Random Thoughts From Newark Open House
It took us a little while to get to the Prudential Center Thursday. A weather-related "signal problem at Newark" delayed our train, an inauspicious start to the Nets' promotion of mass transit. Still, we thought we saw enough to get a good read of the night's events. Here are our thoughts, players in the order in which they joined the Nets.
Star of the Show: It wasn't Devin or TWill or Brook or Derrick or even Avery. It was the venue. The Prudential Center will bring tears to the eyes of those who suffered through the last few years of the IZOD Center. It's more intimate, less cavernous, with better lighting, better access and a fresh feel. Only one NBA arena will be newer this season: the Amway Center in Orlando. As noted, we took the train. It took us 11 minutes to get from our seats in section 18 to our seats on NJ Transit (return trip had no delay) and that was without police directing traffic at the four intersections between the Rock and Penn Station. The practice was over at 8 p.m. We were home at 8:40. The media will get a quick look see at the new NBA locker rooms on Sunday. It's been a priority for Mikhail Prokhorov. (Note that the words, "NEW JERSEY Nets" do not appear on the court. It is, as we reported, "Nets Basketball".
Devin Harris: Yes, he looked bigger across the shoulders and he was somewhat aggressive going into the paint, feeding the post. His shot was off...so was everyone's other than Jordan Farmar. At times, he looked like he was holding back a bit, which isn't surprising. At one point, he made sure Damion James took his defensive role seriously.
Brook Lopez: We're always amazed at how big he is...not just tall, but big. Excelled in getting to the basket, hauling in passes and finishing. He seemed confident and showed no ill effects from his mononucleosis. He didn't seem like he was putting out maximum effort, much like Harris, but then as Allen Iverson said, it's practice. Did we see him complain to a practice ref?!
Terrence Williams: He had a contusion of his left quadriceps which looked worse than it was, apparently. Before that, he was as exciting as ever, but more controlled. He slashed and dunked, played some defense. Brought the ball up a couple of time when Farmar was on the court. If you liked what you saw at the end of the year or in summer league, you were happy.
Kris Humphries: Mixed it up with Derrick Favors all night long...looked aggressive underneath. Very determined play at both ends. He is still a black hole on offense, but as a back-up to Troy Murphy and Favors, he'll be fine. And remember, he is one of the team's young players, only 25.
Derrick Favors: Not that raw. He is athletic and big, with a legitimate 7'4" wingspan. He is strong, being able to take down some rebounds in traffic and putting them back up. Displayed good hands when Farmar found him. Fouled a bit too much, but remember he is the youngest player in the NBA this season and will be the youngest Net ever, by about six months, if he survives the Carmelo Anthony rumors.
Damion James: Didn't see enough of him. He hit a "J', made a nice pass, got inside. We wonder about his ball handling at the NBA level, but not his strength or his BBIQ.
Quinton Ross: Didn't see him at all. Toenail issue.
Brian Zoubek: Didn't see him. He's had a bad back.
Ben Uzoh: Looked nervous out there. He missed a number of shots, a few of them open. Needs some confidence...will probably get more time Sunday vs. Maccabi Haifa.
Travis Outlaw: We're sure he'll be fine, really, but he didn't show much on Thursday night. If there was a disappointment, it was Outlaw. Needed to be more aggressive, show why the Nets invested $35 million in him.
Johan Petro: As we've long said, the difference between a Knick fan and a Net fan is this: the Knicks sign a 24-year-old Russian seven footer to a three year $10 million contract and their fans think he's the savior of the franchise. The Nets sign a 24-year-old French seven-footer to a three year, $10 million contract and their fans think he's the ruination of the franchise. Petro looked very good considering expectations. Showed good hands, good interior defense and will be at least serviceable as Lopez's replacement. The big surprise...in spite of what Hollinger says ("He isn't any good").
Jordan Farmar: We weren't surprised by Farmar. Maybe we should have been, but he is a winner and a solid citizen who freed from the restrictions of the triangle may turn out to be a very solid back-up (or more). He hit two three's, the only one of Da Bomb Squad who did. More importantly, he seemed very secure and confident (two NBA rings will do that for you). He twice got the ball to Favors in the right place at the right time and hit Lopez with an over the shoulder blind pass.
Anthony Morrow: All his shots seemed to go in and out. Had an off night. Moved around without the ball. Didn't play a lot. Would like to see more of him and we expect we will. Keep shooting, Amo.
Troy Murphy: Didn't play, groin strain. Won't play Sunday either.
Stephen Graham: Kept turning to the person next to me and saying, "he is one big guy". He's 6'6" tall and about 6'7" wide. He moves well without the ball and can handle it a bit too. He was a point guard in high school. Looked more like a middle guard.
Eddie Gill: On his eighth tour with the Nets. Never say never, but Gill plays at the position where the Nets are strongest, with Harris, Farmar, Williams and Uzoh all capable of handling the point. Nice player, but unlikely to make it unless Harris heads south or west.
Overall: more positives than negatives, but we left wondering who is the Nets go-to scorer? Is it Harris, Lopez...or Anthony.
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good summary
this is what I’ve been hearing as well. Morrow being a shooter will have nights like that. Outlaw just probably has to get used to the system some more but this guy can play. As far as the go to guy, I think it will be more like when JKidd was here..there was no go to guy but JKidd dominated the ball..much like CP3, Rondo, ect. Harris will have the ball in his hands..Avery has already said that as well. but Lopez will get the most touches after that obviously..I like the make up of the team.
Im also thinking Uzoh may not be NBA ready. he didnt play that good in summer league and he struggled to hit open shots last night. Eddie Gill may have a chance to make the team..he probably deserves it. Graham and Zoubek are keepers IMO Zoubek is another big body that can rebound and defend and Graham can be insurance at the SF spot
Thanks for the pic NI and Netsdaily
pumped about seats for this season. Behind the basket but still close, and a good price wanted to know if there was any objection to posting a way to give away the seats i don’t use (For Free) or if that conflicts with site rules.
I don’t know, something like post of the day, or most rec’d comment of the week, trivia etc.
good summary guys
I think that for right now, unless Harris becomes unstoppable or Williams’ adds dominant scoring to his vast array of skills, Lopez will have to be the go to guy
dump the ball down to him in the 4th and let the defenses react.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
maybe it's just a matter of taste
but i like a guy that can put it on the floor and attack w/ the ball in his hands at the end. that’s no knock against lopez. could see devin/farmar/twill running a set play for morrow, outlaw and then ad-libbing if things break down
imagine something extremely witty here
Are you serious? I watched every single game the past 2 seasons, and his game closely since I had him on my fantasy squad both years. Never have I thought Brook Lopez and “go to guy” in the same sentence… unless its "boy Brooke Lopez sure aint a go to guy. When he learns to not force up shots on 3 defenders I may be willing to live with that, but it has yet to ever happen. Not saying it wont, or he cant learn, it is new coaching, but I wont believe it until it happens.
great write up about Petro too
the complaints about his signing are so overblown.
"Anthony Randolph has hall of fame skills" - GALLO!
by MrDollarBills on Oct 1, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
When you say “we” are you referring to you and NetsDaily? It is not clear. Also, you never mention any divergence of opinion. Do both of you think as one?
by ispartan on Oct 1, 2010 4:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Now that I really look at our squad
Thank God we have Hump, I can see Murphy for some reason getting nicked up a lot this season, and although Hump likes to shoot it (can hit that shot by the way), I think Avery will calm him down. But bottom line is that he’s good for Favors showing him in the weight room, and battling him everyday hardening our young rook up. One things for sure Hump won’t back down when we play them Miami boys or anybody else a good guy to have off the bench.
You can tell its 1 of the newer arenas I was there a year ago
Opposing players when they come there will most definitely notice a difference, bloggers who talk smack about us will have to eat their words about the Newark arena.
I haven't been there yet
Looking forward to going in December when they play the Thunder.
"Call me Snake"
Architecturally, it's not much
but inside it’s very nice. It’s not the Amway Center in Orlando (although there are already complaints about it having too few bathrooms…like eight for 19,000 people)
That's good
Out of all the arena’s I’ve been to, Canseco in Indianapolis is still my favorite. A true throwback.
"Call me Snake"
The arena is awesome
Wow, the Nets should have been playing here years ago.
Section 129 2010-2011 @ the ROCK
no go to scorer…maybe lopez?
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
Ah, the myth of the go-to scorer
Maybe we could play 5-man basketball rather than Space Jam.
by calling all toasters on Oct 1, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hear you but
Its not really a myth all great teams have a legit guy to give the ball to in the closing seconds last year guys were just passing the basketball around looking lost.
You mean Robert Horry?
How do we get our Big Shot Bob? Because that ain’t Melo. The MJs and Kobes and Melos are the go-to guys in part because they’ll be impossible to deal with if they aren’t given the ball when they can personally ‘win the game.’ But good teams without primadonnas look for the open man.
by calling all toasters on Oct 1, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Robert Horry was effective because he played with some of the greatest players to ever play the game.
Do you think if you put Horry on the Nets last year he would be hitting those shots? He played with Hakeem, Drexler, Kobe, Shaq ,Duncun etc. Horry is a product of the Hall of Famers around him, Avery is saying Outlaw might be the guy but you remember when we had VC, all those games he won for us at the end of the shot clock at Utah at home against Atlanta, imagine what our record would have been like without him. I mean go to guys are important, doesn’t mean their prima donnas I would love to have D-wade on my team, doesn’t mean being a go to guy means disrupting the team game not everyone is Iverson.
Exactly. Clutch shooting on good teams is a product of team play; on bad teams it’s the product of the go-to guy.
by calling all toasters on Oct 1, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
…and the Nets problems were due to not having any coach or any plays. If that’s where we are headed again, then, yeah, Melo would be a big improvement.
by calling all toasters on Oct 1, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Melo still isn't a number one
guy that can lead a team. Although he can carry a bulk of the scoring load. That is it.
Well, that’s my point. On an absolutely terrible, disorganized team, he would be the one positive. On an excellent team he lowers offensive efficiency by shooting all the time. And he takes his teammates out of the game. So: fine for a bad team, not so much for a good team.
by calling all toasters on Oct 1, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
players like Duncan (4 rings), Kobe (5 rings), Shaq (4 rings), Jordan and Pippen (6 rings) are mythical figures.
Horry is not a go-to player. He’s a clutch shooter. Those other guys are the go-to guys.
No
Those are great players on great teams. Jordan was the go-to guy for his first few years: they’d give the ball to Jordan and clear out. Coincidentally (I am sure) the Bulls were unsuccessful in the playoffs those years. When the Bulls were great, the important shots were taken by Jordan or Grant or Pippen or Paxson or Armstrong or Kerr or Kukoc or Jud Freaking Buechler. Because great teams don’t run the “let’s give it to our star” play, unless that star is a big.
And that is why great teams never feature chuckers.
by calling all toasters on Oct 1, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
...will be the youngest Net ever, by about six months, if he survives the Carmelo Anthony rumors.
He will be! It’s over, guys! If Denver wanted, if Melo wanted – this trade would have gone down already. It’s obvious Denver isn’t enamored with Favors and Melo with New Jersey. In the light of Knicks picking up 1st rounder (and I believe they will) Melo will fulfill his wish to play for the Knicks. So be it.
We gotta move on and enjoy our PF Monster grow!
God I hope u're right
Billy! Don’t TRADE FAVORS! WE WANT A MONSTER FRONT COURT! We have a brilliant core of BL,DF,TW. DON’T MESS IT UP BILLY!
i complete agree…although we might be wrong…
Denver wanted, if Melo wanted – this trade would have gone down already.
Favors is supposedly the center piece in a trade for melo..
Lets say Favors plays like a bust…why would denver want him?
Lets say Favors exceeds expectations….why would we trade him?
i believe once favors plays a game…i’ll be too late to trade him.
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
The middle ground is more likely and he can also look average but show great upside.
Proky would trade the future for the ability to do better over the next 5 years (The Russian 5 year plan).
However, as I said from the beginning, Favors only needs to be used to get Denver’s interest. Both sides have reasons to procrastinate. As long as Favors doesn’t look like a Bust (which he apparently didn’t yesterday against Petro), the Nets are in control.
The Denver reporters say that things are settling down in Denver, and Melo could easily stay for a while.
Perhaps the message has gotten to Melo, that he is better off delaying. It is in his interest not to go to a team that is depleted of both Favors and Harris.
i know its just practice but favors did very well…i dont see nets trading him
"I want to win, I want the team to win and I'm in complete control."
-Coach Avery Johnson.
But I see Nets "dangling" his talents while Denver ignores trade requests for Melo from other teams.
Nets should play Favors as much as possible against the 2nd unit, to both give him confidence and increase his production. I’m sure Favors would do better against Petro rather than Lopez.
About that go-to scorer?
Who was the go-to scorer when we went to the finals. We put the ball in Kidd’s hands and let him make a play. Why can’t Harris do the same thing? Defense will determine our fate.
J-Kidd is a hall of Famer Dude
I don’t think people realize how good kidd was, his will on games was ridiculous.
yep
even if the play got busted, he was in there before everyone else getting the rebound
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
Amen
Getting the best shot opportunity is where it’s at, not giving it to the 45% shooter that everyone knows is going to put it up.
by calling all toasters on Oct 1, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
How about this
With game 7 of the finals on the line, the go-to scorer, one of the best of all-time clutch shooters, shot 5-24 (or something like that) and his team won b/c they could play D. Our go-to scorer idealy should be Lopez b/c he takes the highest pct shot,
J Kidd was our go to everything. Scorer, passer, boarder… watch some old highlights, he hit more then one behind the back shots in big situations. Circus style. Incredible, that he looked like he knew exactly what he was doing on those. Lets not forget the high scoring epic battle between he and Nash.
More than a go-to scorer,
Every good team needs a go-to PLAYER. e.g. Jason Kidd, Rajon Rondo.
Videos of the Open Practice
Are there any videos of the open practice other than the one w/ Jac?
I ended up missing the practice.
Nice
I’m glad you used Brook’s REAL nickname!
"A little boy went out to play. When he opened his door, he saw the world. As he passed through the doorway, he caused a reflection. Evil was born. Evil was born, and followed the boy."
Terrance Dunk Contest
i had a chance to talk to T-Will last night. i asked him if he was gonna join the dunk contesr and he said " i’ll do it if Brook does." lol
I’m happy with our “core” guys did. Devin. Brook, Terrence, Derrick Favors, and for some reason Damion James. Sure, we didn’t see much but i think those natural desires- to get big and to learn the game- are imperative to being successful. I mean look at the greats in any sport, from Kobe to Jeter to Brady to MJ
I can't wait to get 2k11
I am going to start with “THE CORE”.
Devin Harris, Terrence Williams, Damion James, Derrick Favors, Brook Lopez
And IMO One if not thee Strongest bench in the league.
Jordan Farmar, Anthony Morrow, Travis Outlaw, Troy Murphy, Johan Petro
And third Stringers
Ben Uzoh, Quinton Ross, Stephen Graham, Kris Humpries, Joe Smtih
And I have a very important question from me that I would like some fans answerd im having doubts on “THE CORE” Again this is 2k11 so should I start “THE CORE” of
Terrence Williams , Anthony Morrow, Damion James, Derrick Favors
or
Devin Harris, Terrence Williams, Damion James, Derrick Favors, Brook Lopez ???
Any ideas
Bench would be
Jordan Famar, Devin Harris, Travis Outlaw, Troy Murphy, Johan Petro without a doubt best bench in the league or…
Jordan Farmar, Anthony Morrow, Travis Outlaw, Troy Murphy, Johan Petro
Quienten Ross???
hes had a toenail issue for like a week now? a toe nail?? what kind of injury is that is he on strike or getting bought out?
Does anyone know when the Amway Center was Certified by the NBA?
We have been told that a new Arena is supposed to get Certified by July if opening for the new NBA season.
Yet, we know that during the Orlando summer games, the Amway Center was still under construction, with scaffolding visible on the outside.
The Amway Center is the best example of what to expect during the summer before Barclay’s is set to get NBA approval in less than 2 years.
I think there’s an article in the opp blog about that..
I React
I Criticize
I Idolize
by silenthero07 on Oct 1, 2010 11:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks For the Report
As more and more of these reports come out, I, as many here are, am becoming reluctant to trade Favors. he looks like a very special player.
On another note, I was watching this movie Pandorum yesterday which is pretty cool if you’re into sci-fi horror stuff like Alien.
Anyway, in the movie, the commanding officer of the ship was suffering from something called Pandorum.
The symptoms caused him to experience hallucinations. He also became delusional and out of touch with reality. He did not have a grip on the real world.
Honest to God, the name of the commanding officer was…Gallo.
We’re looking at hiring the Red Army choir to perform at half-time along with Russia’s top dancing bear collective
Did they charge for this?
I saw something that said you had to get tickets on the web site. Just wondering …
FREE
not "that" Jersey Shore...Point Pleasant, 10 refreshing miles north of Seaside.
by John at the Jersey Shore on Oct 1, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
are they going to have the table seating for Nets games?
i got to a couple Devils games last season (the one when the lights went out half-way through the game) and then another for free (because the lights went out half-way through the game)…
either way
we had he table seats on the upper concourse level. good view. thought it would be perfect for basketball games though
Favors, Arena and go to scorer
-Agreed with everyone’s assessment that Favors played well enough to be optimistic of the future or at least increase our trade leverage. One issue, he looks like he should be in better conditioning for such a young man.
-Twill do not include in any trade…Farmar makes Harris dispensable to a certain extent…Brook stil looks not fully from mono…Humphries all over the court active…..
-Arena looks gréât day and night comparison to Izod…although a décent Walk from Penn station…any chance of shuttle bus and designated trains to and from NYC similair to thé bus in time s square
-go to scorer definitely lacking on the team but Outlaw has the history from his days in Portland at end of quarter/game and Brook has thé potential but needs to get stronger and More polish post m oves.
don't trade favors!!!
don’t trade anyone at all.. for now at least..
Great quote from AJ in Ben Couchs report
"I like that the guys are very attentive and that they’re coachable. We have a chance to be a decent, decent defensive team. We have a chance. We still don’t take enough charges. We don’t block enough shots, but we’ll get there. We have a chance."

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