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Celtics Hand Nets First Preseason Loss Despite Lopez's 23

The Nets' winning streak came to an end with a 96-92 loss to the Celtics at the Prudential Center Thursday night. Behind 13 points from Brook Lopez, the Nets led 28-19 after the first quarter, but the Celtics' bench outscored them 37-26 in the second and Boston took control with a 9-2 run to start the third.

The Nets came back and tied the game on a Jordan Farmar three with a minute to go in the fourth, but Marquis Daniels answered with a three for the Celtics. The Nets had a chance to tie in the final seconds, but Anthony Morrow stepped out of bounds before he could get a shot off. None of the Celtic starters and only two of the Net starters  were on the floor at the end of the game.

In spite of getting into a fender-bender near the Lincoln Tunnel before the game, Lopez led all scorers with 23 points, getting to the line 15 times. Terrence Williams added 17 points and five assists off the bench. But Devin Harris did not do much in his 17 minutes, while Morrow and Travis Outlaw combined to shoot just 6-for-19 from the field. With a Nuggets scout in attendance, Derrick Favors made just one of his six shots and finished with three points, four rebounds and a block before fouling out in 24 minutes. Adrian Wojnarowski tweets despite the presence of Mike Bratz, "no new movement on a possible deal for Carmelo Anthony." After making 15 of their 28 threes in their first two preseason games, the Nets hit went just 5-for-18 from beyond the arc and shot just 40 percent from the field overall.

In post-game interviews, Avery Johnson, Doc Rivers and Shaq all had positive things to say about Lopez, with O'Neal telling writers,  "He is like Tim Duncan. Classy guy. You'll never hear a bad word about him. Great player."

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we played a great game though

i liked how we competed against the eastern conference champs

by Drew10135 on Oct 7, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

YES Network

Who cares about the Yankee post game! I cant believe they broke away!

by Net At All on Oct 7, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Crap a nuggets scout

by mlee88 on Oct 7, 2010 9:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Great game

but I have to say that ummmmm Favors looks like ummmmmmmmmmmmmm never mind.

TERRENCE WILLIAMS FOR SIXTH MAN OF THE YEAR AND MIP!!!! book it

by killa kadafi191 on Oct 7, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Favors

Trade will never happen if they watched the game!

by Net At All on Oct 7, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

dont trade favors!
good thing the nuggets scout came today and saw him play horribly
but its also a bad thing since it shows that the nuggets still want to trade melo for favors + other people

by kingching on Oct 7, 2010 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

why not?

Favors is a bum! I’ll take Melo all day, if it means giving up Favors…

by bbatts30 on Oct 8, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think in the same way!

before i didn’t want the melo trade but after this games i think that it would be the best for us!

FARMAR
T-WILL/ D. JAMES
MELO/ OUTLAW
HUMP, TROY
LOPEZ /PETRO

WE MAKE THE PLAYOFFS EASLY!

by Sérgio Silva on Oct 8, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or maybe not...

Farmar is solid but a clear drop off from Devin. He will play 20-25 minutes for us this year and everyone will love him (backup QB syndrome). If he started and played 35+ minutes we would all turn on him.

Lopez will never see the ball with Melo, Hump and TWILL competing to jack the most shots in the shortest time in the shot clock. And since none of them are high percentage shooters don’t look for us to lead the league in scoring.

Speaking of scoring it is hard to imagine a more scary defensive team. Farmar is the only above average defender in the group. And while TWILL could be a very good defender, Melo, Hump and Lopez will get overrun by even average front courts.

And don’t even ask me about rebounding. All those missed shots are going to the other team.

Should be fun to watch…..all those fast breaks by the other team….

by Jay-dub on Oct 8, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about Murphy's rebounding?

not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.

by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 8, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

u place hump over murphy? u cant be serious man

by netsforever91 on Oct 8, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Game tho...

Joe Smith looked ok. Grahm looked pretty strong. I felt our combos were odd at times but its pre-season. Without Devin and T-Wil in the game the offense looked stiff. Favors looked a lttle out of sorts but his defensive positioning was ok for the most part. He missed a few chippies around the rim. Still finding himself patience…. As i go watch what big cuz does,,,

The JETS/NETS are coming!

by MrBDown on Oct 7, 2010 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

That should scare of the Nuggets.. get away already… You had your chance…

Why so serious?

by TinySarabia on Oct 7, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah I wonder how this affects a possible Melo trade

Dear Sucker I Mean Met Fan
Thank you for your support if you thought this season was tough to swallow wait til next year. Thanks, The Pons.
-TheKid08

by NetsMets4Life on Oct 7, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

They will want T-Will now...

With favors Murphy and 10 picks…lol

The JETS/NETS are coming!

by MrBDown on Oct 7, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol it doesn't

Favors having a tough night against KG won’t affect his trade value.

It’s his 3rd NBA game.

Section 129 2010-2011 @ the ROCK

by NetsKiNG on Oct 7, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concour....

He is fluid….Just needs to learn the game.

The JETS/NETS are coming!

by MrBDown on Oct 7, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's raw

it’s not a surprise if he struggles.

That one move he did with the quick jab and missed dunk was impressive though.

Section 129 2010-2011 @ the ROCK

by NetsKiNG on Oct 7, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

But remember Ujiri is a moron

Dear Sucker I Mean Met Fan
Thank you for your support if you thought this season was tough to swallow wait til next year. Thanks, The Pons.
-TheKid08

by NetsMets4Life on Oct 7, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

it doesnt affect it too much

even if the Nets and Nuggets agreed to a trade, Anthony has to want to sign an extension with us, and he doesn’t seem very interested (thank GOD).

by Andres B on Oct 8, 2010 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still quick and got by people

Fed Brook the ball… What more do you want. Gave the shooters a chance to…. SHOOT. We won’t look very good when we aren’t making shots. Expected more from Outlaw. We need hom to be aggressive if he is starting. If not start T-Will.

The JETS/NETS are coming!

by MrBDown on Oct 7, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhh, he played a few minutes and made smart plays.

by Tim823 on Oct 7, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

boston tv announcers

Just wanted to say that the boston tv announcers are the dumbest people ive ever heard call a game. I am not in the area so I watched on NBA tv and after the 1st 5 minutes during which the YES broadcast was shown, they switched to the Celtics broadcast and it was painful to watch. Most of the dumb things they said I just ignored but the one thing that really annoyed me was that they continuously said that basically Lopez is worthless on defense, saying that he never even bothers attempting to block shots. He averages 1.8 blocks a game for his career so thats a little ridiculous. But I guess I shouldnt expect anything less from BOSTON commentators. Oh and 1 more thing, people need to stop giving up on Favors after THREE preseason games. Its a little absurd.

by bdiggle25 on Oct 7, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Nobody is giving up on him

But some people started screaming “untouchable” after his performance against Maccabi.

Section 129 2010-2011 @ the ROCK

by NetsKiNG on Oct 7, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you hear when the boston commentators said twill was a great shooter LMAO

by Keenan on Oct 7, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I live in Boston… its horrible. They dont know 85% of the players names.

by Tim823 on Oct 7, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree

i never heard so many biased individuals call a game in my life!!!!!!!!!!!

by bbatts30 on Oct 8, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now do you guys see why I hated the Favors pick?

Dude has BUST written all over him and you all know it, even if you don’t want to admit it.

by Dobermite on Oct 7, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

If Rod Thorn was leaving he never should have been allowed to make that pick

I can’t believe we let him make that pick when he/we knew he was leaving.

UNBELIEVABLE

by Dobermite on Oct 7, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted Wes Johnson or Cousins

… and I said I liked both of them better than Turner too!

But the one guy I wanted no part of was Favors, I knew that pick had disaster written all over it.

by Dobermite on Oct 7, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

So how is Wes doing?

not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.

by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 8, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

No he doesn't

He has being young and needing to slow down written all over him

by Atronic on Oct 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah we can give him a chance

WE HAVE NO CHOICE

I’m Just saying I don’t see it happening.

I hope I’m wrong, but its scary how bad he looks.

by Dobermite on Oct 7, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude also has stud written all over him

he is 19 remember, and we already have an offensive center, and Johnson is a regular rotation player at best

by Benl1 on Oct 8, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Preseason Game #3 Report Card

Damion James: B-
    Limited action, hit a couple free throws, took a few wild shots that could have been avoided. Whatever.
*Ben Uzoh
: Incomplete
    He played 18 seconds.
*Kris Humphries
: B
    Played excellent on defense in the limited time he saw. Hit a couple free throws, +7 efficiency. Nice work, even though he was sitting as Avery looked at rotations involving Favors and Joe Smith.
*Stephen Graham
: C-
    Pretty much invisible tonight. Had a blocked shot and looked alright on defense. Committed more fouls than shots attempted. Not much playing time, but didn’t show much tonight.
*Joe Smith
: B-
    I’m not totally upset with Joe Smith. 3-5 from the field and 4-6 from the line for 10 points. Grabbed a few boards. Looked pretty bad on defense, though. Can’t expect too much more from a senior citizen.
*Johan Petro
: C-
    Didn’t see anything from this guy tonight, offensively or defensively. Yeah, he grabbed 5 boards, but he was dominated by Glen Davis. Committed way too many fouls, and at one point committed 2 in 10 seconds. Dissapointing tonight.
*Devin Harris
: C+
    Didn’t drive to the rim as much as he could have, maybe because of his injury. I don’t have much to say, if he doesn’t drive to the basket constantly, he isn’t a good point guard. Managed 8 points and 4 dimes, but committed some turnovers and looked average on defense. Let’s see how he does on Saturday.
*Derrick Favors
: D
    The guy has a quick first step, but he just didn’t look like an NBA player today. Almost had a ferocious dunk that would have been #1 on Top Plays, but missed it. Fouled out again. Defense sub par (although he did have one nice block that was probably a goaltend). All in all, he was discombobulated and looked lost on the court. It will come with time, I hope.
*Brook Lopez
: A
    Glad to see Lopez is back to all-star form. Drove to the hoop and got fouled a ton (13-15 FT), scored 23 points, no fouls and only one turnover. Didn’t do a great job on Davis, but got Shaq in major foul trouble. He didn’t get as much help defense as he chould have. Overall, great job by Lopez tonight.
*Jordan Farmar
: B
    Missed a bunch of shots and committed some silly turnovers, but he had a lot of nice, exciting passes and hit a clutch three down the stretch. I think he looked alright on D. Decent job tonight by Farmar.
*Travis Outlaw
: C-
     His stats look alright. He hit a few tough jumpers and nailed a couple threes. But the 6 jumpers he missed were very ill-advised shots, dribbling halfway turned towards the basket and heaving up a jumper. His defense was absolutely atrocious on Pierce. Sub-par job by Outlaw tonight.
*Anthony Morrow
: D
    Committed way too many turnovers (including one that sealed the Boston victory). Couldn’t hit any shots. His defense was atrocious on Robinson, Daniels and West. I hope he finds a rhythm before the season starts.
*Terrence Williams
: B+
    *He did a solid job tonight. Took a few wild shots and missed a few easy ones. Screwed up a few fast breaks. 5 turnovers is too many. His defense was alright, and he did score 17 and dish out 5 assists. Solid job by Mr. T tonight.

Team Grade: B-

Strengths:
    Inside offense
    Ability to get to the foul line

Weaknesses:
    Defense (especially perimeter)
    Poor three-point shooting
    Turnovers
    Shooting drought towards the end of the game when stops were being made.

by giacomo on Oct 7, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks giacomo

too bad nets couldn’t make FT’s when they got there….also
another strength was showing heart against a great team

by netsball on Oct 7, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shooting drought towards the end of the game when stops were being made.

This is why we need a go-to guy despite some people here saying that’s overrated.

by imdkidd on Oct 7, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favors

Honestly I hate that we drafted Favors… I think Wes Johnson would have been an awesome pick, hell or even Cousins…. What is stopping Favors from being the next Sean Williams? He’s an athletic big man with an extremely raw game.

by glomb23 on Oct 7, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

Not really helping fans build confidence in him looking as lost as he has been the lost 2 games. We definitely need to be patient but unless we want to be bottom feeders this season … he better grow up fast.

by imdkidd on Oct 7, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I spent months in this forum and others begging the Nets to take Wes Johnson

Or if they had to take a BIG, then it has to be Cousins

That was my plea for months, please take Wes Johnson and if you can’t, then at least take Cousins who is NBA ready right now and has the ability to be an elite big man, but please make it one or the other and avoid Favors.

I begged for months.

by Dobermite on Oct 7, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our STARTING PF Didn't play at all tonight...

Derrick Favors isn’t the starter. And he will learn. Tonight asking Favors to DESTROY KG, Shaq (hall of famers) and Big baby (excellent big man who played in 2 Nba Finals) Is asking ALOT of a 19 year old Rookie. And trust Favors isn’t the only one tryng to find himself. Outlaw (35 million over 5 years 7 yrs experience) Looked real lost thats a bigger concern for me.

The JETS/NETS are coming!

by MrBDown on Oct 7, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will you be saying that when...

Wes Johnson is riding the pine behind Webster or when Cousins gets arrested or starts being the Village idiot everyone thinks he is??? How many games before Bg Cuz slaps or chokes Tyreke? Same dude who likes to basket hang. Get carried away if you want to…lol. After a 12 win Season we have nothing but time.

The JETS/NETS are coming!

by MrBDown on Oct 7, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favors is 6'10 246+ pounds already

You can expect him to grow a lot bigger soon.. Favors is 19, basically one year out of college. Fans need to chilax sometimes. Just because some teenager doesn’t do well against 2 future HOF big men doesn’t mean he will become the next Mile Ilic.. At worst he is a huge body, providing rebounding with defense. But I think he will be a lot more than that in the future..

NBA ready does not mean anything for us right now. We are not championship contenders, Cousins would have been great right now, but what does that get us? A first round exit? In 5 years, Favors and Lopez will be the best frontcourt in the NBA and Prokhy’s prediction can come true. The guys can grow together now. After the Heat, Celtics, Lakers, Spurs, and all those old times are gone, the Nets will have players in their prime (Favors only 24) ready to compete with the next generation of NBA teams.

~AC24

by AC24 on Oct 7, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

our perimeter D still sucks

those threes we gave up on.. Nate, West, those threes really hurt.

and of course the missed free throws.

by Fr@nkl1n on Oct 7, 2010 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I said it before the draft and I'll say it again

Drafting Daerrick Favors with the #3 Overall Pick would be (and was) a colossal mistake.

by Dobermite on Oct 7, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow you like a genius 3 pre-season games in...lol

do you read tarrot cards as well???

The JETS/NETS are coming!

by MrBDown on Oct 7, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't take a genius to see this kid was grossly overrated

He might become a decent player down the road, but I see no indication he will ever be a TOP 3 caliber player, in other words an elite big man.

I haven’t see one thing to indicate that is possible.

I WISH I DID, I’m a Nets fan, but I haven’t see one thing to indicate he can be special.

by Dobermite on Oct 7, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think losing out on John Wall

was the bigger problem. He’s doing wonders for Yi’s stats.

by imdkidd on Oct 7, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

And again, and again...?

not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.

by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 8, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

To All the Favors Haters After this Game:

seriously? You’re going to start talking about a 19 year old kid fresh out of college who has played exactly two nba preseason games so far in his career? IMO, the only player drafted who is NBA ready is Wall. Favors will show his brilliance here and there, but its going to take time before he becomes the stud we know he can be. For now, he needs to get used to the NBA. In other words, he needs to get used to getting a foul called on him every 2.5 seconds.

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle

by Tim G on Oct 7, 2010 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Now that's taking it a bit too far

Hey, he really hasn’t looked good in two preseason games, but you’re judging a bit much. I’m disappointed but it too soon to label him overrated.

by imdkidd on Oct 7, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMD, he wasn't even a dominant player in college!

That’s what I was trying to tell people before the draft, but no-one would listen.

Why would you draft a player in the TOP 3 who wasn’t even a dominator in college?

To me that is the definition of “overrated”

by Dobermite on Oct 7, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

In college

He was surrounded by a bad team that can’t get him the ball.

by imdkidd on Oct 7, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that was the excuse

And I warned everyone … DON’T BUY IT

by Dobermite on Oct 7, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its a fact

Everyone also labeled him a project … so this isn’t completely unexpected. If he plays like this by midseason, you can say I told you so all you want. I would too.

by imdkidd on Oct 7, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favor will be alright

 Being a rookie I think he did well, hadsome nice defense against Garnett and Davies too. Yes he comitted fouls but he stayed long enough there to play 24 minutes. He commited fouls defending some good veterans NBA player. He just needed experience. Even Brooks commits a lot of fouls before he got it. Some fans have to be more realistic here than wishing a lot of nonesense that doesn’t make the team better .A lot thinks if a players shoots well he is the right player.

by JuliusIrving on Oct 7, 2010 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm

Well,not to impressive…..I was at the game and im not sure how i feel about celtics bench winning the game…then again we had our bench out there a good portion…Still
its too early to get negative……The dynamic of the game should change once the season starts and we will get a good look at what were working with…Favors played good defense even though he got fouled out…..Wish we could have seen a bit more of Damion out there….Harris???……good job Brook !…..solid performance by outlaw and morrow,not great but solid(note limited minutes by outlaw)….. T-Will ,basically kept us in the game ……..all in all it was a C+ performance with lots of room for improvment……****key note…aside from a not so great performance from our starters i left the game feeling very good about our bench.

by Disconnected on Oct 7, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

A good read on things

The team is seriously going to need Murphy, who will immediately become the second best player on the team once he rejoins the line up.

by mytoemytoe on Oct 7, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

morrow needs to step it up and knock down his threes or hes just not doin anything out there

by njnets1027 on Oct 7, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

i was at the game.. it didn’t seem like anyone really set him up that well. he always had marquis daniels in his face. as good a shooter as he is, when someone’s up in your grill, hard to make shots

Section 111 @ Prudential

by swampass on Oct 7, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

With a Nuggets scout in attendance...

Favors really, REALLY doesn’t want to be traded :)))

by Belarus4life on Oct 7, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

The scout would definitely want TWill, but Favors did just what the people who said he was RAW but with potential would expect.

Had Favors finished on 3 or 4 more shots and made his FTs, he would have had about 14 pts against Boston, and Nets would have won.

And any future scouts would probably want DJames, once he gets more PT.

by jerry25 on Oct 7, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWill is not a distributor

his shot selection is flawed…his passing was not special.

by Net Income on Oct 7, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I was disappointed to see TWill bring the ball up, take it himself, miss, resulting in a transition 3 for Robinson, then he brings it up again, keeps it again, misses again. I am afraid I don’t agree with many who post here, I dont like his game at this point. Also, I was impressed with Favors. He is really going to be able to play above the rim, he just isn’t finishing at this point. If he is still struggling to finish in March I will be concerned but the criticism stated here is unwarranted.

by ispartan on Oct 8, 2010 12:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed

+ anyone find it weird to see Smith in #6, his frame almost reminded me of KMart.

by gsloots on Oct 8, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would say this about the draft.

If it was going to be done over, and Proky could have his way, Proky would prefer Cousins to Favors, for the simple reason that he wants to win during the next 5 years. Clearly Cousins is more NBA ready and would have been a better draw for other superstars – maybe even LeBron, and certainly Melo. Maybe Melo for Cousins, almost straight up.

by jerry25 on Oct 7, 2010 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Jerry, I know you didn't want Favors either

I remember you’re one of the few who knew that was a dumb pick.

by Dobermite on Oct 7, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just unconvinced that Favors had demonstrated he had the quickness to become a Star.

I’m still waiting, but I don’t think he is a Bust.

However, Cousins IS special, but not sure about his longevity or whether he will lose his elevation in a few years.

I didn’t like the talk that he couldn’t play some PF and work with Brook.
The only negative on Cousins is his elevation, especially when tired.

by jerry25 on Oct 7, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good God

now we’re into Russian mind-reading.

by Net Income on Oct 7, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Proky has proven by his desire to get Melo at any cost, that he wants a STAR and he wants to win now.

That is my basis for saying he would want Cousins over Favors, because it would represent winning now over 7-10 years from now.

by jerry25 on Oct 7, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

We better get this Melo deal done before Favors gets any more run against NBA players.

by Tim823 on Oct 7, 2010 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

If its for the right guy.

by Tim823 on Oct 7, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love it

“Don’t trade Favors, trade Brook!”

?? what??

now

“Trade Favors, he’s a bust!!!!” LOL

Had he laid that dunk into Big Baby’s jaw, the mood would have changed. The kid is going to be fine, he has to learn.

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right?!

People need to relax on the kid, and start enjoying our team- as it is. Its going to be a fun season! We’ll all know soon enough if Favors is making gains. Long ball people, gotta play it.

by NJNM on Oct 8, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Talk about a gamble. We dont even know for “3 years.”

by Tim823 on Oct 7, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Querstion

I spent months in this forum and others wondering the same thing and never heard an answer I found satisfactory.

I also wondered why we were drafting a player in the TOP 3 who wasn’t anything special in college, was not a dominant big man in college, yet we expect him to become a dominant NBA BIG????

by Dobermite on Oct 7, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow.. seriously. how many times on a single thread must you repeat yourself. we get the idea. you don’t like favors (for the 20th time!)

Section 111 @ Prudential

by swampass on Oct 7, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops, i was wrong. only the 12th time.

Section 111 @ Prudential

by swampass on Oct 7, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favors is a bust!!!

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now you have ME defending Favors.

Favors did just what people should have expected, after all the RAW talk.

He probably lived up to Denver’s expectations.

I thought he tried harder than I expected. He made moves to the basket against NBA players, which is more than he did in college.

by jerry25 on Oct 7, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw some good things....

…and some bad things. As expected for a prospect like this. Some of the talk in this thread is crazy

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

and yet

NBA GMs think of all the rookies this year, he is their fourth choice to be the best NBA player in five years.

Of course, their opinion must be dismissed.

by Net Income on Oct 7, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

his career is over

in three games

cut him!!!!

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's going to be awful!

Can’t you tell?!?! Its already the third preseason game! And, AND he’s almost 20 years old! And…AND he should be NBA ready by now!

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle

by Tim G on Oct 7, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

the nerve of him

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

cue the bus driver Mr. DB

Favors is about to get thrown under it!

by aunt-B on Oct 8, 2010 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

The GMs also predicted

Jonny Flynn was 2nd place in their predictions for Rookie of the Year in 09-10.

Nobody even voted for Derrick Rose to win rookie of the year in 08-09, Beasley got 48%, Oden got 30%, Mayo got 11%, and the others were Love, Randolph, and Westbrook.

08-09, who would be the best player in 5 years? 30% said Oden, 23% Beasley, 23% Rose, 8% Randolph, 8% Westbrook

in 07-08 they also said that Belinelli was the international rookie most ready to contribute in the nba

in 06-07, 26% of GMs thought that Adam Morrison would win rookie of the year

Only 11% said that Roy would be the best player in 5 years, 22% said Tyrus Thomas would be

by muwu on Oct 7, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umm

isnt this the besttimw to pik a project. You Dnt pick a project when you are contending you take on a project when you are rebuilding sir.

by nwkiddnj on Oct 8, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

YES Network

Again, the YES Network proves to be totally ridiculous pulling coverage in the middle of the Net game for the Yankees. This is our HOME network. No message, nothing, just pull the Nets game off and put the Yankee post-game on the air. To hell with the Nets fans! Can’t we please get new coverage for the Nets!! PLEASE!!!

by Jujof on Oct 7, 2010 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

YES should learn from sny. whenever the mets are playing and the jets game is already over, they have to wait until the mets game ENDS before the jets postgame starts. even the last day of the year in a MEANINGLESS mets game, the jets postgame show came on about 2 hours late cause the mets went into extra innings. its called loyalty to your teams. . . but the yankees are bigger than everyone i guess so they need to make sure we cut off the nets for there show.

by njnets1027 on Oct 7, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i complained about YES the other day

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we need to take things in perspective

If the Nets owned the YES network and they were airing a preseason Yankee game while the Nets were playing a PLAYOFF game in another network, would you not cut the preseason game to talk about the Nets?

However, it is more annoying that YES cuts our last few games during the regular season to air Yankee preseason games.

by imdkidd on Oct 7, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL @ being a bust after three games

The kneejerk reactions are hilarious.

T-Will had too many TO’s tonight.

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe Smith is hard to watch btw.

by Tim823 on Oct 7, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Murph can't come back soon enough

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly felt scared watching him, like he was going to break some bones.

by Tim823 on Oct 7, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

come back?

did he leave? You watching robocop again?

by Malorkayel on Oct 7, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The sad part is ...

Favors was the player most Nets fans wanted, so you can’t even kill Rod Thorn, most of you guys had tunnel vision for a PF, it had to be a PF so it had to be Derrick Favors!

Maybe if the fans made it clear we DID NOT want to reach for a project we could have avoided this disaster, but this is the guy most Nets fans wanted and now we got him.

by Dobermite on Oct 7, 2010 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

a disaster?

it’s been three preseason games. He was not expected or projected to hit the ground running. Everyone knew that it would take time for him to adjust. What you worry about is his game to game improvement as a player and adjusting to the speed and physicality of the NBA, and after that, it’s about being consistent from night to night

The Miami Heat are going to beat the stuffing out of this conference, I don’t understand your impatience or your kneejerk reactions to a rookie getting his feet wet. We have plenty of time to develop this kid.

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure that you are kidding about the Nets drafted Favors because they thought that was what the fans wanted, right? I stiill think it was the correct pick,

by ispartan on Oct 8, 2010 12:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mods...Can we ban someone from a thread

for repeating the SAME EXACT Post for like 20 times?

by adronaline on Oct 8, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dont Get Trigger Happy Guys

Favors is still under review.And he plays good defense….really ,he does, i dnt knw how it can be portrayed on tv but when u see him play live its another story…excellent on defense…and thats where it starts for many superstars….lets just give it some more time,not too much but give him time.

by Disconnected on Oct 7, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

He stayed very poised on defense

when garnett tried to take him 1 on 1 in an iso situation. Both times resulted in Garnett missing badly. This is perhaps the most important thing that Favors can show you at this point, that in time he can defend against the elite PFs in this league. that is why we brought him in, not for dunks, jumpshots or offense, for DEFENSE!

by adronaline on Oct 8, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

ouch

what a mean 16 and 7. we should have never traded him!!!

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

We didn't just trade him, We gave him away with additional $3 million cash.

That kind of hurt, getting ripped off. oh well, Yi didn’t fit in the team. He’s not a likable guy.

by Malorkayel on Oct 7, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

ROFL

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I mean about being unlikable.

He gets a serious injury and fans actually cheer.

by Malorkayel on Oct 7, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

no one cheered about him being injured

most of us were annoyed because he’d always get hurt when he was building some steam and then he’d come back and play like crap

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some don't

and some just don’t like the fact that he’s just not that good. Not everyone here hates Yi like you’re trying to imply.

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was always one of the Yi supporters but he just doesn't have "It"

I have seem him put those pretty numbers before… fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

by Claud on Oct 8, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, obviously.

When you have to pay the Wizards to take him from us. Not saying our GM is dumb…

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God some of you guys aren't GM's

Labeling busts after three preseason games wow

by Atronic on Oct 7, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

welcome to the land of the fan

where over reaction is the norm

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

YUUUUUUP

Especially when we only get to watch our games when YES lets usl…We now interrupt your program for a sit down with Yogi Berra lol

by Atronic on Oct 7, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's unbelieveable.

Next game Brook will have an off game and you’ll actually see posts saying TRADE HIM!
Or Favors has a solid game and all of the sudden he’s gonna be KG… Nets fans are extremist.. lol

by Claud on Oct 8, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

what you guys do need to remember is that troy murphy will play plenty of time at PF and do really wwell offensively. and if favors still isnt clicking, it wont really show that much, because murphy/hump/smith can cover the PF until favors can start to be more consistent and not foul

by njnets1027 on Oct 7, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I was pretty close to the action at the game and I gotta say, favors positioning was pretty good on defense. He definitely wasn’t completely lost. There were a couple phantom calls on him. On the offensive end, he just lacked the handle. It was clear he’s still very raw. But for those of you who haven’t been to a game yet, there are just some things he’s doing with his athleticism that is kinda crazy. He will just pull a move out of nowhere. Like that dunk, he bricked, two steps and bam. Kinda came out of nowhere. As long as he can figure out how to match his body w/ the game, he’ll be great.

Section 111 @ Prudential

by swampass on Oct 7, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

that move was sick

he would have killed Davis if he had converted.

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, it definitely would have made Sportscenter highlights

Section 111 @ Prudential

by swampass on Oct 7, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

He seems a little tougher

But I here you, Petro seems a little soft, but its about anticipation and movement of the feet like Jason Collins.

by Atronic on Oct 8, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Petro= Zoubek IMO.

I don’t understand why we shelled out 10mill for this guy but whatever.

by Claud on Oct 8, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey guys if we're forgetting..

Brook Lopez wasn’t all that good during his first preseason either
he was fouling a lot….and not shooting a high percentage…

It takes time for things to click…especially for a 19 year old

a positive for me was that i didn’t see him make any glaring mistakes…
his shots were decent takes…
his 2 offensive fouls that he got for….some reason..i really didn’t see a foul…but those things will get better

by netsball on Oct 7, 2010 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Lopez was 10th pick

No one expected too much from Brook.

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

Yeah, the scouts said Lopez was too slow. He was the most ready Center in the draft. lucky for the Nets he dropped to 10.

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lopez is slow

and he is going to be an all star this season

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 8, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

And next year Favors will average a double double (or at least >9/9). Book it! Be patient everyone…

by Nets4Life on Oct 8, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lopez was also way more polished than Favors coming out of college

That’s why the Nets want to trade Favors because they don’t want to wait. It seems the fans don’t want to wait after last year either. I think if we are willing to wait a year with Favors we’ll probally be in the lottery again, but we’ll be better off in the long run.

Just keep adding pieces and see how the labor agreement turns out. In 2012 we make our run.

by gsloots on Oct 8, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was the 10’th pick who was expected to go top 3…Nets were beyond lucky to get him and he was expected to be a good player.

by Boomdog on Oct 8, 2010 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

imagie where the nets would be if we took joe alexander in 08 draft instead of lopez. . . .

by njnets1027 on Oct 8, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Thank the Bucks.

But they had Bogut. This is the same reason we didn’t draft Cousins. Trying too hard not overlap talent.

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Read this about Durant

The Heat are in Kansas City to play the Thunder in a preseason game on Friday and LeBron James was scheduled to have a party at The Midland, a theater in downtown Kansas City, on Thursday night.

Durant received an invitation, but declined the offer.

“I don’t go out to parties the day before a game,” Durant said. “I really don’t go out too much during the season.”

Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69459/20101007/durant_declines_invitation_to_lebron_party_in_kansas_city/#ixzz11jjcr000

by Atronic on Oct 8, 2010 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

yesh he's what you would call a basketball geek

good thing though…he wants to be prepared..i wish more people were like him..

by netsball on Oct 8, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Durant, who dominated in international competition, wants to win

while Lebron wants to ride coattails. I’d party too if I knew that I wouldn’t have to bust my tail the next day to get a win.

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 8, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at the Cavs rosters

Lebron really screwed that team over. All their forums are dead. No one posts, like NBA basketball died there.

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL @ them

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 8, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

My 2 cents

Overall. I’m disappointed that the Nets lost, but the demeanor of the team is much better than last year.

Section 2 @ the Rock

by R-D on Oct 8, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I really like how Farmar tied the game.

When I was ready to turn the game off. Didn’t expect that at all.

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watching this game again

Favors could have easily had more than 3 pts, he just needs to convert because he had some good looks and he missed 3 FT’s. The block was clean too.

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!

by MrDollarBills on Oct 8, 2010 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiillll on Favors

He is a work in progress. Come back after the all-star break.

by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Oct 8, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Shaq on Brook:
“Reminds me of … I’m going to go with Tim Duncan,” O’Neal said. “Classy guy. You’ll never hear about him getting in trouble. Great moves, great composure, and you’re really not going to faze him. A couple guys will probably try to rough him up, but that’s not going to faze him. Good player. Good player.”

by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Oct 8, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with this one WAY

More than the Courtney Lee STAR stuff

by Atronic on Oct 8, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, that sounds pretty vengeful and petty.

You hate how well they treated him? What is he, a criminal? So he wasn’t a very good player, he isn’t entitled to a happy birthday? C’mon man…. These are people too.

All Star voting stuff is marketing… nothing to do with Lee.

by Paul G B on Oct 8, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is weird. why does the team with the lowest attendance have, by far, the most posts on the blog for the game threads, etc. . ???

by njnets1027 on Oct 8, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

1. 50% due to Lack of respect.

2. 50% due to Net Income.

by jerry25 on Oct 8, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because you have to love basketball

to be a Nets fan. So anybody that’s a Nets fan probably loves the game itself more than your average Celtics fan.

I find most fans love winning more than they love the game itself. They don’t really want to talk about it so much as they want to wear the flipping hats and jerseys and look hip.

George Carlin said something about these types of people that I couldn’t possible print here.

by TWilliAM on Oct 8, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

bill maher...

has a pretty excellent take on sports fans in america…

by Chakroot on Oct 8, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Few fans, but passionate ones.

The Expos had some really great fans too…. But each one only had 1 butt to put in a seat.

And yeah, tickets are expensive and lots of us live far away (I am in albany).

by Paul G B on Oct 8, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have been to 5 Mets games in my entire life...

and each one was when they were playing my Expo’s…

by Chakroot on Oct 8, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts on this game...

First of all let’s keep in mind that this is pre-season, so let’s keep our cool and realize that players are still trying to find their rhythm.
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Brook Lopez- Beast offensively, the only player that can probably stop him one on one is Howard. Definitely a future allstar. He must improve defensively and his rebounding and become more of a leader. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if he ends up winning a couple of championships once his career is over. Needs to keep working hard and hit the gym!

Derrick Favors- Very very raw. Has unlimited potential on both sides of the court and I hope he puts it together. He’s the youngest player in the entire league and needs more time on the court to learn the kinks of the game. Definitely not ready to be a starter yet. I find it silly that people want to get rid him already. Let’s give him time and he will learn. People are expecting too much out of him right now. Needs to forget about this game and learn from it.

Devin Harris- Looks rusty, I liked Farmar better. Looked solid defensively and didn’t force the issue. His shot is still awful but he will be better this year. Didn’t knock down his FTs.

Terrence Williams- Very gifted player. Has a playmaker’s mentality but it’s not there yet. Tonight he rushed most of his shots and didn’t attack the rim enough for my liking. He tries too hard to make spectacular passes but sometimes you need a simple one. Must learn and become more focused. Definitely a player to keep an eye on.

Travis Outlaw- AWFUL defensively. He does not take advantage of his size and athleticism. Never once attacked the rim and settled for shots. I am regretting giving him the 35 million $ more and more.

Anthony morrow- Awful defensively, let Ray penetrate way too easily. I hate to say it but he is one dimensional. he shot the ball ok today but shooting is the only thing I have seen out of him so far. Definitely not a starter IMO.

Humphries- always brings heart and displays an enormous motor. excellent bench player. Didn’t force the issue today(thank god) rebounded and was solid defensively.

Farmar- Very poised and cool. Ran the team better than I expected. Kept up with his man defensively and always seemed under control. Good shooter and distributor.

Petro- Looked subpar today. Not aggressive enough IMO. rebounded and played just OK. I hope to see more from him. Spending 10 mill when we have Zoubek might not have been such a bright idea.

Graham- Very good size and did a solid job on Pierce. Very limited offensively but can definately dunk the ball.

Damion James- I really don’t understand why Avery played him very little. Looked very feisty defensively and aggressive on offense. I like him more than Outlaw already.

Uzoh- Didn’t see him out there.

All of our players need a lot of work in all areas IMO. This is barely pre-season but at least we get to see where some players are as of today. There were a lot of things that I liked and others not so much.

Final note- Damion James needs to get more PT and Favors needs time. We all knew he was a project but for some reason people seem to be freaking out now.

LET’S GO NETS!

by Claud on Oct 8, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Just finished watching tonights game for the second time

Not bad at all.

THE LAST (2) FOULS CALLED ON FAVORS WERE COMPLETE BS, GARBAGE CALLS!

by fioravantim on Oct 8, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

rookie calls

Brook used to get them all the time too. Favors will adjust.

by Claud on Oct 8, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Derrick Favors has BUST written all over him. He couldn’t even lead his collage team in rebounding. He’s a real softy. More than likely the next Michael Olowokandi… mark my words!”

by strange-brew on Oct 8, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's Rookie

Cut the kid some slack here. We know this kid(literally) isn’t polished yet. He’s project and it will take time

Section 2 @ the Rock

by R-D on Oct 8, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

“I’m predicting Favors to bust – classic athletic big man who can’t play. Usually doesn’t work out.”

by strange-brew on Oct 8, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's great!

Keep’em coming! At this rate Denver will definitely give up- Excellent!

by NJNM on Oct 8, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

“I keep hearing people say how great his body is. How his measurements are same as Dwight before he was drafted. I just don’t see it. When he is out there on the court his body looks very average. He doesn’t seem to be a jump out the gym guy. He doesn’t seem to have any super advanced skills. I think the chances he will be viewed as a bust are fairly high.”

by strange-brew on Oct 8, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

have you been to a game yet?

Section 111 @ Prudential

by swampass on Oct 8, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

with nuggets scout in attendance

and favors playing horrible… and personally i hate to say it bc ive doubted t-will all along but a guy who looks like he really could be an all star… maybe the nuggets scout will come back and say “hey, forget favors we need to get t-will in this deal” although im startin to love t-will… i think thatd be great if that did happen

by cdr4prez on Oct 8, 2010 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

"cdr4prez"???

What’s with that handle?

not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.

by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 8, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

umm yea

That’s what it says.. is there somethin that neeeds to be explained further pal?

by cdr4prez on Oct 8, 2010 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Uhm, yeah

Are you a CDR fan or is that sarcasm? Just wondering, pal.

not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.

by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 8, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pre-season...

It’s pre-season folks, nobody should be jumping off of any bridges, and Favors is 19 years old, just 19 years old. We have a whole new team too. We kept up with the Celtics, one of the top 5 teams in the league. I enjoyed watching Brook try and play SHAQ, the man is still a load, at, what 38 years of age? At least the game was on TV! GO NETS!

Paul from Delray Beach

by PaulErstein on Oct 8, 2010 2:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Hype

Favors was so overmatched.

Observation: Celtics played like a team, even the 2nd and 3rd units. Nets played like individuals. Celtics ran plays and when they broke down, they went to plan b. Nets ran few plays. Look like a one on one team. Yes, its early and they don’t know each other, but..

We have much better shooters. But we are still overmatched at key positions.

Lopez is ready for the big stage.

Melo ain’s comin here if they saw what I saw from Favors.

by oman8 on Oct 8, 2010 6:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Yea they played as if...

It was only their third time playing together as a team! Give it time for the chemistry to build and the nerves to settle. Favors is a project. We know that. But everybody wants him to be a star NOW. We’ve been jaded by Yi and SWat and the Kwames and Tyruses of the league and now every big man ever drafted will be labeled a BUST before they play a single game. GIVE FAVORS TIME.

I think Outlaw is gonna come around, too. He just got a contract that has been very publicly criticized. He’s probably very nervous about justifying it. Let him work out the nerves and gel with a whole new organization.

The Nets will be just fine. The sky is not falling, all you chicken littles need to relax.

by JohnFromLongIsland on Oct 8, 2010 7:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nobody's asking Favors to be a star

Just not… d-league material. Which was is what he’s been playing like for the last 2 games. Hasheem Thabeet-ish

by muwu on Oct 8, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hasheem Thabeet-ish

Thabeet is 23 years old and was abused in college by much smaller players. They really aren’t similar in any way other than the fact Favors is struggling in some of the same ways.

by TWilliAM on Oct 8, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

NY/NJ fans have no mercy.

Favors and his supporters need the harden Go Nets up!

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

True dat.

1) Sports Fanatics nutty – Check
2) Favors bad game – Check

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

favors

For the people knocking Favors his a 19 year old kid matched up against several future NBA HOFers. Also Boston is probably the most physical and experienced squad in d NBA

by Blkswizz on Oct 8, 2010 7:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Still like what i see from favors…have patience fellas hes a rookie…cousins and wes are more ready now….but favors is rele going to help us out….especially on the boards and defense ( come naturally to him). I still think hes going to do very well

"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.

by Andy. on Oct 8, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

i think nets should give damion james a start in the preseason just to test him out…..maybe outlaw is more comfortable off the bench lol

"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.

by Andy. on Oct 8, 2010 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

+ 1

Rec’d

Section 2 @ the Rock

by R-D on Oct 8, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

STOP MAKING SENSE!

Can’t rec from a mobile, but I’m thinking of faking sick and going home from work, just so I could rec this.

by JohnFromLongIsland on Oct 8, 2010 9:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Wow.. you calling out the meth?

Pretty brave of you to defend Favors after a poor performance. We know he’s a rookie, but bad is bad. Keep’n it real.

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Coming from the guy still defending Yi…

by JohnFromLongIsland on Oct 8, 2010 11:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You defend Yi too?

There was a huge difference in Yi had a terrible game and Yi caused our entire team to be worst in the League.

I will agree to Favors having a bad game.

But I wouldn’t go so far to assume Favors is the root of Nets failure. That’s where I stand.

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont get the rush to trade favors…

the fans love favors…when he went for that dunk the crowd went wild and it was a miss!

when favors got that block on harangody the crowd went crazy…favors is here to stay!

"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.

by Andy. on Oct 8, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Adronaline.

Rec’d

Do people actually believe that Favors is going to start off putting up 20pts and 10rbs?

Some People on this board are truly delusional.

If those same people took a step back and looked at the make up of this team, they would realize what they are typing is stupid.

With lopez as the main post threat do you really think Favors is going to have big offensive numbers?

Favors is going to be Lopez’s defensive side kick. Expect Favors to avg. close to 15pts and 8 rbs and play some solid defense, PEOPLE!!!!

Lower your expectations and you will feel better and would help us STOP wasting our time reading your ridiculous comments.

by SIC One on Oct 8, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I expect 15/8 next year

Not this year.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!

by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad some one else saw that Favors D

Garnett couldn’t get a clean shot off. Shaq backed down Lopez on one play like Lopez was made of silk curtains – understandable because he’s shaq – but then a few plays later Garnett tried the same thing on Favors and he stood his ground, budged a little, put his arms up, caused a miss, and grabbed the ball. Had that been Sean Williams, an unfair comparison all to many posters are making, he would have jumped up for the block, drawn the foul, and we would have potentially given up two points.

Had he finished that dunk on Davis we would all be talking a little but more in his favor.

by Will J on Oct 8, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just wait till he's going up against the likes of Bargani and Ed Davis, etc...

He’ll make those teams look a lot less powerful. His first NBA action he struggled, then he came back the next game against much tougher competition in the post – and while his stats don’t show it all – he played a better game. He will only continue to improve.

by Will J on Oct 8, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Favors will be fine, he had some pretty good looking D out there, but guys like shaq and KG are hard to stop, specially your third game in.

Vets always know how to expose rookies, after the game Avery Johnson had said KG pulled an “old man” move and sealed him out well, forcing him to commit errant fouls. people need to stop judging so microscopic, specially a rookie, maybe Travis Outlaw he has to earn his contract

by Benl1 on Oct 8, 2010 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

So this is the Favors bash thread?

Actually, the more I watch him play, the less I would trade him for Melo, and that includes last night.

Some of you are quite short sighted, and apparently don’t remember that this kid is only 19 years old. He’s explosive, active, and is going to drop a lot of jaws this year, regardless of what team he plays on.

More and more, I wouldn’t trade him. Denver missed their shot.

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by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 9:15 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Melo >>>> Favors

You can do better at making a point to be patient with Favors than comparing him to Melo.

I mean, come on.

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

You could do a better job at reading

Since I didn’t compare them.

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by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trade topic is considered comparison.

You mentioned both names. But I failed at reading.

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't compare the two

Melo is light years beyond Favors, and I doubt he ever becomes close to what Melo is. But there is a ton of ability in this kid, and he could end up being an Amar’e. Nothing I’ve seen so far tells me that’s a long shot.

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by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trade rumors hurts team chemistry.

Favors is ok, had a bad game. Fouling out didn’t help him. Cousins fouled out too, but he put up slightly better stats and didn’t have trade rumor hanging over his head.

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cousins is also NBA ready

Favors is going to need a few years.

In the end, he’ll be much better than Demarcus “Big Baby 2” Cousins.

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by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to agree with you. But

No proof Favors will be better than Cousins in the end. I was only under the impression that Cousins was more like a Center and Favors a PF and Nets drafted for need at PF.

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

What are you expecting from Favors?

Do you think he is going to be 20pt 10rb guy with Lopez at Center?

You need to lower your expectations, buddy.

Favors is a perfect complement to Lopez. He plays defense unlike Cousins.

by SIC One on Oct 8, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

You need to.

Kevin Garnett Rookie Year – 10pts 6rbs 1.6bk 2ast
Dwight Howard Rookie Year – 12pts 10rbs 1.7bk 1 ast
Kenyon Martin Rookie Year – 12pts 7rbs 1.7bk

Stop the F’EN Madness!!!

by SIC One on Oct 8, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

That near Favors highlight poster dunk

Was incredibly impressive. His move was so quick and he got up SO high. He hit the other side of the rim because he was absolutely way too high.

The distance between him and big baby’s hand was like 2 feet.

You never saw anything like that from Sean Williams, who some people are comparing him to. You did see that from people like… Amar’e and Howard.

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by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Ya exactly. I was in row 5 on that corner when he almost threw that down. Just the way he exploded to that jump was something I’ve only seen from a few players.

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by swampass on Oct 8, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's been said.

But I’ll say it again. RELAX, kids!
It was our 2nd real preseason game and virtually the whole machine is new, in every possible way. As for DFavors, if you didn’t see the potential in the kid last night to be very very good eventually (and even a contributor this year), you don’t know your hoops.
Considering what went down last year and how new and different and young we are this year, you all should be jumping for joy that already, we have the beginnings of the first step: to be competitive.
So, sit back, relax, let Avery and the staff work and the kids find their identity, and renjoy the process.

by Jron on Oct 8, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

And btw

I’m not counting Maccabi Haffa as a preseason game. They aren’t an NBA team and shouldn’t be a measuring stick.

Right now we are 1 – 1, no better than last year (yet). Good chance to go 2 – 1 on Saturday.

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by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Al Ian

I don’t miss Frank… really. He didn’t die, he’s working for the Celtics. You really think Frank would have turned things around? I mean what has the guy done w/o Jason Kidd running the team?

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Sensitive

Why are we so sensitive. Favors is not ready. Avery has been talking about starting him. Anyone with eyes can see that is ridiculous. He may turn into a good pro, but he is far from that. I am worried because the Nuggets may devalue him and we may lose Melo to someone else. I am also worried that Avery has BSed a bit too much and hyped him to trade him. Who is going to trust the Nets now? Look, when the coach said he might start him, our hopes get raised. Then we see how raw he is and we think, either the coach is nuts, or the coach is building him up to trade him, or the kid can’t handle the pressure and folds. He has a long way to go.

I think they will be alright and he will be alright, but the idea of 40 wins and Favors starting is just overdoing it folks! With Murphy they will be a better team.

by oman8 on Oct 8, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

What haven't you liked about him?

I’ve liked everything I’ve seen so far. He’s raw, but he’s an athletic freak. Tons of potential.

I’m sure the Nuggets scouts know that too.

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by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Deleted some comments in this post and sent out a few warnings.

Just discuss the topic (the game, Favors, etc.) without taking shots at those who disagree with you or trying to tell people how they should react themselves. It’s fine to disagree, but do it respectfully.

Thanks.

NetsDaily.com

by NetsDaily on Oct 8, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I would give up Favors for Melo

without blinking or thinking twice about it.

by GrandKenyon6 on Oct 8, 2010 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

So would King

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by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our new "shooters"

Let’s see. Our new “shooters” have shot in the two preseason games against NBA opponents:

Outlaw: 5-15 (.333 FG%)
Morrow: 5-16 (.313 FG%)

I’m sure they will both improve – especially Morrow – but they both take a lot of ill-advised, high difficulty shots.

I have said repeatedly that Outlaw is NOT a “shooter”. His FG% is relatively low, as is his TS%. Haven’t seen anything so far to change my mind.

by A.S. on Oct 8, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought Outlaw

Shot the ball well, but his defense was like he gave no effort.

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

he looked like he was in slow motion on a turn-around mid range jumper...

and that was after he failed to take it to the hole once the defense opened up. he looks like a purely mid-range talent… which is nice to have. but what he showed me last night was that

A) he’s not ready to be this team’s go-to scorer…
B) he’s NOT a shut-down defender…
and C) i think we overpaid for him.

by Chakroot on Oct 8, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

they rush there shots...

PRESEASON

"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.

by Andy. on Oct 8, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

They'll get better

No doubt about that.

I don’t know why they aren’t spreading the floor more with Lopez. Have Morrow dump the ball to Lopez, if they double, he kicks back out to Morrow for the 3. If they don’t Lopez is going to get a good shot at scoring.

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!

by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering the same thing

We tossed it inside to Brook, but it never popped back out the the 3-pt line for the dagger. No one missed the dagger, it just never popped out. Wasn’t that the new thing that all these shooters were supposed bring?

not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.

by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 8, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair to Brook

Avery doesn’t want him to pass out. He wants him to take his man and score, which he’s now done the past 2 games in a row awesomely.

I think Avery is trying to develop Brook into a dominant big man who always wants his shot, and then let the pass out come once he gets that first part down at an All Star level.

Love what Avery is doing. He made Brook run and up & down just because he passed out during practice haha

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by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some of these comments embarrass me

another note. TWill, looks like he wants to be the best player he can b. Just a little to flash. Brook knows he is the man on this team. And Avery was preseason avert noway he stays this calm through out the season. It all starts with mentality and I think twill and brook have the right mentality. Hope the sheep follow

by nwkiddnj on Oct 8, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Twill is starting material

I think he’ll see a lot of GS in his stats this year.

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by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking that if

Murphy is starting then you have to start TWill at SG just to balance out defensively a little more. Morrow with Outlaw and Murphy would be catastrophic, or at least that’s my impression from last nights game. Still hope both Outlaw and Morrow can show more.

by adronaline on Oct 8, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was totally bummed out on how the Nets looked last night...

They looked like a very young team that had only played a few weeks together.

In fact one of those young players looked like he had never played in a regular season NBA game before.

And they couldn’t even beat a poor team like the Celtics.

Very disappointing indeed…

by M I K E on Oct 8, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Once the team comes back from overseas...

They will look more like a team… Right now they are getting to know each other and learning how to play together. Last night you saw a lot of one on one play. A player’s like Outlaw, Morrow and Favors will look much better when the play making of the team improves…

by M I K E on Oct 8, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

And when they learn

Avery’s system better. It doesn’t happen overnight, you know?

by adronaline on Oct 8, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

As funny as this post is. It shows you how silly most posters are

youbwere being sarcastic and may have has the best and most intellectual post the whole day.

by nwkiddnj on Oct 8, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think the biggest storyline is

who will be running the team by the all-star break- farmar or harris?

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Oct 8, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

and if harris losers his starting spot

will he become totally disgruntled. i’m hoping that farmar pushes harris to play better. but sometimes, competittion makes some players force things and shut down. we’ll see

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Oct 8, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Harris will not lose his starting job...

He would be traded before that ever happened.

by M I K E on Oct 8, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're probably right

then the questions become- what do we get for him? and are we ok going w/ a farmar/uzoh combo

imagine something extremely witty here

by Gminski on Oct 8, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Farmar is quick enough for some of the faster PG's in the NBA...

and Uzoh is a rookie… I doubt the Nets will trade Harris just to trade him.

by M I K E on Oct 8, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Both

Harris will be on the Bobcats.

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by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think people are overreacting a bit much...

Yes, we lost the game… but it’s not like we lost by a lot. I actually enjoyed watching this game more than the previous two. We all know that Favors is very raw and will take some time for him to get adjusted to the NBA when we drafted him. It’s only the 3rd preseason game, I don’t think we should give up on him based on just that… at least wait until the end of the season.

I still remember how a lot of Nets fans were calling T.Williams a bust last year early in the season, and how everyone wanted to trade him. But most of us here now thinks T.Williams is one of the better players on the roster, and can be a very good player if he continues to improve. All I am saying is give our rookie a chance before you make any judgement.

by LetsGoNets on Oct 8, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Loved watching him go against KG

To actually call it a measuring stick is silly. This is an all-time NBA great going against a 19 year old kid.

But I loved what I saw anyway.

Guarantee Denver does too.

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by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not just fans. Media is going nuts also.

Quote: The Nuggets sent a scout to watch Derrick Favors play in the pre-season Thursday night.

The Nets remain determined to try to complete a trade for Carmelo Anthony and Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated reports that the team is confident it has the best package to offer for Denver’s superstar.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports (via Twitter)

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

So Carmelo will be starting for us on Saturday?

Great…I knew we would finally make this trade. Lets celebrate… Stoli’s anyone?

by M I K E on Oct 8, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could happen.

But I thought deal was done a week ago :P

by Malorkayel on Oct 8, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did you notice how quickly Avery pulled T-Will...

when T-Will started to get out of control trying to match his buddy Nate Robinson’s one on one style of play?.

by M I K E on Oct 8, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling, and not because of the Denver scout

that nobody is offering up anything significant for Melo (besides possibly kaman), and that at some point Denver will be desperate and come back to us. Makes me worry about Favors.

by SamsHops on Oct 8, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

offering up Favors...

Now I know how Abraham must have felt offering up Isaac.
It’s all new…owner, arena…In a way Derrick is the Net’s first born son being he was our first draft pick of this new Net’s era.
It really seems sad in a way that we would sacrifice him for the glory of the moment instead of taking the time and the patience to develop him to his fullest potential.

by aunt-B on Oct 8, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Except

I’m pretty convinced that Melo doesn’t want to come here…

by adronaline on Oct 8, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

seriously...

You Favors haters are idiots and D*** riders…im not even reading these comments anymore. When he had a good game ur own hisD*** when he adjusts and learns the game against real NBA talent u hate u fans SUCK! He’s the youngest kid in the NBA a rookie, 1 year college experience. What do u want an insant superstar? theres only one: John Wall. You want muslces ? you want a 6 pack? it takes times and work to get that…cant expect 20 and 10 in 3 games wht the hell is wrong with u sucky A$$fans??

by JerzeyBlaze on Oct 8, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

+1 I agree... We should trade Favors now...

Maybe we can get a second round pick before his value drops any further..

by M I K E on Oct 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree, its too early to critisize him

by netsforever91 on Oct 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

for what it's worth

Favors is already a specimen athletically

by SamsHops on Oct 8, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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