i wonder if there will be a weapons patdown and vodka served???

SWEET!

Prokhorov in control can not come soon enough!

1. on the agenda – make a decision on Thorn – I am still guessing a two year contract to ease the ownership transition and manage the long list of transactions (trades, FAs, drafts, coach, cap space, labor dispute) in the coming two years.

1. on the agenda – find a coach. I dont care if Kiki runs out the season “developing the kids”, but make it clear who will be in charge before free agents get serious about considering new teams and before we rush any trades.

@Jay
That’s about right. Thorn turns 69 this year.

1. on the agenda – trade Devin Harris and whatever else within reason for A.I.

this is the greatest news Nets fans have heard in a while….. ohhhh man what i would do to be in that meeting….

Porky: Who are you?
Thorn: I’m Rod Thorn… you know the man who drafted MJ
Porky: Wasnt that in the 80s ?
Thorn: Also drafted Brook Lopez
Porky: (pause)…Very Nice

And that is how Rod Thorn saves his job
please note this is just a joke

Dont need to and I doubt the Nets would anyway.

trade Harris + for A.I.?

A.I. makes the vet’s minimum and almost retired cuz no one seemed to want him. Don’t trade a good player for him.

Although in my ideal world he’d be a really good off-season pickup if everything else goes well (get Wall, trade Harris, Yi, and Lee for premiere big man, and sign James or Wade).

I imagine a lineup something like

Wall
Iverson
James
P. Gasol
Lopez

Yes… it is all dependent on the #1 pick.

Think he meant Andre Iguodala.

paul b

he means Iggy, the other AI on philly….I agree with the rest of what you said….

Philly is looking for all the things teams look for when they go out to start rebuilding: expiring contracts, draft choices, a good young player, cash and maybe a trade exception. And like the Nets with Kidd, you trade your biggest chip first.

Philly is not negotiating from a position of strength. Iggy is their best player but neither side is happy with the other. They have the worst attendance, as a percentage of seats filled, in the NBA, worse than the Nets. They NEED to dump salary.

It makes no sense, if you’re the Nets, to limit yourself at the deadline to stars who will be free agents. If you trade for Amar’e or Boozer or Bosh, you get a player who you’ll have to resign in July for big bucks. Iguodala turned 26 this week and has a reasonable contract. He is a very complete player, one of the best on-ball defenders in the NBA, says John Schuhmann of NBA.com

Whoever gets him will give up less than you think they will. Cavs want him for the playoffs. He is perfect for them, but they don’t have extra picks and while Ilgauskas works, the Cavs want him back. How does that deal help the Sixers? I have to think Stefanski would want someone like Hickson in return as well. Doubt they’ll get him.

Back in 2004, no one even mentioned the Nets in the Carter trade discussion, then whamo, they get him for trinkets and baubles. The Raptors bit the bullet and dumped Carter.

It should be a wild and wolly next couple of years with lots of player movements that no one would have considered as recently as last year.

Who really knows how broke some of these owners are. And who really knows how ugly labor negotiations will get. And what the cap environment will look like in two years. You can predict a lot of unpredictability.

Good to have a team with lots of assets: richest owner, young talent on good contracts, expiring contracts, draft picks and a soon-to-be-secure future in Brooklyn. I understand more why Rod is pushing perceptions back to 2011. We might be in an even stronger position after the dust settles and players wake up to how much weaker their position might be – second teir free agents are not going to get $12 million per year. And owners will find that trinkes and baubles may be all you can get for inflated existing contracts that are bankrupting your team and/or killing progress in a lower/hard cap environment.

In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king – say hello to your Brooklyn Cyclops.

‘he means Iggy’

Indeed. There are few players I loathe more than Iverson.

if we get iggy do you still target gay?

harris
iggy
twill
?
lopez

It is apparent that trades can proceed without Proky’s formal approval by NBA. Nets are in good shape with a 6 game lead over TWolves for best draft lottery position. Will Proky wish to avoid history, while preparing team for next year?

I suspect that Thorn, if the final trade has not been completed, will be going over all the options face to face this time, instead of through consultants.

The logical person to be included in this last trade is Yi, to save 4 million and since he wouldn’t be happy next year with limited PT anyway. Maybe a 3 team deal, but I doubt if Nets will get a Big/Expensive Name at deadline, before knowing where they stand in the draft.

A new coach is the big decision that Proky has to interview and finalize himself. If the options include candidates who aren’t presently coaching, then I see no reason to delay.

Apparently, even if Proky is approved, he won’t be Majority Owner until more paperwork is signed, which won’t happen until no uncertainties remain with Barclays – namely the condemnation and leveling of ground zero. I suppose Prokhorov can be given some other Title in the Interim, before he signs off on the Nets future.

Nets should do what it takes to get Iggy. Thorn, make a serious offer.

Yormark will never want to part with Yi. However,Proky doesn’t need Yi or Yormark. Say goodbye to both.

Nets need a Power forward more than Iggy, though I love iggy’s game: reminds me of RJ! Fire Kiki. Give Thorn a short leash, as he grooms another GM and Pres. Get a PF!

andre iguodala so far is averaging 17/7/6…solid numbers and comparable to gay. But his contract runs to the ‘12-’13 season. would nets do it???

09-10:$12,200,000
        
10-11:$12,345,250
        
11-12:$13,531,750
        
12-13:$14,718,25

‘solid numbers and comparable to gay’

Except that, defensively, the gap between them would make the Grand Canyon blush.

i would offer simmons+cdr or lee+this years mavs pick+couple other picks as well.

Igoudala is a complete player,which is what you need for championship pieces. I’m not saying he’s a #1 guy to take us to the promise land ,but he isn’t just an offensive player. Scores,passes, rebounds well and plays D. That’s what I’m talking about.

I’d take him over Gay in a hearbeat.

Iggy would be a GREAT fit for the nets. The PF situation is still kinda shaky though. i dont think amare fits, but a guy like jared jeffries who cleans up the glass and plays D might be a nice fit. It all depends on if we get wall

Jared Jeffries? bahahahaha Come on man, try again. If you’re gonna name names for the sake of it, at least come up with a guy like Brandon Bass or anything. Sheesh. I’d rather have Boone as my starting power forward than Jeffries.

So AI#2 is owed 40.5 million after this year, for next 3 years.

Nets might have to trade Yi, just to have enough cap space to be sure to be able to sign DLee (assuming Nets keep Dooling)

I would give up CDR since he wouldn’t get to play anyway.
AI was all over Harris during his shot of the decade, last year. He would be an upgrade on RJ and is 3 1/2 years younger. It would be fitting to include Yi, so that we could say that RJ was traded for AI#2.

All of a sudden, LeBron might become interested (when no money would be left to sign him). However, doesn’t putting AI#2 at SF leave out possibility of LeBron, unless AI moves back to SG?

This move would also impact draft as Turner would have to play SG which isn’t so bad. Wesley Johnson though wouldn’t work out.

I seriously doubt Phila would do it before deadline without getting more back, like Harris. If it happened after season, would Nets be able to absorb AI’s salary since Nets would no longer have any expensive contracts to match salaries?

gerard himself

LOL not really jeffries! a PF who has skills like jeffries but at the same time is NOT a defensive liability. Perhaps a Udonis Haslem or Tryus Thomas. I dont want amare, boozer, or bosh, simply bcuz, all three are sub-par defensive players. Rather have Haslem or thomas and develop them, unleash there full potential of the Nets.

thats what i mean. =]

If we do get AI…then if we dont get wall…could take a chance on favors.

probly wont happen but:

Yi, Simmons, dallas pick, warriors pick
for
Iggy

Iguodala is MUCH better than Gay. He plays defense, he passes, and he rebounds (from the SG position, too). His only real weakness is that he is not a good shooter – that said, his TS% is the exact same as Gay.

And if you look at the salaries he is due, posted above, I think that is about what we would have to pay for Gay.

That said, the Sixers really need a Point Guard. And, unless we are going to trade Devin, we don’t have one to give them.

Still not clear about approval by 23/30 owners, possibly at All Star break.

Its pretty difficult to get 30 important people to be able to arrange their schedules to meet at same time. The All Star break makes the most sense, but if 8 owners can’t make it does that mean that Proky can’t be approved?

Does everyone have to be present or can they vote via a teleconference, etc.?

I wonder how many owners were present at the October meeting with Proky and the Board?

Mitch Lawrence writes that the meeting could be in March, but from reading his stuff, he seems to like to merge the writings of others into his own thoughts.

In anycase, approval should be ASAP to both demoralize the
attempts of DDDB to delay further and also to start interviewing for a new coach.

@Andy
I would rather have Cousins over Favors because Cousins seems to be improving as year goes on, which is a good sign when comparing two Freshmen.
Favors might be a project, but I don’t care if he can win a dunk contest.

Wall doesn’t appear to be improving, from what I have seen, so I would look closely at Turner for the #1 pick. Turner seems comfortable as a SG who will pass and rebound, just as Vince did for the Nets.

If Nets could somehow get AI#2, Turner and DLee and retain Harris, CLee, TWill and Dooling, then Nets would be a heck of a rebounding team. LeBron would want to come to that Nets team, but might be too late.

BTW, I see that Evan Turner and Ohio State are playing at 1PM on CBS this afternoon!

I must be the only one that doesn’t want AI on the Nets. He is a nice player and all but I would prefer if the Nets take the OKC, Portland approach and build through the draft and develop their young players. Just because the Nets have cap space it doesn’t mean WE HAVE TO SPEND IT.

^
We have cap space, so we should spend it on other good young player who show more potential and build a franchise around them. the nets franchise is confused right now, to put it nicely. We are still trying to develop a team that we can build around instead of constantly having to break up the nucleus

I am watching Evan Turner on CBS now.

Wall is the consolation prize.

The number # draft pick for 2010 is EVAN TURNER.
He will be better than Durant. More like a cross between Kobe and Magic.

Turner is everywhere – steals, assists, rebounds (averages 10 per game as a PG!!!), scores at will. He just doesn’t have a 43" standing jump, but doesn’t need one because he is a legit. 6’7". But being a Junior, he is ranked behind Wall on the notion that Wall will get much better.

I’ll take the cross between Kobe and Magic over a Possible cross between DWade and Chris Paul.

^^I agree turner looks like his game will fit easier into the NBA that wall. This dude is amazing.

@ Says

If we waste on Iggy then what? Will that make us better, we have a guy on our roster that does similar things like Iggy, his name is CDR, I would rather give him the minutes and let him develop and get better than overpay Iggy and stunt CDR’s development, all this team needs is a bonafied superstar, which either Wall or Turner can be. We get one of those guys or even Favors and we can go from there. We have a bunch of other solid youngsters and solid vets. It would be better served to save the capspace of we cant get LeBron or Wade and use it for when our youngsters need it.

@ Jerffries, Thomas etc. Just what we need more bad players.

@robert
yes iunderstand what you mean. I too am a fan of CDR’s, a huge one. I want Iggy to play the 3, chris will play the 2. I dont want Yi, but i am most definately willing to build around harri, pez, CDR, lee, iggy and a olid 4, from there we hould build through the draft OR use our money wiely on a superstar to get good quick rather then spend years developing a guy

@Robert

“If we waste on Iggy then what? Will that make us better, we have a guy on our roster that does similar things like Iggy, his name is CDR”

That’s like saying we should’t go after Dirk because they have a similar player in Yi.

Iguodala is a MUCH better player than CDR and only 3 years older. Besides, they’re not similar at all.

Iguodala is a two-way player, one of the best defenders in the league, and has a much more complete offensive game than CDR.

CDR takes 6.2 shots for every assist he records.
Iguodala takes 2.5 shots for every assist he records.

@ Onion

Iguodala has been in the league for 5 years.
CDR has been in the league for 1 year.

Iguodala makes $12,200,000 this year; $15,959,000 next year.
CDR makes $736,420 this year; $854,389 next year (team opt)

Current stats are:

Iguodala – 17.2 ppg; 6.80 rpg; 5.7 apg
     CDR – 13.4 ppg; 4.2 rpg; 1.9 apg

Do these stats suggest that Iguodala is worth $11.4 MILLION dollars MORE than CDR? I don’t think so.

Also, CDR had BETTER stats than Iguodala in the 2 games they’ve played each other. I still remember CDR’s hellacious block on Iggy.

I say CDR has shown the potential to be a better NBA player after his rookie year than Iguodala’s growth after 5 years in the league. Certainly, dollar for dollar, CDR’s the bargain.

How many times has CDR led his team to the playoffs?

Better yet, how many times has CDR led his team to a WIN?

I’d rather go with the guy that has shown RESULTS, not potential. I’d take Iggy over CDR 8 days of the week.

@ Jeff

Most of us here care about the success of the Nets, not just one player. CDR is a bargain, sure, but Iguodala would make the Nets a better team, whether we have CDR or not.

Like I said, Iguodala is a much more complete player than CDR, with defense and passing being the key differences between the two.

Who says Iggy is available? Just conjecture, but hope Thorn is working on it.

Iggy+Turner+DLee and lose Yi and CDR + Dallas pick would be just fine.

Jerry25,
agreed, except keep CDR, trade Simmons or Lee or another young talent. NOt douglas roberts

I say if you pick up Iggy, CDR can go and Lee should stay because Lee can fit into a team system more as a guy who can move well without the ball.

Btw, if we pick up Iggy we more likely than not have to pick up Dalembert in the same deal. You guys think Dalembert would work out well for us for a year??? His contract ends at the end of next season.

For a year…why not? Dal would make a good backup Center, maybe playing alongside Brook for VERY short periods of time.

SO off topic, but when we move to Brooklyn why take a page out of the Warrior’s book and name our team after neither city nor state, but by state nickname. We could be the Empire State Nets (my girlfriend’s idea). Jay Z would love it. LeBron would love it. It just sounds good and it could ignite a cross country rivalry with the state-nicknamed Warriors.

The trade for A.I. makes sense within the management scheme that has become evident: to keep Lopez and Yi as starters for the next several years no matter what. All trades, drafts, and signings will be part of the twin towers strategy. The only possibility I can see to derail the Yi/Lopez future is if management realizes that they don’t play well together and, maybe, don’t seem to like each other much. A.I. does not disrupt the twin towers future, so he is a real option.

I love CDR, but CDR better than Iguodala? And we’re making assumption based on CDR’s potential? Didn’t hoping Swat would be a good player because of his potential shoot us in the leg?

The way I see it, Iguodala has led his teams to the playoffs before, has a very good offensive game (if he is not the focal point, which he is in Philly and wouldn’t be in NJ), can rebound the ball exceptionally for a guard, is a playmaker that can distribute which we really need, and is a force on the defensive side of the ball. And btw, he just turned 26 3 days ago, so he is still very young. CDR is a good offensive player, but that’s it. Even if CDR has a better offensive game than AI, everything else in CDR’s game is average to below average.

wow turner is such a polished player… very sharp and makes his teammates better. Saw as much out of him as i saw out of wall, if not more

I like CDR but Igoudala is a better player overall and is a legitimate starting SF. CDR is a shooting guard whom would probably excel in a 6th man scoring role.

He would fill a huge need for us at that position.

Hopefully, Thorn is looking into acquiring this kid. He would fit in with our current plans.

After that, we would need to shore up the PF position since our backcourt should be strengthened by the draft.

Trade for AI and Robin Lopez,Get joe johnson and D,Lee as FA,plus top draft pick!

Devin Harris, Bobby Simmons and Tony Battie for Iggy and Dalembert.

Brook/Dalembert
Yi (for now)/Humphries
Iggy/Twill
CDR/Lee
Dooling/Quin

We’d be a better reboundinf team but still lack perimeter shooting.
In the offseason they could target Raymond Felton and Rasual Butler. Any draft pick they get would add depth unless they get Turner he’d start.

no way man^^^

anyway only 2 weeks til proky becomes aproved…let the count down begin.

Yi can’t play interior d nor close out shooters. He should be 2nd unit. And does anyone still doubt me that twill should be our starting pg? Oh and 2 straight turnovers by Yi

Man I need some place vent my anger. Yi has the worst hands in the team. Cannot catch anything.

Trade Harris, CDR, Yi Dallas First, and GS first for Philadelphia’s 1st, Iguodala, and Sam I Am. Then CDR can finally represent the city of Detroit with pride without haters crampin’ his style and getting paid and handling the media like a pro yes yess!

yi/carter teade exception for ryan anderson and jj redick

I like trading for iggy. Would offer Simmons expiring and Dallas pick. In this economy philly not getting more and he is worlds better than gay and signed. I expect gay to get a big deal as knicks overspend. And watch how quick kiki now pulls Yi. Yi no longer viewed as the future. And twill needs 30 min a nite at pg. His future position is as pg

Will you guys forget Yi being traded or demoted to the bench next year. Please. Figure out how to win with that in mind.

^
Yi fan??

That’s why Yi is never out sick….He can’t even catch a cold…….

We suck. But…..it could be worse.

The combined stats of Yi+Lee are basically a wash with those of Vince and RJ. Lets assume we still would have won more games with Vince and RJ because they are more experienced pros – I could argue against this given they are both underperforming something fierce on teams that are legitimate title contenders. Where would we be if we did not make the trades?

We would still suck. But we would have enough wins to be talking about the 3rd or 4th pick in the draft and not studs Wall and Turner. We would have a messed up cap with no talk about bringing in big name free agents or mid level free agents for that matter.

We suck….but we have hope – real legitimate hope….and lots of stuff to post about.

tony battie and Yi for AI#2 seems to work in NBA trade Machine :D

and mayb a pick or 2

@ eh-dee – Mark my words – Andre Iguodala is going to Cleveland.