The Empire Strikes Back!
by Net Income on Oct 26, 2010 7:50 AM EDT
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Last July, you may recall, the Nets angered Jimmy Dolan by papering over the side of a building opposite the Garden with their 1,200 square foot "Blueprint for Greatness" poster. Now, reports the Brooklyn Trolley Blogger, Dolan has struck back!
On the side of a wall inside the footprint of the Atlantic Yards, the Knicks have put up a much smaller wall poster, featuring Amare Stoudemire in front of the Manhattan ...not Brooklyn... Bridge. It reads, "Brooklyn Represent - You, Us, We, Now". (We think "Huh?" might be the next word in the progression, but that's just us.)
Psst Jimmy. You're a bit early. The Nets don't play in Brooklyn til 2012. They open in NEWARK Wednesday night. Mikhail Prokhorov, through a spokesman had "no comment on that." Brett Yormark, however, could not resist: "I’m glad to see they know where Brooklyn is. Clearly, they know what’s coming."
Meanwhile, the Knicks intend to take Timofey Mozgov, their rookie Russian center, on a tour of Brighton Beach, Brooklyn's Russian enclave.
- Knicks Invade Nets' Turf This Time - Brooklyn Trolley Blogger
- Knicks/Nets Billboard Rivalry Continues to Rage - SLAM
- Knicks put up Amar’e billboard right across from Nets Brooklyn construction - Kurt Helin - NBC Sports
- Knick Billboard is a sign of retaliation - Stefan Bondy with Frank Isola - New York Daily News
- Nets like Knicks' billboard - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- Nets, Knicks getting into turf war in Brooklyn - Colin Stephenson - Nets Blast
- NY Knicks Net Billboard In Brooklyn - Rap Radar
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hahahahaha shots fired
in the immortal words of Afeni Shakur’s baby boy “I got my money right so it’s time for war.”
Never approved of the Blueprint but now it’s time to strike back. hahahaa
at least amare isn’t standing next to Nas
by killa kadafi191 on Oct 26, 2010 8:02 AM EDT reply actions
We all knew something like this was coming, right?
Hardly surprising.
I have to say though, it’s a fair enough shot lol. Kudos for firing back, I think.
Oh, and I think – though I could be wrong – the ‘now’ part of the poster refers to the fact that Brooklyn basketball fans can support the Knicks in New York NOW rather than the Nets in New York in two years.
That’s probably the justification, anyway.
Popeye Jones - scaring the children of New Jersey since 2010.
'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312
Lame is firing the first shot, then quietly taking down the mural within 4 weeks.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
Well the Blueprint for greatness was catchy but..
You, Us, We, Now?? and come on they just imitated the Nets’ mistake.. :)
I React
I Criticize
I Idolize
by silenthero07 on Oct 26, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Neanderthal Etiquette 101: "boys will be boys"
"Men in public life called each other, not just the traditional ‘liar,’ ‘poltroon,’ ‘coward,’ and ‘puppy,’ but also ‘fornicator,’ ‘madman,’ and ‘bastard;’ they accused each other of incest, treason, and consorting with the devil." -Gentlemen’s Blood: A History of Dueling
"Thy soul shall find itself alone 'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone--"
Enough room for Melo to the right of Amare?
by ispartan on Oct 26, 2010 8:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Quick questin
Stubhub….. Tickets are soo cheap for 2/m what’s up with that? It can’t be right. Tickets for less than a dollar
It's the Nets
Shouldn’t be that surprising. There’s no star to come see yet.
Go look at prices for the Heat game.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
I'm very disappointed that Nets can't even sell out the Heat game.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
It's all about the cost
The Yankees couldn’t sell out their playoff games either (plenty tix available day of game in the expensive sections).
When you put tickets at a price point unaffordable to the general public, that is the result. While I understand the flux in prices depending on opponent, to charge someone $380 to sit in the last row of the lower level center sections is absolutely absurd.
If they had kept ticket prices at the normal rate, or even slightly inflated, it would be sold out for sure.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
There are tons of tickets...
available on Stubhub for below face value. I purchased 2 tickets for Friday’s Sacramento game section 8 (center court) row 10 for $39 each. Face value on these tickets are $115 per ticket. I got lucky because i just checked and comprable seats are now starting at around $75. With the current state of the Nets, why anyone would buy direct through ticket master is beyond me. I’m sure the Nets themselves are moving tickets at discounted rates to brokers and possibly even direct on Stubhub.
yeah
there’s a ton of tickets on stubhub. Sunday is going to be awesome folks
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh?
The Nets/Heat game will 100000% be sold out. Stubhub tickets are tickets that are already sold.
Same goes for opening night.
Section 129 2010-2011 @ the ROCK
It's not sold out
There are plenty of tickets available on all levels. It’s because they are way overpriced.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
dude
No one is selling tickets in this area.
If the Yankees, Mets, Giants, and Jets have trouble selling out you know that the Nets would
I think that there’ll be a packed house on sunday though. Nets haven’t marketed this game enough IMO some folks were shocked that the heat were coming to town so soon when i started seeing who would like to get drunk with accompany me to the game
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
it's on a sunday afternoon
it’s pretty damn hard to sell-out anything when there’s a football game at the meadowlands.
Jets game is a 4pm if I'm not mistaken
and the G-Men are off.
Nets fans, if you can make it this sunday, go for it. Tix on stub hub arent that bad
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Jets game is at 1. I will be there. My tickets will be at the Nets game though.
by ispartan on Oct 26, 2010 4:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I love it, this is great
All it does is continue to reinforce that we’re worrying all of them, and adds fuel to the rivalry.
I swear, if we were to land Carmelo Anthony, you would see so many New Yorkers switch to Nets fans instantly.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Empires... Billboards...
Who cares??? THE SEASON STARTS IN 11 HOURS!!!!! It’s been a looooong summer….
by JohnFromLongIsland on Oct 26, 2010 8:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nuff said
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
by eLonepb on Oct 26, 2010 8:52 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
um
That picture is from the 2006-2007 or 2007-2008 season. That is Balkman on the right, who was traded after 2008.
I would say this picture is maybe one of the biggest fails I have ever seen. Considering you chose a pic with 3 guys who are not on the team.
I am a fan of both the mets and knicks... so just kill me now.
"Hear no Evil, See no Evil, Speak no Evil"
"Thy soul shall find itself alone 'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone--"
Wow!
Love it. They should be concerned. But the difference between the two ads is telling. Ours banked on the celebrity of our owners which tells me we do not have a marketable star. We also saw how poorly that approached work for free agency. Theirs banks on the stardom of their player, the guy on the court putting in baskets. We should be worried because they have legitimate star power that will attract other stars. Our blueprint turnout to be a fuzzy map and their You Us We Now is a little short on the now. It should read later.
It's the reason we are pursuing Melo so hard
He would give you every opportunity to plaster billboards of his face everywhere over Manhattan and New Jersey.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
after this I might change might stance. I still think he will be a Knick but nothing would be sweeter than seeing Melo, The Russian and Jay-Z all together and below it the caption says
Brooklyn WE DID IT
RIP Christopher Wallace
by killa kadafi191 on Oct 26, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
It's a shame that Carmelo still lurks like a dark cloud over this team...
Players like Harris, Favors, Murphy etc. shouldn’t be left hanging out to dry like this.
Fans are also left wondering if the players they are rooting for are going to be with the team 2 months from now.
I understand the reasoning behind acquiring Anthony, but the way this is being played out is not good for the team or it’s fans…This loser attitude still remains with the team when you let everyone know that you are not happy with your team.
That being said, Lets Go Nets…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
I think the dark cloud resides only over the fans
We take this in a lot deeper than the players do. They are professionals and this happens all the time all over every single sport in the world.
Part of the game. In the end, they are making millions and millions of dollars.
Not a bad deal.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Players come and go...
Fans are more important then players. We just use the players, even though everybody thinks it’s the other way around…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
Fans come and stay
When you have players that attract them, and produce winning teams year in and out.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
by eLonepb on Oct 26, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Winning teams usually have attractive players...
Goes hand in hand. If the Nets start winning this season, players like Lopez, Harris, Outlaw, T-Will etc. will start looking very attractive.
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
Lopez is only 22...
If he learns to pass and rebound a bit better, “you never know”…
Like Dennis Scott said the other day, if T-Will’s basketball IQ ever matches his physical IQ, watch out…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
Until this whole Carmelo thing is settled
there will be a cloud of unrest over this team.
"Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone"
That'd be awesome
I’d pay $380 for a ticket to see the Nets play the Heat if we had Melo.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
yea would be sweet have to
admit. After seeing this I want to see this happen just to piss the Knicks off.
by killa kadafi191 on Oct 26, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
oman you are
100 percent correct my good man
by killa kadafi191 on Oct 26, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
well its not like the Nets have attempted to market who they have now
Brook Lopez is going to be an all star. Devin Harris was an all star. yet, you had Brett “D” Yormark trying to sell reversable jerseys that marketed the players on OTHER TEAMS.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon Net Income
You mean Wednesday night, don’t you? Get with the program, the regular season is finally here!
This just confirms that the Knicks are legitimately threatened by the Nets, Brooklyn... and Micky Prox
Nickname trademarked.
Small scale
If you guys think bigger. Barclays will take away a lot of big events from the garden. The rich and famous would love to sit in there, for a fight or concert. We just need more rich n famous in Brooklyn : / hope Ratner can at least fix that. You also Magic.
by Zartan on Oct 26, 2010 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL...Haven't you heard?
The Nets are renaming Newark to Brooklyn, on game days…
The Nets are more worried about everything else it seems, then worrying about putting a winning team on the court. Winning will draw fans…If Carmelo comes here and we still lose, fans won’t be knocking down the doors for tickets…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
This idea that we are going to rule NYC in 2 years is nonsense...
It will take time for the Nets to be able to compete with the Knicks for co-ownership of this town.
This idea that we will knock the Knicks off their perch is funny, but ultimately ridiculous.
The Nets can only hope in their wildest dreams that they can become the Mets/Jets to the Knicks Yankees/Giants… I think they can but it might take many years.
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
what do you mean its not like they are the yankees, or lakers, they suck and are horrible..How can you even say that the Knicks will be the Yankees? Yankees are good and Knicks have been awful BAD COMPARISSON
by RandyOreens on Oct 26, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
The Knicks are not the Giants and much less the Yankees.
Nets/Knicks is a MUCH different situation than Jets/Giants and even more different than Yankees/Mets
Don't kidd yourselves...
The Knicks have more a hold on this town then the Nets do, even with the Knicks pitiful display in the last decade. There where many times the Yankee’s and Giants sucked, for years on end, but they still are top dogs in this town. Mets and Jets are still their juniors, and I’m a Jets and Mets fan…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
What do you mean by more hold? What does that even mean?
by RandyOreens on Oct 26, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Perception along with history
the same way that people are opinionated with religion and politics. It’s just hard to change their minds.
In the eyes of many, the Nets will always play second fiddle to the Knicks.
"Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone"
DO you mean by Fan Base? probably . But "running the city" I dont think the Knicks will be running anything for a while
by RandyOreens on Oct 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Let me put it as simply as I can...
If the Knicks and Nets play at the same level, the Knicks will attract more fans, more media attention and more corporate sponsorship.
Their T.V. ratings and revenue on ads sold will also be much higher. There will be more Knicks merchandise sold.
You will see more Knicks Jerseys on the streets then Nets…
The Knicks own N.YC.
Hopefully the Nets can make major in roads on Knicks turf but it won’t be easy, even with Carmelo…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
Plus major free agents will still pick the Knicks over the Nets...
That is what I call “owning” the playing field…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
I could care less if they get sponorship or media what matters to me is winning. And I doubt Knicks get more media attention the first year when we get a lot of players thanks to prok, a beatiful arena and new team. We will be more talked about
by RandyOreens on Oct 26, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
And no major free agents have really gone to the Knicks unless you want to talk Amare getting the best offer from the Knicks.
by RandyOreens on Oct 26, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess you haven't kept up with recent events...LOL
You can come up with your fantasy scenarios, but I live in the real world, most of the time anyway…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
what do you mean? and NYC owns Knicks not the other way around. Knicks have been a joke around the league..so your wrong. When they start winning games then talk to me.
Opening Night in Brooklyn will be huge
by RandyOreens on Oct 26, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s exactly the point. The Knicks have been a joke round the league for the last decade yet they still sell out almost every game. NYC is a basketball-town, it yearns for the Knicks to succeed and it stays with them when they don’t.
Promoting a grenade-free America.
He's just makin stuff up...
With Joe Namath and after their Super Bowl, the Jets consistently outdrew the Giants from the late 60s to the mid 70s. They lost their fanbase and became the area’s “second team” after moving to Giants Stadium. Coincidentally, that’s also around the same time Bill Parcells came along and completely rebuilt the Giants.
Like the Jets, the Mets outdrew the Yankees throughout the late 60s to the mid 70s as well. They fell on hard times as Steinbrenner turned the Yankees into winners but once the Mets were rebuilt they again outdrew the Yankees from the mid 80s to the early 90s. They became the area’s “second team” after becoming a joke for the better part of the past 20 years. When and if they ever start to win again, they’ll again challenge if not yet again overtake the Yankees at the gate.
The Knicks are hardly the Yankees or Giants. Yes, they as part of the MSG/Radio City/Cablevision/Newsday Empire. But it’s an old and tired empire, one controlling a city that has always yearned for two teams. Once a second team becomes a true viable option, New Yorkers will break from the Empire in droves!
"Proky is NBA dumb!"
He's just makin stuff up...
With Joe Namath and after their Super Bowl, the Jets consistently outdrew the Giants from the late 60s to the mid 70s. They lost their fanbase and became the area’s “second team” after moving to Giants Stadium. Coincidentally, that’s also around the same time Bill Parcells came along and completely rebuilt the Giants.
Like the Jets, the Mets outdrew the Yankees throughout the late 60s to the mid 70s as well. They fell on hard times as Steinbrenner turned the Yankees into winners but once the Mets were rebuilt they again outdrew the Yankees from the mid 80s to the early 90s. They became the area’s “second team” after becoming a joke for the better part of the past 20 years. When and if they ever start to win again, they’ll again challenge if not yet again overtake the Yankees at the gate.
The Knicks are hardly the Yankees or Giants. Yes, they as part of the MSG/Radio City/Cablevision/Newsday Empire. But it’s an old and tired empire, one controlling a city that has always yearned for two teams. Once a second team becomes a true viable option, New Yorkers will break from the Empire in droves!
"Proky is NBA dumb!"
You can say that again...
and I see you did…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
Over the last 40 years or so, the Yankees have more fans then the Mets and the Giants have more fans then the Jets.
The Knicks owned and still own NYC…The Nets have never been a serious threat to the Knicks. This should now change, but it might take sometime to be able to catch fire in Brooklyn…And don’t fool yourself, the Knicks can get much better and very quickly…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
The Knicks are the only team in NYC so I guess they "own" the city. Knicks will get better when they fire their coach and front office
by RandyOreens on Oct 26, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
or sign Carmelo and his pal Chris Paul...
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
You get sucked into the Media and Knicks fans thats all they talk about and they almost make you believe it. Last year LeBron if he didnt win a title was a lock at going to the Knicks according to some.
by RandyOreens on Oct 26, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well there were obviously other plans, but if the Talents in South Beach hadn’t gotten together I think LeBron would be wearing a Knicks jersey. Just an opinion.
Promoting a grenade-free America.
He went to Miami so he could win I think if he left Cavs for a bad team in NY he would be the most hated sports figure. He probably would have gone to Chicago
by RandyOreens on Oct 26, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Forbes list of most valuable NBA franchises Dec. 2009...
Hot off last season’s championship, the magazine valued the Laker’s franchise at $607 million, which topped the New York Knicks (#2; $586 million), the Chicago Bulls (#3; $511 million) the Detroit Pistons (#4; $479 million) and the Cleveland Cavaliers (#5; $476 million).
The dreadful Knicks still at #2…
The Knicks were #1 the year before, 2008…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
that's in large part because of the market
and media contracts/stadium revenue and etc they’ve had to slash their ticket prices in recent years. Like someone said above the Mets are a laughing stock and they’re still the 2nd most valuable team in baseball because of the market.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
addendum: Cleveland Cavaliers
(#5; $476 million)
LOL
by Whoop Dee Damn Doo on Oct 26, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll say this once and only once!
(unless, the “post” icon gets stuck again and I hafta click on it twice that is)
“Over the last 40 years or so, the Yankees have more fans then the Mets and the Giants have more fans then the Jets.”
Over the last 40 years the Yankees have been to the World Series 11 times. Mets, 3.
Over the last 40 years the Giants have been to the Super Bowl 4 times. Jets 0.
The fact that the Mets and Jets have already outdrawn the older, more established, and more successful teams whenever they’ve been better (as rare as that has been) proves that just as many New Yorkers look to root against the establishment as support it.
The Knicks have been the establishment but unlike the Yankees and Giants have been a complete joke for 10 years now. Once their is a viable choice, the Knicks go bye-bye.
"Proky is NBA dumb!"
i think it's more that
there’s a ton of bandwagoners who show up to sporting events just as a diversion and not real interest in the team who jump back and forth depending on who’s winning.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
I disagree. New Yorkers have waited so long for the Knicks to be competitive again, I don’t think they’ll jump ship for the Nets unless the Nets are a powerhouse. If the two teams are relatively equal then I saw most if not all fans will stay with the Knicks.
Promoting a grenade-free America.
The Knicks won't be going bye-bye anytime soon...
Your well thought out argument just proves my point.
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
there's more than a large enough population
to support two franchises. And more than likely whoever the most successful franchise at the moment is will be the one with the larger fan base.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
While I agree that there is “more than a large enough population to support two franchises” I disagree that the “balance of fandom” will shift. Unless the Knicks remain in the gutter and the Nets become a top-tier team I would be very surprised if those that previously rooted for the Knicks make the shift to the Nets. Especially if the Knicks are able to get Melo, CP3 and Stat under one roof.
Promoting a grenade-free America.
I'
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It would take a generation
If the Nets were better than the Knicks for ten years or so and were housed in Brooklyn, kids would grow up Nets fans. I don’t think it is as easy to get adults to jump ship.
exactly
Can you see Bob from Manhattan, 35 years old,, Knick fans since the early 80s, jumping ship to the Nets?
We would have to be kicking some serious ass dude. Like serious ass. Bulls 72 wins type ass. We’ll have to be running through teams like Magic Johnson ran through California prior to 1991 for a mass exodus to begin, or the Dolans would have to run the Knicks into the ground even moreso than they already have
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but we're talking about long-term
not next year. this entire concept is about long-term fan fluctuations, hence how the mets/yankees shifts happened over decades.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
Bob from Manhattan?
How many 35 year olds do you know that are native Manhattanites? Manhattanites are all rich dudes who come from everywhere but New York. You’d prolly find as many Laker/Celtic/Bulls fan there as Knick ones. It’s not about Bob from Manhattan. It’s about Bob from Brooklyn, Queens, Long Island, and Jersey.
"Proky is NBA dumb!"
Really?
How many Manhattanites do you know? How many were born and raised there? Walk around any part of the boro from Battery Park to Union Square to Columbus Circle to with the latest gentrification, most of 125th and tell me how many natives you come across.
"Proky is NBA dumb!"
sorry
I think that the area can support two basketball franchises, I just doubt the probability of there being a huge shift of fans. Especially right away or regardless of the Nets getting Melo. Knick fans may be loud, arrogant, and a bunch of goosetags, but they’re loyal.
I think that Brooklyn folks will support, but these people in NY have been diehard Knick fans for decades. Hell I’d wager that 2 out of every 3 basketball fans in this state are Knick fans due to the Nets being an embarrassment of a franchise for most of the last 30 years.
It will take a decade for the Nets to truly take over NY.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
You and I agree for the most part about the fan thing, but I do think that if the Nets manage to get CP3 and Melo (which is very doubtful) and the Knicks remain in mediocrity there will be a shift within NYC.
Promoting a grenade-free America.
i dunno
I doubt you’d see diehard Met fans jumping ship over to the Yankees just because of a big name being signed, I think that it would be the same in this case.
We’d get NY support in general if we’re good, but I doubt you’d see Knick fans 24-65 years old jumping ship
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Diehards will never jump
But diehards aren’t the ones who make the money for the team.
It’s the casual fan.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Don't under estimate the amount...
of grief and hardship Knicks fans can take.
You just have to look at Nets fans to understand this.
Nets will peel off some Knicks fans, but must grow some totally new fans, out of the 10 million or so local residents…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
i know
terrible spelling error. i didn’t get much sleep last night after last night’s binge drinking during the game
ugh
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
who said anytrhing about right away?
we’re talking about over years. and who said all the loyal knicks fans would jump ship? Do you think the knicks current base is 100% loyal? It’s more likely than it’s 70-30 true fans-people who just show up to sporting events, and even the 70 might be too high (just for example remember how quickly the clippers started selling out play-off games that 1 year they were good?)
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
that's exactly what historic attendance figures show
Yanks outdraw the Mets when they are better, Giants outdraw the Jets when they are better, and vice-versa. Yanks and Giants usually are the top team in town, NOT b/c of tradition or history, but simply b/c they’re usually better.
For about 10 years tho (roughly 1964-1975) Shea was the place to be. Especially after the Mets and Jets started to actually win. As I said earlier, once the Mets got good again in the ’80s (roughly 1984-1990) they again easily outdrew the Yanks.
Even the Nets outdrew the Knicks during the early 80s after first moving into their brand new arena in the swamp and featuring a young team that included Sugar Ray, Buck Williams and Darryl Dawkins. Knicks were bad during those years but they quickly rebounded after drafting Ewing.
Being that the Nets wont be in any swamp in Brooklyn, and that I don’t see the Knicks drafting any Hall of Famers any time soon (do they even have any future draft picks?) I’m pretty confident that the Nets will be able to compete with and overtake the Knicks over the long haul.
"Proky is NBA dumb!"
+1 New York's a Knick town
"Nets fans gotta think the glass is half full. too many of us look at it as half empty"
-I says
Ummm
What?
0-82
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks
by NetsMets4Life on Oct 26, 2010 11:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Manhattan Bridge
Is just as Brooklyn as the Brooklyn Bridge… they both connect Brooklyn to Manhattan. And the Manhattan Bridge is closer to the Barclay’s Center site.
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
it's the MANHATTAN Bridge
so what. Dumb choice by Knicks. The Manhattan Bridge is not the symbol of Brooklyn.
Brooklyn symbolism?....
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
by M I K E on Oct 26, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does that ever bring back memories.
"Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone"
by aunt-B on Oct 26, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Listen to the ground, there is movement all around.
There is somethin’ goin’ down, and I can feel it.
On the waves of the air, there is dancin’ out there.
If it’s somethin’ we can share, we can steal it.
“The Nets fever, Nets fever: we know how to do it.
Gimme the Nets fever, Nets fever: we know how to show it”.
LETS GO NETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
by M I K E on Oct 26, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
too funny!
I have an old Bee Gee’s Saturday Night fever LP around here somewhere. You have to admit those were great days. To be 17 again…
"Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone"
by aunt-B on Oct 26, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you ask a lot of people on here
What it’s like to be 17. You’ll find out.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Seventeen?
Man, I’m getting old…In 1977 I was already collecting social security benefits…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
That's when Saturday Night Fever came out
I was 17 at the time a Senior in high school, some of the best days of my life. To all the kiddos on NetsDaily: enjoy your youth, and don’t take it for granted.
You’ll be “old” soon enough.
Enjoy the ride!
"Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone"
Before you do it aunt-B...
“I learned the truth at seventeen
That love was meant for beauty queens…
At seventeen I learned the truth”…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
Oh yes... I remember now...teen angst...
“I got a baby’s brain and an old man’s heart
Took eighteen years to get this far
Don’t always know what I’m talking about
Feels like I’m living in the middle of doubt
Cause I’m Eighteen
I get confused every day
Eighteen, I just don’t know what to say
Eighteen, I just gotta get away”
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
your very sweet M I K E
This is a painful week for me. Four years ago Halloween night my oldest brother died due to a horrible accident.
He was the epitome of living life to the fullest and never worrying about tomorrow.
I really miss him
"Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone"
He's still here aunt-B...
My dear aunt died a few months ago. but I still know she’s around.
In fact I see her and feel her, more now, then ever…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
sorry to hear that aunt-b
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Mr. DB
You’re quite boisterous and not afraid of expressing your opinion,in a way, a lot like my brother.
(In a very good way :)
"Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone"
Yeah... sure, Mr. DB...
but just remember, I’m the “sweet” one…So there!
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
Please don't worry M I K E,
You will always be the melody to my song.
"Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone"
As much as I hate the Knicks
I’m glad they did this. NY needs to support its own bad team, not pretend to be a fan of my state’s team, just because we had the better decade.
That being said, I’m glad more venom is being added to this rivalry.
this kind of looks like something i could make on ms paint.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
What a pack of clowns.
Cablevision subscribers should look at the $100 Million dollars featured in that poster and openly question as to why they can’t watch Giants games on sunday afternoons.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
"So easy a Caveman can do it"
"Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone"
They should have put that on the IDT building
In Newark, NJ not in NY. By the time the Nets were playing in Barclays Center that sign won’t be there anymore.
"There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry, called up Magic and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team,'"
by jasperjarrod on Oct 26, 2010 12:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well thanks for explaining...?
by JohnFromLongIsland on Oct 26, 2010 1:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would really love to understand...
but…understand what?
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
Exactly... You don't understand, Mike...
It IS hysterical though.
by JohnFromLongIsland on Oct 26, 2010 1:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It must be a very "inside" joke...
I don’t get it, but I’m still laughing… makes me look cool….
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
When will we start seeing some media hype about Prokhorov's visit?
I expected him to have a press conference today actually, just to talk about the upcoming season, his “surprise”, and anything about dancing bears.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
by M I K E on Oct 26, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Uh oh Knicks!!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-knicksdraft102610
For the past four years, the New York Knicks may have circumvented NBA draft rules by conducting secret workouts of collegiate players throughout gymnasiums in suburban Atlanta, Yahoo! Sports has found.
I call for sanctions! They must give up draft picks! Oh they don’t have any….
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
LOL
Cheated in the draft and they STILL picked Jordan Hill!
by JohnFromLongIsland on Oct 26, 2010 1:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 8 recs
just recompense of reward :)
"Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone"
Oh man
Can’t make this stuff up.
0-82
NetsMets4life = Kat Stacks
by NetsMets4Life on Oct 26, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
why would they have secret workouts with college players?
they never have draft picks.
by shane gayle on Oct 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
eliminate the potential competition
"Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone"
The NBA is corrupt...
David Stern has been in power too long.
Do you really think only one ref was on the take?
Do you really believe teams don’t contact other teams free agents?
Do you really think that college players are non professionals?
If you answered yes too any of these questions please call me at (860) 346-7201,
about some real estate venture that will make you loads of quick cash instantly…
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
how do you cheat in the draft
and still not amount to spit?
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Reads more like Hurd was moonlighting to help the agent build up his clients
And figured Wilson Chandler was actually good enough to hide for the Knicks.
More of a dirty agent story then a dirty Knick scout story really.
don't let the Melo trade go through
Prokhorov will have Manhattan looking like a mural dedicated to Melo
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh boy, Yormark is talking
Al_Iannazzone Nets CEO Brett Yormark’s on Knicks’ doings in Brooklyn: "I’m glad to see they know where Brooklyn is. Clearly, they know what’s coming."
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
by eLonepb on Oct 26, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
This is what I like to see
clean good old competition.
At least he wasnt upset like Knicks Management.
exactly
I’m not a fan of Brett “D” Yormark, but I approve of this.
The Knicks got mad and Dolan cried like a coward. We just shrug our shoulders and talk smack
meanwhile, our owner is probably oblivious to the Knicks 2 dollar ad, while Dolan is ripping off Cablevision customers.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I've always said Yormark's niche in our organization
would be playing the attack dog role. That’s where he’s in his element.
Nets = Global
Knicks = Local
Is this guy Yormark for real?
Getting in a mud wrestling match with James Dolan… LMAO
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
Just like he got in that ridiculous "brawl"
with the Nets fans with the paper bags on their head last season.
Prokhorov should of fired this clown too.
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach...
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT YORMARK
TALK THAT SMACK BABY
COME GET SOME
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Subliminal messages
I like that billboard and think it works on a couple of different levels.
Im filling a ballon with paint and im throwing it at the sign.
"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
do it
I dare you
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 26, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets beat them on the Court!
Thats what counts. Who cares about posters! We need to sweep that ass this season.
lol wait the Amar'e pic was deleted and I got warned?
That was on the cover of ESPN The Magazine!
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
You should thank NI for deleting that picture :)
"Thy soul shall find itself alone
'Mid dark thoughts of the grey tomb-stone"
Hmm in other news, Greg Oden will not be getting an extension, making him an RFA this summer
anyone up for a former number 1 pick this summer?
Knicks will always dominate NYC
No matter how many times the Nets try to be marketed as a NY team, they will always find themselves second best to the Knicks. I find this a bad idea to have them move to Brooklyn where it’s mostly likely that most long time Knicks fans will never convert to the Nets even if they move there. Let’s not forget that the Knicks have been around longer since they are one of three teams left from the innagural season. Also they along with the Celtics have never moved from their cities since starting, though the Warriors, another founding member, is the only one that actually moved. The Nets should just go with the Devils and be marketed as a NJ team instead, because that’s where their real fans are.
Were you living under a rock?
PigDaddy3, I have been opposed to the Nets moving to Brooklyn since it was first proposed back in 2003. The comment you just replied to states why it’s a bad idea. However, if you have evidence that fans will convert, I would like to see it, otherwise my claim upholds. Honestly, most fans to their team are loyal, and they will not jump ship just because of the number of losing seasons they had. If that was the case, then I would have been rooting for the Yankees because of the bandwagons rather than the a team that tries hard like the Mets. If Brooklynites really like the Nets, then why aren’t they rooting for them right now while they are still in NJ? Why do they need to wait until they come to Brooklyn to root for them? To add on to saying that it’s a bad idea, it’s not just taking away a team from an area that at least gives them some fan base, it’s also a project that involves the abuse of eminent domain and corporate welfare. Don’t give me that it will create jobs for locals, because it’s most likely most of the jobs will be relocated from who is working at Nets games right now just like the tenants at MTC, another one of Ratner’s projects, that were both public and private, so new jobs were actually created from them. Speaking of MTC, it was hardly seen as anything revitalizing downtown Brooklyn as being nothing but an office park that became almost empty on both weekends and after hours making it an epic fail for the neighborhood not to forget alienated the idea of a 24-7 community. Menawhile, his malls are filled with mostly corporations that give nothing but minium wage jobs that can hardly help anyone pay their rents that don’t increase the same way wages do. Overall, I don’t like the idea of destroying a neighborhood that their own residents helped fix up when nobody helped them only to now be destroyed by another mega developement that doesn’t even fit in there. One last question I have to ask here. If it was really about the Nets, then why is the arena only a small part of the project and not the majority of it?
by Tal Barzilai on Oct 27, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
The EMPIRE STRIKES BACK is a great Title, fitting of the Knicks.
But remember, the Rebellion forces win in the end.
Death to The Death Star.
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