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Six Months Into "The Prokhorov Era", He and Nets Rebuilding...Patiently

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It's been six months (and nine losses in 13 games) since Mikhail Prokhorov bought the Nets from Bruce Ratner after what seemed to be an interminable wait. 

Prokhorov has invested or committed about a half billion in the Nets, when the amounts he paid for pieces of the team and arena ($200 million), agreed to pay off in corporate debt ($175 million), accepted in future losses ($60 million) and invested in arena infrastructure ($77 million) are tallied up.  Then, there's the $4 million he's  committed to break the lease at the IZOD Center and the millions he's invested in basketball operations.

Most of that money, say team insiders, has long been transferred or spent.

Is he getting his moneys' worth? In terms of product on the court, no, not yet. In terms of positive publicity for his worldwide businesses, oh yes. It's inconceivable that "60 Minutes", the New York Times Sunday Magazine or Bloomberg TV would have spent so much time on him if he was still just the gold and aluminum baron of Siberia.  As he has said, it's the best business card in the world.

So how goes "The Prokhorov Era" for Nets fans?  Tighten the straps on your hard hat.  Lots of work left to do.

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The bottom line, and that's what counts for mega-billionaires, is that the team is still deep in rebuilding mode...but moving forward.  You don't go from 12-70 and playing in the NBA's worst venue to a championship in six months or a year.  Those close to Prokhorov will tell you that this is a work in progress, that you have to trust his innovative mind, his "good ideas".

Of course, he did raise expectations, in his initial message to fans "If everything goes as planned, I expect to be in the playoffs next season...and championship in one year minimum and maximum in five years."  Of course, it didn't go as planned.

Indeed, there have been some memorable highlights: the jaw-dropping "60 Minutes" profile; the classic interview with Mike Francesa; the audacious, in-your-face-Dolan "Blueprint for Greatness" billboard which let the Knicks know there will be a war for New York fans; the introductory press conference topped off with the famous response to a CNN reporter, "Please tell America, I come in peace"; the round-the-world preseason campaign that featured team photos in Red Square and on the Great Wall of China; the transatlantic jaunts in the Gulfstream V, and the 8,000-word New York Times profile that dropped just as he arrived in New Jersey for the season opener. We're also fond of the NJ Transit ride to the Kings game. All brilliant public relations and smart introduction.

Less publicized but more important for the team's future have been the hiring of Avery Johnson and Billy King; the upgrade in basketball operations staff, from 22 to 30 people, in a refurbished and technologically improved practice facility; the partnership with the Springfield Armor; the upgrade in "centers" from the Izod to the Prudential and the steady progress in the construction of a third, the Barclays. There's been a willingness to spend money in ways Ratner never spent it: adding $3 million to the Yi Jianlian salary dump to increase cap space for the pursuit of free agents, and the partial guarantees, totalling $635,000, given out to secure potential talent, $610,000 more than Ratner gave out in six years. 2,800 new season ticket packages sold! Jay-Z is back!! All good.

BUT the Nets finished third in the Draft Lottery, losing out on a franchise player in John Wall (although we're happy with the NBA's youngest player); failed to attract any top players in free agency; gave inflated contracts to lesser lights, which they admit was required to make even the smallest splash; and finally, have nothing to show for their long-running, public pursuit of Carmelo Anthony, which is now entering its third big month with no end in sight.  And while "The Rock" is a dramatic improvement over the Izod, the Nets rank 28th in raw attendance and 24th in percentage of seats filled...in spite of big discount deals with ticket re-sellers. Jay-Z has only been to one game.  To make matters worse, the Knicks just had their most successful West Coast swing ever while the Nets had a frustrating, mediocre run in the Pacific and Mountain time zones. So much for the "Blueprint for Greatness".

What to make of it all? Money, even smartly spent, isn't going to produce immediate results. Prokhorov has already had to step back from his playoff prediction (promise?) and simply say, the team "will be better with time".  He talks instead of Plans A through D.

Disconcerting? Maybe. Realistic? Yep. 

We recently took a look at the history of the 76ers, whose 1972-73 season was the touchstone for the Nets last season.  That team, as everyone knows, won nine games, three fewer than the 2000-10 Nets. The next year, with four rookies, they won 25, then 34 before returning to the playoffs in 1975-76, winning 46. Over the next seven years, the 76ers went to the finals four times, winning it in 1982-83, the tenth anniversary of their season of historic inepitude. 

Prokhorov's own record with CSKA Moscow was similar. When he bought the team in 1997, it was nearly bankrupt. By 2001, CSKA was in the Euroleague Final Four, returning EVERY year but one through 2008, when he was forced to sell it. Twice, in 2006 and 2008, CSKA won it all. Since he left, they've been back to the Final Four twice more, relying mainly on the players his people signed.

In the case of the 76ers and CSKA, the owners hired smart managers and coaches, spent money on talent and were very patient. Of course, the Nets don't play in Philadelphia or Moscow. They play in the New York market, where patience is not exactly a virtue...and in two years,  they'll need to fill a new arena in Brooklyn.

Still, Andrei Kirilenko, who played for CSKA Moscow, thinks his old boss has the right idea, as long as everyone is as patient as he is: "If he’s got the time, like three, four years, he’s really going to wait. He is going to work hard every year to get those free agents but he is really patient. I mean REALLY patient."

It would be wise for fans to be just as patient.

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It is important to keep everything in perspective. Last years Nets won only 12 games. This years version, which is a complete overhaul, needs time — a lot of time — to gel. I get as upset as anyone when they sustain tough losses like last night (or the Jazz game …. Or Kings … Or ….), but it is part of the long protracted process of building a team, some chemistry, and learning to win. The pieces are coming in to place, and we just need to remind ourselves to be patient. I, for one, and extremely excited about our young core, outstanding ownership and the future in Brooklyn. The wins will come in due time.

by nynjlawyer on Nov 21, 2010 11:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

we will improve but are we going in the right direction

I really hope their is a plan B. If melo ends up somewhere else where are our other options???

I already seen how Plan B looks.

Outlaw & Petro

by killa kadafi191 on Nov 21, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

Is this article damage control?

Don’t worry. I’m not panicked nor am I frustrated about the 1-3 West coast trip. I say we should be 6-7 rather than 4-9. Not a big deal.

Nets = Global
Knicks = Local

by BigTom on Nov 21, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

Not damage control

it was six months ago this weekend that he arrived in the US for the first time. Seemed appropriate…particularly in the face of the madness concerning Brook Lopez.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

OK, cool :)

Yes, madness is an appropriate term to use. I agree.

Nets = Global
Knicks = Local

by BigTom on Nov 21, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

and about 10 well placed additional points and Nets are 8-5

Nets weren’t supposed to be a playoff team without Murphy.

Now they have been without Murphy, TWill and DJames essentially and seem to be able to compete with every team, right through the 4th quarter. Much different from last season.

by jerry25 on Nov 21, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure there would be some still complaining even if we were 8-5. I agree about the team and their competitive nature right through the 4th quarter. They have a desire to win, sure they have come up short a few times, but they are learning how to put themselves in a position to win.

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 21, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i think the avery factor is deserving of the credit

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If you don't look at the record, this Nets team is much better than the one that began the season 2-0.

Outlaw finally moved his legs, per Avery, and I agree he looked better than on his 27 pt. game. Did anyone notice his block (was called a goal tend) and monster dunk, that he couldn’t do at the start of the season?

In a short time, Avery Johnson has already turned the Nets into one of the better defensive teams in the NBA!
That isn’t damage control, it is true.

People are getting ridiculous with Lopez, being way underweight and conditioned, but still only 22 1/2 years young.

Brook was getting 9-10 FT per game before. Players don’t regress like that.
Brook will be fine and after a summer of REAL conditioning, he will finally be where Nets fans want him to be.
The guy never missed a NBA game.

TWill, Murphy and DJames are yet to be properly integrated into the Nets plans.
There is lots of additional room for improvement over the next month ….

And come Dec 15 – Christmas ….. (its Billy King time).

by jerry25 on Nov 21, 2010 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

Proky stinks.

Brook stinks. Outlaw stinks. Harris stinks. Favors stinks. When James finally gets minutes, he’ll stink, too. Farmar stinks. Hump is gonna stink when Kardashian dumps him for Yi.

Sly stinks. Sussman stinks. The Prudential stinks. Avery stinks.

We’re a terrible team, we need a high scorer. We need a rebounder. We need a defender. We need passer.

Am I doing it right?

by JohnFromLongIsland on Nov 21, 2010 11:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

You forgot Mini-Sly. He stinks, too. But at least he still has some room to grow.

by Andres B on Nov 21, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

"Stink, Stank, Stunk"

"You go to my head and you linger like a haunting refrain
And I find you spinning 'round in my brain
Like the bubbles in a glass of champagne"...

by aunt-B on Nov 21, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

What I would like to see, is current video from Barclays, as it has been a few weeks.

In Melo’s interview with ZZone, he specifically says Brooklyn in 2-3 years.
Soon there should be “concrete” (and steel) evidence that Barclays is ahead of schedule.

Hope Tracy Collins has something to show us, unless he doesn’t like to show good news anymore.

by jerry25 on Nov 21, 2010 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

I would too

the Barclays Center showroom in the Times Building, where they sell sponsorships and suites, has a real time webcam streaming construction progress. Why that isn’t featured prominently on the Nets site or the Barclays Center site is beyond me.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I would think it will be on the websites

Once steel is in the ground. More to look at.

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by NetLogic on Nov 21, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

In case anyone missed, there was some sort of post game interview where Melo praised the Nets players and effort.

ZZone included it in his late report. Not sure if it was a personal interview.
He praised Morrow and Lopez.

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/112110_Carmelo_Anthony_shows_Nets_what_theyre_missing.html?c=y&page=1

There was another interview on NBATV but Melo just gave his usual lines about playing hard once the game begins and shutting out all the noise.

by jerry25 on Nov 21, 2010 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

I saw that

I don’t think it matters too much. He knows what we have. I do think our effort was great last night and it was good to hear him talk positively about Avery.

Section 129 2010-2011 @ the ROCK

by NetsKiNG on Nov 21, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I see you were over at Denver Stiffs.

I’m done for day, have apologized enough for Lopez and Nets.

Now we need to hope Nuggets lose as many games as possible in next month, which we don’t have control of.
If Nets are as bad as people say, that should be no problem.
Nuggets show little enthusiasm on the road (eg Portland loss).

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2010/11/21/1827386/nets-vs-nuggets-recap-the-nuggets-giveth-but-the-nets-dont-taketh-away#comments

Last night proved to Nuggets FO that
1. Favors is REAL and
2. should have proven to Melo (if he forgives Brook’s softness) that Nets would be a very good to elite team if he was added for Favors+Murphy. No way Knicks impressed Melo more, considering Knicks would have to trade several key players and Amare is getting older and his knee could wear out soon.

by jerry25 on Nov 21, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post, NI!

Sums up the situation quite nicely. Proky sure did overpromise and the Marbury-Kidd deal made people think that another overnight transformation might be possible.

As for the 76ers going from worst to first, didn’t they do so at the Nets’ expense by acquiring Dr. J as the price of New Jersey’s entry into the NBA?

by jsg on Nov 21, 2010 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

they didn't acquire him as the price of NJ entering the NBA

the knicks charged a fee for entering their market and the only way to raise the money was to trade him for cash.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Stay the Course!

This team is growing. I am happy, yes happy with these losses. Of course I want to see the Nets 11-2 and dominating games but we are not there yet.

I see favors 14-8 and his offense is getting better and better. he is using his body to get position and getting good looks.

Lopez is becoming a C version of dirk with less range. we need to let that go for now. he will get a bigger body and learn to get his 8-11 rebounds a game.

Lets get 2 high draft picks from us and golden state and keep building.

I love where we are

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by Mike Viola on Nov 21, 2010 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

does anyone know exactly what draft picks we have for next year?

is it just the additional GS pick, plus what we would normally have?

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

here

2011 – Nets have their own first round pick and two second round picks, their own and the Warriors (Marcus Williams).

2012 – Nets have their own first round pick, the Warriors first round pick, protected 1-7 (Marcus Williams), their own second round pick, the Heat second round pick (Alston) and the Bulls second round pick (CDR). Bucks had acquired the Bulls pick in an earlier trade.

The Warriors are improving and so it is likely the Nets will get that pick. If not, it is protected 1-7 again in 2013, protected 1-6 in 2014. If it is still not exercised by 2014, it turns into two second round picks in 2014 and 2016. The Heat and Bulls picks obviously will be very low.

Reports were that the Nets were offering the Nuggets their own pick in 2011 and the Warriors pick in 2012.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

ahhh great. thanks

so all the comments talking about the Nets giving away two first-round picks…. one would be from 2011 and the other would be for 2012?

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Newark is meaningless; Brooklyn is all that matters

From the standpoint of “pressure” to perform, Newark is meaningless….there are no (media or other) expectations of this squad…and we shouldn’t have any either.

The goal should be to have a competitive squad by the time we get to Brooklyn. That being said, if we were on a similiar trajectory as the 72-73 76ers, I would be thrilled with winning 25 games this year (doubling our win total), 34 next year and making the playoffs our first year in Brooklyn.

Of course, to really mirror the 6ers, we need our own Dr. J…..and if we only win 25 games this year, we may be in the running to select a certain young small forward from Chapel HIll, NC next June on draft day….fingers crossed!

by corey447 on Nov 21, 2010 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

what makes newark relevant is its proximity to NYC...

fans that make the trip from manhattan to newark can also make the equally short trip to brooklyn in two years. its obviously not as good as having a brand new stadium to play in, and the negative stigma that surrounds Newark doesn’t help, but i think its a type of dry run for BK

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

you want Manhattanites to understand the Nets, like the Knicks, are a short train ride away.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Newark should be the new home for the Nets

The Nets should have came to Newark when the idea was floated on for the first time back in 2000. If that was the case, then attendance would have risen, and people would have a better way of getting there if they didn’t drive. Newark is the main center if pretty much all transporation in the state of NJ for both trains and buses. I have mentioned in the past how people wherever they live in the state can get there to either Newark-Penn Station or Newark-Broad Street depending on where they are comming from. The reason why Newark was brought up originally a decade ago was mainly because the Meadowlands felt more like an isolated place that only cars can reach. Also, there were many major highways that it would easily be accessible from to keep the traffic residual. I can guarantee that both pregame and postgame traffic in Brooklyn will not be residual, because the location is not near a major highway and requires about 20 blocks from either Flatbush or Atlantic Avenues to get to the BQE compared to where the Nets are right now. As for fans, many of them would be way too loyal to the Knicks to convert to the Nets just because they move there, so they will be a minority.

by Tal Barzilai on Nov 21, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

THis again?

-Say man when I was growing up we wanted a Jacuzzi, we had to fart in the tub.

by NetLogic on Nov 21, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope we don't pull a Isiah and mortgage our future for Melo

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark

by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah I don't get how they can say Prokhy's patient

and then simultaneously say he’s offering the moon for Melo…um obviously he must not be that patient.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

or just basketball dumb

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark

by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

or he's not offering the "moon" for Melo

Derrick Favors is not “the moon”. Two draft picks which are likely to be late lottery or beyond is not “the moon”.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

not an isiah

Isiah mortgaged the future for MARBURY and CURRY and HOUSTON.

NONE of those are the same or similar to any deal the Nets would make for Anthony.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Marbury and Houston were nothing but scorers

none of them had any effect on interior D while playing all of them top $. Sounds similar to Melo for me.

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by msm2 on Nov 21, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Marbury had had surgery on both his ankles

and is an alcoholic, which everyone knew after he served time for it in Arizona. He had never won a thing and spent most of his career on losing teams because of his personality and his selfishness.

Houston was given a $103 million, seven year deal.

If you don’t see the difference, I’m sorry.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

How much would we pay Melo after the extension?

Maybe not as much but a boatload for a while for a guy who has ZERO titles! Never won more than 45 games without a dominate big. You’re right it won’t be a seven year mistake only 5 years.

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by msm2 on Nov 21, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

only 3 years, since Melo would leave us for Knicks

With Melo, we’ll be at best 50 win team and 2nd round fodder for next 3 years.

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark

by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless Brook and Harris

Step up, we are looking at 25-30 wins… we should be good enough to have a top 5 pick.
Lopez+Favors+Top 5 pick is a solid foundation

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by Claud on Nov 21, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The draft is like SEVEN months away!

7 whole months, were patient but apparently 7 months is pushing our patience limit.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

lol I love college hoops anyway so I'm good

As long as we’re playing hard and going the right direction, I’m cool. People who thought this was a playoffs team were fooling themselves. Lopez had a horrible summer with Mono and that disease completely sucks your energy out and you lose so much mass is not even funny(I know, I had it). People are underestimating mono IMO. Lopez needs one good summer hitting the weights and getting in shape, but he didn’t have a chance to do that this past summer so it’s obvious he looks weaker and gets pushed around now. Favors has looked A LOT better than I expected during his rookie year. Harris is Harris so we know what we have in him, I don’t really consider him part of the core. Twill and DJ should be getting more PT because guess what? We ain’t winning this year so you might as well give the kids time to play and get better on the court… also one last thing, I love the Morrow and Farmar signings, Like the Outlaw signing although is 2 years too much for my taste, and cannot understand the Petro signing but whatever.

Next year we will have our own first and second round picks PLUS GSW’S pick… but can anyone provide info on the golden state pick? Is it a 2nd rounder this year or a first rounder?

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by Claud on Nov 21, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah I agree im being sarcastic

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 4:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

And who knows

maybe after the new CBA and our Melo extension that could make up for the 2 year mistake difference.

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by msm2 on Nov 21, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

The team will be over the cap once they trade for and extend Melo

and they will only have 3 years to build a team around him while they are in cap hell and with a reduced amount of assets

You can’t expect people not to assume that the future is being mortgaged.

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Have you guys read the fanhouse article stating that Denver is pushing for Lopez instead of Favors now?

I love the big Disney but if we can get Melo and KEEP Favors then we should definitely go for it. Favors is already stronger and faster than Lopez in the post and most of his shots look good plus he will only get better with time. If Favors becomes the starter and continues to improve on O, 15/10 the rest of the way is not out of the question.

Lopez+Murphy+ picks for Melo should be enough right?

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by Claud on Nov 21, 2010 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

got my vote

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark

by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

X2

You can build around a player like Lopez or you can build around a player like Carmelo. You try to build around 2 players like then and you’re just going to end up with a hot mess.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 3:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Though watching Carmelo in the

Let Harris dribble for 20 seconds juggernaut offense we’ve got going would be worth any price tag.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 3:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Don't put it past the Nets FO

for us to hear rumors about packaging Favors+Harris for CP3 or Deron

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark

by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

not sure how I feel about swapping Lopez+Favors for Carmelo+CP3

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark

by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we just leave Carmelo home

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 3:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

apparantly, Carmelo is the linchpin to entire Formerly Known As NJ Nets Franchise

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

What kind of offense are we running? "iso... iso-sorry" -NetsNewark

by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Nets want him

and even if all of you post 5,000 more times that it’s a bad idea, saying the same things over and over in every thread, it still won’t make a difference.

there are people here who are OBSESSED with this debate and in my opinion, it is ruining the discussion in general.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

when faced with a fantasy of a quick transformation

or the realization that this team is not going to be a basketball FORCE for many years….

people prefer the fantasy.

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Well apparently were prefering

The wrong fantasy, were supposed to be talking about all the championships Carmelo, harris and outlaw are going to lead us to.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 4:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

it makes me cringe thinking of Harris + Melo offense.

But honestly Melo doesn’t want to be on this team.

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

this

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

i get it, NI will continue to raise Proky's "patience" when we suffer thru 3 yrs of stagnant 2nd round exits with Melo

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

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by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont understand why you think

This has anything to do with the discussion. We know the nets want him, you post 40 articles a day about it how could we not know. No one is having a discussion about whether or not they want him, what would be the point of that? Exactly what discussion do you think we’re having or should be having? Should we just be talking about how awesome prokhy is and how awesome we’ll be with melo and how awesome everything is? It sounds like you just dont want any actual discussion.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 4:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Gina, you just are not being a good Net fan.

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Gina, don't you know good little girls, like good little Nets fans, aren't supposed to question authority

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

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by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean I just really don't get it

if nearly every article is about Carmelo or prokhy…what are we supposed to talk about aside from Carmelo and prokhy? And I mean are we supposed to forget the 40 articles about Carmelo when presented with a counterpoint?

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

40 articles a day???

never posted 10 in any day on any subject ever…but thanks.

I’m sure that you can find a lot of other things to post about if you focused on them, but you are prefer to focus on Melo…and we would certainly never delete comments purely because they are repetitive.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

net income stop posting about melo. every rational human being knows he is going to be a Knick.

by duhmecca on Nov 21, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

At least NI isnt writting those articles….its Al Iannazzones fault

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by Andy. on Nov 21, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Amazingly wow

“Every rational human being”???

Nets = Global
Knicks = Local

by BigTom on Nov 21, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

to 3pt chucker

i love favors
but not wanting to swap him and lopez out for cp3 and melo is chiquita bananas

might not be realistic but if it was, it’s a no brainer

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Nov 21, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

¡Yo quiero Taco Bell!

as i said i’m not sure how i feel about it. i’d go along with it and feel really guilty.

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

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by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Nov 21, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 4:01 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

i'm stealing this for future use

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

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by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

lol did ND/NI just delete the PokerDogs? lol

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

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by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

yes.

i apologize if i did something wrong there.

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

you MUST repent and be a good docile Nets fan

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

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by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i didn't think it was offensive in any way...

and to think, i had to sign up for a Twitpic account because i didn’t know any other way to get that image from my hard drive to my friends here at NetsDaily

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Try to post it again

I’ve noticed other photos disappearing on Netsdaily lately. I really want to see what you did with the Poker Pooches.

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by aunt-B on Nov 21, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

okay, here it goes... please don't ban me

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe you need to resize it

so it’s not so big? On a lit of browsers big images will really slow down loading for some users.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Also for that same reason you should give images titles

so other users can hide them if it’s slowing the thread down for them.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

check the bottom of the comments...

its there full-sized

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah in saying you shouldn't

post them full sized.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That's awesome!!!!!

That deserves a special place of its own on Netsdaily…Great job!

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by aunt-B on Nov 21, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice Work.

Post it again and again with every Melo thread.

by jerry25 on Nov 22, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

the 2011 draft sucks by the way

and will get worse with a lockout looming.

Best to give up the pick this year but hang on to all five picks in 2012 (two first, three second) because that’s when all the kids who decided they didnt want to risk the lockout will be available, setting up 2012 as a great draft

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-afterthebuzzer111210

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

of course

and that is what Spears is saying. what’s the point of declaring for the draft if there is a possibility that the league won’t even play games in 2011-12…and that IS a possibility, considering what the owners want.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It has potential to get very messy

for everyone.

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by Claud on Nov 21, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

okay...

but a shortened NBA season is still better than a college season for any player’s development… and they’re getting paid. why would they risk an injury in college when they could at least have a signed contract?

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That being said....

If the NBA experiences a lockout the ONLY basketball will be college basketball. Playing in college under those circumstances, and dominating there, will do everything to booze your market value and name. Being a star in college that year might very well mean serious $$$$$.

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

ha

“to boost”

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

but if the negotiations lead to smaller player salaries...

will one year of college ball make that big of a difference?

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

how?

You ain’t getting a contract under the old CBA either way.

A great, much watched year in college could move you UP in several spots, which means $$$$

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

injuries... or a drop-off in play...

not that football is parallel with basketball, but mark engram comes to mind.

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

why bring football up then?

Players are confidence machines. They don’t go out thinking they are going to suck (or be injured).

There is no big pay day for coming out, especially if the lockout comes.

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

of course they don't plan for terrible things to happen...

but they still do.

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought we are talking about

what real people are likely to decide, and not what Chakroot thinks they should do.

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

if i need to write "IMO" every time i say something...

its going to get old pretty quickly. why the hostility?

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

You moved from discussion what will motivate young college players in a special year (the threat of a lockout), to talking about things that could be said of every year.

OBVIOUSLY the threat of injury is there EVERY year, but I thought we were talking about the uniqueness of this year.

You started sounding like you were trying to convince players to come out.

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m saying that financial uncertainty, to me, is playing basketball without having a signed contract

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

that is the case every year.

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

wrong

it is the difference between playing professionally where if you get hurt, you still get paid, and choosing to play another year as an amateur and if you get hurt, you not only dont get paid, but see a reduction in your long term earning power.

It is unique and it has to be a consideration.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

So why would anyone play...

… college ball at all?

Brandon Jennings certainly showed that HS=>Euro ball=>NBA is an alternate to going the “amateur” NCAA route.

by fly75 on Nov 21, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I was wondering why no one pointed out that some of these kids can opt to get paid over in Europe

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

why do you think it will be shortened and not cancelledq

and remember, these kids cant legally talk to agents about it.

The baseball season in 1994 was lost and the hockey season in 2004 was lost.

It is possible.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

you're right, its definitely a possibility...

we can only hope it doesn’t come to that. but with regards to the article you posted the link to, i don’t think anyone would agrue that bibby made the right career move, given the options he had to choose from

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It's all relative IMO

If we get Melo before xmas then yeah trade both picks because neither pick will ever be a top 5 pick BUT If our record is REALLY bad and we’re guaranteed to be in the top 5 then I would not trade the pick, even for Melo.

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by Claud on Nov 21, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

top five in this years draft

may not be as good as last year’s top 10 or lottery.

one saving grace may be the strong overseas class who don’t risk much by declaring.

by Net Income on Nov 21, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Brook and Harris have not hooked up for one Alleyoop this season. Last season they connected all the time. Whats going on with that??

by power_njerz on Nov 21, 2010 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

Lopez is soft

Not a huge fan early in the season.

What’s up NI?

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:25 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

how many times are you going to post this?

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

doing it for Aunt-B… it’ll get taken down soon enough

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks so much!

I’m gonna save it in case it gets taken down.

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by aunt-B on Nov 21, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Love that look on Proky's face.

And Jay-Z likes the hand that Proky has.

by jerry25 on Nov 22, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Give images titles when you post them please.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

okay okay...

i call this one “who’s bluffing” lol

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

No I mean like write something in this box up here

Cause if you click on that you can hide the image. But without it people can’t. And big images slow down loading for some users. Even if you just put a period.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

watching this unfold is like watching the Nets

run an offense with Farmar and TWill on the bench.

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

i got it i got it…

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

You're like Harris taken it to the hole.

Go Harris! Go!

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

No no

youre supposed to pretend to take to the hole and then step back and dribble some more.

Unless it’s the 4th quarter, then you pick a defender and run into an pretend youre shooting.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

just waiting for an injury.

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

wow this took a harsh turn pretty quickly...

this was NOT my intention when creating that image

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

not towards you

both Gina and I are not fans of Avery’s Harris “offense”

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by kv on Nov 21, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

oh really?

i thought you two loved harris’s “game”

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

RECd

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by NetLogic on Nov 21, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

FYI

Deleted that whole string of posts that started with someone trying to tell others here that they’re “clueless.” That same string got someone else, who already had multiple warnings about disrespectful discussion, banned.

Also, we don’t remove those images. They somehow disappear automatically. I can’t see any of the instances in this thread.

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by NetsDaily on Nov 21, 2010 6:13 PM EST reply actions  

Good Job

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by Andy. on Nov 21, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

i think i know who you are talking about

_

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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Nov 21, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The Nuggets are now pushing for center Brook Lopez in any trade with the Nets that would send All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony to New Jersey, according to a league source.

For months, Denver was reportedly insisting on the inclusion of rookie Derrick Favors in any Anthony deal.

LETS DO IT!!

by RandyOreens on Nov 21, 2010 6:26 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

You know what I think is funny

that the raptors and cavs despite many people thinking things were over have done okay and better than the Nets.

The Raptors beat Boston today.

by killa kadafi191 on Nov 21, 2010 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

did not play

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by Andy. on Nov 21, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

As Avery

said the Nets lack the mental toughness to do that.

I seriously think we could end up with the second worse record in the east.

I wonder how patient will The Russian be

by killa kadafi191 on Nov 21, 2010 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

AK47

said he is a very patient man

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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Nov 21, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

in the words of Gina

i don’t know how patient he is.

With all the melo talk. Not saying we don’t need him but still I wonder if melo goes somewhere else where are we left.

it starting to seem like melo or bust

by killa kadafi191 on Nov 21, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

In my opinion

the Nets will do whatever it takes trade wise to get him…and we have the assets to do it.

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by NetsKiNG on Nov 21, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Barbosa will be a free agent

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by Andy. on Nov 21, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he would be great next to harris…we desperately need a slasher.

but i want to give twill a chance…i think he will soon get it together and replace morrow as a starter.

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by Andy. on Nov 21, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Im starting to believe in Farmar…I trust him when he has the ball

Hes ability to hit the three really helps.

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by Andy. on Nov 21, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

he is the best at swinging the ball

that was the key pass IMO on the last play that lopez missed. farmar’s pass to outlaw was swung so quickly and efficiently that the D rotated a hair slow

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by Gminski on Nov 21, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

We really do need that wing scorer if we want to improve..

Melo provides that. Is he going to get us rings by himself? of course not but he will make us much better and established. Lopez or Favors + Harris and whoever is left will definitely have an easier time now that Melo can take the pressure off of them. It also provides us with an established NBA superstar, because like him or not, that’s what the population believes. We wll get our games televised national and overall more respect, etc.
This deal makes a lot of sense BUT only at the right price… I’d still prefer to keep Favors over Lopez but that’s just me.
Lopez+Murphy+2 picks for Melo
Harris/Farmar
Morrow/Twill
Melo/Outlaw
Hump/Outlaw OR Cool Joe
Favors/Petro

We’d be a little thin up front but we can either sign some cheap FA or use picks to fill those needs.

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by Claud on Nov 21, 2010 7:47 PM EST reply actions  

Cant believe you guys would trade Lopez….

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by Andy. on Nov 21, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Kevin Durant was on a 20 win team

him AND Westbrook were on a 23 win team. Blake Griffin is going to be on a team that will be lucky to break 20 wins this year.

It’s not that simple.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Let melo become a free agent and if he want to play for us great

but denver should be the ones desperate not us…

Brook overrated…come on man. Hes 22 yrs old and he is BEING DOUBLE TEAMED…once he figures that out he will be much better.

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by Andy. on Nov 21, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Those are over…ever since jason kidd left man

IMO we are one player away….but its very important to keep lopez and favors.

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by Andy. on Nov 21, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say I wouldn't trade him for Melo

I said your argument made no sense.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I love when people bring up the 12 win team stuff

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Lopez for Melo yes

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by Claud on Nov 21, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

and you know nuggets would do that in a heart beat

that should tell u something

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by Andy. on Nov 21, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Why would he come to us though?

Bulls or Knicks look much better on paper so far… it could change but idk

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by Claud on Nov 21, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would he come to us though?

dont think he does…and hope he doesnt

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by Andy. on Nov 21, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Farmar has taken big strides as the backup point guard

but after Twill went down and Devin played some with Farmar it seems Devin lost his playmaking ability.

7 turnovers the other night… Hopefully he was just off and plays better next week.

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by universal on Nov 21, 2010 7:52 PM EST reply actions  

Farmar outplayed Harris, easily, over the road trip.

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by Andy. on Nov 21, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt the top prospects won't declare for this next draft

The guys that aren’t sure if they’ll go in the first round have a good chance of not declaring, but not the guys who are sure of their draft spot to some degree.

They might not get paid immediately, but getting drafted means 4 years of financial security after 1 year of waiting, which is good enough for some players. Not to mention the pressure they’ll be facing from agents, family, and friends to declare; like how Daniel Orton and Hassan Whiteside were convinced to declare far too early and paid the price.

If you’re already projected to be the top pick, what reason is there left to stay? Get assured of money, and don’t risk the chance to lose it all.

by muwu on Nov 21, 2010 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

Monte Ellis?

Golden State’s Gm would be fired if he made that trade.

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by universal on Nov 21, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

is this comment lost?

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

wait what price did Orton pay?

he got a guarenteed contract, and went in about the area he was expected too.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I think the expectation was that he was a lottery pick

That was what everyone was talking about and what I’m sure he was told

by muwu on Nov 21, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

eh the difference in money isn't really that significant

slipping from the first to the second is the big deal because of the lack of a guaranteed contract. if you get a guaranteed contract you’re pretty much “set” regardless of where you were picked. I doubt he’s crying because he got 1.5 million instead of 2.3 million.

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that a picture of Prokhorov in Madame Tussauds?

"(Lopez) wasn't as aggressive as he needed to be," Johnson said afterward when asked if he was encouraged by Lopez's 10 rebounds. "Again, (he had) 10 rebounds but the biggest one we didn't get, which was on the free throw."

by Tim823 on Nov 21, 2010 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

Michael Vick

he is going to be a free agent, he would improve our quickness in the backcourt

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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Nov 21, 2010 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

he's taking his talents to South Beach

Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.

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by 3ptChucker on Nov 21, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Nov 22, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

he dribbles too much

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by Gina on Nov 21, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

mike vick doesn't rebound...

and can’t play a lick of defense

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by Chakroot on Nov 21, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm so pissed that the Giants lost that game

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by MrDollarBills on Nov 22, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Random question... when is Prokhorovs globilization of the nets

Going to encompass the country directly to the north?

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by Canadianetsfan on Nov 21, 2010 10:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

All in due time. Think local act global…Proky is laying the foundation for success, not only here but abroad, and that takes time. After all Rome wasn’t built in a day. Lol, I believe that took over 800 years to complete.

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by aunt-B on Nov 22, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Proky is the man!

Proky made Brooklyn really happen and has laid the groundwork for the basketball side to improve. THE RAT was a terrible owner, and tied THORN’S hands and stuck us with Coach KIKI.But Proky, please don’t trade Favors or Brook. Let’s build through medium level trades and the draft and quality scouting. I want to watch Favors and Brook and the rest of the kids grow up big and strong. I dream, eat and sleep NJ NETS. Hopefully, I can dream some more tonight and will try to go back to sleep. GO PROKY! GO NETS! GO JETS! GO TO SLEEP!

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by PaulErstein on Nov 22, 2010 2:26 AM EST reply actions  

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