Opinions on drafting Derrick Favors?

Assuming he would be a defensive presence that we sorely needed.

Getting favors is like rolling the dice, he can be from a 1-6. Settling for an “NBA ready” player would equate to say a 3 or 4 but no chance of anything higher. The Nets are not ready to compete right now, there are too many good teams out there. Why not settle for the future and the potential “6” of Favors? Getting an NBA ready player would never help us, we would still be a fringe playoff team with them.

My original, and strongest feeling is that IF we got the first pick, it would be Wall(and man am I sad we missed out on him after that season) and IF we didnt get the 1st, even though I like Turner, Favors and Johnson, I didnt think they would be anything good enough to keep. I feel like we should have traded the pick before the draft if they werent going to be an absolute guarantee, like Wall seems to be.

so what? In 2/ 3 year he’ll be putting up KG numbers. we didnt get wall that sux , but we didnt need turner at all cause Twill is better than turner, Cousins is a Center not a pf, brook is a Center not a PF, we didnt need another Center not when u have an allstar Center. If anything the sixers messed up for not taking Cousins…thats who they should have drafted, as far as SF we can always get those, but we needed a Long term PF who has all the makings of a dynasty PF for the NETS, and thats exactly what we got. We all have to be patient…you mention another rebuilding year…of course it is, you don’t go from 12 wins to playoffs, statistically that does not happen. We have the makings of a great team. fans just need patience

We can’t judge Favors right now for many reasons.
He is only 19
He went to GT. Its not the same as going to Kentucky trust me
The Nets are a young team that doesn’t know how to play together.
Favors isn’t getting the ball in the post. He has shot mostly jumpers.
Favors is more of a defensive player than a scorer like Cousins
I’m starting to think Cousins would have better fit for the Nets for 1 reason.
The Nets needed a PF right now and Cousins could have started with Brook right now.
Brook has an outside shot and he can drive to the basket.
At worst the Nets could have drafted cousins and used him as trade bait like they are doin with Favors.
Favors will be good but it might not be until game 30

But, I have hope in Favors. I think he will pan out within 3 years.

Favors looks solid in preseason. Gets after it, runs hard, grabs boards. Fundamentals seem to already be established

Rod Thorn has not drafted (or traded for) a stud at the Power Forward position since K-Mart was allowed to leave as a free agent. Coincidence?

Given the Nets need for big men, you had to go with Cousins. He was the most NBA-ready and best big man coming out.

Why draft a project when you can pick up someone that can step in and produce right away? Cousins has been described as a “6-11 Charles Barkley.” Who passes on that?

When a franchise-player stares you in the face, you take him! They had ’em both in for a workout together like other teams where Cousins clearly dominated.

Rod’s excuse for not opting for him was that he had too many red flags vis a vis anger management issues (so has all-Pro Rasheed Wallace); That he wasn’t a complement to Brook Lopez because he was also a center (Cousins plays the 4 and Lopez can play the 4 like Duncan when Cousins mans the 5); And that he was “high maintenance.” "Melo isn’t?

The last excuse was Avery Johnson’s as well. He wanted a “low maintenance” player! Fine, How ‘bout a corpse? A player that plays like he’s dead is of no use. Charles Oakley made his presence felt. So does Cousins. Favors resembles Stromile Swift so far.

If Avery thinks that selecting Favors over Turner was a no-brainer, than what happened to Cousins over Favors? A good thing Avery wasn’t given the GM’s hat as well!

I want to see favors when his body is fully developed… He still needs to grow and put on Lots of muscle. Physically he looks alike hes going to become a great player.

I want to know how they’re developing favors. If I was his trainer I wouldn’t even focus post moves or jumpshots. I always hear the nets talking about hus jump shot… We don’t need him shooting.

1.I would make favors shoot free throws for 4-5 hrs daily.

Once he starts hitting free throws consistantly then he can move to more complicated stuff.

But if favors makes his free throws and plays agressive I can see him score 10ppg. If he improves his offense just imagine…

check the recent year of players from the lottery. its either they start off good or become a bust.
kobe is an exception.

Drive has always been questioned with favors…still nets picked him.

Nets saw something in favors…

i still think favors is going to do well

he passes well for a big man…hes strong…he is a good finisher….athletic tools to get the job done…defensive mentality….rebounding mentality.

he just needs to work on technique, positioning, confidence…and hes good to go

u guys are being way too hard on the rook…it isnt even fair

Interesting.

But there are a looot of things he has to work on. And his ceiling doesn’t seem to look as high as it once did. If he turns out to be a good role player, that’s a success already for me

What, so when he’s 20, what’s the excuse then? If John Wall or DeMarcus Cousins screw up, do they get the excuse that “they’re only 20?” No, they don’t get that luxury. but is there a large age or experience gap between them or Favors? They both have 1 year of college experience, they all played high school basketball and AAU basketball. It’s not like we’re talking a 10 year age gap here, it’s an age gap of often just a few months

- If Cousins was closer to a pure 4 , he’d be my man easily.
- If we didn’t already have Lopez , Cousins would have been my man easily.
- If I thought Wes Johnson was going to be an elite wing , he’d be my man.I like him and think he’ll be good …. don’t know about great.

The Nets were just stuck with what they could do given the circumstances.

Monroe is an interesting guy though. He can shoot , handle , pass , and has a good basketball IQ and would have complimeted Brook pretty well. He seems like he will be a solid pro. They went with a more athletic and raw guy …… only time will tell years down the line if the decision was the right way to go. Hard to say either way.
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Look, everyone knew that Favors needed 2-3 years to develop. EVERYONE! “Well how come Cousins doesn’t need all that time blah blah blah”.. that is completely inconsequential!!! With that statement, you are basically complaining about whether it was wiser to take a finished product in the draft or a project. You want to have that discussion, FINE, go right ahead… Just do us all a favor and don’t label Favors a bust or any worse than Cousins/Johnson until you give him the 2-3 years that we all KNEW HE NEEDED!

5 preseason games is hardly that..

Come 2013, if Cousins is the better player (and still in the league).. you can say all you want.

But most superstars that were once labelled as projects or at the least “not-NBA ready” -in the sense they were straight out of HS for example – at least put up very productive numbers as a rookie. There is no indication through (i get it, only 5 games) preseason play and the entire summer league that Favors has the skill to be simply productive for the foreseaable future. I don’t think anyone in their right mind expected Favors to come out the gate with 19 pts, 11 rebs and 2.5 blks a game – but I think a lottt of fans expected around 9 or 10 points, 6+ rebounds and a measley block a game while providing quality energy packed minutes (easy dunks, hustle plays, the occasional ferocious block, offensive put-backs etc) and understanding his role. At this point he looks beyond raw, utterly lost, and not capable of providing a punch of enthusiastic play that most lottery picks with a future (even if very raw) display .

For example, the following numbers for the most part are not overwhelming but I think this set the bar for where a developing rookie who is/was touted to be an absolute lock as a future frontcourt stud would look like… I understand Favors will presumably not average as many minutes (I assume 20-22 versus appx 30-31 these guys received), but if has the equivalent ceiling to these guys, it would be nice to at least be matching these numbers in a per minute ratio:

Following Stats are for Rookie seasons:
K Garnett: 28 minutes – 10.4 points, 6.3 rebs, 1.6 blks, 1.1 stls
D Howard: 32.5 minutes – 12 points, 10 rebs 1.7 blks .9 stls
A Stoudemire: 31 minutes – 13.5 points, 8.8 rebs, 1.1 blks, .8 stls
C Bosh: 33 minutes – 11.5 points, 7.4 rebs, 1.4 blks, .8 stls

Why is Rubio being 19 an excuse for him to shoot as poorly as he does?

Select an NBA ready player whose ceiling is an 8/10, can reach that ceiling within 3 years, and can push you up to 40 wins the next season and a playoff birth?

Or select a guy whose ceiling is 10/10, but needs 5 years to reach it, and can only push you up to 25 wins?

Option A gets you to the playoffs faster, and within 3 years you have a shot at home court. Option B gets you lottery picks for the next few years (I mean that as a good thing, for those who didn’t catch that), and can make you a title contender within 5.

Thats just basic logic that never mentions character or positional need. A 12 win team isn’t doing much anytime soon. Anyone who thought otherwise was just kidding themselves. Projects are BEST taken at times like this. A 50 win team is the one that needs to draft ready now player.

Now looking back the thing i dont understand is this Owner wants to win and put fans in the seats, become a global team etc etc, Couldnt have Cousins helped us with those things Proky has said?, im starting to look at this way we have Cousins and Lopez and we go into FA next yr and Melo is there wuld he still pick the Knicks or come to the nets and play with 2 dominate players in the frontcourt?, Also wouldnt cousins help bring Top FA’s, im just saying and all this talk that cousins and lopez cant play with each other is crazy look at the team right now there having a hard time scoring the ball with cousins we would be amazing, Its just lke Wade and Lebron they cant play together and thats false because they can and will show everyone they can,

It will take three years from now to figure out whether Favors was a good choice. AND I disagree with many about who we should have drafted. When you are 12-70, getting immediate help makes no sense, since we needed help in so many areas. We are better off with a project with a great upside because we will be getting another lottery pick this year, since we will finish out of the playoffs by ten or twelve games or more. Three years from now, when we are in Brooklyn, that’s when we want to get to the playoffs, and get through a round. If Favors pans out, he will be a starting quality PF when we get to Brooklyn. If he is still here, and stinks, then you can say that we screwed up.

Here is how Favors needs to be used.

On Offense, Favors should get touches in
1) Pick and Rolls
2) Penetrations and Dishes
3) Fast Break Points and Alley Oops

On Defense,
1) Boxing out
2) Defensive Rebounds
3) Block Shots
4) Defend best Low Post Threat.

On Offense Favors would be better if he played with a pass first PG. Harris is too focused on getting his points that unless Avery pulls harder on the reigns this is going to be another wasted year. There is a reason why Avery and King are ok with losing Harris. Harris isnt the long term solution for this team.

How can anyone pass judgement on whether drafting Favors was a good move or not? The kid hasn’t played a regular season game yet! He is a raw, young talent, we need to give him a year or two (atleast) to mature and work on his game before it will be known whether or not he is the real deal.