to upset Avery.

TWill looked the most serious I have ever seen him, on Saturday.
He was really trying to Focus, which will be good, once he gets back “in” with Avery.

Maybe Nets should all watch “The Karate (Kung Fu) Kid”. Jackie Chan keeps saying “Focus, Focus”.

by jerry25 on Nov 22, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Avery Johnson is "breaking" T-Will..

Breaking him down, to then build him back up, his way!

The Marines Corps does it all the time….

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Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

They already wiped that Big Smile off of his face.

He ain’t Gomer Pyle any more.
Well Golllliee Sargeant Carter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JAA2Unb0B4
Maybe Aunt B could explain things to TWill. Gomer Pyle was well before TWill’s time.

by jerry25 on Nov 22, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

If Avery makes him and doesn’t break him. That is my concern, also T-Will is used to tough coaching. Rick Pitino is a strict coach and Terrence still holds him in the highest regard.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, Brook fits the Gomer Pyle role better.

As ZZone writes in new story, Avery is tough on Brook.
I knew it would be that way, and that was one of the reasons I wanted Nets to hire Avery.

I sent this Gomer Pyle video to TWill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3LpriSmxM&NR=1

Hope he has a laugh and shares with Brook and teammates.
Hopefully Avery remembers Gomer Pyle – Knucklehead.

TWill was just serving Thanksgiving Dinner (per his tweet) and deserves a Pet on head.

by jerry25 on Nov 22, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

T-Will will be a better basketball player...

after AJ gets thru with him.

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

How about some pictures of Brook (Gomer) and Sargeant Carter (Avery)?

If more Nets fans would remember Gomer, this would all be much funnier.

by jerry25 on Nov 22, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

a little before my time... thank you google...

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by Chakroot on Nov 22, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Everything people watch now a days, is based on these Classics.

Right Aunt B?

PS As it turns out Avery was right all along about TWill.
Avery said he wasn’t 100% even though TWill insisted he was.

Now today, TWill says he woke up today and is fianally 100%.
He wasn’t completely honest before.

Avery knows best.

by jerry25 on Nov 22, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

"NEW" classics include:

The Wire.

that’s it. nothing like has been made before, and nothing like it will ever be made again. pure mastery of craft

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by Chakroot on Nov 22, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

The Wire

easily one of the best television series ever. It was like watching a novel unfold on screen. The characters and the way they interacted was top notch, and I loved how random things were.

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

indeed...

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by Chakroot on Nov 22, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Avery cares about

his players on and off the court. T-Will just wants to play, maybe he is worried about someone taking his minutes.
Jerry have you ever seen the movie “No Time for Sergeants” with Andy Griffith? The whole story plot is similar to Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

good to see

that Avery held him out because he knew Terrence was not ready physically.

Firm, but fair

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree jerry25

Those were some of the best shows. I still love to watch the reruns. It would be interesting to see the statistics on the ages of the posters on Netsdaily. I’m guessing the majority are age 25 or younger.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw some of No Time for Sergeants. There were other shows modeled after Gomer and Sgt. Carter.

BTW, I was about to display the funny “tinypic” of Avery, from Brady Bunch, and its been removed.

Instead, I have this video of Avery, and why he is the best and most dynamic coach in NBA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTsu—pVxVY

by jerry25 on Nov 22, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

I doubt T-Will has a clue who Gomer Pyle is dude

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

He will now, at least he will be curious for 1 minute if he clicks on his tweets.

But I’m sure Brook has been compared to Gomer before.

Maybe Avery will have a special showing for the team – Knuckleheads.

by jerry25 on Nov 22, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

hmph

maybe that’s a good sign if he doesn’t want to upset Avery. that’s a sign of respect.

Growing pains, sigh….he’ll get it.

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh no…

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/11/22/lakers-tragedy/index.html?rss=true

"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
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by Andy. on Nov 22, 2010 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

What a tragic story. I feel so sorry for the family.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Terribly sad

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by imdkidd on Nov 22, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

“For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s”

"People asking questions, lost in confusion
Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 22, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re best post of the day Michael.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

^ "your"

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

omg

that’s horrible. RIP

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

our co captains

If Dev and Brooklyn turned in more games like their better games – if they had been playing the way we really expect – we’d have a much better record. If these guys are going to be the NBA players we hope, they need to play their A game and turn in A performances at least 80% of the time. Right now it’s 20% and 0%.
These 2 didn’t just join the team. I want them to be the bedrock.

by PigDaddy3 on Nov 22, 2010 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

Harris lost some of his intensity after the Clippers game and Brook has been soft.

Both need to step up, play hard, and lead by example

this team lacks leadership on the floor. Devin is the oldest so he needs to be a leader. Brook is 22 but he has to play with some fire, some toughness. If he can give us 2/3rds of what The Hump brings every night emotionally he would be cracking skulls out there

Glad to hear Avery is not taking Brook’s crap. He needs to push him until he’s had enough of a 5’11 man kicking his teeth in and goes out on the court and fights back.

Stop being a coward Lopez. He’s played with more heart and desire in the past two years than he has after the first ORL game.

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree, that Orlando game done something to Brook. He has not been the same since.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe he needs to speak with a sports psychologist?

Seriously, it’s like he’s a totally different person. He showed some fire in our 2nd game against them but afterwards he’s just regressed.

I want the surly, angry Brook back that wasn’t afraid to play with his back to the basket and get to the line for some much needed FTA’s. This guy who is posing as him is an absolute kitten

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he has

some personal things he’s dealing with? For sure something isn’t right. Brook should really be starting to come into his own, with this being his third season ,instead he looks like a rookie.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

he's regressing...

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by Chakroot on Nov 22, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This!!!

The Playoffs is possible.. Impossible is nothing..
NETS BASKETBALL where Devin Harris happens..
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by silenthero07 on Nov 22, 2010 11:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Finnally done school for the day

Good to see you got the discussion started without me lol

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by Canadianetsfan on Nov 22, 2010 4:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

That's what we are here for...

You can get a great education, while we do the hard, dirty work on NetsDaily…

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Well I tell them there's no problem, only solutions"

by M I K E on Nov 23, 2010 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

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