Celtics Hand Nets First Preseason Loss Despite Lopez's 23
The Nets' winning streak came to an end with a 96-92 loss to the Celtics at the Prudential Center Thursday night. Behind 13 points from Brook Lopez, the Nets led 28-19 after the first quarter, but the Celtics' bench outscored them 37-26 in the second and Boston took control with a 9-2 run to start the third.
The Nets came back and tied the game on a Jordan Farmar three with a minute to go in the fourth, but Marquis Daniels answered with a three for the Celtics. The Nets had a chance to tie in the final seconds, but Anthony Morrow stepped out of bounds before he could get a shot off. None of the Celtic starters and only two of the Net starters were on the floor at the end of the game.
In spite of getting into a fender-bender near the Lincoln Tunnel before the game, Lopez led all scorers with 23 points, getting to the line 15 times. Terrence Williams added 17 points and five assists off the bench. But Devin Harris did not do much in his 17 minutes, while Morrow and Travis Outlaw combined to shoot just 6-for-19 from the field. With a Nuggets scout in attendance, Derrick Favors made just one of his six shots and finished with three points, four rebounds and a block before fouling out in 24 minutes. Adrian Wojnarowski tweets despite the presence of Mike Bratz, "no new movement on a possible deal for Carmelo Anthony." After making 15 of their 28 threes in their first two preseason games, the Nets hit went just 5-for-18 from beyond the arc and shot just 40 percent from the field overall.
In post-game interviews, Avery Johnson, Doc Rivers and Shaq all had positive things to say about Lopez, with O'Neal telling writers, "He is like Tim Duncan. Classy guy. You'll never hear a bad word about him. Great player."
- Boxscore - ESPN
- Celtics win second in as many nights on late three-pointer by Daniels - Tom Canavan - AP
- Game Highlights (Video) - NBA.com
- In limited time against Celtics starters, Nets still fall 96-92 in preseason game - Conor Orr - Star-Ledger
- Shaq calls Brook Lopez 'classy guy,' Derrick Favors talks about lessons learned - Conor Orr - Star-Ledger
- D'Alessandro: Celtics refuse to fade away - Dave D'Alessandro - Star-Ledger
- Nets will learn from this game - Al Iannazzone - The Nets Insider
- Lopez stars in Nets’ loss - Al Iannazzone - In the 'Zzone
- Nets missed Lawrence Frank - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- Garnett teaches Favors a lesson - Brian Lewis
- Favors runs afoul again - Stefan Bondy - New York Daily News
- Lopez involved in car accident on his way to the game, still starting - Stefan Bondy - The InterNets
- Shaq talks about Amar'e posing naked - Stefan Bondy - The InterNets
- Shaq compares B.Lopez to T.Duncan - Chris Sheridan - ESPN New York
- First impressions: Celtics 96, Nets 92 - Boston Celtics Blog - Chris Forsberg - ESPN Boston
- Marquis Daniels back in his groove - Chris Forsberg - ESPN Boston
- Postgame notes: Delonte's back flares up - Chris Forsberg - ESPN Boston
- Glen Davis, second-unit mates cut down Nets - Steve Bulpett - Boston Herald
- Celtics Bench Helps Grind Out Preseason Victory Over Nets - Evans Clinchy - NECN
- Celtics bench steps up in 96-92 win over Nets - A. Sherrod Blakely - NECN
- West ready to do it all for C's - A. Sherrod Blakely - CSNNE
- Daniels An Early Bright Spot - Jeff Clark - Celtics Blog
- More Notes from the Nets Game - Tom Halczak - Celtics Blog
- Morrow Shooting for Allen's Achievements - Ben Couch - New Jersey Nets
- Photo Gallery - Nets vs. Celtics - Bill Kostroun - AP
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Great game
but I have to say that ummmmm Favors looks like ummmmmmmmmmmmmm never mind.
TERRENCE WILLIAMS FOR SIXTH MAN OF THE YEAR AND MIP!!!! book it
Well all of those who don't want Melo should be plenty happy
Safe to say we’ve scared off the Nuggets from wanting Favors
dont trade favors!
good thing the nuggets scout came today and saw him play horribly
but its also a bad thing since it shows that the nuggets still want to trade melo for favors + other people
i think in the same way!
before i didn’t want the melo trade but after this games i think that it would be the best for us!
FARMAR
T-WILL/ D. JAMES
MELO/ OUTLAW
HUMP, TROY
LOPEZ /PETRO
WE MAKE THE PLAYOFFS EASLY!
by Sérgio Silva on Oct 8, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe not...
Farmar is solid but a clear drop off from Devin. He will play 20-25 minutes for us this year and everyone will love him (backup QB syndrome). If he started and played 35+ minutes we would all turn on him.
Lopez will never see the ball with Melo, Hump and TWILL competing to jack the most shots in the shortest time in the shot clock. And since none of them are high percentage shooters don’t look for us to lead the league in scoring.
Speaking of scoring it is hard to imagine a more scary defensive team. Farmar is the only above average defender in the group. And while TWILL could be a very good defender, Melo, Hump and Lopez will get overrun by even average front courts.
And don’t even ask me about rebounding. All those missed shots are going to the other team.
Should be fun to watch…..all those fast breaks by the other team….
What about Murphy's rebounding?
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 8, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
u place hump over murphy? u cant be serious man
by netsforever91 on Oct 8, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Good Game tho...
Joe Smith looked ok. Grahm looked pretty strong. I felt our combos were odd at times but its pre-season. Without Devin and T-Wil in the game the offense looked stiff. Favors looked a lttle out of sorts but his defensive positioning was ok for the most part. He missed a few chippies around the rim. Still finding himself patience…. As i go watch what big cuz does,,,
The JETS/NETS are coming!
Yeah I wonder how this affects a possible Melo trade
Dear Sucker I Mean Met Fan
Thank you for your support if you thought this season was tough to swallow wait til next year. Thanks, The Pons.
-TheKid08
Lol it doesn't
Favors having a tough night against KG won’t affect his trade value.
It’s his 3rd NBA game.
Section 129 2010-2011 @ the ROCK
But remember Ujiri is a moron
Dear Sucker I Mean Met Fan
Thank you for your support if you thought this season was tough to swallow wait til next year. Thanks, The Pons.
-TheKid08
by NetsMets4Life on Oct 7, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
it doesnt affect it too much
even if the Nets and Nuggets agreed to a trade, Anthony has to want to sign an extension with us, and he doesn’t seem very interested (thank GOD).
Still quick and got by people
Fed Brook the ball… What more do you want. Gave the shooters a chance to…. SHOOT. We won’t look very good when we aren’t making shots. Expected more from Outlaw. We need hom to be aggressive if he is starting. If not start T-Will.
The JETS/NETS are coming!
rondo sucks!
He never has good games against Devin Harris
boston tv announcers
Just wanted to say that the boston tv announcers are the dumbest people ive ever heard call a game. I am not in the area so I watched on NBA tv and after the 1st 5 minutes during which the YES broadcast was shown, they switched to the Celtics broadcast and it was painful to watch. Most of the dumb things they said I just ignored but the one thing that really annoyed me was that they continuously said that basically Lopez is worthless on defense, saying that he never even bothers attempting to block shots. He averages 1.8 blocks a game for his career so thats a little ridiculous. But I guess I shouldnt expect anything less from BOSTON commentators. Oh and 1 more thing, people need to stop giving up on Favors after THREE preseason games. Its a little absurd.
Nobody is giving up on him
But some people started screaming “untouchable” after his performance against Maccabi.
Section 129 2010-2011 @ the ROCK
I totally agree
i never heard so many biased individuals call a game in my life!!!!!!!!!!!
Now do you guys see why I hated the Favors pick?
Dude has BUST written all over him and you all know it, even if you don’t want to admit it.
If Rod Thorn was leaving he never should have been allowed to make that pick
I can’t believe we let him make that pick when he/we knew he was leaving.
UNBELIEVABLE
I wanted Wes Johnson or Cousins
… and I said I liked both of them better than Turner too!
But the one guy I wanted no part of was Favors, I knew that pick had disaster written all over it.
So how is Wes doing?
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 8, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah we can give him a chance
WE HAVE NO CHOICE
I’m Just saying I don’t see it happening.
I hope I’m wrong, but its scary how bad he looks.
Dude also has stud written all over him
he is 19 remember, and we already have an offensive center, and Johnson is a regular rotation player at best
Preseason Game #3 Report Card
Damion James: B-
Limited action, hit a couple free throws, took a few wild shots that could have been avoided. Whatever.
*Ben Uzoh: Incomplete
He played 18 seconds.
*Kris Humphries: B
Played excellent on defense in the limited time he saw. Hit a couple free throws, +7 efficiency. Nice work, even though he was sitting as Avery looked at rotations involving Favors and Joe Smith.
*Stephen Graham: C-
Pretty much invisible tonight. Had a blocked shot and looked alright on defense. Committed more fouls than shots attempted. Not much playing time, but didn’t show much tonight.
*Joe Smith: B-
I’m not totally upset with Joe Smith. 3-5 from the field and 4-6 from the line for 10 points. Grabbed a few boards. Looked pretty bad on defense, though. Can’t expect too much more from a senior citizen.
*Johan Petro: C-
Didn’t see anything from this guy tonight, offensively or defensively. Yeah, he grabbed 5 boards, but he was dominated by Glen Davis. Committed way too many fouls, and at one point committed 2 in 10 seconds. Dissapointing tonight.
*Devin Harris: C+
Didn’t drive to the rim as much as he could have, maybe because of his injury. I don’t have much to say, if he doesn’t drive to the basket constantly, he isn’t a good point guard. Managed 8 points and 4 dimes, but committed some turnovers and looked average on defense. Let’s see how he does on Saturday.
*Derrick Favors: D
The guy has a quick first step, but he just didn’t look like an NBA player today. Almost had a ferocious dunk that would have been #1 on Top Plays, but missed it. Fouled out again. Defense sub par (although he did have one nice block that was probably a goaltend). All in all, he was discombobulated and looked lost on the court. It will come with time, I hope.
*Brook Lopez: A
Glad to see Lopez is back to all-star form. Drove to the hoop and got fouled a ton (13-15 FT), scored 23 points, no fouls and only one turnover. Didn’t do a great job on Davis, but got Shaq in major foul trouble. He didn’t get as much help defense as he chould have. Overall, great job by Lopez tonight.
*Jordan Farmar: B
Missed a bunch of shots and committed some silly turnovers, but he had a lot of nice, exciting passes and hit a clutch three down the stretch. I think he looked alright on D. Decent job tonight by Farmar.
*Travis Outlaw: C-
His stats look alright. He hit a few tough jumpers and nailed a couple threes. But the 6 jumpers he missed were very ill-advised shots, dribbling halfway turned towards the basket and heaving up a jumper. His defense was absolutely atrocious on Pierce. Sub-par job by Outlaw tonight.
*Anthony Morrow: D
Committed way too many turnovers (including one that sealed the Boston victory). Couldn’t hit any shots. His defense was atrocious on Robinson, Daniels and West. I hope he finds a rhythm before the season starts.
*Terrence Williams: B+
*He did a solid job tonight. Took a few wild shots and missed a few easy ones. Screwed up a few fast breaks. 5 turnovers is too many. His defense was alright, and he did score 17 and dish out 5 assists. Solid job by Mr. T tonight.
Team Grade: B-
Strengths:
Inside offense
Ability to get to the foul line
Weaknesses:
Defense (especially perimeter)
Poor three-point shooting
Turnovers
Shooting drought towards the end of the game when stops were being made.
thanks giacomo
too bad nets couldn’t make FT’s when they got there….also
another strength was showing heart against a great team
Shooting drought towards the end of the game when stops were being made.
This is why we need a go-to guy despite some people here saying that’s overrated.
Favors
Honestly I hate that we drafted Favors… I think Wes Johnson would have been an awesome pick, hell or even Cousins…. What is stopping Favors from being the next Sean Williams? He’s an athletic big man with an extremely raw game.
I spent months in this forum and others begging the Nets to take Wes Johnson
Or if they had to take a BIG, then it has to be Cousins
That was my plea for months, please take Wes Johnson and if you can’t, then at least take Cousins who is NBA ready right now and has the ability to be an elite big man, but please make it one or the other and avoid Favors.
I begged for months.
Our STARTING PF Didn't play at all tonight...
Derrick Favors isn’t the starter. And he will learn. Tonight asking Favors to DESTROY KG, Shaq (hall of famers) and Big baby (excellent big man who played in 2 Nba Finals) Is asking ALOT of a 19 year old Rookie. And trust Favors isn’t the only one tryng to find himself. Outlaw (35 million over 5 years 7 yrs experience) Looked real lost thats a bigger concern for me.
The JETS/NETS are coming!
Will you be saying that when...
Wes Johnson is riding the pine behind Webster or when Cousins gets arrested or starts being the Village idiot everyone thinks he is??? How many games before Bg Cuz slaps or chokes Tyreke? Same dude who likes to basket hang. Get carried away if you want to…lol. After a 12 win Season we have nothing but time.
The JETS/NETS are coming!
Favors is 6'10 246+ pounds already
You can expect him to grow a lot bigger soon.. Favors is 19, basically one year out of college. Fans need to chilax sometimes. Just because some teenager doesn’t do well against 2 future HOF big men doesn’t mean he will become the next Mile Ilic.. At worst he is a huge body, providing rebounding with defense. But I think he will be a lot more than that in the future..
NBA ready does not mean anything for us right now. We are not championship contenders, Cousins would have been great right now, but what does that get us? A first round exit? In 5 years, Favors and Lopez will be the best frontcourt in the NBA and Prokhy’s prediction can come true. The guys can grow together now. After the Heat, Celtics, Lakers, Spurs, and all those old times are gone, the Nets will have players in their prime (Favors only 24) ready to compete with the next generation of NBA teams.
~AC24
our perimeter D still sucks
those threes we gave up on.. Nate, West, those threes really hurt.
and of course the missed free throws.
Favors is RAW
he needs a year or two at least
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Oct 7, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
I said it before the draft and I'll say it again
Drafting Daerrick Favors with the #3 Overall Pick would be (and was) a colossal mistake.
Wow you like a genius 3 pre-season games in...lol
do you read tarrot cards as well???
The JETS/NETS are coming!
Doesn't take a genius to see this kid was grossly overrated
He might become a decent player down the road, but I see no indication he will ever be a TOP 3 caliber player, in other words an elite big man.
I haven’t see one thing to indicate that is possible.
I WISH I DID, I’m a Nets fan, but I haven’t see one thing to indicate he can be special.
he was drafted for potential
or did you miss that too?
And again, and again...?
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 8, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
To All the Favors Haters After this Game:
seriously? You’re going to start talking about a 19 year old kid fresh out of college who has played exactly two nba preseason games so far in his career? IMO, the only player drafted who is NBA ready is Wall. Favors will show his brilliance here and there, but its going to take time before he becomes the stud we know he can be. For now, he needs to get used to the NBA. In other words, he needs to get used to getting a foul called on him every 2.5 seconds.
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle
Nets drafted for need, Randy, and reached for an overrated PF
Who had NO BUSINESS being a TOP 3 Pick
IMO
Now that's taking it a bit too far
Hey, he really hasn’t looked good in two preseason games, but you’re judging a bit much. I’m disappointed but it too soon to label him overrated.
IMD, he wasn't even a dominant player in college!
That’s what I was trying to tell people before the draft, but no-one would listen.
Why would you draft a player in the TOP 3 who wasn’t even a dominator in college?
To me that is the definition of “overrated”
Yeah that was the excuse
And I warned everyone … DON’T BUY IT
Its a fact
Everyone also labeled him a project … so this isn’t completely unexpected. If he plays like this by midseason, you can say I told you so all you want. I would too.
Favor will be alright
Being a rookie I think he did well, hadsome nice defense against Garnett and Davies too. Yes he comitted fouls but he stayed long enough there to play 24 minutes. He commited fouls defending some good veterans NBA player. He just needed experience. Even Brooks commits a lot of fouls before he got it. Some fans have to be more realistic here than wishing a lot of nonesense that doesn’t make the team better .A lot thinks if a players shoots well he is the right player.
Hmmm
Well,not to impressive…..I was at the game and im not sure how i feel about celtics bench winning the game…then again we had our bench out there a good portion…Still
its too early to get negative……The dynamic of the game should change once the season starts and we will get a good look at what were working with…Favors played good defense even though he got fouled out…..Wish we could have seen a bit more of Damion out there….Harris???……good job Brook !…..solid performance by outlaw and morrow,not great but solid(note limited minutes by outlaw)….. T-Will ,basically kept us in the game ……..all in all it was a C+ performance with lots of room for improvment……****key note…aside from a not so great performance from our starters i left the game feeling very good about our bench.
by Disconnected on Oct 7, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
A good read on things
The team is seriously going to need Murphy, who will immediately become the second best player on the team once he rejoins the line up.
The scout would definitely want TWill, but Favors did just what the people who said he was RAW but with potential would expect.
Had Favors finished on 3 or 4 more shots and made his FTs, he would have had about 14 pts against Boston, and Nets would have won.
And any future scouts would probably want DJames, once he gets more PT.
Agreed. I was disappointed to see TWill bring the ball up, take it himself, miss, resulting in a transition 3 for Robinson, then he brings it up again, keeps it again, misses again. I am afraid I don’t agree with many who post here, I dont like his game at this point. Also, I was impressed with Favors. He is really going to be able to play above the rim, he just isn’t finishing at this point. If he is still struggling to finish in March I will be concerned but the criticism stated here is unwarranted.
by ispartan on Oct 8, 2010 12:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would say this about the draft.
If it was going to be done over, and Proky could have his way, Proky would prefer Cousins to Favors, for the simple reason that he wants to win during the next 5 years. Clearly Cousins is more NBA ready and would have been a better draw for other superstars – maybe even LeBron, and certainly Melo. Maybe Melo for Cousins, almost straight up.
Jerry, I know you didn't want Favors either
I remember you’re one of the few who knew that was a dumb pick.
I was just unconvinced that Favors had demonstrated he had the quickness to become a Star.
I’m still waiting, but I don’t think he is a Bust.
However, Cousins IS special, but not sure about his longevity or whether he will lose his elevation in a few years.
I didn’t like the talk that he couldn’t play some PF and work with Brook.
The only negative on Cousins is his elevation, especially when tired.
Proky has proven by his desire to get Melo at any cost, that he wants a STAR and he wants to win now.
That is my basis for saying he would want Cousins over Favors, because it would represent winning now over 7-10 years from now.
Based off of 2 NBA preseason games...
You’ve decided Favors is a 7-10 year project?
by JohnFromLongIsland on Oct 8, 2010 7:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No, but Cousins should be very good for at least 5 years, whereas Favors should be near his peak when he is about 25 and continue many years after that.
Favors may be an average NBA starter for first few years (that’s not a project).
I love it
“Don’t trade Favors, trade Brook!”
?? what??
now
“Trade Favors, he’s a bust!!!!” LOL
Had he laid that dunk into Big Baby’s jaw, the mood would have changed. The kid is going to be fine, he has to learn.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Querstion
I spent months in this forum and others wondering the same thing and never heard an answer I found satisfactory.
I also wondered why we were drafting a player in the TOP 3 who wasn’t anything special in college, was not a dominant big man in college, yet we expect him to become a dominant NBA BIG????
wow.. seriously. how many times on a single thread must you repeat yourself. we get the idea. you don’t like favors (for the 20th time!)
Section 111 @ Prudential
Favors is a bust!!!

"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Now you have ME defending Favors.
Favors did just what people should have expected, after all the RAW talk.
He probably lived up to Denver’s expectations.
I thought he tried harder than I expected. He made moves to the basket against NBA players, which is more than he did in college.
I saw some good things....
…and some bad things. As expected for a prospect like this. Some of the talk in this thread is crazy
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
and yet
NBA GMs think of all the rookies this year, he is their fourth choice to be the best NBA player in five years.
Of course, their opinion must be dismissed.
his career is over
in three games
cut him!!!!
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
He's going to be awful!
Can’t you tell?!?! Its already the third preseason game! And, AND he’s almost 20 years old! And…AND he should be NBA ready by now!
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle
the nerve of him
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The GMs also predicted
Jonny Flynn was 2nd place in their predictions for Rookie of the Year in 09-10.
Nobody even voted for Derrick Rose to win rookie of the year in 08-09, Beasley got 48%, Oden got 30%, Mayo got 11%, and the others were Love, Randolph, and Westbrook.
08-09, who would be the best player in 5 years? 30% said Oden, 23% Beasley, 23% Rose, 8% Randolph, 8% Westbrook
in 07-08 they also said that Belinelli was the international rookie most ready to contribute in the nba
in 06-07, 26% of GMs thought that Adam Morrison would win rookie of the year
Only 11% said that Roy would be the best player in 5 years, 22% said Tyrus Thomas would be
YES Network
Again, the YES Network proves to be totally ridiculous pulling coverage in the middle of the Net game for the Yankees. This is our HOME network. No message, nothing, just pull the Nets game off and put the Yankee post-game on the air. To hell with the Nets fans! Can’t we please get new coverage for the Nets!! PLEASE!!!
YES should learn from sny. whenever the mets are playing and the jets game is already over, they have to wait until the mets game ENDS before the jets postgame starts. even the last day of the year in a MEANINGLESS mets game, the jets postgame show came on about 2 hours late cause the mets went into extra innings. its called loyalty to your teams. . . but the yankees are bigger than everyone i guess so they need to make sure we cut off the nets for there show.
i complained about YES the other day
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we need to take things in perspective
If the Nets owned the YES network and they were airing a preseason Yankee game while the Nets were playing a PLAYOFF game in another network, would you not cut the preseason game to talk about the Nets?
However, it is more annoying that YES cuts our last few games during the regular season to air Yankee preseason games.
LOL @ being a bust after three games
The kneejerk reactions are hilarious.
T-Will had too many TO’s tonight.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
"Hello, Ness fans. I invest in major project over summer and produced excellent talent accelerator. Will produce clone of Favors with skills of hey-day Garnett. The basketball clubs will enjoy them very much. Our goal remains championship in five years."

Murph can't come back soon enough
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
come back?
did he leave? You watching robocop again?
The sad part is ...
Favors was the player most Nets fans wanted, so you can’t even kill Rod Thorn, most of you guys had tunnel vision for a PF, it had to be a PF so it had to be Derrick Favors!
Maybe if the fans made it clear we DID NOT want to reach for a project we could have avoided this disaster, but this is the guy most Nets fans wanted and now we got him.
"It was reported on here that we were taking him"
No doubt, Randy, Nets Daily was pimping this guy bigtime!
a disaster?
it’s been three preseason games. He was not expected or projected to hit the ground running. Everyone knew that it would take time for him to adjust. What you worry about is his game to game improvement as a player and adjusting to the speed and physicality of the NBA, and after that, it’s about being consistent from night to night
The Miami Heat are going to beat the stuffing out of this conference, I don’t understand your impatience or your kneejerk reactions to a rookie getting his feet wet. We have plenty of time to develop this kid.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I am pretty sure that you are kidding about the Nets drafted Favors because they thought that was what the fans wanted, right? I stiill think it was the correct pick,
by ispartan on Oct 8, 2010 12:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mods...Can we ban someone from a thread
for repeating the SAME EXACT Post for like 20 times?
Dont Get Trigger Happy Guys
Favors is still under review.And he plays good defense….really ,he does, i dnt knw how it can be portrayed on tv but when u see him play live its another story…excellent on defense…and thats where it starts for many superstars….lets just give it some more time,not too much but give him time.
He stayed very poised on defense
when garnett tried to take him 1 on 1 in an iso situation. Both times resulted in Garnett missing badly. This is perhaps the most important thing that Favors can show you at this point, that in time he can defend against the elite PFs in this league. that is why we brought him in, not for dunks, jumpshots or offense, for DEFENSE!
ouch
what a mean 16 and 7. we should have never traded him!!!
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
We didn't just trade him, We gave him away with additional $3 million cash.
That kind of hurt, getting ripped off. oh well, Yi didn’t fit in the team. He’s not a likable guy.
Pocket change
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ROFL
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I mean about being unlikable.
He gets a serious injury and fans actually cheer.
no one cheered about him being injured
most of us were annoyed because he’d always get hurt when he was building some steam and then he’d come back and play like crap
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
you're agreeing or disagreeing?
I said people don’t like him.
Some don't
and some just don’t like the fact that he’s just not that good. Not everyone here hates Yi like you’re trying to imply.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I was always one of the Yi supporters but he just doesn't have "It"
I have seem him put those pretty numbers before… fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
Well, obviously.
When you have to pay the Wizards to take him from us. Not saying our GM is dumb…
welcome to the land of the fan
where over reaction is the norm
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It's unbelieveable.
Next game Brook will have an off game and you’ll actually see posts saying TRADE HIM!
Or Favors has a solid game and all of the sudden he’s gonna be KG… Nets fans are extremist.. lol
I was pretty close to the action at the game and I gotta say, favors positioning was pretty good on defense. He definitely wasn’t completely lost. There were a couple phantom calls on him. On the offensive end, he just lacked the handle. It was clear he’s still very raw. But for those of you who haven’t been to a game yet, there are just some things he’s doing with his athleticism that is kinda crazy. He will just pull a move out of nowhere. Like that dunk, he bricked, two steps and bam. Kinda came out of nowhere. As long as he can figure out how to match his body w/ the game, he’ll be great.
Section 111 @ Prudential
that move was sick
he would have killed Davis if he had converted.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 7, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Cousins back down to earth
11pts 3 rebounds in 3rd Q. Griffin is impressive, 18pts 13 rebs. 7 of 7 shooting.
He seems a little tougher
But I here you, Petro seems a little soft, but its about anticipation and movement of the feet like Jason Collins.
hey guys if we're forgetting..
Brook Lopez wasn’t all that good during his first preseason either
he was fouling a lot….and not shooting a high percentage…
It takes time for things to click…especially for a 19 year old
a positive for me was that i didn’t see him make any glaring mistakes…
his shots were decent takes…
his 2 offensive fouls that he got for….some reason..i really didn’t see a foul…but those things will get better
Lopez was 10th pick
No one expected too much from Brook.
Well...
Yeah, the scouts said Lopez was too slow. He was the most ready Center in the draft. lucky for the Nets he dropped to 10.
Lopez is slow
and he is going to be an all star this season
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 8, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed...
And next year Favors will average a double double (or at least >9/9). Book it! Be patient everyone…
Lopez was also way more polished than Favors coming out of college
That’s why the Nets want to trade Favors because they don’t want to wait. It seems the fans don’t want to wait after last year either. I think if we are willing to wait a year with Favors we’ll probally be in the lottery again, but we’ll be better off in the long run.
Just keep adding pieces and see how the labor agreement turns out. In 2012 we make our run.
Thank the Bucks.
But they had Bogut. This is the same reason we didn’t draft Cousins. Trying too hard not overlap talent.
if brook was taken before the 10th pick..
nets would have drafted bayless, not joe
Read this about Durant
The Heat are in Kansas City to play the Thunder in a preseason game on Friday and LeBron James was scheduled to have a party at The Midland, a theater in downtown Kansas City, on Thursday night.
Durant received an invitation, but declined the offer.
“I don’t go out to parties the day before a game,” Durant said. “I really don’t go out too much during the season.”
yesh he's what you would call a basketball geek
good thing though…he wants to be prepared..i wish more people were like him..
Durant, who dominated in international competition, wants to win
while Lebron wants to ride coattails. I’d party too if I knew that I wouldn’t have to bust my tail the next day to get a win.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 8, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Looking at the Cavs rosters
Lebron really screwed that team over. All their forums are dead. No one posts, like NBA basketball died there.
LOL @ them
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 8, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
My 2 cents
Overall. I’m disappointed that the Nets lost, but the demeanor of the team is much better than last year.
Section 2 @ the Rock
I really like how Farmar tied the game.
When I was ready to turn the game off. Didn’t expect that at all.
Watching this game again
Favors could have easily had more than 3 pts, he just needs to convert because he had some good looks and he missed 3 FT’s. The block was clean too.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiillll on Favors
He is a work in progress. Come back after the all-star break.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Oct 8, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions
Shaq on Brook:
“Reminds me of … I’m going to go with Tim Duncan,” O’Neal said. “Classy guy. You’ll never hear about him getting in trouble. Great moves, great composure, and you’re really not going to faze him. A couple guys will probably try to rough him up, but that’s not going to faze him. Good player. Good player.”
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Oct 8, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
Brook is the man
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 8, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I see big things for Brook this year
Like 23/12 big.
by No Sleep Till Brooklyn on Oct 8, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he'll have trouble getting to double digit rebounds
He can score, but I dunno if he can rebound consistently
Dude, that sounds pretty vengeful and petty.
You hate how well they treated him? What is he, a criminal? So he wasn’t a very good player, he isn’t entitled to a happy birthday? C’mon man…. These are people too.
All Star voting stuff is marketing… nothing to do with Lee.
this is weird. why does the team with the lowest attendance have, by far, the most posts on the blog for the game threads, etc. . ???
Because you have to love basketball
to be a Nets fan. So anybody that’s a Nets fan probably loves the game itself more than your average Celtics fan.
I find most fans love winning more than they love the game itself. They don’t really want to talk about it so much as they want to wear the flipping hats and jerseys and look hip.
George Carlin said something about these types of people that I couldn’t possible print here.
Few fans, but passionate ones.
The Expos had some really great fans too…. But each one only had 1 butt to put in a seat.
And yeah, tickets are expensive and lots of us live far away (I am in albany).
My thoughts on this game...
First of all let’s keep in mind that this is pre-season, so let’s keep our cool and realize that players are still trying to find their rhythm.
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Brook Lopez- Beast offensively, the only player that can probably stop him one on one is Howard. Definitely a future allstar. He must improve defensively and his rebounding and become more of a leader. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if he ends up winning a couple of championships once his career is over. Needs to keep working hard and hit the gym!
Derrick Favors- Very very raw. Has unlimited potential on both sides of the court and I hope he puts it together. He’s the youngest player in the entire league and needs more time on the court to learn the kinks of the game. Definitely not ready to be a starter yet. I find it silly that people want to get rid him already. Let’s give him time and he will learn. People are expecting too much out of him right now. Needs to forget about this game and learn from it.
Devin Harris- Looks rusty, I liked Farmar better. Looked solid defensively and didn’t force the issue. His shot is still awful but he will be better this year. Didn’t knock down his FTs.
Terrence Williams- Very gifted player. Has a playmaker’s mentality but it’s not there yet. Tonight he rushed most of his shots and didn’t attack the rim enough for my liking. He tries too hard to make spectacular passes but sometimes you need a simple one. Must learn and become more focused. Definitely a player to keep an eye on.
Travis Outlaw- AWFUL defensively. He does not take advantage of his size and athleticism. Never once attacked the rim and settled for shots. I am regretting giving him the 35 million $ more and more.
Anthony morrow- Awful defensively, let Ray penetrate way too easily. I hate to say it but he is one dimensional. he shot the ball ok today but shooting is the only thing I have seen out of him so far. Definitely not a starter IMO.
Humphries- always brings heart and displays an enormous motor. excellent bench player. Didn’t force the issue today(thank god) rebounded and was solid defensively.
Farmar- Very poised and cool. Ran the team better than I expected. Kept up with his man defensively and always seemed under control. Good shooter and distributor.
Petro- Looked subpar today. Not aggressive enough IMO. rebounded and played just OK. I hope to see more from him. Spending 10 mill when we have Zoubek might not have been such a bright idea.
Graham- Very good size and did a solid job on Pierce. Very limited offensively but can definately dunk the ball.
Damion James- I really don’t understand why Avery played him very little. Looked very feisty defensively and aggressive on offense. I like him more than Outlaw already.
Uzoh- Didn’t see him out there.
All of our players need a lot of work in all areas IMO. This is barely pre-season but at least we get to see where some players are as of today. There were a lot of things that I liked and others not so much.
Final note- Damion James needs to get more PT and Favors needs time. We all knew he was a project but for some reason people seem to be freaking out now.
LET’S GO NETS!
I'm watching this game again also D-James needs to start better defender more activity
Fits the starters better especially if Murphy is starting.
Just finished watching tonights game for the second time
Not bad at all.
THE LAST (2) FOULS CALLED ON FAVORS WERE COMPLETE BS, GARBAGE CALLS!
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1057453
look what people have to say
“Derrick Favors has BUST written all over him. He couldn’t even lead his collage team in rebounding. He’s a real softy. More than likely the next Michael Olowokandi… mark my words!”
He's Rookie
Cut the kid some slack here. We know this kid(literally) isn’t polished yet. He’s project and it will take time
Section 2 @ the Rock
by R-D on Oct 8, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
“I’m predicting Favors to bust – classic athletic big man who can’t play. Usually doesn’t work out.”
“I keep hearing people say how great his body is. How his measurements are same as Dwight before he was drafted. I just don’t see it. When he is out there on the court his body looks very average. He doesn’t seem to be a jump out the gym guy. He doesn’t seem to have any super advanced skills. I think the chances he will be viewed as a bust are fairly high.”
by strange-brew on Oct 8, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
with nuggets scout in attendance
and favors playing horrible… and personally i hate to say it bc ive doubted t-will all along but a guy who looks like he really could be an all star… maybe the nuggets scout will come back and say “hey, forget favors we need to get t-will in this deal” although im startin to love t-will… i think thatd be great if that did happen
"cdr4prez"???
What’s with that handle?
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 8, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
umm yea
That’s what it says.. is there somethin that neeeds to be explained further pal?
by cdr4prez on Oct 8, 2010 11:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Uhm, yeah
Are you a CDR fan or is that sarcasm? Just wondering, pal.
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 8, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Pre-season...
It’s pre-season folks, nobody should be jumping off of any bridges, and Favors is 19 years old, just 19 years old. We have a whole new team too. We kept up with the Celtics, one of the top 5 teams in the league. I enjoyed watching Brook try and play SHAQ, the man is still a load, at, what 38 years of age? At least the game was on TV! GO NETS!
Paul from Delray Beach
Hype
Favors was so overmatched.
Observation: Celtics played like a team, even the 2nd and 3rd units. Nets played like individuals. Celtics ran plays and when they broke down, they went to plan b. Nets ran few plays. Look like a one on one team. Yes, its early and they don’t know each other, but..
We have much better shooters. But we are still overmatched at key positions.
Lopez is ready for the big stage.
Melo ain’s comin here if they saw what I saw from Favors.
Yea they played as if...
It was only their third time playing together as a team! Give it time for the chemistry to build and the nerves to settle. Favors is a project. We know that. But everybody wants him to be a star NOW. We’ve been jaded by Yi and SWat and the Kwames and Tyruses of the league and now every big man ever drafted will be labeled a BUST before they play a single game. GIVE FAVORS TIME.
I think Outlaw is gonna come around, too. He just got a contract that has been very publicly criticized. He’s probably very nervous about justifying it. Let him work out the nerves and gel with a whole new organization.
The Nets will be just fine. The sky is not falling, all you chicken littles need to relax.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Oct 8, 2010 7:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nobody's asking Favors to be a star
Just not… d-league material. Which was is what he’s been playing like for the last 2 games. Hasheem Thabeet-ish
Hasheem Thabeet-ish
Thabeet is 23 years old and was abused in college by much smaller players. They really aren’t similar in any way other than the fact Favors is struggling in some of the same ways.
NY/NJ fans have no mercy.
Favors and his supporters need the harden Go Nets up!
No logic or intelligence, either.
I mean, you can say Favors has sucked so far (he has) but to say that his long term potential has to be questioned at this juncture is a gross overreaction.
And that’s putting it mildly.
by TWilliAM on Oct 8, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
True dat.
1) Sports Fanatics nutty – Check
2) Favors bad game – Check
favors
For the people knocking Favors his a 19 year old kid matched up against several future NBA HOFers. Also Boston is probably the most physical and experienced squad in d NBA
by Blkswizz on Oct 8, 2010 7:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Still like what i see from favors…have patience fellas hes a rookie…cousins and wes are more ready now….but favors is rele going to help us out….especially on the boards and defense ( come naturally to him). I still think hes going to do very well
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Hmmm...some posters need to keep off the Meth...
It’s like every play every move is make or break.
I liked what I saw last night. The whole team played hard and played aggressively, attacking and not giving up.
This is the biggest thing you can ask for after last year.
Defense was problematic, no doubt. But I think Defense takes the longest to establish and you can’t expect a team with 12 new players to do any better then they did last night. The potential is there, and I trust Avery will keep pushing them on this end of the floor.
I liked the attack offense, how many players were involved. Very refreshing. Needs time to gel but I think that Offense is gonna take care of itself.
Brook looked like the only person that can stop him is himself. Crafty moves against the veteran Shaq scoring on him pretty much at will and gettin him into foul trouble. Needs to get better defensively no doubt, and stronger on the boards, but that’ll come with time and practice and regained strength from the mono thing. I hope.
If you were to ask me the one thing I want to see from Favors in this game, I would tell you I want to see something on the defensive end. And, I saw it. It was subtle, but KG was isolated on Favors atleast twice, and each time couldn’t get a respectable shot off. That is the most important thing to take from this game about Favors. Offense and staying on the floor will come, he will get better, he is young, but he showed a natural ability to defend. That’s what he’s here for – to defend the best PFs in the league, and to help Lopez out defensively.
I also want to remind people that we were playing against the best defensive team in the league, who have a defensive system in place for four years now (nothing new for them) manned by some HOFers like KG and SHAQ.
We did pretty well, we didn’t give up, we fought till the end and showed some flashes.
That being said, this team has alot of work to do on the Defensive end.
Morrow and Outlaw were complete liabilites on defense tonight. We cannot start Morrow/Outlaw/Murphy. We will be ripped apart on the defensive end. Unless these players start showing some passion and energy on that end.
by adronaline on Oct 8, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
STOP MAKING SENSE!
Can’t rec from a mobile, but I’m thinking of faking sick and going home from work, just so I could rec this.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Oct 8, 2010 9:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Wow.. you calling out the meth?
Pretty brave of you to defend Favors after a poor performance. We know he’s a rookie, but bad is bad. Keep’n it real.
LOL
Coming from the guy still defending Yi…
by JohnFromLongIsland on Oct 8, 2010 11:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You defend Yi too?
There was a huge difference in Yi had a terrible game and Yi caused our entire team to be worst in the League.
I will agree to Favors having a bad game.
But I wouldn’t go so far to assume Favors is the root of Nets failure. That’s where I stand.
Thanks Adronaline.
Rec’d
Do people actually believe that Favors is going to start off putting up 20pts and 10rbs?
Some People on this board are truly delusional.
If those same people took a step back and looked at the make up of this team, they would realize what they are typing is stupid.
With lopez as the main post threat do you really think Favors is going to have big offensive numbers?
Favors is going to be Lopez’s defensive side kick. Expect Favors to avg. close to 15pts and 8 rbs and play some solid defense, PEOPLE!!!!
Lower your expectations and you will feel better and would help us STOP wasting our time reading your ridiculous comments.
I'm glad some one else saw that Favors D
Garnett couldn’t get a clean shot off. Shaq backed down Lopez on one play like Lopez was made of silk curtains – understandable because he’s shaq – but then a few plays later Garnett tried the same thing on Favors and he stood his ground, budged a little, put his arms up, caused a miss, and grabbed the ball. Had that been Sean Williams, an unfair comparison all to many posters are making, he would have jumped up for the block, drawn the foul, and we would have potentially given up two points.
Had he finished that dunk on Davis we would all be talking a little but more in his favor.
Just wait till he's going up against the likes of Bargani and Ed Davis, etc...
He’ll make those teams look a lot less powerful. His first NBA action he struggled, then he came back the next game against much tougher competition in the post – and while his stats don’t show it all – he played a better game. He will only continue to improve.
Yeah, the difference from summer league to this game was huge
on the defensive end. But in a really sublte way.
Favors will be fine, he had some pretty good looking D out there, but guys like shaq and KG are hard to stop, specially your third game in.
Vets always know how to expose rookies, after the game Avery Johnson had said KG pulled an “old man” move and sealed him out well, forcing him to commit errant fouls. people need to stop judging so microscopic, specially a rookie, maybe Travis Outlaw he has to earn his contract
So this is the Favors bash thread?
Actually, the more I watch him play, the less I would trade him for Melo, and that includes last night.
Some of you are quite short sighted, and apparently don’t remember that this kid is only 19 years old. He’s explosive, active, and is going to drop a lot of jaws this year, regardless of what team he plays on.
More and more, I wouldn’t trade him. Denver missed their shot.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 9:15 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Melo >>>> Favors
You can do better at making a point to be patient with Favors than comparing him to Melo.
I mean, come on.
Trade topic is considered comparison.
You mentioned both names. But I failed at reading.
I wouldn't compare the two
Melo is light years beyond Favors, and I doubt he ever becomes close to what Melo is. But there is a ton of ability in this kid, and he could end up being an Amar’e. Nothing I’ve seen so far tells me that’s a long shot.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Trade rumors hurts team chemistry.
Favors is ok, had a bad game. Fouling out didn’t help him. Cousins fouled out too, but he put up slightly better stats and didn’t have trade rumor hanging over his head.
Cousins is also NBA ready
Favors is going to need a few years.
In the end, he’ll be much better than Demarcus “Big Baby 2” Cousins.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
I would love to agree with you. But
No proof Favors will be better than Cousins in the end. I was only under the impression that Cousins was more like a Center and Favors a PF and Nets drafted for need at PF.
What are you expecting from Favors?
Do you think he is going to be 20pt 10rb guy with Lopez at Center?
You need to lower your expectations, buddy.
Favors is a perfect complement to Lopez. He plays defense unlike Cousins.
Lower expectations of #3 pick overall.
Got it boss!
That near Favors highlight poster dunk
Was incredibly impressive. His move was so quick and he got up SO high. He hit the other side of the rim because he was absolutely way too high.
The distance between him and big baby’s hand was like 2 feet.
You never saw anything like that from Sean Williams, who some people are comparing him to. You did see that from people like… Amar’e and Howard.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
It's been said.
But I’ll say it again. RELAX, kids!
It was our 2nd real preseason game and virtually the whole machine is new, in every possible way. As for DFavors, if you didn’t see the potential in the kid last night to be very very good eventually (and even a contributor this year), you don’t know your hoops.
Considering what went down last year and how new and different and young we are this year, you all should be jumping for joy that already, we have the beginnings of the first step: to be competitive.
So, sit back, relax, let Avery and the staff work and the kids find their identity, and renjoy the process.
by Jron on Oct 8, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
And btw
I’m not counting Maccabi Haffa as a preseason game. They aren’t an NBA team and shouldn’t be a measuring stick.
Right now we are 1 – 1, no better than last year (yet). Good chance to go 2 – 1 on Saturday.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Al Ian
I don’t miss Frank… really. He didn’t die, he’s working for the Celtics. You really think Frank would have turned things around? I mean what has the guy done w/o Jason Kidd running the team?
Sensitive
Why are we so sensitive. Favors is not ready. Avery has been talking about starting him. Anyone with eyes can see that is ridiculous. He may turn into a good pro, but he is far from that. I am worried because the Nuggets may devalue him and we may lose Melo to someone else. I am also worried that Avery has BSed a bit too much and hyped him to trade him. Who is going to trust the Nets now? Look, when the coach said he might start him, our hopes get raised. Then we see how raw he is and we think, either the coach is nuts, or the coach is building him up to trade him, or the kid can’t handle the pressure and folds. He has a long way to go.
I think they will be alright and he will be alright, but the idea of 40 wins and Favors starting is just overdoing it folks! With Murphy they will be a better team.
What haven't you liked about him?
I’ve liked everything I’ve seen so far. He’s raw, but he’s an athletic freak. Tons of potential.
I’m sure the Nuggets scouts know that too.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Deleted some comments in this post and sent out a few warnings.
Just discuss the topic (the game, Favors, etc.) without taking shots at those who disagree with you or trying to tell people how they should react themselves. It’s fine to disagree, but do it respectfully.
Thanks.
NetsDaily.com
I would give up Favors for Melo
without blinking or thinking twice about it.
Our new "shooters"
Let’s see. Our new “shooters” have shot in the two preseason games against NBA opponents:
Outlaw: 5-15 (.333 FG%)
Morrow: 5-16 (.313 FG%)
I’m sure they will both improve – especially Morrow – but they both take a lot of ill-advised, high difficulty shots.
I have said repeatedly that Outlaw is NOT a “shooter”. His FG% is relatively low, as is his TS%. Haven’t seen anything so far to change my mind.
I thought Outlaw
Shot the ball well, but his defense was like he gave no effort.
he looked like he was in slow motion on a turn-around mid range jumper...
and that was after he failed to take it to the hole once the defense opened up. he looks like a purely mid-range talent… which is nice to have. but what he showed me last night was that
A) he’s not ready to be this team’s go-to scorer…
B) he’s NOT a shut-down defender…
and C) i think we overpaid for him.
they rush there shots...
PRESEASON
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
They'll get better
No doubt about that.
I don’t know why they aren’t spreading the floor more with Lopez. Have Morrow dump the ball to Lopez, if they double, he kicks back out to Morrow for the 3. If they don’t Lopez is going to get a good shot at scoring.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
I was wondering the same thing
We tossed it inside to Brook, but it never popped back out the the 3-pt line for the dagger. No one missed the dagger, it just never popped out. Wasn’t that the new thing that all these shooters were supposed bring?
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 8, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
To be fair to Brook
Avery doesn’t want him to pass out. He wants him to take his man and score, which he’s now done the past 2 games in a row awesomely.
I think Avery is trying to develop Brook into a dominant big man who always wants his shot, and then let the pass out come once he gets that first part down at an All Star level.
Love what Avery is doing. He made Brook run and up & down just because he passed out during practice haha
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Some of these comments embarrass me
another note. TWill, looks like he wants to be the best player he can b. Just a little to flash. Brook knows he is the man on this team. And Avery was preseason avert noway he stays this calm through out the season. It all starts with mentality and I think twill and brook have the right mentality. Hope the sheep follow
Twill is starting material
I think he’ll see a lot of GS in his stats this year.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
I'm thinking that if
Murphy is starting then you have to start TWill at SG just to balance out defensively a little more. Morrow with Outlaw and Murphy would be catastrophic, or at least that’s my impression from last nights game. Still hope both Outlaw and Morrow can show more.
I was totally bummed out on how the Nets looked last night...
They looked like a very young team that had only played a few weeks together.
In fact one of those young players looked like he had never played in a regular season NBA game before.
And they couldn’t even beat a poor team like the Celtics.
Very disappointing indeed…
by M I K E on Oct 8, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Once the team comes back from overseas...
They will look more like a team… Right now they are getting to know each other and learning how to play together. Last night you saw a lot of one on one play. A player’s like Outlaw, Morrow and Favors will look much better when the play making of the team improves…
And when they learn
Avery’s system better. It doesn’t happen overnight, you know?
I caught the sarcasm

Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
by eLonepb on Oct 8, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As funny as this post is. It shows you how silly most posters are
youbwere being sarcastic and may have has the best and most intellectual post the whole day.
i think the biggest storyline is
who will be running the team by the all-star break- farmar or harris?
imagine something extremely witty here
and if harris losers his starting spot
will he become totally disgruntled. i’m hoping that farmar pushes harris to play better. but sometimes, competittion makes some players force things and shut down. we’ll see
imagine something extremely witty here
you're probably right
then the questions become- what do we get for him? and are we ok going w/ a farmar/uzoh combo
imagine something extremely witty here
I don't think Farmar is quick enough for some of the faster PG's in the NBA...
and Uzoh is a rookie… I doubt the Nets will trade Harris just to trade him.
I think people are overreacting a bit much...
Yes, we lost the game… but it’s not like we lost by a lot. I actually enjoyed watching this game more than the previous two. We all know that Favors is very raw and will take some time for him to get adjusted to the NBA when we drafted him. It’s only the 3rd preseason game, I don’t think we should give up on him based on just that… at least wait until the end of the season.
I still remember how a lot of Nets fans were calling T.Williams a bust last year early in the season, and how everyone wanted to trade him. But most of us here now thinks T.Williams is one of the better players on the roster, and can be a very good player if he continues to improve. All I am saying is give our rookie a chance before you make any judgement.
Loved watching him go against KG
To actually call it a measuring stick is silly. This is an all-time NBA great going against a 19 year old kid.
But I loved what I saw anyway.
Guarantee Denver does too.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
It's not just fans. Media is going nuts also.
Quote: The Nuggets sent a scout to watch Derrick Favors play in the pre-season Thursday night.
The Nets remain determined to try to complete a trade for Carmelo Anthony and Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated reports that the team is confident it has the best package to offer for Denver’s superstar.
Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports (via Twitter)
So Carmelo will be starting for us on Saturday?
Great…I knew we would finally make this trade. Lets celebrate… Stoli’s anyone?
Could happen.
But I thought deal was done a week ago :P
Did you notice how quickly Avery pulled T-Will...
when T-Will started to get out of control trying to match his buddy Nate Robinson’s one on one style of play?.
I have a feeling, and not because of the Denver scout
that nobody is offering up anything significant for Melo (besides possibly kaman), and that at some point Denver will be desperate and come back to us. Makes me worry about Favors.
offering up Favors...
Now I know how Abraham must have felt offering up Isaac.
It’s all new…owner, arena…In a way Derrick is the Net’s first born son being he was our first draft pick of this new Net’s era.
It really seems sad in a way that we would sacrifice him for the glory of the moment instead of taking the time and the patience to develop him to his fullest potential.
by aunt-B on Oct 8, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Except
I’m pretty convinced that Melo doesn’t want to come here…
by adronaline on Oct 8, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
seriously...
You Favors haters are idiots and D*** riders…im not even reading these comments anymore. When he had a good game ur own hisD*** when he adjusts and learns the game against real NBA talent u hate u fans SUCK! He’s the youngest kid in the NBA a rookie, 1 year college experience. What do u want an insant superstar? theres only one: John Wall. You want muslces ? you want a 6 pack? it takes times and work to get that…cant expect 20 and 10 in 3 games wht the hell is wrong with u sucky A$$fans??
by JerzeyBlaze on Oct 8, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
+1 I agree... We should trade Favors now...
Maybe we can get a second round pick before his value drops any further..
i agree, its too early to critisize him
by netsforever91 on Oct 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
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by calling all toasters on Oct 8, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I criticize Favors because I expect a lot from him even at 19 as a lot of fans would of a #3 pick...
I bet its because of the Demarcus Cousins vs. Derrick Favors arguments before that have people defending Favors even if he played like crap…

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