Go Go Nets.

Bosh said he doesn’t want to go to Nets, so if he’s traded to here, will he play hard? LOL

I can’t imagine them NOT calling these teams. It’s the prudent thing to do.

“With free agents less likely to come here”…the players have one thing in common, they all wanna get paid. Our money is just as green, not too mention our situation is better than most..the richest owner in the game, a new arena in New York, a young team {where they will can be the star}in the biggest city. As long as we have cap space, + target the right players, this situation isn’t that tough to sell. When next year comes,the motto will be “last year was last year”.

Unless it’s a “no brainer” we should not make a “big” deal. We should wait until the summer. Meanwhile, if you can’t take the losing don’t watch. LOL

Out of those 3.. Bosh please!

I wouldnt even bother trying to get Boozer or Bosh. They dont wont to come here, and they wouldnt be happy if they were traded to the Nets.

Stat is another story. Id rather hold onto our assets, but I wouldnt mind getting him as long as he doesnt cost us more than Yi, Lee and the Mavs pick. But again, I think itd be better to keep those assets and try to sign him outright in the summer

I think the strategy of trying to get a big FA right now is smart. That way it could give players like Bosh some time to change their mind come summer.

To me, they have come this far…I still hold out hope to land Wall, clear some more cap space with a trade of Harris, and then bring over Lebron and Bosh to team up with Wall/Turner, Brook, and TWill…with Lee and CDR and Humpries being good role players. Its not likely to happen but I don’t see it as the impossibility that it is being made out to be.

@Andres if you’re cool with Yi, Lee, and the Mavs Pick you wouldn’t mind tossing in Simmons too I’m sure. He’s got to be included to make the salaries work. I’d even throw in a future second rounder.

I really don’t understand people on this board saying stuff like “wait” and “save our assets”. For what? Honestly if we don;t do a deal now we are going to be looking at another year of Yi at PF. We will still be terrible. Having a star player already in place – and Amare is definitely worth Yi (will we actually miss him?), Lee (not a feature player, and he hasn’t improved at all this year and he turns 25 next October), and the Mav’s pick will be only a couple of slots higher than our second rounder, no big deal – will attract others. Let’s say we get Amare and give up those players I mentioned. We still have Devin Harris, CDR, TWill, Brook Lopez, Amare Stoudemire, Kris Humphries, Keyon Dooling, Josh Boone, Jarvis Hayes, Chris Quinn, Trenton Hassell, Tony Battie, a top 4 pick, the first pick in the second round, and a ton of cap space.

Our lineup after the trade might look like this:

Harris——Dooling—-Quinn
CDR——Hassell—-Amare filler
Williams——Hayes
Amare—-Humphries
Lopez——Boone—-Tony Battie

add some 10-day contracts into the mix (Morris Almond?)and we’re in pretty good shape.

We have the money to get LeBron and maybe he comes, but we also have the money for Gay. We may not get Wall, but we could get Wesley Johnson or Evan Turner.

Worst Case:

Harris—-Dooling
CDR—-Turner/Johnson
Gay—-TWill
Amare—Humphries
Lopez—-Second Rounder

Best Case:

Harris—-Wall
CDR—-Dooling
LeBron—-TWill
Amare—-Humphries
Lopez—-Second Rounder

WOW!

So essentially the Nets would trade away a bunch of talent just for the ability to offer Bosh/Amare/Boozer more money than other teams (their Bird rights). This is icredibly foolish, and does not guarantee that these guys will sign with the Nets. What happens if we package Yi, Lee or CDR, and the Mavs 1st rounder for one of these guys over the next couple weeks, and they bolt during the off-season? Then we just lost all of that for nothing. This is too big of a gamble, and unless Thorn was able to secure an extension for one of the players right when the trade is announced, I would think this is not worth the risk.

Boozer and Amare have questions mark. Bosh obviously does not want to play for Toronto and has his eyes set somewhere else… Miami? LA?

If Boozer and Amare where so great their teams would not be letting them go.

Why overpay now for players that may be out there come July, without having to pay their teams squat.

If the Nets don’t land Amare or Boozer by the end of the trade deadline, who cares…

P.S. I don’t think the Nets want to or will trade Yi…

I’m pretty sure making any of these deals is contingent on the traded for player agreeing to an extension. I agree that it would be foolish without such an agreement in place. I believe that Amare will take the money we can offer him and that still leaves us with roughly enough for a max player, and a mid level. (but it’s whatever. We got Proky’s money now)

Bosh is one of the most overrated player in the FA market. If you look at history he puts up good number but when come playoff time he disappears. Over the course of his career in the Raptors they have two 1 round losses with Bosh not playing well. I would never paid max for this guy.

I still think we should wait till the FA begin then pick up.
I personally perfer Amare over Bosh and Boozer any day. Amare, John Wall would be a great addition.

The rest I would fill out the cap with nice role bench players.

Amare still has another year on his contract if the Nets trade for him maybe he doesn’t opt out.
Since he wants to play in a large market if the team has a good offseason maybe he sticks around.

Put him next to Brook with Humphries backing him up that’s a good frontline. Add the best big man in the draft and trade Devin, Dallas pick and Coourtney Lee for a small forwar and shooting guard.

GO trade Yi Jian Lian and Courtney Lee for Amare!!! Throw-in Bobby Simmons expiring contract also instead of a draft pick if they also ask for a draft pick to go with Lee and Yi.

With Proky up in the air until April it’s doubtful they do anything major like this until the summer. I like Amare but he reminds of Kmart a lot, and he never brought us a title. I would much rather a more well rounded PF like Boozer or Bosh. Bosh seems to be the best fit for the Nets age and skillwise, getting him to sign with the Nets will take big bucks. It’s going to get very interesting. Hopefully Thorn makes up for his atrocious drafting the past 10 years.

I am totally against trading for these guys.

2 out of 3 have already said they dont want to be here. If we do trade for them, why would they stay. All I have to say is Brand and Baron Davis. Davis thought Brand was going to stay and then he bolt to the 76ers leaving Davis by himself. So there are no guarantees.

I say wait until draft selection then start figuring it out.

Trade everyone you can… don’t give up on Devin yet… Cya CDR, BS, Yi, Boone, and Dooling… just don’t trade Sly.

Will J

I like your best case scenario, but if we get Wall, why not trade Harris for a legit shooter at the 2 spot? Harris and CDR are not the best spot up shooters…There are plenty of shooters out there for Harris’ kinda salary….

I think we would be more complete this way….You could then you can have Dooling back up Wall and CDR backup the sg.

do not give up the draft picks in these trades….the late 1st rounder will give us a good pf/c or sg….

I just hope mgt. can put together a solid core this time around. Even when we went to the finals we had Jason Collins at P/F. When you look at teams like Dallas, San Antonio and L.A. it’s always felt like we weren’t even close talent wise.

if there’s anyone who you could trust to keep his word about resigning, it’s Mr. Carlos “I steal from blind men” Boozer.

johnfried

that’s a good point. I just posted it that way because I was already stacking up the hypotheticals (trading for amare, getting wall, getting lebron) so i figured that, at this point, i’d keep harris. Though I wouldn’t mind trading Harris for Kevin Martin. Harris can slide in at the PG slot and make Tyreke a definite 2. We then are looking at Wall, Martin, LeBron, Amare, and Lopez.

And people thought the best turnaround in history was the 07/08 Celtics…

The Nets have to make a move for Stoudemire. If they sit on their hands they will be screwed this summer

Who needs Amare? We have Humphries! Yi can be 6th man of the year in 2010 (ha-ha).

The 07/08 Celtics made it because they had a complete transformation of team culture. Every single guy bought into the concept. Looking at the guys we’re targeting now, they aren’t exactly complete leaders now are they? I do not expect any dramatic change even if we do sign or trade a big name unless they’re LeBron (who we aren’t getting, c’mon Jay-Z doesn’t even go to nets games anymore, we’re not exactly something everyone wants to associate with)

Nets need that first piece in order to have a chance at free agents. Amare would be happy to come here, the others would take convincing. Thorn will need to overpay ONLY for this 1st big piece. The max free agent and an elite prospect (Nets will pick top 4) can be had without giving up anything. But NEts need to trade for the 1st piece now, IMO, in order to make this an attractive destination

If Amare really wants to play for us, all he has to do is not sign a contract extension for the team that decides to trade for him. No team will trade for him then, and the Nets would get him for free. Rod Thorn even eluded to this the other day.

And if I am LeBron, Wade or Bosh, I am not going to sign or not sign with the Nets because of Amare being on the team, especially if I’m Bosh.

If the Nets think Amare is worth the price they will go after him and get him. I believe the Nets have serious doubts.

We will find out soon enough…

How can anyone be against trading draft picks in the late first round given Rod’s recent draft history? It would be terrible if we missed out on the chance to get the next Josh Boone/Marcus Williams/ Zoran Planninich. The only good picks later than 10 were Ryan Anderson and CDR.Both could be replaced easily.

Couldn’t agree more Hammer.

Make the trade!! the enitre atmosphere and outlook of this team will change with a big trade an extensions. Let Amare lopez and humphries go nuts with williams dishing it to them. we will win many more than we are now. and we can begin to develop as system for next year and the new players coming in.

I am with Will J. Having a birds rights for Amere only is great thing!!!

Now you can sign Joe Johnson or Gay and then your team is moving. Picture this:

Harris- wall #1 draft pick
JOhnson –
Twill
Amere
Lopez

I like that.

Hammer/Brett

Look at other later round picks, including 2nd rounders…There are plenty to list that we totally missed. I think we have enough expiring contracts and young talent to throw at Phx.

I would love to have DeJuan Blaire right now starting at the pf spot, bad knees and all.

Amare is just too risky. Balky knee, reduced effort…potential head case if we stink next year too. I wait until the draft, trades will be available then for Yi, Lee, picks etc. and be patient for free agents. Too risky to deal now and bring marquis into this environment and poison them enough so they want out quicklly

There’s a good chance that phx wants to move amare not because he won’t resign with them, but because he won’t opt out of his player option. That’s 18 million they didn’t plan on having to pay. With the nba owners talking lowering salaries in the next cba so a guy like amare would only get 5-6 million a year, he might not want to risk losing out on his cash

What about Yi at Small Forward ??….Or coming off the bench at small Forward…I think that he can give us 10-12 points off the bench….I would rather we brought him off the bench than just give him away….This will give him more time to develop without hurting our team and we can still keep Yi’s fans…..

NetFan48

I suggested Yi at the 3 a fews ago too….He won’t get pushed around there.

Agreed!

I think we need to know there’s a good 90% chance or so that whoever we trade for will stay.

Because if they don’t stay and we don’t get Wall, we are boned. We’re worse off than we are now.

Only 25% chance we get Wall. We can’t except another similarly low probability of re-signing whoever we give up assets for.

On the bright side, if they’re willing to stay and we get Wall, we could totally trade Harris for someone else very very good and still have the $$$$ for another marquis player and end up with 3 All-Star or near All-Star starters, not including Lopez.

accept. my bad

paul b

that’s the ideal situation….

We could have 5 all-stars:

Wall
all-star shooter
LBJ
Amara
BLo

We would be over the cap, but Proky would probably do it…

@ johnfried

We might not be much over the cap.

We have the dough for 2 max FAs and any trade involving Harris would have to be within whatever financial parameters the NBA sets.

The problem might be that there’s not a lot of cash left to pay Lopez, but we’d have 2 yrs before needing to worry about that.

But that is the best possible situation. The worst possible thing would be a trade now, the big name doesn’t sign, and we don’t get Wall.

We should only do a deal if it is very very probable that whoever we get will re-sign.

… so Bosh would probably be a bad idea, even if he is the best player of the three.