Nets Trading Najera for Humphries, Releasing Sean and Shawne Williams

Yes

“To Release Sean and Shawne Williams”-what are the odds of that?

anyway getting rid of najera is HUGE! I expect kris to have minutess backup up yi…lets see what he does.

He’s a bum

kris humphries mix on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebl60TnFipU

what impact does this have on our committed salary for next year, i.e. ability to get FA’s?

Woj reports the Nets are trying to trade Boone as well.

If Humphries is a bum then Najera is a corpse. I will take this gift of being able to get rid of Eddie Najera. Let him enjoy his early retirement on Cuban’s dime. I expect Humphries to backup both Yi and Lopez…and if he plays well enough I wouldnt be surprised if he becomes trade bait himself. Nets still have an eye on clearing a few more million in cap space for next offseason.

This just makes my night better then it just was nice

so that means we have a roster spot open. i feel a big trade coming soon..
http://twitter.com/cdouglasroberts read his coment bout trade

I, for one, believe the NETS are going to regret releasing Sean Williams. Regardless of his youth, the team never gave this guy a chance to show his true skills and mark my words it will come back to haunt them. Some team is going to give him a chance and he will shine when given that opportunity.

Great Move given the circumstances. BTW we got robbed a win tonight, there was no foul on YI

adam swat has nothing…

This really does make me happy. Both Williams’ are thugs and crappy players. I do wish our Sean luck though. I do not know how Shawne is in the nba. Whatever I hated najera so I am happy. This means we have an open roster spot again?

Andy,

How would we know that? Has the guy ever been given a chance to start a game, let alone play more than ten minutes or less per outing? I recognize that he was never going to get the chance with our team, yet it is simply a shame.

I’d also like the team to actually take a look at Shawne Williams. The guy can play and he would be far less worse than some of the duds we do have. What do we have to lose?

SWAT will not come back to haunt anybody, but he does deserve a chance to play somewhere else- maybe he will get it together. I hope he does well.

@matt what kind of big trade do you envision?

@ andy I feel the same way

Humphries is 24 years old who has backed up Boozer in Utah, Bosh in Toronto and Nowitzki in Dallas.

lol, so does this mean Yi is in the same class as above?

I meant @ adam the nets are going to kick themselves in the ass for releasing sean

getting rid of najera is awesome…no one can complain about this trade.

mav fans are probably ???? just like we were when the nets signed him.

This is a COUP. I can’t believe that the Nets found a sucker er hem taker for Najera. This is GREAT NEWS folks

Any chance for the 9th spot?

Hollah!!!!

Some of you here are going to wish humphries get traded or bought out book it.

Now the Alston/Quinn deal makes more sense.

The Nets have to buy out Shawne Williams and pay Sean Williams the rest of the season.

By dumping Alston, the Nets saved $1 million and the Heat agreed to pay the Nets $640,000, the equivalent of what Quinn was owed. They also save about $60,000 net on Najera for Humphries.

You could also make the case that this is a delayed benefit of the Carter trade. The Nets used one of the two trade exceptions from the Carter trade to facilitate the Quinn trade and part of the other exception to facilitate the Shawne Williams part of the deal. I suspect that the Mavs will get something else in this deal, just as the Heat got that hyper-protected Nets second round pick.

“Adam Says:
January 9th, 2010 at 12:51 am

I, for one, believe the NETS are going to regret releasing Sean Williams. Regardless of his youth, the team never gave this guy a chance to show his true skills and mark my words it will come back to haunt them. Some team is going to give him a chance and he will shine when given that opportunity."

SWAT has shown nothing in 3 seasons that would make me balk at the idea of the Nets releasing him. He has never improved any aspect of his game. He was a blown draft pick, period.

Best case scenario is sean williams is a 9th man on a team and has some nice games. The more likely scenario is he is out of the league after a short stint with 1 team.

NI,

Get some sleep…

@Andy
SLEEP!?

I’m waiting for the late returns from Dallas!!!

I guess the Nets could release Quinn, but that would leave them with Terrence “Sleepy” Williams as the third point guard.

All kidding aside, in the past three days the Nets have traded Rafer Alston, 33; Eduardo Najera, 34; and Sean Williams, 22, for Chris Quinn, 26; Shawne Williams, 23 and Kris Humphries, 24.

By the end of the day, after releasing the two reprobate Williams, they will have only 14 players on the roster, leaving the possibility of another trade.

Its a blowout sale, and the Nets are the TJ Maxx of the NBA

simmons in a 1 for 2 deal maybe….maybe not

I think someone will give Sean a chance. If he had a pass first pg he could be better. Maybe the hornets or the jazz will take him

NO ONE will take him. People keep forgetting he still has a felony charge hanging over his head.

I’m not sure how this Dallas can think this makes them a better team so I have no idea why they would make this trade.

Good trade for the Nets. Humphries is a better player than Boone in every way and should replace him in the rotation. It will be interesting if Humphries can maintain his energy level and stay out of foul trouble with the increased minutes he’s sure to get on the Nets. His per 36 minute numbers have been quite good for the last 3 or 4 years.

As for Sean Williams, he played 18 mpg in 73 games as a rookie and 3 years later he still has no value other than a shot blocker. To say he never got a chance is just not true.

Kudos to the Nets. It’s time to clean house.

trade everyone

@Tin Man
It’s a salary dump…Marc Stein of ESPN said earlier today the main reason they were interested in moving Humphries and Williams was to reduce their luxury tax bill, which is enormous.

It also gives them some roster flexibility.

does humphries have an expiring contract?

@ NI

I understand that it is a salary dump but since when does Cuban care about paying the luxary tax? His team has the 2nd best record in the west and his team isn’t getting any younger. You would figure he would be trying to make his team better instead of looking to dump salary.

@ tu vieja

No, he has an option for 3.2 million for next year. But who knows, if he gets minutes and produces he may choose to opt out.

GREAT!! now maybe someone will get a rebound!

It’s roster tweaking, or maybe just a little more. These moves are not going to win any more games for us, really. This is not to say that I am not glad (double negative) to see Najera leave, he is washed up. What all of you missed, is Mark Cuban wanting Najera so that he has someone on his bench who knows how to give a foul in a playoff game!!!!!

@Paul

I guess Antoine Wright is the reason behind this trade then. I always knew drafting him would payoff somehow!

This is a start. Too bad Simmons’ contract is too big for anyone to take.

@Chris2

Great way to look at this trade to Dallas,THANKS!

Maybe Dallas will sign Sean? He was a promising rookie up until the point Kidd was traded.

I hope we keep Dooling! Great veteran pg.

good luck Sean, you are good players, i will always love you

We can’t release Sean Williams! He would’ve been a shoe in for the hall of fame already if it wasn’t for Frank! lol

On the flip side, can we all agree that this wasn’t all frank’s fault? A lot of good your fire frank suggestions did us, real stroke of genius.

that nate robinson trade would have been a good deal for us. nate and courtney lee coming off the bench along with darko to back up lopez.

oh well.

Sean hasn’t shown much progress in the past 3 years. And since we don’t see the players in and out every day like the coaching staff and management, I’m sure he was even worse than he appeared. They definitely made a good call in my book.

-Nicebull, I get the same impression of Dooling… all around pro, solid d, runs the offense. If it were my team to coach I would have him start over Harris and have TWill start over Lee as well.

I think if we gave Twill 30 minutes a game, for good or bad in this lost season, we could make and quicker assessment that we did with Sean Williams. If he can’t hack it after a solid season of play then make a move.

I was totally expecting Lee would have more nights like last night after acquiring him. He’s been a bust so far and I don’t know how long management is going to give him. He is just awkward- too small, poor d, weird form to his shot, poor shot selection.

maybe we can flip boone to portland? with both oden and pryz gone they could use a backup big.

Missed in all this is the Nets willingness to take on salary and cut players to get a decent young big.

Proky’s fingerprints are all over this trade. And I like Humphries more than Ryan Anderson.

This is a great deal I’d say. Sean was a screwjob in the locker room. Nice guy, funny, but just a nut.
Notice how Stein (on his Twitter) or Woj mentioned that the Nets are trying to get rid of the most disgruntled veterans…and that Josh Boone has been shopped around for a while now. I expect Josh and Bobby Simmons (possibly together, hopefully) to be traded next. I don’t see Dooling, Hayes, or Hassel being traded this season. We need SOME vets and those are all top notch, good classy guys on and off the court. (as was Eddie, at least off the court, but his contract said otherwise) .

Overall, I wake up happy to this news.

David Says:
“Proky’s fingerprints are all over this trade”.

I guess Proky blinked his right eye twice, for YES. LOL

“For Whom the Bell Tolls”… Next up Boone.

Can Dooling, and T-Will be far behind?

I recognize that Humphries will add an element to our team that we are sorely missing (hustle, rebounding and just maybe, some scoring from the backup PF spot). I am still somewhat disappointed in letting Sean go. “Tin Man” mentioned he played 18MPG in his rookie season and if I recall he did a pretty good job while on the court. Maybe it was Kidd propping him up a bit, yet to receive the little playing time he has received is a travesty and one that once again, we will regret down the road.

I would let go of Quinn rather than letting Sean go and give any minutes Quinn would have received to Terrance W. Sad to say, yet I believe Terrence is on his way to be viewed as another Sean W. if we do not properly engage him on the court at the present time.

“Disgruntled vets” may also include Devin Harris, since the Nets’ main priority is to get Yi and Brook on the same page. Trust me, IF the Nets get Wall Harris is a goner.

It’s strange to see Mark Cuban worried about money.

I guess Proky threw him some loose change.

If Mark Cuban is “worried” about costs you can bet there are many other, poorer owners who might start having fire sales.

Who knows what “star” players might become avaiable if the Nets are willing to pick up the tab.

And the Nets have the money, billions and billions. LOL

Welcome aboard Proky.

NBA luxury tax… Proky will consider that “tipping” money.

We are going to be paying Shawne Williams already, thus why not attempt to use him the rest of the season to assess whether or not he possesses the skills necessary to help our team? We can always cut him if it does not work out and it seems that he and CDR are close with one another.

@Adam;

  Maybe CDR and T-Will are next to go. I don’t think Proky is going to put up with “head cases” or potential “head cases”. Being “close” to Shawne Williams would raise a “red” flag to me. Proky will be the only one allowed to raise the “red flag”. LOL

With all his money and connections, Proky doesn’t have to put up with any misfits or “problem players”… They play “hardball” in Russia.

I can see where you are coming from Mike, yet didn’t we just offer a deal to the Knicks for Nate Robinson? He is just as much a headcase and malcontent as these other players.

@Adam;

 Yeah, your right. We probably won’t know if that offer was for “real”, and if it was for real, what was Nets management thinking. I for one thought that it would be crazy to bring Nate on to this team.

All joking aside about Proky, we do not really know if Thorn, Kiki and Ratner are giving the orders or taking them at this point?

I just hope Nets fans don’t put to much pressure on, and expect too much, from Kris Humphries.

So the Nets are looking at the D-League for talent…

…if we can get Boone to go, will it be the return of Boom Tho!?

(Excerpt from Nets are Scorching Web Page) Here’s ESPN’s John Hollinger scouting report on Humphries, before the season started:

Humphries has two major weaknesses. First, he’s a selfish offensive player who forces shots. Even though he can score, he too often flings quick jumpers and breaks plays, especially when he catches in the high post area. He shoots the ball like it’s contagious, flicking it from in front of his face within nanoseconds of picking up his dribble. The result is usually a low liner into the front rim. He can finish and draw fouls around the basket and is an impressive offensive rebounder, but he doesn’t earn brownie points with the coaches when he lets it rip off the dribble from 15. Also, he needs to improve his foul shooting (58.5 percent career).

The other weakness is his defense. Humphries has a strong build but is undersized for a 4 at 6-foot-8, and his effort is inconsistent. He keeps gambling by trying to steal post entry passes instead of playing solid D behind his man, and with his quickness he should be a better pick-and-roll defender.

@Andy;

 After viewing that Kris Humphries video on YouTube, I would say that he’s headed for the Hall of Fame… LOL

He does look strong and active. Finishes real strong.

As long as he plays hard and smart, that all I ask for.

“Humphries has two major weaknesses. First, he’s a selfish offensive player who forces shots”

“Enough said, your hired”. Sounds like Kris will have no problem fitting in on this Nets team. LOL

Those scouting reports always sound really positive or really negative. His sounded in between.

I guess we will find out pretty soon ourselves.

Last night Yi made two stupid fouls and was pushed out of the paint (he was out of position, too) with minimal force, leading to an offensive rebound and easy dunk. That will NOT happen with Humprhies. He will be there at the end and excert muscle, force, presence. Thorn has been looking for a muscle guy or mule inside for a year. This may not be the best match, but it is better than Yi and Boone.

Good for Najera. He can play some significant minutes for a good team. His hustle and disruptive play will be much appreciated on a team that does not rely on him to score.

Hey, can someone please wake up Net Income. I want to hear his analysis of what is going on.

@Yao
Sounds like you and Yi had similar nights.

@Mike
Been up since 5:45!

http://www.netsdaily.com/blog/?p=1824

Nets tried to get Humphries when he was with Toronto.

Still dont know what else are sending the Mavs. Deal is structured in two pieces: Najera for Humphries and Shawne Williams for $2.46 million of the trade exception and…
You have to send something—cash, draft pick, swap of picks, draft rights—beyond the exception. In the Quinn deal, it was the ridiculously protected 2010 second round pick. I should also note the Nets have more picks the next three years than any NBA team…and the Mavs have the fewest. Wouldnt be surprised if that newly acquired pick from the Heat goes west.

Thanks Net Income, I should of known better.

P.S. I hear sleeping is really overrated any way. LOL

“Sources said that the Nets thus continue to explore their trade and buyout options with several players on their bench — Josh Boone, Tony Battie, Keyon Dooling and Trenton Hassell are among those that have been shopped recently — to open up roster spots for fresh blood from the D-League. "

WTF? So we are trying to unload good vets to free up roster space and bring in DLeague scrubs???? Give me a break. I guess they really do want to finish with the worst record. KD, Josh, Trent, those are solid vets who play hard and help those kids. I think KD and Josh are gone for sure. Apparently, they want to move Josh to “save money”, LOL. Hope we can still somehow keep Trent.

And swapping Najera for Humphries is a GREAT move.

“The News also reported "New Jersey’s ownership change could also have an impact on discussions about the deal" although all the other reports indicate the teams have reached a verbal commitment”.

Does this really mean anything and if yes, what???

Getting rid of D league level players to bring in true D league players. Kiki is a genius.

@soul driver

Good Rod Benson AKA Boom Tho reference!

We should pick up this guy from the D League. He’s a good rebounder, gives great energy and writes amazing blogs (though he’s taking a blog hiatus until he gets to the NBA).

Rod Benson played for our summer league team a couple years ago and played well. We are 3-33; we have nothing to lose….except for a few more games. Let’s take a chance on this kid.

Let’s go Nets!

Great move!

lmao…Dleague??? WTF

NI doesnt sleep…he doesn’t have too…he can’t be a regular human because he’s a netsdaily.com mod.

The only real problem I have with this proposed deal is Humphries first name, Kris… Couldn’t he have it changed to “Butch” or “Rocco”. How about Thumper Humphries?

Trenton Hassell for Adam Morrison seems like it fits the mold of trading an older veteran for a scrappy young white guy.

We may be stockpiling picks, but we are also stockpiling Chris’s (or Kris if you want to get fancy with it) .

dirt do you really want him on your team? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSlA2yb-I4A

Rod Benson? Why not just sign The Professor? That boy has mad handles!

@Dirt,

 Can AK-47 be far behind…

For those who care about such things…

At the pre-draft camp in 2004, Humphries was measured at 6’9.5" in sneakers, 6’8.25" in bare feet. His vertical leap was measured at 38". His wing span was measured at 7’0.5" and his maximum reach at 11’10.5". He was rated the 4th best athlete in the camp, after Nate Robinson, Kirk Snyder and Tony Allen.

Tony Battie for Darko would be another similiar move.

@ Andy…

Any soldier who can sneak behind enemy lines and infiltrate the enemies celebration to obtain vital information is someone I want on my side.

btw thomas was trying to hifive humphries…

Getting rid of najera is a HUGE win for us, no doubt. He did not do anything positive on the court, and was always Injured. Out of all our vets I would keep KD, Purple Hayes, and Tennessee. The rest can go.

for average measurements by position…

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=avepos&year=All

Josh Boone for Joe Alexander?

I have a gut feeling that KD, Hayes, Boone, Simmons and Hassel, and maybe Harris, will all be gone by next season.

The orders from the “Kremlin” must of been issued last week. “Clean house at once, or else”.

i like boone, kd, and hassell. although harris has been playing very poorly, he still needs a shot.

if we really wanted alexander couldnt we use a trade exception?

Old Russian proverb; “Don’t put new wine into old bottles”.

I think Nets management has decided having so many young players starting, and veterans sitting on the bench, has not worked well for team chemistry.

I think they will get rid of the vets and acquire more young talent. Better for team chemistry in long run.

Are future veterans will probably be in the starting rotation anyway, thru free angency and/or trade.

Glad to see Sean go. For all of you who say he was never given a chance, I wonder whether you know that the Nets have this thing called “practice” where the coaches have the players run through plays and see how they are developing.

Not sure about Eddie. He never really played here, so I wonder what the Mavs think they are getting from him.

I don’t know what the Nets will do about Devin. We can’t count on winning the lottery, so we can’t trade him now. But he’s playing incredibly uninspired ball and I think Kiki lost him within the first game of his coaching stint.

At this point, even if there is just a bunch of churn for equivalent type players, it at least gives us something to talk about and be excited about. Certainly can’t be excited about our record.

Mike Says:
January 9th, 2010 at 10:06 am
The only real problem I have with this proposed deal is Humphries first name, Kris… Couldn’t he have it changed to "Butch" or "Rocco". How about Thumper Humphries?

Lol, is it just a coincidence that the players acquired are named Chris and Kris? I will let others decide.

@Ispartan;
 
 And the players beening cut are Sean and Shawne… Very weird..

Plus their last names are both Williams… twilght zone time..

We also traded away Sean Bradley and never went for Shawn Kempe. This must be why SWat was never given a chance.

Adam Says:
January 9th, 2010 at 12:51 am
I, for one, believe the NETS are going to regret releasing Sean Williams. Regardless of his youth, the team never gave this guy a chance to show his true skills and mark my words it will come back to haunt them. Some team is going to give him a chance and he will shine when given that opportunity.

The only way the Nets will regret releasing Sean is if he comes to the front office and destroys all their pc monitors. Maybe the reason for the Shawne Williams cut is that Sean will be momentarily confused thinking it was the other Williams that was cut.

“Maybe the reason for the Shawne Williams cut is that Sean will be momentarily confused thinking it was the other Williams that was cut”.

LMAO. It will probably take SWAT several days of confusion to figure out what went down. He probably will still come to practice and not know the difference.

I was watching Sean during a timeout a few games back. There was a promo on the Tron showing several of the Nets in animation. Sean stood with his head tilted to one side on his hand watching it and laughing.

Now all we have to do is somehow get of Terrence Williams.

Nothing personal, but these Williams’s are haunting us for years now.

@Ispartan;

 Yeah I know what you mean. There was always something “weird” about that kid, and it showed, especially in his facial expressions…

I wish him the best of luck. Sincerly…

@Ispartan

Yeah, some team in China. He’ll be able to put to 20/10 numbers there just like his doppleganger Stromile Swift is doing right now

nets fail sean williams. Dallas will most likely pick him up..

Wouldn’t that be the icing on the cake. Sean Williams goes to China and becomes more popular with the Chinese fans then Yi.

The Chinese then “write in vote” him into the NBA all-star game.

*note
The Nets gave their 2010 hyperprotected 2nd round pick to Miami. However, with yesterday’s loss, I have estimated that even if the Nets win every game for remainder of year, they keep their 2010 2nd round pick. What a relief!

So i havent been on here in a few days or kept up, but this is fantastic. No more Najera, this is a good day. I’m suprised anyone would trade for him at this point. I would have been happy trading him for a bag of cheetos let alone a back up power forward who can actually play a little.

Humphries is easily better then any big we have or had on the bench in a while. Now we need a big back-up center for Lopez and we can get rid of Boone who looks like he gets worse with every game he plays.

Swats probably sad that his 2 year vacation is coming to an end. He probably tells his coach that he watches alot of tape and goes home, lights up his bong and tells his friends he watched a good comedy, the Net game. If I was his friend, I’d tell him to clean up in China and play for them, win over a billion fans with a few wins over India and Australia and hire Fagan. Then you could come back to the NBA, dictate where you want to play but make sure the owner is broke and even if you suck and lose all the time, those fans in China will keep you employed. If you don’t suck, you’ll be right next to LeBron with a max contract and a global fan base.

at Ispartan:

“I, for one, believe the NETS are going to regret releasing Sean Williams. Regardless of his youth, the team never gave this guy a chance to show his true skills and mark my words it will come back to haunt them”

It is absolutely pathetic that the Nets are letting Sean go without giving him a chance – especially with absolute garbage collection we have at the power forward position. Other than Yi, due to his occasional offense no other PF should be getting minutes ahead of Sean on this team. At least he brings SOMETHING to the table.

This organization flat-out sucks at everything now.

If JKidd tells Mark Cuban that he can make SWat into a good player, then don’t count out his being picked up by Dallas.

I don’t think the felony charge amounts to anything that cause SWat to miss any games.

Afterall, wasn’t Mark Cuban’s charges more serious (insider trading) and is still being appealed by the Feds? That is why I hope Proky pushes for NBA approval ASAP, because its apparently much harder to remove an owner than to delay one from getting approved.

SWat’s problem is that he makes too many mistakes. He definitely has a “role” defending in the paint – causes lots of players to “alter” shots even if he doesn’t block them. However he can’t defend the perimeter. His offense inside of 8 feet is adequate. With his long arms, he had one of the best Nets dunks ever, recently, reaching out from 7 feet from the basket.

I don’t know anything about the locker room problems with SWat, but then I don’t respect Mark Stein’s anti-Nets reporting. SWat seems great on the bench, but just doesn’t have a serious attitude.

I’m glad this is official. Najera’s best days are behind him. We were hoping to get the player that he was back in Dallas, but that’s their problem again. Humphries should help on the boards

If Swat has that much skill and “potential”, 29 NBA teams will be lining up to get him… I doubt that will be the case.

@jerry25
If he is convicted or pleads guilty, he WILL be suspended and since we are talking about violence, he will be suspended by more than a few…and why after dumping Shawne Williams would Cuban bring in Sean Williams, who the Nets were desperate to get rid of.

@Andy
The TE is now down to $1.31 million. Joe Alexander makes $2.58 million. Boone makes $2.06 million. It’s VERY close as to whether that would under CBA.

I don’t think Swat is being cut by the Nets strictly on his playing abilities or lack of them.

He is a major “head case” and they don’t need the headaches.

There is probably a lot going on “behind the scenes” which we are not privy to.

There is no place for him on the Nets. Maybe he will blossom somewhere else… who cares…. Adios, goodbye, farewell…

You can’t combine trade exemptions with players right. It would have to be two seperate trades if Milwaukee wanted our trade exemption. In any case, I think Boone for Alexander does work straight up as long as Nets were willing to take on a little additional salary this season.

Dirt you used to post in prosportsdaily, right? a while ago though.

Humphries reminds me of a poor man’s Blake Griffin, which could be an indicator that Griffin will be a flop too.

Afterall, Humphries was #14 pick of the 2004 draft and Griffin, #1 of a bad draft class, and has turned out to be
injury prone.

More Humphries interviews (he likes to talk):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uymtZUpj7hM&NR=1

Humphries is said to be a poor FT shooter, but when I looked at his numbers since his first 2 year, especially 2007-8, when he had lots of attempts, I expect him to be close to 65% (if he gets big minutes). Compared to Boone, this is great.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kris_humphries/career_stats.html

@NI
I’ll bet there will be a plea bargain agreement to lesser charges with SWat.
I thought there was some story to that affect way back.

Cuban has experience going back to Dennis Rodman. All Rodman did was watch cartoons when Dennis stayed at his home. Same mentality as SWat.

If SWat wasn’t a problem in locker room, and roster spot was open with Kidd willing, I could see it as a low risk opportunity. But of course its not likely to happen as Mavs can wait for other options to develop.

DRAFT PICK ALERT:

Derrick Favors and Georgia Tech today at 2PM on ESPN!

Nets likely won’t get the 1st pick and The Great Wall.
Favors may be Nets pick, although I haven’t seen him play yet, this year.

Favors reminds me of Amare from his videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Od-U5IF4s

I wonder if he could be a backup Center (is he still growing?)

If it becomes a choice of Favors via draft or DLee via free agency, either way, Yi is playing no more than 25 mpg next year.

Good one Jerry…for those interested in monroe…he on espn now.

Georgia tech has played tough competition (at least no big name schools)…and will take on duke today…very interesting. lets see how favors performs…his stats arent mind blowing as of yet..lets see.

for guys who fail to understand Cuban’s reluctance to pay, it simple just because he has doesn’t mean he wishes to give away he would rather donate than pay a loser undeserving guy like Shawne Williams, letting Kris go is what is buying him the other part I see that as a very good move for both teams.

A note to all veterans who are complaining and the rookie who is acting as if he deserves minutes all of these guys need to take a look at Hassel, in his minnesota days he was one of the best defender’s in the league when he was acquired by our team his role was not guaranteed further in his position we have the most competition yet he has forced
his way into rotation under two coaches, the team plays much better when he is on court no question about it. In a lost cause when the coaches try to go over video sessions they need to be able to show how a mistake committed could have been avoided he is able to provide them with that footage. Professionalism and maximizing talent are virtues that guys like Boone, Swill and Simmons can learn to salvage what remains of thier careers, but more importantly Twill needs to learn that. 60 players are drafted every year before he knows he will be out of this league time is short and opportunities are few he better learn them fast.

Josh Boone, Dallas’ 1st, for jerry bayless. And then somehow get ride of Devin for an expiring

Is jerry25 high or something?

How can you even compare Kris Humphries to Blake Griffin when A. Blake Griffin hasn’t even played a single NBA game yet B. How much of Kris Humphries have you watched really? C. Blake Griffin was projected to be one of the top picks in the 2008 draft as well, I remembered reading about him then D. How is everyone labeling Blake Griffin an injury prone bust when he’s had 1 injury? Sure it’s a big one but that hardly counts as “prone” E. Blake Griffin averaged 22 and 14 in college and destroyed the competition in summer league. I think he’ll be fine.

Lately ive been thinking…all the youtube videos of favors are against players MUCH smaller then him.

Im afraid the hype couldve been because of his height advantage and not because of his skill.

Who do we hear about in college today? Wall, Wesley Johnson, and Turner before his injury. Favors not as popular…12ppg,8.8 rpg…i think he’ll need to show more to become the 2nd pick. just my opinion though.

@jerry25

Oh and the video you’re looking at is from his high school days. Everyone can look like the next Amare in their high school mixtape

@andy that’s because all the videos of favors on youtube is high school video. But yeah I want to see something more than athleticism from him, don’t wanna be picking the next tyrus thomas when we can have a more polished product

@ jerry25

I thought I saw a poster write that Swats legal issue was resolved but I could not come up with any proof. I believe when it is resolve with law enforecement and the league his opportunities and value will increase. Of course like all players (except for big time) he’ll have to prove himself on and off the court and with a low risk high reward possibilty people who recognize talent (like Thorn who drafted him) will give him a chance. Most of the stuff that happened with us I just chalk it up to the fact he didn’t want to be here since Kidd left and he didn’t handle it well.

@muwu
I didn’t say that Griffin could end up at Humphries level; Just that he may end up being a disappointment for a #1 pick in a poor draft, just as Humphries has become a disappointment for a #14 pick.

Griffin WAS impressive in preseason.
However, if Griffin does have more injuries, then all the Nets fans who were begging for Griffin last June will be glad it didn’t work out.

I don’t even hear anyone mentioning Griffin’s name for ROY when he could still dominate for more than 1/2 remaining of year if he plays up to expectations.

@ NetIncome

That was low and uncalled for! Have I insulted you? And the fact is I had a real good night. No fouls. I scored. I didn’t get pushed out of the paint! And most important: I’m on a winning team.

I find it incredibele that a trade of extermely fringe NBA players (Najera and Humpries) and the releasing of players who do not even belong in the NBA (the Williamses)gets this many responses.

Half of the responses are about how “good” Sean Williams is and how the Nets didn’t “give” him a chance. So misguided….Sean Williams made his bed, is sleeping in it, and he won’t be getting out of that bed either. He’s curled up in that bed with lots of money he never earned.

I think it’s better to have Humphries than any of the other junk involved. But it’s really not a big deal either way.

If Wall is not the pick, I bet it is Donatas Motiejunas from Lithuania. Proky would like that…

@jerry25
 That’s because he only has 3 months left and Tyreke Evans isn’t letting up anytime soon. 3 months of play isn’t going to beat a full season of good play and transformative effect on a team no matter how you look at it. He’d have to average 20 and 20 for those 3 months to overshadow Tyreke’s amazing rookie campaign so far

Mobile phone kiosk operators beware!!!

Hollah!!

If Wall is not the pick, and Minnesota gets the top pick, I think we will trade for Rubio.

Nooo not motiejunas. If Favors isn’t the pick then perhaps Ed Davis would be the next best pick, or if you don’t want someone else clogging up the paint since Brook might not be able to coexist with them, Evan Turner

Marc Stein of ESPN is a Nets-hating jerk.

He wrote that Nets were shopping ….. so that they could “open up roster spots for fresh blood from the D-League”.

Regarding getting rid of Dooling:
Both Dooling and expecially CLee were great last night (where are the CLee haters?).

I don’t doubt that Nets shopped Dooling. However, after getting rid of Alston, then I see no reason to continue to shop Dooling (other than that other teams would be requesting him).

Nets can always buy out Dooling for $500,000 so why in the world would they actively look to move him without getting something really good in return? Who else would be the Nets backup primary PG for remainder of this year (or next year if they don’t get Wall?).

Yes, Stein is a jerk who has no problem to cite outdated news to make it seem like it is current. Our own DaveD is MUCH more dependable as he broke the latest on Humphries story.

NI was wrong about this one because he earlier predicted that there was more chance to trade Dooling before Alston, even though Dooling was coming off surgery. Alston apparently was a problem in the locker room.

The reason it could be Donatas Motiejunas is obvious. An international player for an international team plus Proky does something for his part of the world.

Donatas Motiejunas is also considered a very talented prospect, 7 footer, who plays center and PF and who is rising in many mock drafts, top five pick in many.

He’s my pick as of now. We will find out in 166 days.

Who knows, we might even end up with Wall and Motiejunas.

Getting Wall with #1 pick, then trading up at the last minute and snaring Motiejuans.

We better hope that we get the top pick and Wall. Not sure that Monroe, Favors, Davis, etc are going to be top tier NBA 4s. At least not early on. I would rather see us use that Dallas pick on a hopefully dropping DeMarcus Cousins and play him with Wall….

This Humphries trade is nice. Dumping Najera was a great move. Signing him was the biggest bonehead move we ever made. Maybe we should start a THANK YOU CUBAN chant again for taking the worst player in the league off our hands.

I really do hope that we keep Boone. I think he could be a decent piece of the future of this team off the bench.

And I would really like to see us make a play at getting Joe Alexander – who Milwaukee clearly has no need for.

And if anyone believes the NBA corruption stories regarding who wins the lottery, David Stern might have a real incentive to make sure the Nets (worst team in the NBA) end up with the top pick to pair Brook Lopez and John Wall in Brooklyn. Give Brooklyn the top young PG/Center nucleus in the game. Imagine the marketing opportunities for the league and the new team in Brooklyn.

It’s scientifically impossible to rig the lottery. There is security and team representatives in the room when the drawing is done. The reason that it’s not done on live tv is because it would be incredibly boring. All the balls being thrown out because they match a team that has already been drawn would make for bad tv and then the critics who complain about it not being on live tv now would be complaining about what a pathetic, non ratings grabber for the league it is when it’s actually on. Catch 22 all the way.

wall, favors, wesley johnson, turner…those are my predictions.

will this trade rise our salary cap in 2010?

I just hope Nets fans aren’t putting all their eggs in one basket, hoping for John Wall to come save us.

Another draft watch game on tv right now – Texas is playing on YES. Damion James is a do it all type forward who would be a great pick in the 2nd round…Particularly if we manage to score a middle 2nd round pick in a a trade.

Imagine if the Nets end up with the 6th pick in the draft. I think some people might jump off the GW Bridge

Lets make believe Wall is not there and concentrate on other players in the draft. It’s more interesting and less disappointing that way.

Then if we do get Wall it will be extra special.

can i say something that no one else has really said?

DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE TRUE CENTER?

when brook is out we have back up pfs/c that play a little out of position. We need another BIG MAN for brook, cause boone or Kris aint going to cut it.

The question I have for NI or NetsDaily is whether by this deal are the Nets taking on new salary due to S. Williams’ 2.4 million salary?

If the Nets ARE taking on new salary does that mean that any trade with Ratner in control (according to the NBA) will be allowed, even before Proky is approved? This is important.

Does use of the trade exception to take S. Williams mean that the Nets are under the salary cap? and by how much?

All of this could affect Nets making another trade before Proky takes over, especially if Nets are under salary cap and still have 10 draft picks as assets.

@Ryan243;

 You should be doing the advance scouting for the Nets.

 Come draft day I expect you to be in that “War Room”
 helping out Nets management.

they could tape the actual lottery and stick it on nba.com after the results are announced to silence those who think it may be rigged, myself included. But it being rigged would be very good for us I think. No way we end up at #4.

@ Ryan243

The lowest possible pick we could end up with would be #4

Oh and people please no to Montiejunas. We basically have that project of a player in Yi. Plus, as I said he’s a project and not very developed. We need players to come in and be able to play.

@Pugsley – this is the Nets man. No such thing as (the lowest possible pick we could end up with would be #4) haha. if its possible for it to be screwed up – its possible with the Nets.

I just watched Damion James grab a 1 handed rebound, push the ball up the court, split 2 defenders and dish to a cutter on the left block. I have watched this kid play since his freshman season (he was a frosh with Durant) during the preseason Coaches vs Cancer tourney at the Garden. He is a great player. Leading rebounder in Texas history. 3rd all time in double doubles with 44 (with another in the making today) and 11th all time in scoring. This kid is undersized but is a player.

I see him as a more versatile Paul Millsap. If we got him in the 2nd round you guys would not be disappointed. My favorite 2nd rounder last year was Meeks (to the point people on here were asking if I was his agent). My top get in the 2nd round this year is Damion James. He is exactly the type of player this team needs on their bench. Plus he is a 4 year college player – which I think is always beneficial in rotation guys.

And agree with Pugsley on Montiejunas. I have never seen him play – but most European guys take at least 1 season, usually 2-3 to develop in the NBA. We can not afford to do that with our first round pick this year.

Alot of hype about Najeras defense……Everytime he guarded someone , he fouled them….He sure is not as quick as he used to be and he is always injured……What does Cuban see differently ?…..There go all of our mexican fans…….But we still have the chinese fans….

@JJ
I expect Kiki will be playing Battie exclusively as BLopez’ backup. Battie is too slow to use as PF, anyway, and I wish he would stop shooting from beyond 10 feet.

I assume if Boone is being shopped, its for another Big.
Boone would be Okay if he would play as well when given limited minutes and also if he improved to be a consistent 50% FT shooter (instead of 30%). I don’t see either happening.

Nets will have to throw in a draft pick to interest another team. Not sure what is the purpose to move Boone if he is expiring anyway, unless Nets can get back a decent Rookie contract to keep.

@Ryan
Pugsley is right. Worst team CAN’t can lower than 4th pick.
However, there is a 36% chance that the DO get the 4th pick, which isn’t fair.

http://www.insidehoops.com/nba_draft_lottery.shtml

Guys Favors does not look that good. Only game I have seen him play thus far – but he looks like a project at this point. The athleticism and size are there, but I would not say drafting him is the answer to our PF problems…

Favors on espn right now lol

We might as well get creative here with all the crazy trade ideas being posted…

Is there any way we could pull off…

Devin Harris, Josh Boone and a draft pick to Portland for Bayless, Blake and Outlaw. …?

I know I know, Harris is apparently off limits. Just having some fun.

people tend to forget. we signed najera OVER boki. So i’m glad he’s gone, even though he was a good character guy.

Favors looks horrible…but he can box out. Something no net can do.

Heres a couple trades to get rid of Boone:

Portland recieves: Boone
 Nets Recieve: Rudy Fernandez and Nick Batum

Sounds good to me. pick up outlaw in Fagency and well be set up the trailblazers literally…

Another trade not involving Boone could be:
Chandler for Lee and a 2nd rounder? I realy like COurtney lee’s approach to the game and his upside but…

Our roster would look like this:
Harris/Dooling
CDR/Fernandez
Chandler/Hayes/Batum
Yi/Humphries
Lopez/Battie

the extras: Twill Hassell quinn Simmons

I have seen Motiejunas play in last year’s Hoops Summit game when the international team beat the US handily…with Motiejunas leading the international team.

He was the second best player on the floor, after Wall…and that included Xavier Henry, John Hensen, Avery Bradley, DeMarcus Cousins and the dreadful Renardo Sidney.
He not played well. He led the team and hit clutch free throws at the end.

He is very thin and is having a harder time in Europe than expected, but he reminds a lot of people of Toni Kukoc.

Would I take him over Cole Aldrich? No. Derrick Favors? Maybe. Ed Davis? Yes.

Some video of the game, by Maxamillion…

http://www.maxamillion711.com/nikehoopsummit09recap.html

Sean Williams is NOT done in the NBA.
You cannot teach his kind of athleticism.
This guy is going to get picked up by somebody who has the patience to develop him.
This Nets may regret this.

@jerry25

Again, I didn’t say that Dooling would be first to go. Never said that. What I said is that Dooling has that $500,000 guarantee and if the Nets want to maximize their cap space, it would be smarter to dump Dooling. I like Dooling, but 1) his contract next season is $3.82 million. That’s 15% of the Nets cap space. 2) HE has said that some days he feels better than others and that he doesn’t expect to be back to full power til next season and 3) he underwent surgery for an arthritic hip joint. That’s serious for a 30 year old…as Dooling himself said, “very serious”.

If Alston was such a problem, why did Miami start him over Chalmers hours after he was signed?

@ Bruce – We basically tried to do that last year in order to get rid of Vince Carter and got laughed at.

A lot of people think this upcoming draft is John Wall or bust. I not sold on Wall just yet. If Motiejunas is considered in the same class as Favors, Ed Davis, and Aldrich the Nets will draft Motiejunas. Remember, you heard it here first.

Personally I would draft best player available. But Nets will try to address C/PF position and Motiejunas plays both.
Big men are hard to find. Little guys are a dime a dozen…

Plus Proky probably knows more about Motiejunas then he knows about all the college players in the NBA combined.

Added plus, Motiejunas most likely speaks Russian, like most people in Lithuania.

It’s important to look at ages when evaluating prospects as many players enter college older than you would think.

Favors and Henry are 18
Wall, Cousins and Motiejunas are 19
Davis and Warren are 20
Aldrich and Turner are 21
Wesley Johnson is 22

Favors and Henry are much better players as 18 yr old freshman than Aldrich and Turner were as 19 yr old freshman.

this news of najera for humphries made my day!
its funny 2 hear ppl say that SWAT wasnt given the opportunity to play 2 his potential.. he was n fouled out in 5 mins
As for 13yr old nets fan trade proposal:even thinking that the blazers would consider taking boone for Batum n Rudy is just crazy

Humphries is a good opponent comparison to Sean Williams.

We always like to draft a guy with “promising” potential, which is not always reliable. Sean Williams is very athletic, but he is very poor at skills.

Humphries is not as athletic as Sean, but he is much more skilled, and he can give you 8 points a night in 20 minutes, and does some dirty works.

He is not promising, but he will help you win games off the bench.

njn908,

I know…but maybe they get so weak up front cuz of injuries there forced to get a big man and boone is the onnyone available. i know its a strectch but…

I say a big trade including harris. The guy has got to go. We need a pass first point guard, not a selfish shoot and miss one. He has no type of shot and he’s always injured. After dooling’s showing last night he should be starting. Kiki should’ve never taken him out and put harris in.

Regarding Humphries and free agency, the trade raises the possibility of a significant increase in cap space. Humphries is due to make $3.2 million next season, BUT he has a player option.

As of now, the Nets have $24.9 million in cap space, assuming a $56 million salary cap. If Humphries opts out, that puts the number at $28 million. If the Nets dump Dooling, add another $500,000. His buyout is that much. The number is also affected by the salary of the draft picks…but not by much.

It’s unlikely Humphries will opt out, of course…but before that deal, there was no possibility.

Harris is a 2, we should never have brought back C Lee. We lost Anderson to do it. Bad move.

Nice. Humphries is a nic rbounder that the nets could sure use…
Najera was always injured… glad we made this move

Harris disappoints people, imagine if Lopez has CP3.

@ Mike
wish we had BUCK Williams back

Just look at the picture of Humprhies and above that of skinny, little Yi. Wow, if we could meld these two into one player, we’d have something!

I think we already have something in Yi.

i dont think we should move harris until Wall is a sure thing, Harris contract isnt even that big so i dont mind him, its not like hes making McGrady money or something