TRADE DEVIN HARRIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW! Pathetic!

wow devin only had 5 points, what is wrong with him. i say trade him, bobby simmons, najera for someone good! if we cant beat the bucks were not getting to 10 wins, and cdr is all talk

@ Jeffrey i agree trade DEVIN he is still a good player but if we trade him now we will get a decent player and get john wall in draft. because WERE GETTING NUMBER 1 PICK

Disgusting.
Bad offense.Bad defense.Everyone!
DH got used by jennings
Why so many shots for hayes?
Why so little for Brook?
So much for injuries being the blame
So much for KiKi doin better than LFrank
Go John Wall!

Did our guards play Defense? Why not play our big guys in the first half? The Nets are disliked by all the refs now. We have no respect even in our home court. I am so disappointed.

Exacly why no one will come here
WE ARE THE BIGGEST JOKE OF A FRANCHISE

This was unexusable, during practice do they ever practice defense?
When Brook Lopez does bad 1st quarter he cannot do any better because he does to much crying.
We were up by 8 in the 1st 2 minutes of the game.
Lopez was pathetic
Najera SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO THE ONE TO BE BOUGHT OUT, I CANNOT STAND HIM WHEN EVER HE IS IN HE JUST BRINGS US DOWN!

I dont understand why we have so many people on the bench and yet they dont play we just tire all of our starters.
Hassel is our best defender and works every day during a game yet didnt play, Bobby can shoot when we were down we didnt play him.
I dont know what is going on with this franchise we ruined our chances at anything.
IM DONE

Bogut is much better than LP,NOW.
Bogut just eat Brook up. .
Yi’s offence is Dirk’s like.
He is the only one that show desire to win .

Yi was the only one who didn’t give up. Sigh.
Trade Devin Harris.

Devin Harris looks like he just doesn’t care anymore. Courtney Lee’s jumpshot looks different every time he shoots. Brook Lopez looks for the foul more than he actually looks to score. CDR looks like he get’s beat up every game and needs to sit out for most of the second half. Dooling is still hobbled. This team is broken.

I’d be all for making that rumored Humphries trade and starting Chris Quinn, CDR, Humprhies, Yi and Lopez just to test out some new chemistry. It doesn’t make a difference who we throw out there. We’re going to lose. All the time.

Yi looked pretty good out there on offense, but he has to work on his defense and rebounding more. He’s actually not a bad shot blocker but his weakness on defense is his positioning – he’s gotta get to his position before his man gets there. It was nice to see him drive to the rim from the 3 pt line instead of shooting it from there … that’s not something he would have done in the past.

The rest of the team … just wow. Can’t believe the number of bad shots taken.

Trade Devin Harris. I like that.

Trade Devin Harris.

This is terrible. Other than Yi and CDR, every net played a horrible game. Couldn’t rebound, couldn’t defend, couldn’t shoot, how can one expect to win? B Lo got eaten alive by the Aussie. Najera couldn’t shoot straight. Devin played no D. It doesn’t look like the Nets had any game plan at all. The refs are no help either. So many calls could go the other way. It’s time we re-examined the entire bench.

I bet coach frank is laughing his ass of that we have only won 3 games and del harris is not any help. if we still had frank we would have 2-4 more wins lol

can’t wait to see cdr press confrence calling everyone out.

Devin is just a balerina lol Lopez gets mad at others he should look at a film how he plays … C Lee its not a nba player go to DL .. yi is just anoher puding … we are just bad team and looks like C Quinn will save them…BS

The only explanation I can come up with at this point, is that the Nets players have no respect for their coaches or management, and fans. They sense KiKi,Thorn and the rest are on their way out, and the Nets are headed for Brooklyn…

Brook should not have less than 10 shots in any game.
CDR should not get less than 10 shots in any game
Yi should not be able to. Shoo the ball until he has 3 assists in 1 game
DH should just shut up sit down and take some notes on how to read defenses, set up Brook, find the hot had, play D, shoot the ball,pass the ball, and lead

YI ON THE OTHER HAND PLAYED GREAT. 22pts 2 blk shots niceee and not settling for 3

Simply awful. Couldn’t watch.

What was wrong with Kiki for playing Najera. Is Kiki trying justify never playing Najera again? He must have cost Nets 12 points or more during his 14.5 minutes.

Boone is looking so good by comparison. Don’t get rid of him yet.

No FA is coming here unless Nets could make a trade for a physical Big. They wasted that opportunity by giving away Alston.

Najera sucks!
The offence sucks, so do the defence!
This game can not afford any promise to the fans!
Trade everyone, i hate watching this crap game!

The only problem with trading Devin Harris now, is that there are no takers. LOL

Devin Harris is fools gold.

No distributor= bad offense.

Not a very talented roster.
  
Nets are in deep trouble.

Najera is the worst player I have ever seen. Complete garbage. Ugh. Get him out of here asap. I’ve had it with his fake hustle his horrible shooting his awful defense. He can’t even box out. Worst player in the nets in the last 10 years

I actually believed this team would be competitve enough to watch for the rest of the year. How delusional. Really, the Nets don’t have one player good enough to start in the NBA except as a role player alongside 4 very strong players (like Lee in Orlando).

If this is how we’re showcasing Najera for an upcoming trade, I hope the other GMs noticed how well… he… ummm… uhhh… shuffles… his feet? Yea… I guess that’s one thing he does… Eh, crap.

It seems that Harris dDoes not care about winning? Does he want to win? Taking 5 shots is bad leadership. I mean, he’s a great player who seems that he cannot take it anymore and just wants this year to pass quickly.

CDR, together with Yi do cares about winning. CDR’s ankle is troubling him, and he is trying to player through it. Happened the same thing in the Cavs game if you remember.

Lopez had a bad game but that’s OK. He still finds it hard to play against big stronger Centres, but he’s just a sophomore, give it time. He’s probably the best and most consistent sophomore this year and would win te Sophomore of the Year, if it existed (even if Rose is playing really well the last few games). I don’t know if you noticed him literally storm out of the court even before the game was finished.

The players are still young. As long as they show they want to win, it’s OK. And let’s face it; Lopes, Yi, Lee and CDR do want to wint. It’s Harris I’m worried about. It’s almost as he gave up on the team.

As to Najera, I was impressed how bad he can be if he’s given vast playing time. He made me miss Boone. Where was Boone by the way? And… I cannot possibly see SWill playing worse than Najera. So why not try to save him and develop another young guy, instead of playing Najera and decrease his trade value by the minute?

All in all, let’s not give up on this team. It’s 4.33am in Malta, should sleep, I guess :)

@ Carlos

Boone was out because of his sore knee, accordding to Kerber.

Think Philly would be interested in Harris for Jrue Holiday and Jason Kapono?

like if this is a new thing!!!

we best get used to loose, we wont reach 10 wins this seasons….

Lame :(

Too bad Frank isn’t here anymore. It would be so easy to blame him intead of coming to the reality that the team lacks talent. I thought the team would be better than this. Right now Yi, Brook and CDR look like the only keepers.

And Najera is awful. I never liked his game.

Well, look at the bright side. We are getting closer to clinching a #1-4 pick….

Both Battie and Najera are HORRIBLY done. Cant wait to have Boone back, so this old bums dont see any pt in a while. They should retire.

man if only we a defensive point guard like rondo instead….

I turned it off after the first half…it’s. Disgrace.

Nets must change,such as trade.I think Lee+Battie+Simmons/
Najera trade to Hou. for T-mac is a good idea.

Hey was anyone at IZOD? because during the opening warm ups brook just stood there and didnt take any shots. I Saw him yawning. He was tired in the first quarter, and really didnt play any D. But he got open under the basket ALOT and the guards just didnt find him. Everyone on this team needs to work on D. And YI with 2 rebounds? Hes 7 feet tall and he gets 2 rebounds? He looked great on offense but come on.

Now I know how Custer felt at Little Big Horn…

TRADE HARRIS, LEE, SIMMONS FOR RONDO DO IT THORN IT WILL BE A STILL TRUST ME. harris sucks, rondo is on the rise lee is not a great shooter. cdr can mover back to sg and twill could start at sf and develop

@J22
I agree 100% but no team will take Najera, he cannot defend, shoot, and loses the ball.
Najera should be bought out and then retire, he is the worst exuse of a player ive ever seen. The fans even booed him which was the highlight of the night.
Yet he is still played over Trenton Hassell one of our best defenders or Bobby Simmons a man who can actually shoot. Or even Sean Williams for god sakes

What we need is a butt kicker. Kiki is so nice, Thorn is so nice, Ratner is supposed to be a sweet heart, Frank was a wimp…

Hopefully Proky comes on board and hires management that is not afraid of it’s players. Give then some DNP’s “coaches decision”. And I don’t mean for one game either.

I would bench Harris and start Quinn next chance I got…

Let him sulk and cry to his agent…

Devin does seem to be conceding this season. That doesn’t make him a bad player who should be traded. It just means he isn’t a team leader.

Nets don’t have a leader except when Dooling is in. Maybe if Nets were lucky enough to get DLee to relocate to Jersey, he could become team Captain next year.

If Nets were lucky enough to get Wall, then he would become the floor leader and make Devin more competitive.

In meantime, why not designate Dooling as co-Captain?

Kiki and Thorn did the Nets a really big favor getting rid of VC, because it gave them a chance to evaluate how good the young talent really is and what needs to be done. VC as a distributor and go-to guy was making the Nets appear much better than they were (without him) and hiding the reality from the fans and possibly from the front office itself.

Note that even when VC had bad nights (like tonight for Orlando he was 2 for 15 playing on a bad ankle), he would get others involved and act as a decoy, freeing up everyone and give the Nets a chance to win.
 
In any case, the Nets need a big infusion of talent, and now they know more clearly what they need. For example, they could use a distributor PG (or SG/SF), a strong rebounding defensive PF, an all star offensive talent at either SG or SF (both would be better), and many strong backups.

Najera sucks big time. Yi was great. That’s all i can said. Stop bashing Yi. I see him blossoming into an all star player in about a year time.

agreed that we need an all star sg or sf…devin harris needs good players around him to succeed. yi and cdr would be very strong back ups…

Some guys act real tough when they got backup. Harris had backup with V.C.

Harris has to go. We can lose just as good with him as without him.

Team leader, all-star, top five PG… LMAO

Plus he’s due to get injured any time now…

The sooner you admit your wrong, the easier it is, to make it right.

No wonder there are so few Nets fans. Most of them die at a young age, of heart failure. Same affliction that besets their players…

Pathetic. Oh and fellas you got a glimpse of the backup to Howard in the All Star game tonight and no it’s not Lopez… Just disgraceful!

Yi looked good only by Contrast, say with Najera. Like the new LED TV’s with a Contrast Ratio of like 1 million to 1!

Nets are sooo bad at the 4/5 other than Lopez/Yi.
Now noone will take Najera. He looked like a street Thug.

Why didn’t Kiki at least play TWill at the 4 to hope for a spark? If Nets are going to lose, I don’t see why he wouldn’t get players some experience.

Ya Bogut looked good at there. Looked much more solid then B-Lo. But it took him for years to get where he is. Before then he had injury problems and he really wasnt good. Brook Lopez has already done so much in his second year, and give him two more years he will be so much better than bogut.

maybe like the arena league, we should take the whole year off?

Brook is very slow and predictable compare to Bogut. When is the real Lee going to show up. I’m getting sick of his 3 for 12 nights. Is starting to be a norm.

@Sparklespice Once again Brooks Outplayed by guys his size..he seems 2 be in a lil slump..is his game that affected by Yi’s Return? And Why Does Brook do that silly Jumpin and beating his chest b4 each game?

I guess KIKI had to play Nejera a little, to show teams that he is healthy. HOPE he and SEAN leave soon. Why no Boone tonight, is he injured, again? At least we didn’t have to look at Simmons or Hassell tonight. Glad to see Hayes back, give him five more games to get his legs back. YI had some moments, again. He needs more. Brook is not getting the ball in the right places. KIKI needs to restrict Devin and Dooling’s shooting. They need to set up Brook and YI. Neither Devin or Dooling shoot a good enough percentage to forget about the six foot shots they can set up for YI and Brook. Knew Alston would go, yes we saved some money, but hoped to get more for him. Chris Quinn is a nice young kid, but couldn’t run the HEAT. These deals were all about the money.It is still RATNER’S Club.

@matt CDR all TALK? He has the MOST HEART of ANY NET,,and 2bad he isn’t a FAVORITE of Kikis..or WE’d WIN GAMEs cause he’d get Touches! Started out on FIRE AGAIN and we Continue 2 run Plays for C lee? Funny how after a Cpl Dunks and Layups in the 1st Qtr..CDR is SUBBED?? Then again in the 3rd after 2 quick baskets..He’s SUBBED again and sits 4 8mins! Its OBVIOUS 2 C what’s Goin on..Kiki has a hidden agenda 2 Showcase “Csertain” players..PERIOD

Fire Kiki!!!!

Hollah!!

Wow! Before the season began, people wanted to trade Yi…but now they want to keep him and trade Devin Harris!!!
I have been saying this for a long time…the Nets should trade Devin Harris and draft a new PG…hopefully Wall!!!

Kiki should be fired for playing Najera!!!!!!! Simmons is the best of the old bums(Battie,Najera, Hassel) Start lopez,boone cdr harris hayes, use dooling, yi, lee, simmons as 2nd unit trade everyone else.Find someone to get lopez to stop crying and just play.Hire fratello with patrick ewing as his assistant. Let the fans in for free for doing this to us, at least for a few games.

Courtney Lee sucks big big time.

why trade harris? he is a perfect backup to john wall!
yi is the perfect backup to bosh or boozer
lopez to newark native shaq
cdr to lbj
and lee to whoever we can get who can actually shoot.

Pg Pg…
Yi+ Brook got 5 shoots in the first half…
How could this happened ?

The last time the Nets had true shooters(besides VC) was when? Been a long time since we had that luxury, somebody who just can knock it down consistently. I honestly can’t recall in the last 6-10 years. Anybody remember one? Not the occasional like Van Horn or Kittles, Lucious Harris- like a real one.

@NiceBull the last true shooter? Hmm, that would be the late great Drazen Petrovic

I feel like its not the guards that made the Defensive mistakes… Our big’s, mainly Brook, over help way to much. Its one thing if a guy blows by, which sometimes happens but that’s always going to happen, but Brook doesn’t need to double every single dang player that comes into the paint.

Eddie House.

Everyone flips out on Harris for only taking 5 shots, but that’s not his problem unless your watching blindfolded. It’s decision making. He’s not going to be Jason Kidd, I understand that. But he needs to find his role in the offense with the proper balance.

Defensively, I don’t even want to talk about it, and that goes for the whole team.

Harris is god awful

@NiceBull

Drazen Petrovic (short lived)

@ Nicebull

I would take a Kittles or Lucious Harris right about now!

What a debacle. Showcasing Najera really backfired on you Kiki. Kris Humphries better be in a Nets jersey by noon tomorrow. Najera = Career Over

let’s just bring back some old Nets for funsies. What would happen, we’d lose????

and folks, stop freaking out on Lopez. He’s doing amazing things for a 21 yr old, second year player. He’s got All Star written all over him. Just be patient.

I am going to guess some of y’all are Yankees fans.

LOOOOOOOOSE,always like that. How can it happed all the time? I can see nothing regarding positive info, except Yi…who is the guy teased by everybody, pretty ridiculous!!
Can our guards play defence? Can our guards see our big guys? what is going on the damned court??
Let’s say that again, come on, do defence. Give more supports to Yi and BL.

How long before Sean Williams start acting up again? Najera getting minutes over SW? LOL I sense something personal.

Devin and Brook are ALLSTARS! and didn’t you hear, the Bulls are going to hire the great coach Lawrence Frank.

3-31! GO NETS!

Finally, seems like some are putting the Kool8d down…

Yes, obviously Petrovic was a pure shooter. Legendary shooter.

I was thinking last 6-10 years, and there isn’t anybody – VC is the only one who even comes close to fitting that category.

Eddie House didn’t shoot as well on the Nets, and he was injured a lot too.

Do the Nets just turn good shooters bad in this last decade?

We have a team that’s supposed to be fast-paced, pushing the ball – and nobody can hit their shots, except CDR right now.

I watch all these other teams, even bad teams, and they have at least 2 guys that can hit 3’s or mid-range jumpers. They can hit open looks, and come off screens and hit their shots. Why can’t the Nets do this?

If we keep playing guys like Najera and Boone too much more, Comedy Central is going to be picking up our games. I don’t like to hate on Lee because he works hard but his form is close to putting him in that club too sometimes. Improv jump shots and none of them look good.

i ’ve no idea about what our guards done with the defences. The only thing they did was leaving our two big in the rim to rotate their empities and geting away the rebounding from their own bigs,which were without any competition.
Guards must pay some passions, pls not noly on handling the ball, but some defences,OK?

Pathetic. Lopez and Yi were pushed around on the defense like rag dolls. 2 rebounds for a 7 footer? 2? Give me a break. One of them has to be replaced by a tough inside defender. Trade Yi while teams think he is good. He gives up too much on the other end and is really only a one dimensional player. Bogut impressed me with his work inside.

@ Yao

Amen. Good idea trading big time but not going to happen while Kiki is around.

@Yao

Who is the center of our team? If you are impressed with the Aussie, then you must have noticed who he pushed around. Don’t forget Bogut was a no.1 draft pick and he has been in the league for a few years. Today, every net was pushed around. And they couldn’t score either except Yi and CDR. Your prejudice against Yi is atrocious. Thinking that bashing a Chinese can raise your low self-esteem due to enthic background?

@bill
I agree. I truly believe there is more than a hint of anti-Chinese bias among some of these posters…racial profiling of Chinese as “soft”. The kid is averaging 21 ppg over six games after being out for six weeks, scoring both on drives and jumpers, adjusting in mid air and developing shot blocking skills. These guys REJOICE after a bad game and yet consider themselves Nets fans. I don’t.

I can hardly wait for Brooklyn.

Re: Yi…he was in early foul trouble (refs were on him for breathing too hard for some reason), so he couldn’t play as aggressively on defense as he probably would have wanted. And it seems like Yi focused more on boxing out than going for the rebounds in this game as well…the guards appeared to get more rebounds than they usually do in this game.

So they’re all healthy and Frank’s gone.
Now what’s the excuse?

Could it be the roster?
Devin (turnover) Harris and Courtney (can’t shoot) Lee are in the back court. Yi (no D) Jianlian, Brook (what’s a boxout?) Lopez as the bigs.

And Kiki (everybody’s pal) for coach.

I can hardly wait for Brooklyn.
Get us a new franchise.

Unfortunately racism still exists in Brooklyn. It festers throughout America and it THRIVES on the internet. It seems there will never be any escaping it. It’s a shame but it’s true.

@ Bill

Just to be clear. I have no problem with Yi being Chinese. He is fortunate enough to have an extremely large fan base from his homeland but imo he gets opportunities others don’t due to that. It’s not his fault. His play is not judged by his talent. When the president of the team says he is not sure he is “starting quality” on a 3-31 team why are we not trying something else? He is soft and he is not soft cuz he is Chinese. He should play SF cuz he is soft. Posters who refer to his offense as a plus just miss the point. It’s always about defense. Posters say give him a chance to develop but you could say that about anyone. The question is after 2+ years of failure why does he still get one?

The only things Najera do is run into people and miss shots. For that he gets $3 million a year!

I see that the team is following Kiki’s lead in rebounding. Kiki never boxed out and neither do the Nets’ big men.

I am glad to hear everyone else is tired of seeing Harris get stripped off the dribble by rookie point guards. They should trade him for Andre Miller and have Dre be the bridge to John Wall. His trade value has to be plummetting.

Lopez looks completely dejected. Bogut abused him in the paint and he put up no fight at all. It looked like a scrimmage between two friends when Bogut had the ball. He should focus on getting defensive boards instead of shots and maybe his mood would improve.

People tout Yi, and it says a lot about this roster that he is their best player. But his D and boards were poor. On offense, he looks when he gets the ball that he already has decided to go one on one because he figures he is the only guy who can make a shot. And he may be right but still that is a recipe for problems.

@ kg

Your hatred towards Boone is comical.

you realize Boone was out tonight right? Of course that doesnt prevent you from bashing the guy lol… whether you like it or not, he’s our best backup big and he has done a decent job this season so far.

Najera is so done its not even funny any more. And do I need to say anything about Sean Williams? some people here keep hating on Yi and Boone in a ridiculous way yet think Swat’s the answer, I mean, what else needs to be said, how do you expect to take you seriously?

And how about Tony Battie? Why does this washed up bum get a free pass here? He’s even worse than Najera, if you ask me. I mean, watching him launching threes and stupid jumpers is so disgusting… he cant even play D anymore.

And those Yi haters need to cut the crap already. Kid has made major strides, so please go suck on a lemon.

Am I out of my mind for thinking:

Thaddeus Young, Jrue Holiday & Jason Kapono
for
Devin Harris, Courtney Lee & Terrence Williams

…Could it ever happen?

@ Net Income

You expect all these fans to magically appear from Brooklyn? Who are they. The fans will be the fans on this site today. As you like to constantly bring up to us New Jersey folk, Brooklyn is just a hop skip and a jump away from New Jersey. Aren’t we all just one big happy tri-state, metropolitan group of people. Where are all these ghost Brooklyn fans now? If the New Jersey Nets organization continues to assemble this disgrace like they have for decades, what hero fanbase will suddenly appear from the rafters and support this team? 3-31. I knew this was a retooling, rebuilding, year, but, this is disgraceful. We are flirting with the worst record in NBA history! We were sold that we would have a young, exciting, up tempo team to watch this year as they develop. Huh? Young maybe. If we are so close to Brooklyn, why aren’t they coming out to the games? I think I have the answer: POOR PRODUCT. AGAIN.

I like the kid, but Courtney Lee aint looking good at all. Harris played like crap too.

Im not ready to give on any of them yet tho. You have to take into account the whole situation. Harris cant carry a team. That doesnt mean he needs to be traded. That means we need a franchise player. Last year we had one (VC) and Harris was an All Star. And Lee played well last year as a role player when he had several all stars surrounding and helping him.

TWill needs to be given more PT.

“How long before Sean Williams start acting up again? Najera getting minutes over SW? LOL I sense something personal.”

…like a 50-stitch elbow to the face?

People trash Battie but he led the team in offensive rebounds with 2.

It’s kinda hard to get defensive rebounds when the other team didn’t miss too many.

This is the reality…. Najera was showcased last night, at the expense of the game. I’m not saying he lost us the game, but when we started to lose our lead in the 1st qtr, we were still hanging in, then Najera came in, and things went south quickly. I can’t help but feel that some players have resentment. Just how we notice who should get playing time, the players KNOW who should, and can affect them just the same. Now I really hope mgmt. didn’t screw up a trade with Dallas et al, because Najera showed what he really is, a scrub. There can be talk about leaders, but he’s not one of them, I’m sorry, you can’t convince me of that. Right now our servicable guys are Lopez, Yi, and CDR. Yes Yi. Get over it people, he’s not going anywhere, and for those of you say he’s soft….he’s been playing with the most heart these past few games. I invite you to name me someone (CDR) who’s played with more conviction. Kiki needs to; A. Let Del Harris take over, B. Let Tom Barisse take over (he deserves a valid opportunity). Winnable games are few and far between for this team. Last night was one of them. I understand the NBA is a business, and no other team has made that more apparent then the Nets. However, when you showcase a player, at the cost of a win, your fans’ agita, and possible developing chemistry of your team, that’s when a business move becomes a damaging move. Najera better have played his last game as a Net. I still think him, Boone, and Quin are not nets by the trade deadline, but this just hurt. I hope they know what they are doing. One thing was for sure…it was HILARIOUS seeing Najera labor down the court on that fast break, head bobbing like a chicken

Devin Harris is an offensive and defensive liability for this Nets team. It’s always galling when he shifts responsibility for his poor play to the limitations of “the younger guys”.

After herculean effort, Brook Lopez seems to have lost some of his fight. I think the constant losing has finally gotten to him, but Brook’s resilient and his talent will prevail.
 
Expectations for Yi that are media-generated cannot be sustained by his play. While I think Yi is improving, Yi as starting PF is still a far reach.

Courtney Lee seems unsuited for his starting shooting guard position.

CDR is good and getting better in his sophomore year. Still learning, but bringing what he’s learned to the court.

My hope for the Nets is that they get a quality coach SOON who has no loyalties to any team member and is skilled at player development. This season isn’t over yet. Our youngest NBA starters still have a chance, but Devin is seriously undermining their opportunities for wins by his current abysmal play.

@ Net Income

Thanks. You have been fair with Yi and I salute you.

Bottomline:

To be a very competitive team in the NBA, you need a couple of star players surrounded by good role players. We have no star players this year. I am still holding out hope that Brook can eventually be one, but, he still has work to do to get to that level. That being said, we need to win the draft lottery and expect John Wall to be one of those stars for us. If he is as sure a thing as advertised. I say yes from the little I have seen from him. We, in turn, should be able to lure atleast one big name star through free agency with all the cap space we will have. By then, maybe some of this young core will be developed enough to gell and play their role to produce wins. I hope.
By the way, what happened to Najera? Wasn’t he a good player in Denver? He has looked awful since coming here. I do agree, the Nets were trying to show case him last night, but, it back fired. Personally, I would rather see 30 minutes of Sean Williams for us, rather than Najera. Atleast, Sean plays some defense and alters shots.
I just read that we broke a record with 21 consecutive games of being out-rebounded. What? We do have two 7-footers starting now, right? I know Yi has just been back for about six or seven games, but, it has not changed our lack of boards. Well, atleast, we have our draft pick!

@ Jeff

It seemed to me that the best team oriented and competitve we played this year was when we had Terrence at the point, Courtney Lee, and CDR all in the game together. I wouldn’t mind seeing if that works again or if that was just a one time deal. Kiki should experiment with those three on the court again.

I put little stock in the out-rebounded thing. Yes, we could certainly get better… but we miss 60-70% of our shots… There’s always going to be a ton of defensive rebounds for the other team to grab. The poor rebounding numbers are directly related to the horrendous offense.

Just because “Yao” posts on this site with a Chinese-looking name doesn’t imply he/she/it is Chinese. But the nonstop expression of hatred towards Yi coming from this poster does seem to imply he/she/it is a racist.

We get to be more critical of Yi for two big reasons:

1) He was a diva with not wanting to show up to Milwaukee. If you’re gonna act like your mess doesn’t stink, you bring the hammer on yourself.

2) He was a top 3 draft pick, which also means he makes a lot of money. So we have to look at his returns… His game would be great if he was taken 20th in the draft.

Yi is the major problem
When he play good every play bad
Trade him before it is too late

Give Yi more time to be used to NBA game, he will be better. He is still soft, as lots of people said.

His soft was not his fault. He is short of basketball experience in this Country. He never played in NCAA games. All his experience are from Chinese basketball games or international basketball leagues or Olympic game rules. Those game rules are quite different than US NBA or NCAA rules. Body contact is very easy to be a faul call in those games.

As far as he is used to NBA games, he will be great: Tall, Athletic and Serious each game.

@ “Yao”

Would you mind stoppinng using “Yao” as your name. You are NOT qualified to use it. It will cause likelihood of confusion that you are a “Yao Ming” fans. You are not a fans to “Yao” or “Yi”.

@Yao

Your prejudice against Yi is atrocious. pretty ridiculous!!

International Basketball League (including Chinese Basektball) rules and philosophy are quite different than US NBA games. They do not encourage body contact.

Ten years ago, when I came to this country and played games in YMCA with street guys, many HS guys would like to dunk in the game. I was astonished at that, really!

Twenty years ago, when I played basket regional college games (Northeast Area) in China (similar like NCAA), nobody could dunk even some of my teammates were 6’3" or higher. they finished only by layup.

The Yi hate is beyond stupid. Get over yourselves. Yi is playing good and has improved tenfold since last season, a true Nets fan would rejoice in his improvement, not call him ‘soft’ or use weak logic to try and insult him. He has become a legitimate offensive weapon on the floor when he is used properly.

Cut the garbage folks. If it isn’t CDR being unfairly bashed for being a competitor, it’s Yi getting bashed after averaging 20+ppg over the course of six games. Get real

oh yeah, #3) Although not his fault, we were told Yi was a big part of the NETS future that would justify giving up RJ.

Yi was taken six in the draft.

@Mr.Big,Yao
I too think its unecessary to bring up the race talk lets stop right there. As for your questions, Yi’s gonna get his chance for two reasons,1)he’s young. 2)he’s shown flashes.

Yi didnt rebound well but like some other poster said, with 2 bigs in the middle theres gotta be someone else boxing out the opponent bigs. Yi was the one on that job.
He was in early foul trouble and refs had a go with him in the second half as well but he still managed to shoot a good percentage and went to the line 10 times. He also had the best plus/minus score out of all the nets player with 3 -- oh yea the nets lost by 20. Sure stats dont tell the whole story but after a performance like this in a blowout loss, blaming the best player in that match isnt convincing at all.

Agreed 100 percent – I think Yi should be the second option on offense behind Brook Lopez.

@JustinNJ
You meant the same group of guys in season opening where the nets gave up 17 points in 6mins?
plz no.

@Paul.B
Come on mate, at least get your facts straight.
A)It wasnt him not wanting to show up in Milwaukee, it was his agent Fegan’s call.
B)He’s 6th overall pick.

Not to beat a dead horse, but Najera! He runs into Jennings, a little guy, 28 feet from the basket a totally unnecessary foul. He should not be anywhere within 10 feet of Jennings out there. Then, a couple minutes later, at the end of the first half, he is in the paint but he doesn’t bother to put his body on Elson at all, but walks behind him at his elbow like a US Marshal marching a perp for the cameras while Elson reaches DOWN and grabs the offensive board. Incredible.

And could someone tell Brook Lopez not to pass off the dribble. Ever.

idk how im going to say this but another free agent nxt summer that no1 taught about is ray allen. he is what this team needs. a great jump shooter.

@ feizo

There are others who are young and shown flashes that don’t get the same chance. The reason he plays is cuz it’s good for the league (remember as one poster wrote, if he played well he’d be “in the all-star game” over others more deserving and certain people behind him wanted to force him into a “big market”.) and we don’t care about losing. It isn’t equal opportunity when it comes to him. He is different by no fault of his own.

@ others

Ok, my bad on the pick.

@ feizo

See above + Agents are just that “agents” of their clients. They follow their client’s direction… Even if some agents are heavy handed, it is the players who have ultimate control. Hence, yes, Yi was a diva.

Also, I don’t think Yi is playing up to a 6th overall pick. I think he’s playing like a very good sixth man/very borderline starter. Lots of guys in this leage can score and don’t have the other skills.

@ tu vieja

I don’t think we should invest the big bucks in someone that old.. and I don’t think he’d come cheap.

The only old guy I’d want is Marcus Camby, if he’s not too expensive.

I’m entitled to my opinion. ANd in my opinion, Yi is a borderline starter/good sixth man. Fairly good offense + defensive and rebounding liability = borderline starter/good 6th man on a GOOD team (on our current team he is definitely a starter).

That is not me not knowing the team. That is me saying that to be a contender we need a rebounder and defender up front.
You don’t have to agree.

@paul.B
Thats just naive. Agents are much more than what their job title indicates.D.Fegan is also known for his control over players - There was a piece on clutchfans regarding Fegan’s strategy when it comes to controlling rookies, he was clearly eyeing for the Yao-sque market impact in Yi, thats why he pushed hard for a trade after the draft.

I do agree with your sixth man comments thou, Yi is still one dimensional at this stage. But come to think of it, its still early in his career and hes shown us at least one thing hes capable of doing - scoring at a high clip. It takes international players a long time to transfer their games and potential to the NBA, Yi has shown us he can score and rebound/block shots, just give him the time and see what happens.

@Paul B

I agree with you that Yi is a borderline starter at this time. Given the other alternatives on the roster, I think he is the only PF we have that good enough to get a chance to start. I also think that he is a much better rebounder than he gets credit for (2nd on the team in rebounds last year, despite being 7th on the team in minutes, plays away from the basket on offense, resulting in fewer offensive boards…on defensive boards, opposing teams are shooting at a high FG%, so there are fewer rebounding opportunities).

In terms of his defense, I think “liability” is too strong, although I do think he needs to improve a lot on defense. Having said that, I think EVERYBODY on the roster needs to improve defensively, some more than Yi, and find it a bit surprising how much of the blame on defense Yi actually shoulders from the media and fans. “Defense” and “basketball IQ” are two things that can’t really be quantified, so they are easy catch-phrases for people to use to slam players without actually having to back up with stats or other measurable way.

@ feizo

It is still on the player to not take garbage from their agents. Agents work for the player. I do not know as much about the specifics of this agent as you might. But a player has to be smart enough to know who is in charge. Maybe it mitigates it a bit, But then Yi is just not very bright…. which I guess would not really be his fault.

Also, you are right about international players sometimes taking a while. I know Dirk was around a long time before he started to look ok. But if we want to be good next season, he’s got to become our sixth man, unless we bring in 2 Excellent players at the 1, 2, and/or 3.

Yi’s making strides though. Last year he looked like a complete bust.

@ Paul B…
Exactly what draft picks are specifically assigned to be used solely for the selection of a “very good sixth man/very borderline starter”? There is no set formula for the way ANY draft pick should play let alone the 6th pick.

There’s a lot of testosterone flowing through this site today. Simmer down boys.

Re: Yi…
Calling a player soft doesn’t always have to be motivated by racism. Keith Van Horn was a little too soft for a lot of fans and he scored over 21ppg in the 98-99 season. That same year he had 1.3 blocks per game and 8.5 rebounds.

If Yi keeps this pace up those will be his numbers for the year. That said, he still may not be the banger in the paint that some fans want. Accordingly, they could label him as “soft”.

Most of the time, and at the very worst those fans are wrong. That doesn’t always make them racist. Sure, in some cases it does, but that doesn’t mean we should be so quick to to throw a label on someone just as those with prejudices do.

@Paul.B
I’d rather use him as a sixth man right now and start Boone.
Why?
A)Yi has the green light to shoot out of the building while playing lower-leveled competition. I would say give him anywhere from 26-30mins a game and max out his efficiency. Its not a knock on Yi but a good sixth man is normally the second best or third best player on a good team. Ginobili, Richardson, Landry, Odom…Its nothing to be shamed about being a sixth man.

B)The Nets arent gonna win many games. Might as well get the most out of young players other than bench them. Start Boone and play Sean Williams to boost up their value so hopefully the nets can land a veteran defensive minded PF next season to start or backup behind a further developed Yi.

Just my 2 cents

@Paul.B
Thats exactly what Yi did. Its just unfortunate it didnt work out.

Re: Yi and the whole Milwaukee and agent thing…I don’t expect a 21 year old kid from Guangdong, China is going to know what an agent is/isn’t supposed to do. Chances are, Fegan told him “leave it to me, I will get you the deal you deserve”, and Yi believed him. How would he know any better? Fegan represents a lot of players in NBA, so I’m sure Yi figured he knew what was best…

@Andres

The Boone hatred is warranted. I mean do you look away every time the guy shoots? Could it be you were in the stands for one of his errant free throws and that would explain your delusion? This team has been out-rebounded in an NBA record 21 straight games and this guy played in most of those and started some others. He is a designated rebounder who doesn’t rebound well unless the ball falls in his lap. His defense and fundamentals get a pass as well as he never draws a charge and never blocks off either on the boards. He is an adequate passer but since he is not a threat to score it doesn’t matter.

Battie is unfortunately as done as Najera. Agreed there. I was hoping more a little more from Battie.

@ PhilNYC and Fezio

Yeah, the more I think about it, Yi may have also gotten “guidance” from some Chinese powers that be… they have a stake too I am sure… So maybe it wasn’t his fault… but he might not be super smart.

@ Fezio

There’s no point in boosting the value of Boone (who I personally love, but know isn’t the most talented) and SWat UNLESS we trade them this season, since both are unrestricted next year, I believe (not 100% sure on Boone). And no way is SWat getting us anything of value.

@ Dirt

I must admit that I went and looked at the results of the draft, and there really weren’t a ton of players who are kicking butt taken after Yi, althought there are certainly a couple I would rather have. Weak draft I guess.

http://www.nba.com/draft2007/board.html

Dang it… I’ve basically conceded… Being wrong sucks.

Calling Yi soft when he is your team’s leading scoring is racist. This is basketball, not boxing, hockey or football.

It’s the whole white man can’t jump thing, it was racist before, it’s racist now.

Like me saying X black player will end up in jail soon. They always break the law.

NO NO NO.

Calling Yi soft is NOT racist…. wow…. Maybe he’s soft cuz he had 2 rebounds… Maybe he’s soft because all of last year he was super-soft.

There is nothing wrong with calling a Chinese player soft if that particular Chinese player is soft.

There is nothing wrong with saying a black player will end up in jail soon if that particular black player is Gilbert Arenas.

It is an individual thing. And based on last year, there is NOTHING Yi could do in 7 games this season to make someone calling him soft “racist” even if they end up being wrong.

I’m undecided on whether Yi is soft, but would not call anyone racist for thinking so.

This race talk is ridiculous, I cant believe it.

I thought Yi was soft last year (I’m Chinese-American, fwiw). He wasn’t aggressive on either end of the floor and shied away from contact. He bulked up over the summer, and he has not played soft this year, especially on the offensive end of the court. He could have played tougher against the Cavs (I cringed at his comment about the Cavs’ bigs), but it wasn’t soft. The only time he seems to shy away from contact now on either side of the court is when he is in foul trouble (and yesterday, he stayed aggressive on offense even while in foul trouble).

I agree that you can call a Chinese (or caucasian) player soft and not be a racist. If you call all Chinese players soft, then that is another situation…

No one is calling anyone racist. There is racial profiling. ANd I would also suggest that the hatred of this kid, who everyone says has a great work ethic and a decent human being, is despicable. Meanwhile, Sean Williams who has a crummy work ethic, who has done nothing but embarrass the franchise, gets a pass.

There were posts telling him to stay in China and not come back last summer and every false step he makes gets blown out of proportion. He played a lot better than Lopez, Harris or Lee last night…and yet we have the usual chorus of naysayers looking for anything to justify staying in their stubborn place, that he’s no good or a stiff.

He’s a 22 year old seven footer who has a rare combination of talents, maybe unique. He played poor defense last night, but not as poor as Lopez. He didn’t rebound well either, but he helped bring the team back in the third quarter last night ON HIS OWN.

And anyone who thinks he will be traded does not understand either the game or business of basketball.

There is also a failure to understand racial profiling. It is the basis of racism. Time for some of you to look into the issue and its ramifications.

Net Income Says:

January 6th, 2010 at 8:58 am

“I truly believe there is more than a hint of anti-Chinese bias among some of these posters…racial profiling of Chinese as "soft".”

It’s pathetic that the moderator is allowed to make such a statement without evidence. Give the evidence and let the posters respond. Just cuz Yi is soft to some posters doesn’t mean they think all Chinese are soft. Sometimes I wonder what’s going on here.

Yi’s not that good, NI. And he could get traded next season because he makes a lot of money based on being a high pick and might want more, and if we sign 2 big $$$ guys, we’re gonna have to cut someone loose.

I think it’s great that so many posters bring up Swat so I get so many chances to write about him. What fan of a 3-31 team would not hate the biggest reason on the court for this record. Imo it’s big time. I personally don’t see any hint of anti-Chinese or racial profiling against the Chinese but if I did, I for one would respond and not stand for it.