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41-41. Book it! Why we should look past Melo and the Knicks!



I don't think a day has gone by since Melo refused to sign his extension, that we haven't mentioned Carmelo Anthony on NetsDaily.  We are all guilty of it: this website, the media, and Netsfans including myself (both pro and anti melo).  With good reason though.  We lost out in the Lebron sweepstakes and we hunger for a winner after last years debacle of a season.

We also talk a lot about the NY Knicks.  Of course we would.  The Knicks have been a TERRIBLE team for YEARS but they are still better respected than our Nets.  We have an impenidng move to Brooklyn coming up and I was moved to write this article because in both respects (Melo and the Knicks), we might be missing the big picture.

In my analysis of the Nets and what we should aim for, I never lower my goals to "be  at least better than the Knicks".  The Knicks are a desperate team that overpayed for the basketball version of Pedro Martinez,: one and a half years of performance with a high risk of an injured riddled superstar with an albatrosscontract for the rest of it's lifetime. 

I don't want to compare our Nets to this team.  They have a coach that doesn't preach defense, a starting C that is a project/unknown and an PG that makes me thrilled to have Devin.  They have some serviceable wings and a weak bench, but no picks and an uncertain direction.   LET'S AIM HIGHER AND IGNORE THE TROLLING KNICKS FANS!

 

There is a three-fold purpose:

1) To elicit why we should have higher aspirations than comparissons to the Knicks and essentially ignore them as we continue our march towards a bright future

2) To help those that are pro Melo understand why they may be missing the big picture

3) To acknowledge that we are indeed playoff sleepers because sometimes, the experts' knowledge  goes only as far as looking at last year's record of 12-70

 

Let me analyze  2 rosters that we can aspire to emulate for this season:  The Bucks and Hawks.  We are short of the top 4 teams in the east (assuming a healthy Boozer for Chi) but both the Hawks and Bucks have been listed as potential 5th and 6th seeds coming out of the east.  In addition, we will analyze the rosters of our 09-10 Nets and our 10-11 team.

Milwaukee Bucks
POS STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH 5TH
Point Guard Brandon Jennings Keyon Dooling Earl Boykins
Shooting Guard John Salmons Chris Douglas-Roberts Michael Redd
Small Forward Carlos Delfino Corey Maggette Darington Hobson
Power Forward Drew Gooden Luc Richard Mbah a Moute Ersan Ilyasova Jon Brockman Larry Sanders
Center Andrew Bogut

 

 

Atlanta Hawks
POS STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH 5TH
Point Guard Mike Bibby Jeff Teague
Shooting Guard Joe Johnson Jamal Crawford Jordan Crawford Pape Sy
Small Forward Marvin Williams Maurice Evans
Power Forward Josh Smith Josh Powell
Center Al Horford Zaza Pachulia Jason Collins Etan Thomas

 

As for our beloved Nets, here is a breakdown of the difference in our roster from this year to last:

Subtraction                            Addition

Yi                                              Murphy

Boone                                       Favors

C. Lee                                       Morrow

Hayes                                       Outlaw

Dooling                                     Farmar

CDR                                          D. James

Hassel                                     J. Smith

Battie                                        Petro

Quinn                                        Uzoh

Simmons                                 Graham

 

Look at those differences.  I think it is safe to say we have improved with each addition significantly(or at least a wash)  There might be some C. Lee supporters or CDR and Dooling supporters but as a whole, I feel this group is so much better.  Half of these guys are no longer in the league or waving a towel on the end of the bench!

When I factor in improved play from Brook, Devin and Twill(with better supporting cast, their overall play will be better) I see the roster  improvements accounting for 14-15 more wins(give or take).  Where are the other 14+ wins you might ask?  Well I haven't even gotten to the most important addition (followed by a more subtle addition):

Subtraction                                    Addition

Frank/Vandeweghe                     *Avery Johnson*

Izod/Continental                           The Rock/Prudential Center

 

I have Avery pegged for an additional 8 to 9 wins(partially not because AJ is that good but  because Vandeweghe was HORRIBLE).  The Rock and our re-energized fan base is another +4-5, which takes me to 29+ more wins.  Avery has already shown that he will pull Outlaw when he's not doing well, big contract notwithstanding.  If the opposing coach leaves a poor free throw shooter in, he will apply Hack-a-Wallace or Shaq?  If a rookie is hustling and producing, Avery will play that rookie(Favors) instead of just having him ride the pine just because he's a rookie.  As fot the Prudential, I'm so much happier there than in the Izod/cont. which was truly a dump and continued crowd support will definitely help these guys.

 

Now, getting back to the Bucks and Hawks roster's.  I personally think that we are very comparable to the Bucks roster.  Brook-Harris vrs Bogut-Jennings is a wash (personally, edge Nets).  Both teams have tough minded, no-nonsense former pg's for coaches and then some good role players.

As for the Hawks, they have a good pg in Bibby and some exciting young playes in Smith, Horford and Williams.  (Much like our core of Lopez, Harris, Twill and Favors)  Where they truly seperate themselves from the Nets is at SG where they have their best player and All-Star, Joe Johnson.  This led me to thinking:  Do we want to be the Hawks?

Having Melo would be our version of having JJ (melo is better, but...).

 

Here are some stats to digest:

Joe Johnson (ATL only)

 

G GS MIN FG     FG% 3P 3P% FT FT% STL BLK TO PF OFF DEF TOT AST PTS

05-06 ATL 82 82 40.7 7.7-17.0 .453 1.6-4.4 .356 3.2-4.0 .791 1.30 0.40 3.3 2.3 1.2 2.9 4.1 6.5 20.2
06-07 ATL 57 57 41.4 9.4-20.0 .471 2.1-5.5 .381 4.1-5.5 .748 1.10 0.20 3.1 2.0 0.9 3.3 4.2 4.4 25.0
07-08 ATL 82 82 40.8 7.9-18.3 .432 2.1-5.4 .381 3.9-4.6 .834 1.00 0.20 2.7 2.0 1.0 3.5 4.5 5.8 21.7
08-09 ATL 79 79 39.5 7.8-18.0 .437 1.9-5.2 .360 3.8-4.6 .826 1.10 0.20 2.5 2.2 0.8 3.6 4.4 5.8 21.4
09-10 ATL 76 76 38.0 8.4-18.2 .458 1.7-4.6 .369 2.9-3.5 .818 1.10 0.10 1.9 1.9 1.0 3.7 4.7 4.9 21.3
10-11 ATL 3 3 35.3 7.3-16.3 .449 1.3-4.3 .308 7.0-9.0 .778 1.00 0.00 4.0 1.7 0.7 3.3 4.0 4.0 23.0

veresus Melo

03-04 DEN 82 82 36.5 7.6-17.9 .426 0.8-2.6 .322 5.0-6.4 .777 1.20 0.50 3.0 2.7 2.2 3.8 6.0 2.8 21.0
04-05 DEN 75 75 34.8 7.1-16.4 .431 0.6-2.1 .266 6.1-7.6 .796 0.90 0.40 3.0 3.1 1.9 3.8 5.7 2.6 20.8
05-06 DEN 80 80 36.8 9.4-19.6 .481 0.5-1.9 .243 7.2-8.9 .808 1.10 0.50 2.7 2.9 1.5 3.4 4.9 2.7 26.5
06-07 DEN 65 65 38.2 10.6-22.4 .476 0.6-2.3 .268 7.1-8.7 .808 1.20 0.40 3.6 3.1 2.2 3.8 6.0 3.8 28.9
07-08 DEN 77 77 36.4 9.5-19.2 .492 0.8-2.1 .354 6.0-7.7 .786 1.30 0.50 3.3 3.3 2.3 5.1 7.4 3.4 25.7
08-09 DEN 66 66 34.5 8.1-18.3 .443 1.0-2.6 .371 5.6-7.1 .793 1.10 0.40 3.0 3.0 1.6 5.2 6.8 3.4 22.8
09-10 DEN 69 69 38.2 10.0-21.8 .458 0.9-2.7 .316 7.4-8.9 .830 1.30 0.40 3.0 3.3 2.2 4.4 6.6 3.2 28.2

 While Melo is the better scorer, they shoot similar percentages and Melo takes a lot more shots.  JJ is a better 3 point shooter.  Both offer nothing spectacular defensively and JJ is a more willing distributor.  I'm not saying JJ is better but Melo doesn't do enough other things besides score to make him that much better thaan JJ.

So I once again ask:  Do we want to be the Hawks?

A team relegated to the 5th seed.  That doesn't even factor in the numerous assets we'd have to trade to get Melo so we might not even be the Hawks!

In summary:

Let's not worry about the Knicks.  They are a team that due to insufficient draft assets, poor drafting (pass on Jennings and Brook) and hitching their wagon to an injury waiting-to-happen Amar'e, that we should NOT WORRY OURSELVES ABOUT.  When I actually see Melo pass up on as much as 10-15 million to go to the Knicks next year, I will believe it.

Second, don't touch Melo!...  His addition to our team at the cost of valuable assets (do we really want to tradfe Favors?) makes us no better than the Hawks.  To those that argue that we need him to lure CP3, I think the saying a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush comes to mind.  Luring CP3 with the new CBA  looming and an assets supply that will have been abused by the initial trade with denver is very risky!  Let Melo smell the coffee, watch the Knicks crap all over themselves this year and join us as a free agent next year for nothing!

Third, who gives a crap about the Sheridan's of the world and the plethora of other beat writers on the Knicks payroll.  I'm not worried.   If we stay healthy, we have a promising season ahead of us as well as a bright future.

 

Let's keep developing our talent, maintaining our assets and cap flexibility until the right deal comes along!  Let's all see how happy we will be when we keep our picks and still finish 41-41 with a 7th seed or higher wrapped up!

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