Game 4 - Nets vs. Bobcats - Wednesday, November 3, 7:00
by Net Income on Nov 2, 2010 5:30 PM EDT
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PrintThe Bobcats aren't just winless. They are nearly defenseless. The team that led the league in defensive efficiency last season ranks 29th going into Tuesday's action.
Offensively, they start top scorers Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace on the wings but down the middle, the Nets could have an advantage. Larry Brown has been starting Nazr Mohammed at center, but may switch to DeSagana Diop or even Boris Diaw to gets some offensive punch. Another matchup where the Nets could do well is at the point. D.J. Augustin has been playing well, but his backups are Shaun Livingston and Sherron Collins, the undrafted rookie. The Nets will again be facing a player who decided against joining them this summer: Tyrus Thomas.
The game is especially significant for one Net. Anthony Morrow is a Charlotte native.
- New Jersey Nets Game Notes - New Jersey Nets
- Charlotte Bobcats Game Notes - Charlotte Bobcats
- Getting Inside - New Jersey Nets - Sports Xchange
- Getting Inside - Charlotte Bobcats - Sports Xchange
- Bobcats-Nets Preview - Stats LLC
- Murphy may make Nets debut tonight - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Troy Murphy hopes to make Nets debut tonight - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- Nets look forward to Murphy - Ebenezer Samuel - New York Daily News
- Is Troy Murphy going to play for the Nets tonight? We'll soon find out - Colin Stephenson - Star-Ledger
- Slow start leads to strong finishes? - Rick Bonnell - Charlotte Observer
- Nets' Morrow burrows in for 3-pointers - Ron Green Jr. - Charlotte Observer
- Gameday: Bobcats at Nets, 7 p.m. Wednesday - Rick Bonnell - Charlotte Observer
- Nets' Bench Makes Its Mark - Alex Raskin - HoopsWorld
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lol
Funny pic!
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
hopefully
we force a lot of turnovers and win handily
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
This is a winnable game. Hopefully we take advantage before the road trip of death.
I was supposed to start but I left my jersey in the locker room, so he got to start...So did you outplay him after that? I won MVP. - Derrick Favors
Interesting, I must have missed the game five months ago. I also didn’t know that both the Nets and Bobcats made the ECF last year.
I can’t believe I missed the game in June.
I was supposed to start but I left my jersey in the locker room, so he got to start...So did you outplay him after that? I won MVP. - Derrick Favors
last year the only team we could beat
was the bobcats
"The Nets, by the way, are the best team in the league in limiting opponent rebounds."
Thank-You-Favors.
"Nobody in the league can guard you one-on-one," Johnson bellowed from the sideline. "It's an insult to you if they try."
2-80
Happy we dont have Tyrus Thomas
He made a bad mistake though staying in North Carolina when he can be in a big city watched by everyone.
June?
I do believe we’re in November. I wish it was really June though.
We should all copy your sig MrDB.
has anyone create a pettion yet?
"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"
+1
I changed my tag a few days ago. My season ticket rep said everyone who works for the nets reads this site. I also heard some even post under random aliass
Do me a FAVORS...no Melo
Section 3f Row AA.
its easy to limit opponent rebounds
when you let them make all their shots
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
by Gina on Nov 2, 2010 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
that's low... but true lol
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
Got crappy seats for this game going w/ a few friends
Hope there is at least a decent turnout.
Section 129 2010-2011 @ the ROCK
This team is missing one piece
to be a top team in my Opinion in the near future. I don’t know if the answer is Melo – Harris and Favors. if I were the G.M. of this team
1. Favors would be pulled off the table, and forget about Melo unless its for James, Murphy and Picks.
2.I would start looking to upgrade the Wing position either getting a two or a three that can take the pressure off Harris and Lopez (someone like Kevin Martin or Gerald Wallace.)
Well, that didn't take long
16 comments until you-know-who is mentioned.
by calling all toasters on Nov 2, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Im gonna get drafted by the Nets next year
Me and Favors are singlehandedly gonna bring a championship to NJ i our last year here….HOLLA
81-1
by CinnamonToastCrunch on Nov 2, 2010 6:27 PM EDT reply actions
I'll buy your jersey :)
You've gone a million miles... How far'd you get
To that place where you can't remember... And you can't forget
hire LRMR and strongarm your way to Miami
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
I'll be there
In my normal seat this game.
Courtsides for the Kings was incredible though.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
They're tougher than us at the 2 and 3
but the rest of that team is awful. Very winnable game.
Yup I looked at their entire roster
they have a whole bunch of overpaid D-Leaguers Matt Carrol, Eduardo Najera, Diop, Muhammed, livingston etc. Jackson, Wallace, Agustine, Diaw and Maybe Henderson/Thomas IMO are the only players that should be in the NBA from that roster.
we have Outlaw
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
This is a must win!
This is a game we have to have. The next 5 games i have us penciled to win 3. The bobcats and cavs games. We are going to lose to the heat and magic.
We must beat the lesser teams to maintain a .500 %.
I think the Magic are beatable
Harris>Nelson
Carter?Morrow
Whoever this is>Outlaw
Lewis=Murphy
Howard=Lopez
Benches, either can win, although on paper Orlando’s is better
positivity at its best!
nets could use it too lol
Well if Lopez puts D12 in to foul trouble.. we can win..
Favors and Murphy IMO is better than Anderson and Lewis.. Harris is better than Jameer but Nelson knows how to play D..
I React
I Criticize
I Idolize
hahaha so biased
Harris > Nelson
Morrow < Carter
Outlaw < Richardson
Murphy < Lewis
Lopez < Howard
the problem here is Lopez doesn't equal Howard
or even close.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
not really
VC’s contract was awful, we got cap room and a young player back, that’s more than could have been expected. They’d tried to move him at the two previous deadlines and teams wouldn’t even offer expiring contracts.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
the actual
idea of the trade was very good, and i agree with getting rid of VC. But Rafer Alston, Tony Battie, and Courtney Lee? I was very big on Courtney Lee when the trade first when done, but Alston and Battie should’ve been left out. Talent wise, we lost out big time
eh I disagree
VC is pretty much done, we’re not talking about 2005 VC. The guy was benched for Matt Barnes in the eastern conference finals. Alston and Battie were included simply to make contracts match. When we’d tried to move him before teams weren’t even offering expiring contracts, they wanted us to take back their bad long-term contracts (i.e Bobby Simmons but worse). VC had virtually no trade value between his injuries, lack of defense, the absurd extension we gave him and declining offensive skills.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
A possible trade:
was Redick and Pietrus straight up for VC. That would’ve gotten us a lot of talent. I totally agree, Vince’s trade value took a big hit that year. With this being said, i would have preferred we pursued more young talent and didn’t take this deal. Obviously, if Courtney Lee had a 20 ppg season, i wouldn’t be saying this….
Durant is the most valuable commodity in NBA now, arguably more than Kobe or Lebron
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
lol yes
Melo? Not for my Favors!
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks
by NetsMets4Life on Nov 2, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Lopez + Favors would get you Durant, seriously.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
I think it would
But if Durant was in Melo’s position but if you mean an outright trade nothing would get Durant.
Do you not believe in the reply button geece.
Use it its right there.
by JJ25 on Nov 2, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is just speculation
could Gerald Wallace get dealt if Bobcats are not close to making playoffs by the trading deadline.
he is owed $31.5 million
$10.5 million in each of the next three years, including this one.
He plays very hard and does get hurt. But he is still only 28 years old.
So if they die early, he could be dumped. Bobcat fans are very fickle and would stay away in droves.
I would love it
He is a great player and (as NI notes) underpaid.
by calling all toasters on Nov 2, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I would pull the trigger
on that. But i don’t wanna trade more than Outlaw and James and some cash/picks
W?
I have this as a W in my forecasting book. I am hoping we have Murph for a few minutes, and that Favors can continue his solid play, as with Brook and Devin and Farmar and THE HUMPH. AND against a lessor defensive team then Miami, I am hoping we get something from our wings too. I have classes Wednesday night, but will DVR and rush home to watch. GO NETS!
Paul from Delray Beach
I got hooked up big time
With free second row seats to this one… I am VERY excited
now is a good time
to start looking at misplaced concerns from preaseason…
1. Favors is so young, so raw that he won’t able to contribute for a long time, maybe until the end of the season.
2. Favors may be good down the road, but DeMarcus Cousins is the real deal.
3. Harris doesn’t like he’s ready, doesn’t look like a leader and he should be fined for taking three point shots.
4. That round the world trip MIGHT help team chemistry but it also exhausted the players needlessly.
5. Murphy’s back injury sounds like it could be a real problem, something that will keep him out for a while.
6. If Farmar is so good, why did the Lakers simply let him go?
7. Offensive rebounding will be a big concern.
8. Avery Johnson and Devin Harris won’t get along.
Outlaw overpaid?
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
Outlaw is the biggest problem I have with the Nets
I will repeat the line “Every time Outlaw moves laterally it looks like he’s going to fall over” I remember one game he was on a fast break and got bailed out by a foul call but he was moving so slowly and looked like he wasn’t going to make it to to the rim.
This isn’t funny, but for some reason I couldn’t help but laugh audibly while reading it.
Promoting a grenade-free America.
Not bench, just buy him out $25million and play James backup minutes
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
lol I wish
But best case scenario I think he can come off the bench like he did for Portland I don’t think he has the starters mindset, allow him to go up against backups.
we are a young team, we need to give backup minutes to promising guys like James
Outlaw is washed up. He’s $7 million dead weight, completely untradable. Just get rid of him. Sooner the better.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
But you have to admit
its only three games and all those comments we made are useless now, but one day they might come back. NetIncome this team is missing a scorer/shooter that can average 18ppg 3rpg 3apg who do you think might be avaiable.
Im sensing sarcasm in that last sentence?
Melo? Not for my Favors!
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks
by NetsMets4Life on Nov 2, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
9. We blew it by trading Jordan Crawford for Damion James
Crawford has played in one game, two minutes.
Well...we'll still need a few years before...
we know how Tibor pans out…lol
"I love what we have here. I love ‘Melo as a player and a person too. But would I change what we have here, if it was me?" "Probably not.'' -Johan Petro, future NBA GM.
this is a HUGE GAME for jersey. were either 3-3 after six if we win, or 2-4. . .we gotta win these games if we wanna stay around 500 all year
Funny people said Favors was like Tyrus Thomas
Even at 19 and still growing Favors has that brute strength that stuff that young Karl Malone and Oakley had.
That shows a Fact
Everyone can tell and say what they feel about one thing. But they are wrong most of the time.
For ex: Oden, Turner.
http://twitter.com/NYPost_Berman
new guy that hates Nets, show him what we mean
John Wall is a stud
16 pts 2 rebs 10 asts 5and 8 stls in 32 mins now, but 5 TOs.
Turn is a bust
0 points on 0/2 shooting and 4 rebounds 2 turnovers
Turner is a bust
I am glad we didn’t get the second pick.
It would be good in either getting Wall or Favors.
If we have gotten Wall, we get a strong guard. But right now, we have a strong forward.
...dude it's been 3 games. you're seriously deciding Turner is a bust already?
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
it's been whole the summer league games... pre-season games...
if he was not a bust, even just in 3 regular games, he would never be that terrible.
Generally, 1 of the Top 3 picks is a bust
I’ll be thankful this Thanksgiving we drafted Favors and not Turner
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
you mean Darko, Morrison, Thabeet, Oden, Williams, etc?
the conventional wisdom before the draft was that the draft was two deep, that after Turner it dropped off dramatically.
Another misconception.
I was never hot on Turner. I will admit leaning towards Cousins over Favors.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
That's not my perception
While “league sources” had it as Wall and Turner, a number of analysts had Favors at #2. Others said Cousins might be a good choice there except for his attitude. Really a 4-man draft.
And, while 3 games is far from enough, I do think Turner will draw the short straw.
by calling all toasters on Nov 2, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It was known
If the NBA still allowed drafting out of high school, Favors would’ve been the #1 pick. However, Wall’s explosion on the court and the media immediately pulled him up, and Turner’s performance (like game winning shot vs Michigan) made him look NBA ready.
Favors having a freshman-like year brought him down.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
+1 yes
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
No Wall is playing at another level right now
Watching it in overtime has 29 and 13 assists right now 8 turnover have just been overlooked because of what I am seeing he definitely will be a superstar has that look and doing the things great players do when they don’t want to loose.
The key is that he went to the wrong team. He went to a team where he wont be able to mature at a normal #2 speed. John Wall has the keys, Turner is a ball in hand 2 guard playing behind Ai, and a great young PG in Holliday.
take a look at the rookies
other than Griffin, Wall, Cousins and Favors, not seeing a lot.
Wesley Johnson is averaging 10 ppg but he isnt even shooting 37 per cent from the floor.
Epke Udoh is out til January.
Greg Monroe has played in one game (before tonight) and scored two points for a team in need of a big man.
Al Farouq Aminu is averaging 2.8 ppg.
Gordon Hayward is averaging 6.3 ppg.
Paul George is averaging 6.7 ppg
Cole Aldrich has scored 5 points in one game.
Xavier Henry is averaging 6.0 ppg
Ed Davis is hurt, hasn’t played.
Patrick Patterson has three DNP-CDs
That’s the lottery. Outside the lottery, it doesnt get much better. Luke Babbitt has scored two points. Avery Bradley has been hurt.
its a bit premature for this discussion, no?
"I love what we have here. I love ‘Melo as a player and a person too. But would I change what we have here, if it was me?" "Probably not.'' -Johan Petro, future NBA GM.
No, Its pretty much sink or swim.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
Turner is struggling with the speed of the game right now
He’s not able to dictate the tempo like he did in College.
He's not going to be better than Favors or Wall
Those guys can have bad games and let their athleticism take over play off that, turner can’t.
Wow
Wall is playing possessed right now, ran down and blocked a Iggy dunk attempt they called a foul but has 29 points and 13 assists in overtime. Has the most assists ever by anybody staring their career.
That was a 1 point game
Melo? Not for my Favors!
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks
by NetsMets4Life on Nov 2, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
sixers as a team would have been better off with Cousins
Turner doesn’t look good with the Sixers they just don’t fit.
well sure
Their front line is terrible and Iggy is in front of Turner. BPA, my sweet aunt.
by calling all toasters on Nov 2, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't
Tyreke Evans and Brandon Jennings do well as guards last year, and Derrick Rose and Westbrook the year before? Who was the last PF to average 10pt/10rb? Kevin Love?
"I love what we have here. I love ‘Melo as a player and a person too. But would I change what we have here, if it was me?" "Probably not.'' -Johan Petro, future NBA GM.
Jennings had some big games
but he was pretty uneven the whole year. Westbrook was fairly uneven as well I believe he didn’t really burst on until the second half of last year/the play-offs. He’s still growing into his body.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
It seems we lost to the Heat
but managed to still look respectable. Minny lost to them by 32. We lost by 23.
Melo? Not for my Favors!
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks
Just sayin.
For the those who doubt us, and still think we will be one of the league’s worst. Truth be told, Minny was much worse than us last year. We lost to the “superteam” by considerably less then them.
Melo? Not for my Favors!
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks
by NetsMets4Life on Nov 2, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Minny lost it in the 3rd. Nets lost it in 1st minute.
I watched the Minny game tonight.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
3rd quarter, that is
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
Well I guess that proves how bad Minny is.
Melo? Not for my Favors!
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks
by NetsMets4Life on Nov 2, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Loss is a loss BUT
Magic lost by 26. Do you think we are better than them?
Nope.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Calm down guys
All I said was we managed to look respectable as compared to the other teams. I didn’t say that we are better than those teams (except for the T-wolves.)
Melo? Not for my Favors!
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks
by NetsMets4Life on Nov 2, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Respectable is a 8 point loss
Getting blown out by 20 isn’t respectable.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
respectable
as compared to others
Melo? Not for my Favors!
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks
by NetsMets4Life on Nov 2, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
that's like
deciding which squashed bug is the least dead.
by calling all toasters on Nov 2, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice Morrow piece
In the Charlotte Observer
http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/11/02/776965/morrow-burrows-in-for-3-pointers.html
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Lets see the Heat plays us with Murphy back
And Outlaw paying less minutes, we probably will still loose but Murphy brings consistency and another scoring threat when Brook comes out.
This could be payback…Bobcats getting there first win of the season against us….when they were our first W last season.
Or…we could win and be 3-1!!!!! Tougher games follow, this is a must win.
"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
So far the other teams are doing bad that were supposed to be in playoffs
Knicks, Bucks, Bobcats, Philly all doing pretty bad LETS DO THIS PLAYOFFS
duhmecca!
You’re safe! Glad to see you! We heard some things…
by JohnFromLongIsland on Nov 3, 2010 7:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Keep Favors!
Favors Stat line tomorrow. 11-12-2
I will be there in full force. Anyone want to start a keep favors chant? My section is below. I will be chanting.
“Don’t Trade Favors!!!”
Whose with me?
Do me a FAVORS...no Melo
Section 3f Row AA.
You want to have an impact?
How about putting up a big “R” every time he gets a rebound, like the “K” corner? Make him seem like a rebounding phenom.
by calling all toasters on Nov 2, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a bad idea...
Do me a FAVORS...no Melo
Section 3f Row AA.
by Mike Viola on Nov 2, 2010 11:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
With him and Murphy out there
Even T-will were going to be a rebounding machine, imagine if lopez gets angry for a 7 min stretch watch out lol.
Lol I just noticed
Blake Griffin- (0-4)
John Wall- (1-2)
Evan Turner- (0-4)
Wesley Johnson- (1-2)
Greg Monroe- (0-4)
Only Cousins and Favors team doing well
~Hard Work
Wait till next week
Tonight we’ll be 3 – 1 if we can keep up our pummeling of the Bobcats, but by next week we’ll be 3 – 3 with back to backs against Cleveland followed by a stretch where we play Magic, Jazz, Nuggets, and Boston on the road.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
thats tough…VERY TOUGH
"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
Don't be scared Andy...Repeat after me...
“The harder they come the harder they’ll fall, one and all”
"Reality is wrong. Dreams are for real"
Tupac Shakur
well maybe he is the next rajon rondo
I still think its harder to find a starting 4 than a scoring PG.
"I love what we have here. I love ‘Melo as a player and a person too. But would I change what we have here, if it was me?" "Probably not.'' -Johan Petro, future NBA GM.
Although we missed John Wall, but at least we have Devin.
By the way, comparing Wall with Rose. I Think Wall is superior than Rose. Rose is a career 6 assists player.
Wall is a better passer and a scorer.
Rose is Francis 2.0.
Tickets for Wednesday Night!!!
I cannot make tonight’s game. If you want to get my Tickets they are on the Nets Ticket Exchange. Section 107 Row 3 Seats 1/2. Good seats selling really cheap.
Reality Check!
We can always count on NetIncome for a reality check. AND Jarkid: You are a young guy, and need your sleep, get some? Boy, is John Wall the real deal…Not ready to write off Turner, let’s see where he is at the all star break, same with declaring Favors the next Karl Malone, in fact, because Favors is so young, I wouldn’t start to draw any conclusions till at least the end of this season, but I like what I see so far. Biggest misconception in a long time? Celtics can’t win with Rondo at the point….I see Miami and Celtics in the conference finals, and who knows what will happen? But Wednesday night, (tonight) we must get the W to stay on track. GO NETS!
Paul from Delray Beach
T-Will take note...
“We’re new,” Johnson said. “That’s not an excuse, that’s just a fact. We’re new and we’re young and we’re not in the right places all the time. We’re a team that loves highlights. They love highlight passes. They don’t like screen passes, if it was a football game. They like the ones that are 40-yard passes across the middle to the other team. So we’re working on that.”
You've gone a million miles... How far'd you get
To that place where you can't remember... And you can't forget
How about thanking Coach Brown and MJ
for the invaluable gift they gave us in Brook. Let somebody approach Coach Brown and thank him for passing Brook in the draft. What a break we got……
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