Can Yi make a layup. What is wrong with CDR? Post up Lopez more i don’t get why the players don’t get him the ball in the right spot. Kiki is horrible drawing up plays at end of games.

Lame, we didnt play hard in the 2nd half period. Unacceptable even if we are bad.

we play much better D without harris. Thats all i can say about this game.

another loss

WOW, and there are STILL some 30-odd games left! PATHETIC!

YI is garabge. he cant catch, rebound, defend, or hit easy shots, even the announcers in their nice ways said it. AS a decetn PF he should be capable of doing these things.

why is CDR not playing the 4th quarter? I understand terrence and jarvis should get their fair share but so should CDR, and it think that is something kiki needs to work on. in general, what players to put in at what time.

Lopez needs to be less selfish and get better shots. he played so bad at times.

And here’s something i would like to see… Yi/Carter trade exception, dallas draft pick for Ryan anderson and jj redick. that would really help our shooting woos and get us Ryan back in such a way where we can use him as a PF piece to develop instead of Yi.

@ i
your comments about Yi are very extreme, i think he played a fairly good game tonight.

@i

I agree 100%

Ship him back to the landfill where he belongs

If you think he played a fairly good game tonight, you just weren’t watching the game. 2 put back dunks with no one around to stop you and hitting 2 or 3 wide open jumpshots do not make up for the tons of easy layups he made, all his turnovers in which he couldnt catch the ball, and the times where he was pushed around the basket and couldnt get important rebounds.

i’d love ryan anderson over yi.

tons of easy layups he missed*

This team just doesn’t have a go to player. Nobody wanted to shoot when it counted. And this game wasn’t about Yi. He does have weak hands and can be frustrating not making shots under the basket. But he had 15 points 0n 7-15, 12 rebs 2 assists 3 steals and 1 block. I’d take that from a pf every night. And Humphries has come back down to earth so there’s not much other choice. They need a go to player in the worst way.

Even though Yi made that nice three and he was playing alot harder today I still feel that we would have won this game if Humpries played at the end of the game….It’s almost like we were trying to lose at the end…..I wish that someone would just stick KiKi with a pin and make him scream…..His low,calm monotoned voice drives me crazy….

Cdr was on the bench because he’s not a 3 point threat like Hayes

Yi is garbage… i hope we get a real PF soon…
CDR hasnt been playing well for the past month… he’s disappeared mentally

Lee needs to sit….he has 1 good game every 10 games….4 pts and 1 assist from your starting SG is just plain old bad. He’s turning into Antoine Wright 2.0

@i
lets go yi bashers

Yes, where is CDR? Probably the only starter in the NBA who only plays 14 mins in the WHOLE GAME!?! Hard to think anything other than CDR is being frozen out of the Nets games PERIOD. What a slap in the face for a player who wants to contribute. What a bogus coaching concept to bench a good player on a team that needs wins. (Look at his NBA stats while he still has any left.)

Did Kiki even set up any plays for those last couple possessions?They had nothing going on out there on that last play, and that contested 3 by Yi was out of the blue lucky.

And CDR only played 14 minutes, despite playing well when he was in. Meanwhile Courtney Lee goes 2 for 8 in 30 minutes.
To be honest with CDR’s career being ruined by Kiki, I actually don’t know why I’m watching these games anymore. He actually gave me something to watch for, watching how he was emotionally affected every game. Even when he expressed his discontent and his ‘questionable’ Twitter messages, it at least provided some kind of excitement and showed that someone on the team was actually alive…
By no means am I just a CDR fan, as I’ve been following the Nets for around 10 years, but with the way things are being run on this team…

14 minutes played, as it should be. Terrence is playing team basketball, quality basketball, and should be rewarded as such. CDR’s status as a starter is barely a technicality. Terrence Williams is the rightful starter on this team.

I honestly don’t know what’s the deal with you CDR homers. You obviously care more about his own career than you do the Nets. Why you continue to preach your propaganda on a team-fan site is nonsensical.

I dont wanna complain but really wanna know what’s going on w/ CDR, what was he thinking about?

Wow…Kiki didn’t play CDR at all in the 2nd or 4th. He must really not like CDR at all. I understand Hayes had the hot hand at times, but why not put CDR back in the game for CLee, who couldnt hit the broad side of a barn as usual.

Add Fratello to the list of people that think Yi is garbage, which he is. Worst hands i’ve seen in a while. CATCH the freeekin ball, Yiiiii!!

@ GMjigga

Twill has been playin great and deserves to play… However CDR should be the SG because Lee rarely does anything…

Lee hustles on both ends of the floor. He’s streaky, but he’s not a one-trick pony.

yeah lee sucks…yi is ok but he’s a bench player, a nice option to come off the bench to hit shots.

can’t wait til the the nets stop sucking.

Humpries is better than Yi and Ryan Anderson combined!!!

Soooo Yi plays de. Thats it, he’s not a one trick pony?

Errr Lee sorry

Unfortunately cdr is going to be really good on another team. He is going to be the center piece of any trade. He is not into it at all. Lee will only be good if we get wall/turner, gay/joe johnson, amare. He can then come in as a shooter off of the bench like eddie house was. Thats his spot in nba. We got so smoked in the carter/anderson trade.

@GMJigga

I love it how you accuse ‘CDR homers’ of ‘spreading propaganda’(Lol what?) while you continue to label CDR as one-dimensional. Hypocrisy?
Since the beginning of the season, CDR has made large strides in his passing game and his defense, both of which he displayed tonight in the little time he was on the floor.

@i

“Yi/Carter trade exception, dallas draft pick for Ryan anderson and jj redick”… bro you serious ?? lmaoo

i think twill should start over CDR not cuz cdr sucks but he lacks the aggression and simply doesnt want to give it his all

btw why do so many of yous hate on lee? hes a good defender that can also steal, whens hes on HES GOOD but whens he off he sucks but can still make up for it on the defensive end, think about what yous are saying

Does anyone has kiki’s email address so I can give him a piece of my mind on how to rotate the players and what players should be in the game when things get critical.

LOL. As I’ve mentioned many times. Doesn’t really matter if Yi played good or bad. People are still gonna blame Yi. If Nets won, it is not because of Yi. But if the Nets lost? It is all because of Yi.

So what if Yi has 15 pts at 7/15 shooting, 12 boards, 2 ast and 1 B/S. He still has 4 T/O and that T/Os cost us the game. Am I right?

there is the true. the Nets sucks and some nets’ fans also suck.

Zero effort in a game against a team we could have beaten. BOOOOOO to the coaching staff and BOOOOOO to the players.
We looked like we couldn’t be bothered. Where is our heart?

@ GM Jigga

Maybe CDR fans just respect his talent and want him to get a fair shake. After all, CDR was the one of two leading scorers for the Nets for 25 games. He played intensely and well. Even you should be able to identify the dropoff in his play (when Kiki changed the offensive strategy). Even you should be able to see that when CDR plays, there are no offensive plays run for him; as opposed to when Jarvis subs, there are plays run for Jarvis. Even you should be able to see that most starters are not benched for whole quarters of the game. What you won’t see is that CDR’s career is being sabotaged by this and it is just not fair. Not to mention the fact that CDR is a Nets player who can contribute, but is not being allowed to do so. Tonite’s game was lost by 4 points. CDR could’ve made the difference.
Frankly, you have had a burr lodged ever since the twitter controversy and you’ve been unrealistic about CDR, the PLAYER, ever since.

At least we are improving……

CDR is just a marginal NBA player. Why do we have to discuss him so much?

Humphries SUCKS! He’s finally fallen back to earth. Garbage.

We discuss CDR so much because hes “one dimensional” meanwhile Lee gets a free pass when he’s not better then Antoine Wright who was shuned off the Nets because he could only play De.

It matters not whether Yi is good, bad, or in the middle. He is our PF for this year and next year. Get used to it.

@Antoine

It’s not hypocritical. It would be if I charged Jeff with being unbiased while I did the same. I am on record, I repeat, on record on this very site with wanting CDR to be given a chance at starting last year. I call a spade a spade: if he’s playing well and deserves a shot I’ll say it publicly. If he’s being unprofessional and being a ball-hog I’ll say that too. There’s a search function on the forum side. You can take a peek if you don’t believe me.

@Boomdog

Correct, that’s my opinion: Lee is the better defender and plays within the Nets system. Now sure, a cold streak can take out most of his offensive game, although he does run the floor well. In that case I would prefer to see Jarvis Hayes or Dooling.

@Jeff

I absolutely agree that Kiki’s strategy change was monumental in CDR’s decrease role in the offense. On this very website there were blog entries about the Nets front office wanting to place a developmental emphasis on the “Twin Towers” and so those guys are getting more touches. Rather than see a lot more pick-and-roll plays we’re seeing an inside-out game. While I have no problem considering this, I also can see that he’s the only one having such a hard time adapting to this strategy. That’s why I think my criticism is fair: he’s perhaps too self-absorbed and can’t play within this system.

…I mean Terrence Williams has had his shots decreased and is now playing GREAT basketball. So what gives?

What it comes down to is players who help the team win will play. No one is sabotaging Chris, and I really hope that’s now how he sees it, because that just reinforces my idea about him being self-centered. You’re right, starters don’t play 14 minutes a game, so either he doesn’t play 14 minutes a game, or he’s not a starter.

I have said publicly that his Twitter activity is unprofessional, in my opinion. I said the same thing about Terrence’s lapse of judgment on that website, too. However as you can see my opinion of Chris is based on analysis, and I think it’s fair at that.

Ah, the benefits of a forum show themselves: if I could I would fix my grammatical error so that it reads “and I really hope that’s NOT how he sees it.”

Love yourselves, and each other,
GMJ

@GMJigga
“On this very website there were blog entries about the Nets front office wanting to place a developmental emphasis on the "Twin Towers" and so those guys are getting more touches.”

You nailed it.

This is where the team is headed in the LONG term. Harris will stay. The only changes to starters will be to the other two positions. Any talk about trades/signings/drafts that conflict with the “twin towers” strategy is talk without observation about what is happening in front of us.

They’re a bunch of kids between the ages of 21 and 24—Lopez, Yi, TWill, CDR, Lee and Humphries—what do you expect?

cdr? he is done on this team TTTTTTTTTTRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTT me!!!! They are gonna trade him so fast that he wont even remember he played for the nets by next month. The problem is CDR WAS phazed out of the offense and instead of taking it like a man and a pro he is whining sulking and hanging low. That is the reason why kiki has benched him. Go look at the last 10 games. 30 min 28 min 32 mins. its all there kiki hates him now even worse then twill and harris. These guys are playing like little girls. better yet the wnba is better then them its funny cuz when lee and harris was out we win. Now lee comes back we lose. hmmm i wonder what happens when harris comes back….

@i
Yi is the top team rebounder of today.(12)The Nets actually outrebounded the sixers in the first half.
@all Hump lovers
Hump couldn’t buy a bucket today or the day before yesterday (1-8)
The Nets are just not a good team, mental lapses, poor executions and shooting(39%) In the final minutes when it really counts, all the problems show. We were lucky to get this close. Don’t forget the sixers played their bench for a very very long time.

Yi should be traded… Even in a game where almost every Nets player made ridiculous mistakes; Hayes airballed about every triple he didn’t make, Brook airballed and took way too many 20 footers, Humphries can’t shoot period… people still blame everything on a guy who put up 15pts and 12 rebounds.

He can’t rebound? Well then if he led the team in boards tonight I wonder what that means for everyone else. If you wanna bash him, at least be consistent. If you call him a 3rd string backup, then why the heck do you bash the guy for putting up a double double? Remember, theres about 12 other guys on the Nets too.

What has Lee deserved to keep starting and get minutes. He was handed a starting job, he did not earn it. Yi and Lee is all about Kiki trying to prove his trades were not a mistake. Trade Lee while he still has value.

I don’t hate Yi,but I hate how inconsistant he is, and the fact that I don’t think there’s another player in the league with weaker hands than him.When he’s dribbling in the paint you almost always know he’s getting stripped and a turnover. It’s so frustrating. Also he can be blocked with a feather,that’s how soft his hands are.

I’m also getting very tired of Kiki’s terrible play calling(if you can even call them plays.)Lack of emotion, lack of heart, not holding guys accountable, and his bias towards certain players.

Nets have too many wing players. That’s why CDR’s role has decreased. TWill and Jarvis are playing better and CDR hasn’t played as well as he did earlier in the season . All of you CDR fans must have followed him from Memphis to be so passionate about him because he’s really a bench player. To me he’s just another player that’s not helping us win so I really could care less about how many minutes he’s playing.

Jeff,
“Yes, where is CDR? Probably the only starter in the NBA who only plays 14 mins in the WHOLE GAME!?! Hard to think anything other than CDR is being frozen out of the Nets games PERIOD. What a slap in the face for a player who wants to contribute. What a bogus coaching concept to bench a good player on a team that needs wins. (Look at his NBA stats while he still has any left.)”

very well put. in limited amount of words, oyu put together exactly what has happened to CDR. he been denied the right to contribute when his want to win is stronger and his hungriness to compete is more then pretty much any player on the team. if anybody ever believed a coach isnt a critical part of a team, take a look at the nets. Kiki vandewedge has singly handedly hurt the developmetn of multiple players and a collective team effort in an effort to make his boyfriend(yi) better

Neither Lee nor CDR should be starting for an NBA team, but I guess someone has to.

CDR does not play either Brook or Yi’s position. Fact is, CDR is being benched and subs are allowed to play instead. When a sub comes in to play his position, plays are run for that sub that are not run for CDR. Most critically, CDR’s minutes are being decimated game by game.

Emphasis on the two bigs should not mean that other players’ opportunities are totally sacrificed. Good teams put all players in a position to help the team. This isn’t happening with CDR – for whatever are the coach’s reasons.

k i k i s u c k s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CDR is at best a marginal starter in NBA. His game is one dimensional-offense and he is a ball hog. If we have a lot of good D players, then he can work in the system because others are going to pick up his slacks. For the time being, T Will is doing a lot better when he doesn’t take those wild shots as he did in the beginning of the season. He can work well with most of the starters. He is going to get better when he becomes more mature and works under a better coach. He is more of a keeper than CDR.
The talent level is not as bad as the record indicates. A good coach can turn this bunch into a competitive team. One or two super players can lead to contending.

Ironically, if I remember correctly, CDR previously stated that the most important thing to him was that he be a starter.

Looks like he got what he wanted. He’s starting—so what’s the problem?

I really do not see any merit on how he is a ballhog or a bad defensive player from just watching the games. Add to the fact that he was known for his good court vision and defense during his college years. True he’s a little weak to be guarding other SF’s, but he did do a great job on Butler the other night.

By ‘he’ I mean the acronym ‘CDR’.

we always blow it at the 2nd half

crap i hate this team!!!

Nets suck :D :D :D

Again. Please trade Yi as I am really getting very very tire to be Nets fan.

@Antoine

I think there are other litmus tests for being a starter than doing “a great job on Butler the other night.”

@Jeff

CDR is losing his minutes to Jarvis Hayes who is a more experienced, and talented swingman than he is. He’s no scrub. He’s also not the same type of player that CDR is, and can have more plays run for him (specifically: he is accurate with the corner 3-pointer). CDR does not have an established niche like that beyond being able to drive to the basket. Like I said before, the emphasis is to put the ball in the post and out of his hands. However, there are other ways to contribute (ask the rookie!) and (shockingly!) he’ll have to improve if he wants more minutes.

CDR was benched because he can’t play Iverson and has done little on the offensive end for weeks. Lee and Hayes played good defense and gave the team a chance to win. The third quarter saw the Nets trailing by almost double digits with CDR out there. The results speak for themselves. Now since they have realized they can be competitive on certain nights when they play defense and slow the game down, perhaps they can pull out a few.

CDR should be traded in a deal to bring back some talent(like an Igoudala), not only for the sake of the team but for the sake of his career. I can see what’s happening.

Kiki is god awful. The way he managed the end of this game makes Opie Frank look like Chuck Daly. I honestly have a burning hatred for both Kiki and Rod Thorn for allowing this mess to continue. I would have been fine with Barrise or Loyer as long as the kids learned something and actual coaching was being done.

Can any of you tell me what that last play was that Kiki drew up at the end of the game? That was a joke.

And as far as Harris, this is 3 games in a row, 3 games where the Nets are competitive and play as a unit. We can obviously see who the problem is here, as I’ve said all year.

When harris comes back, that’s when the next blowout will occur. Lets put cash on it, paypal it up if you believe otherwise. Harris’ mentality and approach to the game is an absolute cancer to this team and he can’t be gone soon enough.

And while Yi played fairly well IMO, he needs to FINISH AROUND THE BASKET. I counted 5 missed give me’s at the basket for this kid. That is a lack of mental toughness.

Hayes and T-Willy played solid. I love T-Will’s game. This team runs well IMO when we have the kid running the offense. If T-Will improves to the point where he can play the point in the NBA at a competent level, Harris is 100x expendable.

great game from hayes and not a great game but solid by twill

Some people are still talking about Ryan Anderson? For your information, he is averaging 8.9 points and 3.5 rebounds a game with the Magic. And he is playing with a super center and very good guards. I am sure the Magic wouldn’t mind a straight trade for Yi.

I live in South Jersey and tonight was the fourth game I saw this year. But…

The team definitely played better will TWill in the game. He looks like he is a player. Could see him playing the point next to LeBron. Yi for all the complaining has some skill. He loses him man constantly and can finish around the rim. He could still play with LeBron.

This team has pieces, they need a star and another more physical option at Forward, to relate Yi to a valuable bench role.

They also need a shooter.

Poor game from all of our bigs… Hump, Yi and Brook.

Yes Yi had a nice line, but he must have missed 5 point blank shots…

Brook was hard to watch. Turnovers, forced shots, and a lot of sulking. Probably the worst forced shot of the year for him, a fade away from the top of the key with half the shot clock left. Nice.

Can someone please tell me is Lee one of the worst prospect of all time that involves a trade for a allstar. I’m not even sure if Lee is NBA material.

@ GM Jigga

No offense to Jarvis, but the fact that plays are run for him and not CDR makes a discussion of skills comparison moot. Gotta wait until Jarvis plays 25 games and scores 18-20+ ppg, rebounds and creates plays for himself and others. Hope this happens for Jarvis but do you understand that CDR set the bar and now is not being allowed to play at all?
Way Kiki is coaching, I think Jarvis (or any other Net) will get the opportunity to improve on the record CDR has established, but it doesn’t make it right.

F
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KIKI!!

Hollah

@GMJigga

You’re right, but was just stating that CDR was never a bad defensive player, it’s just that at this point he does not have the physical body to be expected to defend SFs well, which isn’t his fault. However, his D on Butler was encouraging and instead of being rewarded with minutes for his effort, he was benched for most of the game. And he was also playing well before he was yanked…
It’s not fair to say the least but rarely is it ever fair; I do believe that CDR is able to work through this little setback.

@Tim
I am shocked to hear you criticize Yi.

Again I agree with you: I think Kiki changed the style of offense to develop Yi and not CDR. Yi has been his pet project, and the criticism of that has been well discussed on the forum side (you and Netsfan007 can talk for days on Kiki’s preferences).

However I disagree with your opening statement. Having plays being run does not make a discussion of skills moot, in fact the two are directly correlated. CDR does not have Jarvis’ shooting ability, so these plays cannot be run for him. Plays that capitalize on CDR’s skills haven’t been seen lately because of the change in offense that has been discussed so far.

So, again, either CDR becomes more than a one-dimensional scorer or he becomes a connoisseur of Gatorade.

…or maybe Haterade yes yess!

@Antoine

I hope he can! I was ecstatic when we drafted him. Although it’s easy for me to talk about his weaknesses, I don’t really enjoy it. I’d much prefer to talk about how we got a steal, and a future playmaker at SG.

However the ball is in his hands.

the same plays that are run for Jarvis shouldn’t be run for CDR. CDR is a different player

Statr Hayes at the SF, and bring CDR off the bench and if need be run plays for him to get to the basket where he is most effective

and yes, I agree with everyone who says Lee stinks

Since when does CDR make plays for others? Hell, he got mad on people on his twitter for suggesting he become more of a playmaker, instead of constantly looking to score.

@Antoine – your logic baffles me. Play him more tonight because he played well the other night, despite him playing poorly tonight?

If players are playing well on a given night (defensively and/or offensively), you play them more on THAT night. If they play poorly, to the point that they’re hurting the team (specifically on defense), you don’t play them. Shouldn’t it be as simply as that?

Lee barely EVER has plays run for him. He’s the type of player who would be great with plays coming off of screens, too. Yet, you never see him sulking, not trying on defense, or complaining about it publicly.

Instead, he hustles his butt off, and plays better defense than anyone else on the team. Maybe CDR should take note.

t-will gets a dunk and he is a future superstar…yi gets 12 boards and he can’t rebound…

t-will got into the lane for a dunk because of the sixers’ porous defense bec no one was paying attention and he has a lot of potential…and yi “got two follow-up dunks with no one beside him” so that means nothing…

yi’s not starter material but his main fault i guess is not his game but that he was born in china…

Did you see Terrence’s defense, and his improved passing lately?

Those are two things the team is weak at. That is why everyone is looking up to him as someone who could definitely help our team.

All we’re asking for from Yi is to play some defense, and not turn the ball over too much. But mostly defense.

By the way, Terrence did get 11 rebounds….as a 6’6 guard.

I watched the Phila. feed and their announcers said that Yi just wasn’t taught to play when there is contact. They were referring to a case when Yi had to ball under his basket and instead of going up strong for a dunk, he tried to get away from the contact and put up a layup, which missed.

The announcers said that he could be taught by using padding on a defender. I wonder if Nets have anyone teaching this basic stuff.

In any case it appears that there will be some sort of trade before the deadline and I expect Yi and CDR will be gone.

i’m not criticizing t-will i love the guy i am criticizing nets fans who would take every opportunity to dump on yi…i just used t-will as a comparison…

jerry25 – expect, or hope? :D

(For me, it’s hope….bring in some players who will play some defense)

Yi did missed a few shots around the basket area,..so did brook, and others,..

Yi not used to playing around the basket…he sometime tend to rush shots…or hesitent…

Yi need to develop his low post game…Nets should post yi more so he’ll learn…

on this team I doudt it… I hope yi get traded to Phoenix…

Nice weather..:)

CDR always attempts for one or two shots per games? That’s really ridiculous. This guy should attempt more than 15 shots.

Hoopeshype confirms that AI#2 is being shopped, but nothing serious yet with Cleveland.

Iggy has a player option for 2013-2014 for $16 million. Phila. probably would want Nets to take Dalembert’s 12.2 million for next year too, which would destroy ability for Nets to get anyone else. Maybe a 3rd team would take Dalembert.

@hilario

Did you actually watch the first quarter? CDR was playing well, passing the ball and setting some people up nicely, and playing hard defensively. THEN he was pulled out midway…and was not put back in until the 3rd quarter.

Portland could use a big man. I wonder if they could use Darius Miles’ contract in a trade..?

BTW TWolves beat the Knicks so Nets now have a 7 game lead.

This means that if Nets make a deal to improve themselves, they would still have a hard time to catch the TWolves for the best lottery draft pick.

He WAS pulled out midway. And guess what? His replacement off the bench, Jarvis Hayes, actually ended up playing better than him. And the other wing players, Terrence and Lee, were playing better than him at the time.

So what do you expect them to do? Bench the players playing better, just so CDR could get his?

Actually, his replacement in the 1st quarter was TWill, who played well but nothing to warrant that CDR was not playing well. Lee was playing well? He was 2 of 8 from the field, wasting most of his attempts on bricked shots as usual, hurting the Nets’ offensive rhythm. Clearly CDR should have gotten some of Lee’s minutes.

Pretty good game…
Youth is definetly showing
This game was winnable even though the team struggled.
Hump and Yi have limitations, put them both together and you have 1 very good player. Hump can’t shoot the 3 and Yi can’t defend.
Brook needs to be the featured scorer.
 Yi can get shots off the double team. Brook has to get the ball early and often. Brook needs a post play, a pick n roll, high screen and roll, and a face play every quarter. 4 plays. Every quarter.
KiKi is still running plays for Yi, he should be used as a decoy more.
Put Yi behind the 3 pt line. I never see that. I never see yi fee brook the ball in a high low scenario.
CDR? You know… 14 mins 1 3ptr Lee 39 mins…
KiKi should bench one of these guys soon. The SF spot needs a real body. Let hayes start but give CDR or Lee the keys on the b team.
Brook and CDR are looking very thin. Both need to beef up.

The biggest concern i have is that Lopez has got to grow up, he cries at EVERYTHING. He is super talented but needs a strong coach who will control his childish emotions. Yi Lee CDR and TWill are never going to be productive starters in this league. They all try hard at times but each is one dimensional.I can see the effort to try to develop Yi, Lee, and TWill. CDR is a cancer. He can,t play D,he thinks he is the next DR J but he is more like Hassan Adams, he sulks. But he can tweet, complain sarcastically and he wears tatoos well. Lose this slug as fast as possible, after the Nets he will be in China with Swat and Stro, but on the bench. Can someone identify KIKI,s substitution pattern!

Not that anyone cares, but Yi did intercept 2 alleyoop passes for Iggy = 4 points right there. Also 3 put back dunks, and a clutch three pointer that kept the Nets in the game for a couple more possessions. I think he had more than an “okay” game as many previous posters mentioned. Most of those missed “layups” weren’t really all that easy, with a body or two around him. Give the dude his credit.

@ i and some others,

According to you, YI is not a starter, CRD is not, Lee is not. OK, let’s start LOPES. He is such a great player that YI will diminish his play and he can play against the other team alone. Kobe, LBJ, DW are great and their team is not losing. According to you and Lopes himself, Lopes is great, why his team still suck.

I think the biggest problem is LOPES who believe his teammates make him bad. This makes no chemistry in the team and certainly NETS sucks.

summer of 2010 can u plzz hurry up

A team of Harris dooling hayes Lopez and Boone would compete and win games like this. Use hassell Battie, and Simmons in the rotation, Hump sometimes. The rest combined would struggle in the d-league

@ Kobe ok , so now he,s the next D Howard!

if we win out the rest of the year, we still have a losing record…..

@ frank C

How does that make him D Howard? He just had a better game than some give him credit for.

CDR has wasted the biggest opportunity that he will have to showcase his supposed talents on the court. Mark my words…if traded, he will find himself on the end of the bench for most other teams, say the 12th man.

Hayes played exceptional and was the main reason we were in the game. Yi and Brook had some good moments but also some bad moments which hurt the team. Lee played solid defense on the AI’s but continues to be a non-factor offensively. CDR is not fully in it mentally and this was reflected by him playing just 14 minutes. T-Will wasn’t shooting well but again found ways to help the team in other ways by collecting 11 boards and making some nice passes, which is why he played twice as many minutes as CDR. Dooling was solid as usual.

Overall, we lost another close one because our offense was stagnant and completely ineffective in the second half outside of Hayes and we don’t have anyone who we can rely on in crunch time to make clutch shots.

Unfortunately, outside of Vince C, we have not had clutch players for the last five or six years.

hayes looks like vc but clutch he aint…

“By the way, Terrence did get 11 rebounds….as a 6′6 guard.”

btw yi got 3 steals…as a 7’0 forward…who plays “no defense”

How anyone can defend kiki’s treatment of CDr on this team is mind boggling. In a 4th quarter when we are dying to score one of the best scorers on the team that gets to the rim and line pretty much at will is sitting on the bench. yet courtney lee who cant hit a shot to save his soul gets run?

makes no sense!

the lineup in the 4th during that drought should have been:

dooling
cdr
twill
yi
brook

tell cdr only shoot if he is wide open otherwise you want everything at the rim.

lee should be used primarily as a defensive guard.

A 4pt loss with this kind of substitution pattern i am not OK with!

Quinn should never be the ball handler, use him like kerr, just spot up and shoot. he is horrible against pressure.

iggy didnt impress me 1 bit. twill played just as good a game as him tonite.

its only going to get worse when harris comes back.

Our bigs could have done better today but B Lo and Yi still managed 33 points together, which is 42% of what we scored. Brook forced a few shots and Yi missed a few but that’s acceptable. Hump played a terrible game(1-6).Our guards need to do a better job at primeter shooting.

109 posts, and nothing about the motivational speaker who stuck a needle in his cheek? That’s what it feels like watching this team!

Can’t wait til Kiki is gone.

This game was not at all about Yi. He is what he is. He could get better, but I don’t think anything will change that he’s a soft player. He has some valuable offensive skills, but he shies away from contact. For a power forward in the NBA, that’s a horrible trait. He plays very little defense and is not a good rebounder for the position. He wouldn’t be a starter anywhere else in the NBA though…

CDR probably wouldn’t be either. Neither would Lee. Don’t blame a single player. The sum of all the parts just sucks. Lee has really disappointed me, but he could be valuable in the right role. I don’t see any of our wing players as future starters if we’re going to become top contenders, though they all could have roles.

Hump has been on the earth for 2 games now.

CDR should be starting at SG and Terrance or Hayes should start at SF. Lee hass to be benched, he is not as good as it seemed last year.

So CDR is a one trick pony, but Courtney Lee, who is absolutely useless on offense and brings little else to the table other than decent D (not great D either) isn’t a on trick pony?

CDR is hands down the better player. He’s a scorer, he needs to shot more and be more involved on offense to be more effective. But at least he ain’t taking shots he shouldnt. Lee bricks open shots and layups, yet he keep taking them, which is really detrimental to this team. People need to realize how much his offensive struggles hurt this team. He’s not streaky. His offensive game just flat out sucks.

@Nets

“As I’ve mentioned many times. Doesn’t really matter if Yi played good or bad. People are still gonna blame Yi. If Nets won, it is not because of Yi. But if the Nets lost? It is all because of Yi.

So what if Yi has 15 pts at 7/15 shooting, 12 boards, 2 ast and 1 B/S. He still has 4 T/O and that T/Os cost us the game. Am I right"

Aaaaaaaamen.

And Hump is down to earth. He had what 4-5 good games, most of them in blowouts and some here wanted to believe that’d make Yi expendable, lol. Yi himself had a 20 ppg, 7 rpg, 8 game stretch after returning from his injury, and those haters didnt gave him any credit. Hump’s a good hustle player, nothing else. He can’t even dream about having Yi’s skillset. I like them both and think both are keepers, but Yi is obviously the more talented player and there’s no question who’s the starter here. Dave D already made it clear.

if possible,i think not only yi,but everyone else wants to join the trading with PHOENIX.
even still many people blame on yi that he is kinda soft and other weaks,but he is realy the a hardest player on the court in nets.
this is it ,this is the team, this is just nets what is it now.
not asking so much is better to everyone,both the players and nfs.

Yi shies away from contact because he gets called for fouls if he even breathes on an opposing player. Even still, he’s generally very good at getting to the foul line. He played pretty good defense on Elton Brand last night, too, as well as breaking up two 2-on-1 fast breaks by the Sixers…

Yi is what kept us in the game today. People say his defense is awful, but today he played really well on the defensive end. Yi got many interceptions that saved us fast break points. If it wasn’t for him, we’d probably have lost by more than 10. Yi was solid in rebounding and he got a few blocks too. The man got a double-double and there are still some bashers on here. The shots that he missed however, they were just went in and out, it’s not like he air-balled them. I think Yi can still improve, but nice double-double today. IF you guys notice, the last couple of games are more competitve. Before, you guys were bashing about how we were losing by 25 per game. It takes time. I’m glad we’re not getting blown out in the last couple of games. We just need a little more push and maybe we can get a few wins – just enough to pass the sixers for the all-time worst record.

Btw, did any of you see that pass Dooling made to Lopez and he finished with a left hand alley-oop? That was really a spectacular play and Lopez showed he has more athetlicism than people give him credit for. Definitely the play of the night.

I agree w/ JJ22.
After watching the game again on my TiVO, Yi does show great defensive effort.

@Agent O

You watched the game twice? OMG.

Andres,

You know what, I agree with you. Not only does CDR suck, yet CLee sucks as well. Happy now? Both players should be limited to 15-20 minutes a game off the bench and I am willing to bet they would both produce more than what they were as starters. When you are handed something without earning it, you tend not to give it your all. Don’t give me that CDR earned it in preseason…..all he earned was a spot on the team as he would have been cut otherwise.

Terrence Williams is much better than CDR.

I think we could give a chance to KIKI, now we do a better game than the last moonth

@italianice

aglee…I really wanna know whats going on in his mind.

I would not suprise if cdr is buried under the bench, this guy only played 15mins last night, but whenever he held the ball it seemed to be a torture to me and himself: cant hold it, wont pass, didnt shoot, play the ball like cat flirting mouse and finally lost it or at the last second threw it to some random people.

@ what to do.

i was talking about this specific game.CDR and Lee are two of my favorite nets and i want them to start. if CDR excaels at the 6th man role im fine witht that. Yi, though, should not start bcuz he is built more to be a 3 and unless he bnulks up and gets aggresive does not deserve to be a 4.