Murphy's Back But Avery Warns Don't Expect Early Returns
by Net Income on Oct 25, 2010 9:27 PM EDT
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PrintTroy Murphy did some light practicing Monday, his first since being shut down just before the Nets went on the world tour two weeks ago. So far so good, but Avery Johnson says don't expect much any time soon...like the first two games. He thinks the 6'11" PF needs at least three practices. Monday only counted as a half.
Without Johnson saying when Murphy will be back, the team's schedule is such that he's unlikely to play until Sunday afternoon against the Three Amigos of Miami. Moreover, Johnson predicted that the power forward spot is likely to be "a revolving tour" for a while, maybe even the entire season, assuming Derrick Favors develops at a good pace.
Who starts Wednesday? Most likely it will be Joe Smith, headed into his 15th year in the NBA, with Kris Humphries probably next up.
- Murphy’s Back and the Revovling Power Forward Spot - Al Iannazzone - In the 'Zzone
- Nets' revolving door at power forward continues - Fred Kerber - New York Post Nets Blog
- Troy Murphy returns to practice for Nets - Colin Stephenson - Nets Blast
- Murphy's Recovery Road Leaves Revolving '4' - Ben Couch - New Jersey Nets
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“Welcome back, welcome back…
Yeah man, how you doin’
You good?
How long you been back man?
Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome back”
"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
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"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
by Andy. on Oct 25, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
don’t think so…
"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
flag?
"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
I keep hoping the reason it would be a miracle
Is because he would have to be playing for the Pistons in a 3-team deal for that to happen.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
good news
We’ll need the full PF platoon against Miami. We need to play them physical.
Sucks that he’s missed so much time already though but Troy’s a pro.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
Definitly!!!
Other than Bosh, their frontline isn’t that serious.
i cant wait to watch lakers play the heat tomorrow
"On tools alone, Favors has star potential...The issue for him is that he’s still figuring out the game...But the team that drafts him may have to be patient."
Me too
I wanted to watch the Heat play the Magic the other night, but that game was literally and figuratively “put on ice” :)
Stern didn't want Miami to face a 30 point loss to Orlando
So he said the floor was “too slippery”
~AC24
In New Jersey
We refer to them as the majority of the fans in the arena.
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
and the nba playoffs!!!
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 25, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that Bird?
"Nobody in the league can guard you one-on-one," Johnson bellowed from the sideline. "It's an insult to you if they try."
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Throwback sweetness!
"Nobody in the league can guard you one-on-one," Johnson bellowed from the sideline. "It's an insult to you if they try."
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Why are we talking about that Favors guy here?
Also, why is Net playing on Nuggets and Nugget on Nets? This is **** up situation. I don’t know who should i root for. SOS
You can’t spell Nuggets without N-E-T-S.
All you need is the Ugg…
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 25, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
GO NETS!!!!
TW is a beast.
Oh, I forgot…Favors is a beast!
Murphy is a beast!
Oh…sorry, Favors is a beast!
The Nets are looking pretty beastly.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 25, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Carmelo (and Karl) have a sense of humor
From the Denver Post
“With all the (trade) talk that was going around and still is going around, for me to be able to open up here against Utah, I like that,” Anthony said.
After practice, the team met with Karl on the court, and the coach and Melo had a funny give-and-take.
Karl told the team that if a shot is missed, then it’s a bad shot.
“So we were just trying to distinguish what is a bad shot,” Anthony said. "I asked if my defender is three feet off me, if it’s a bad shot. He said, ‘If it doesn’t go in.’ "
Nice!
Congratulations to Joe Smith for starting. I know for me, he is exactly what I envisioned as the power forward. Well worth the 12-win season.
I hear he is a nice guy.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 25, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Smith
believe it or not, will be a player most Net fans will end up trusting most to come up big for us. The guy is solid. He hits all of his jumpers, grabs boards in traffic, sets legit screens. He goes out and does what it takes to win. I, for one, love those kinds of players
I remember I was the first to say
that I would like to see Favors thrown to wolves and Netincome said he would be a foul magnet. Which NI was and is right,
Yet I would love to see him struggle early and get it out his system. The kid should not be afraid to fail. Afraid that if a mistake is made he is disappointing his teammates or coach.
Either way can’t wait till Wednesday
by killa kadafi191 on Oct 25, 2010 5:37 PM EDT reply actions
LEBRON
I am sorry this has nothing to do with murphy but this is absolutely necessary.
The new Lebron commercial is hilarious. This guy is the biggest tool I have ever seen. He kills jordan and charles barkley. As well as every fan outside of Miami.
If I was Jordan I would come out with a commercial with my six rings.
Any thoughts how big of a tool lebron is…
Any thoughts how big of a tool lebron is…
The guy is beyond thoughts.
If anyone in the NBA has ever set himself up for a huge Karmic fall, it is “my skills”.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 25, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, Mr KV
While you’re back bringing your dose of “reality” to the board, I wanted to share with you an article that you may find enlightening.
I know this is completely unrelated to anything, but considering how badly you wanted to debunk the fact Outlaw could and has played significant minutes at PF as arguably his better position (ignoring stats and Blazer fans testimony and telling me I was wrong), I figured you might be interested in eating some crow.
http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2010/10/travis_outlaw_embracing_transi.html
Some excerpts…
Travis Outlaw embracing transition to small forward for Nets
A change in image from the unassuming backup power forward was on the horizon
As the slated starter at small forward this season after years as a No. 2 power forward with the Blazers and Clippers — just 32 total starts in 400 career games
"The (small forward role) is nice," Outlaw said. "It’s a lot more exciting than pickin’ and poppin’ and shootin.’ Don’t get me wrong, the ‘4’ is a tough position, but ‘3’ you gotta be a little more active from the weak side, there’s a little bit more to do."
Not that I expect you to admit you were wrong, but it’s nice to be able to show others that you really don’t know what your talking about all the time.
by Jack Handy Jr on Oct 25, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
what are you getting at? Outlaw has shown no ability to effective at 3 or 4, thus far.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
He's barely played the 4
But this is a long standing argument with KV from when we 1st signed him. He’s been known to better as a stretch 4, than a 3, and maybe we’’ll see that, since he sucks as a 3.
by Jack Handy Jr on Oct 25, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
As I said then, and I’ll say here, this team is not constructed in the same way the Portland teams he played the 4 at. I never said he didn’t play the 4, I said he played it on a different type team. He talks like he has never played the 3, I don’t know what to make of that. He played the three with Portland and he played the 3 with the Clippers.
But if you are thrilled with him at the 4, then we are all set. We can have him at the 4 and TW at the 3, and have Harris at the 2 and Farmar at the one and start the shortest, lightest team in the league.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 25, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Notice that in this quote about the 4, he says nothing about defending or rebounding from the 4. Always a good sign.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 25, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
if outlaw averages 8 reb's over first 15 games
I’ll buy a round
I would thnk the 4 being his better position
says more about his 3 skills than his 4 skills.
and not in a good way.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
Gina, are you worried about the Outlaw contract now?
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
I was worried to begin with
thought worried isn’t the right word. I just think it was a dumb contract.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
I remember what you thought about the contract. Wondering if it is getting worse than worried. The only thing that justifies the contract is “upside”, the idea that in a few years Outlaw is going to be better than he is right now, a more than decent SF. Not sure that I’m seeing that.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
by kv on Oct 26, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean I don't think it's going to sink us
I just think it shows a bad process, which is the real worrisome part. Because bad process will lead to the type of deals that will sink you.
mediocrity thy name is Wilpon- jdon (and Billy King-Paul G B)
i get wait till Kobe
and the Lakers win it, and while he takes all the blame for them losing despite having a 70 win team, Kobe is getting compared to MJ.
just saw the new Lebron ad... could he further sabotage his career and reputation... apparantly, yes.
Outlaw is the new Yi - just with more money and longer contract without the 7.2 rebounds and occasional shooting streak.
you know the guys a real piece of work
when he goes on national TV on an hour long special, to announce his breakup with Cleveland. then, claims it was for a good cause because of everything that was raised. He couldn’t be subtle and just come out with it. No he put loads of salt on the wound, and then he made a fool of himself, the NBA, and was a disgrace to basketball fans everywhere. How anyone can root for the egotistical jerk is beyond me.
Avery and Murphy
I can tell from early on Avery has a low tolerance for injury prone players. He rather Murphy be 100% then put him in there and have him get hurt again. He is being patient.
A healthy Murphy in the lineup should vault us to playoff contention.
As long as Smith and Hump are our PFs
can we just add the loses to last years record? Can someone tweet to incarceratedbob whether the rumor was false or if Melo killed the deal? It’s not like you’ll get the truth out of the media or even the story before the tweet.
"We need a go to scorer more than we need a PF" eLonepb 10/20/10
Man... The comments today are all over the place...
WELCOME BACK TROY. Please refrain from injuring yourself again until Favors is developed into a starter. Thanks!
by JohnFromLongIsland on Oct 25, 2010 6:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I just read one of ESPN Insider's last pieces
Chad Ford quotes rival scouts on every team, and the one he asked about the Nets has high praise for both TWill and Favors. He says TWill is going to be a player, while praising him for his skills, athleticism, high bb iq and toughness. He says DFav is gonna be a monster and could have a STAT-type of rookie season.
LOL
Scout bashes D’antoni and quotes a Knicks player as saying they haven’t discussed D in practice for months. LMAO.
LoooooooooooooooL
(Amare) “wouldn’t guard a plate of food if he was starving”. Even tho he says he likes Amare, he says he’s not worth $100M. He bashes Felton hard too.
When Amar'e tries to play tought D
he just gets in foul trouble. You can also take him out of his offense. He’s very much a softie, just a very talented one.
chad
ford also mocked the Knicks for taking landry fields. shows how much he knows.
Yeah the scout
is wrong. I agree. The scout has no idea what hes talking about, i mean he just covers the team for a living. I too would rather believe a Knick fan about the Nets!
by i says on Oct 26, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who's going to the game Wednesday?
Ima be in section 22! Cant wait to check out the somewhat new stadium for the first time along with the new team.. Lets go NETS!!!
Develop Favors!
I have a gut feeling, that Harris is going to have a great year. If we keep Favors and dont make the playoffs, there a good chance we can land a key player in the draft. If Denver doesn’t find a deal for Melo, then what we do(play better than Knicks) this season can lead him to choose to play for the Nets. I think We should give picks and a bum or try our chances in the offseason.
What’s the deal with Murphys back. Is anyone going to say what it is for sure?
Favors is why I watch
And I will watch Denver if he gets traded.
Am I reading between the lines too much or does Avery sound cool on Murphy. I mean, it feels like he doesn’t want him. I think, maybe, no proof, that Avery did not like this move by King. I think it was a smart move given our problems at 4 and Courtney Lee is not a great thing to give up, but Avery seems to want this rotation thing going on. Murphy is the best one. The one with the most experience. The one who can rebound. The one who can shoot. I don’t see how Smith, who is too old, and Hump, who has bad shot selection, and Favors, who is raw, can even be thought about as starting over Murphy or taking his minutes. I also didn’t like what Avery said a few weeks ago that Murphy has to play more inside. The guy has been in the league for how long, Avery? And now you are going to change him into a post player? I am not sure about Avery and his methods.
i think avery uses the media and some of his quotes
to motivate different players in different ways. i remember in the summer league he barely mentioned t-will, which i thought was trouble. but behind the scenes, we later find out that they were developing this great relationship and t-will was raving about avery.
i think in murph’s case, avery is saying PF is a revolving door because 1) murphy has a history of injury problems and that’s just the plain reality and 2) as a subtle challenge to murphy to get/stay healthy, play hurt and fight for his minutes
imagine something extremely witty here
i think avery uses the media and some of his quotes to motivate different players in different ways.
This actually can backfire over time. It takes a master manipulator (Phil Jackson type), a coach with huge reserves of respect, and a generally winning situation. Otherwise it can grind on players, make them feel disrespected and humiliated.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
Kudos to Conor Orr who has a headline that sounds positive about Murphy’s return. Everyone else quoted “the revolving door”. If Murphy is healthy the four should be more stable than the 1, 2 or 3. And you right, Murphy plays the post, it would destroy the spacing for Lopez that he was brought in to create.
by ispartan on Oct 25, 2010 8:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I mean, it feels like he doesn’t want him. I think, maybe, no proof, that Avery did not like this move by King.
No proof, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
"Sometimes it's the people. Any player can play defense, but not every player will play defense. Sometimes it's a lack of perseverance." - A. Johnson
Devin seems like his attitude is better
Interesting comment from Farmar…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/25/AR2010102504378.html
Section 18, Row 7 at The Rock!
Just nice talk for the media. Media savvy. Neither one is a dummy.
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 25, 2010 9:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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