Amar'e Talks "Not Serious"

bleh of course!

get Amare!

Who cares about Yi!!! I’m done with “developing” him. Trade him now while you can still get something like AMARE for him! Come on now!

Here’s what I think. The Nets are looking at other players who could bring them immediate value. But why give up assets for Amar’e now when you could, if you want to, try to sign him this summer? And I am not sure Thorn likes him that much anyway, as he noted last year at this time: his rebounding and defense are mediocre and he plays more like a center than a power forward. Nets don’t need a center.

Look around at poor teams with cash problems who have been trying to dump good players with long term contracts aka “salary dumps”. Philly for example is trying to dump Brand, Dalembert, even Iguoudala.

I think we should go for it. At this point, we have nothing to lose. I think that it’ll hurt us in the long if we don’t do this. With amare, were definitely not breaking that record. I think he should pull the trigger, the upside for this deal is ridicolous lol

Isn’t A.I. signed to a max contract?

Brand’s contract might be the worst in the NBA. Nobody will touch that one.

Only the Nets could refuse amar’e for a trash-style-like player such as Yi….

as ill always say: Nets Suck!!! :D :D :D :D :D

yi is living a dream having 15-7-0.6

but the guy lacks of spirit, consistency, vision, agresiveness, All-star renowned, everything!!!!!

id say that we should trade; Hassell, Simmons, Dallas pick, Boone, a future pick, cash and i like the boy but new comer humphries can be the bait for amar’e… buth i rather have him here than see a decent bench shipped away.

yi can play support for amar’e

i guess 3-79 is what we’re really shooting for…

Starter / Bench

Lopez / Humphries
Amar’e / yi
CDR / Twill
Clee / Dooling
Harris / Quinn

waive or send in the trade to phx Battie

but plz trade Hassell, Battie, Boone, Simmons

we wont break the record + we will have faith that amar’e will make the team more atractive and lebron and/or wade will like to try and sign with us

still we are the Nets, it wont be done

Team sucks, Nets suck!!! :D :D :D :D

@TWilliam
AI is owed $12.3 million next season…not a max deal. If you trade him for an expiring contract (Simmons), a young player (TWill? CLee?), a pick and cash, you’d get a very good player who turns 26 tomorrow. I’d rather do that than go for Amar’e, who you’d have to pay $14 million to keep and you’d still have $13 or $14 million to play with once it all nets out.

Rod offered them BS+HUMP+Quinn+future 2ND ROUND pick and Kerr countered with Yi+Clee+Twill+nets 1st round pick lol!

Yeah, but they are increasingly desperate financially and may move anything they can. Worst attendance in the NBA, hemorrhaging cash and an owner, Comcast, who needs to consolidate its assets after deciding to buy NBC. Iverson thing didn’t bear fruit financially or on the court. I suspect they would like to sell and teams that want to sell reduce their long term debt first.

Desperate men do desperate things. With so many teams in truly desperate shape, strange things could happen between now and February 18.

“AI is owed $12.3 million next season…not a max deal.”

Well, then he’s obviously someone i’d want. That’s a very fair contract for someone with his talent.

And yes, i’d rather have him at that contract than Amar’e.

MAN……..if we get iggy instead i am going to lose my mind. one of my favorite players in the league.

I just want us to do something to make us a contender next season. this season is a wrap.

does iggy help us win though? i dont see what he really brings to this team that changes things for us besides he is a great finisher and a pretty good defender. he is what i thought twill would be.

i think we should make a trade this deadline…yi is putting up attractive numbers…we have some young talent like lee…large expiring contracts…and picks MANY OF THEM.

I actually think its a good idea not to trade for him if you really think about it. Why trade Yi now when he’s playing decent basketball. He’s only what 21, 22 unknown but still very young. Defense you can teach you can’t teach offense and he has a good offensive game for a bigman. Furthermore why trade young potential for a guy we could sign this offseason which is only a couple months away while keeping all our young guys we have noting to lose so getting Amar’e now doesn’t make sense. Thorn is a very smart man and I see something big and smart happening very soon.

Disappointed Knicks not biting on Amare trade.

Still think Knicks will let DLee go at beginning of free agency?

Who do Knicks think they can get who is better than DLee? Bosh? Raptors would trade Bosh if they really believed he would walk at end of year. Raptors are playing well.

No way LeBron goes to Knicks w/o another star and they would have to lose DLee to get that star. Knicks don’t have cap space for both anyway.

Yet even if Knicks make offer to keep DLee, couldn’t Proky beat that offer if desired?

This is why Knicks should be shopping DLee now.

While I don’t think we will make a move till the summer cuz we want a top 4 pick, there is no way Proky is going next year with Yi as his starting PF. Outside of Lebron I don’t see any FA coming here for various reasons that could make us a title contender. I see the Knicks doing something desperate and signing an overrated PF or doing a deal like Philly wants. We have to be patient. There is only 3 or 4 players in the league that can make you a serious contender and to me only one might be available in 2010. I still say improve with trades and picks.
Did anyone watch PTI last night? They interviewed Jim Boeheim and he said that the reason they have improved this year was cuz they simply got taller at three positions. The guy knows the game. That’s why Yi should play the SF! That’s why you draft a big and not a guard with the #1 pick when your team can’t defend or rebound.

NI:

I know that’s not your opinion, but if the Nets front office is thinking this way… this can only mean they are very certain Lebron is not coming.

Oh well… it was a dream

I wouldn’t trade Lee and Yi for Amare. Yi’s a keeper, and he’s scoring just 5 less a game then Amare, on a bad team… and he’s 22, or 28, or 50… whatever. But if we can get this done without getting rid of Yi.. it would be much better.

I think Rod is hesitant to pull the trigger on Amare because its true that Amare is not the rebounder or defender Rod would like next to Brook. Its a risk giving Amare the max deal he probably wants. And, a max deal for Amare would be a bigger contract than a max deal for the elites – Lebron, Wade, Bosh – because Amare has been in the league longer. I think Rod is doing his due dilligence here, but I doubt he gives up anything of value for Amare. Probably expiring contracts and draft choices. I don’t even think they would offer Yi.

guys play the LOTTERY on espn!! ive been waiting for this…lol

http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2010/mockdraft

I agree with Chris2. The Nets should low ball the Suns. Why give up assets and pay top money for a player you are not crazy about. Wait for the right deal.

If the Nets finish with the worst record, they will have the best chance at the #1 pick. It might be only a 25% chance but that is better then having a 22% or 15% or 5% chance.

Lets go Nets… Beat the Clippers tonight and all will be forgiven…

I think the Nets have to be prudent and see what they can get for their assets, particularly if reports are true that Prokhorov will be approved before the deadline. They have to be in every conversation.

I also think this deadline is different from any other in recent years. The combination of teams in desperate financial shape, a super free agency and big benefits in getting under the luxury tax is going to lead to big surprises, big values.

For example: Normally, if a team is under the luxury tax threshold, they get $2 or $3 million “refund” from the luxury tax pie in July. This year, teams that are under the threshold will get an estimated $4.5 million. So a team like Miami, which is currently $2.8 million over the threshold, stands to save $7.3 million if it can get under the threshold: the $2.8 million in tax savings and the $4.5 million tax “refund”. That’s why you can expect them to give a player or two away. Dorell Wright makes $2.9 million this season.

Also, several teams are in really bad shape financially. The Nets problems should get solved by Prokhorov, but the Grizzlies, Sixers, Bobcats and particularly the Pacers are all hurting. Watch their rosters for bargains.

@NetsDaily
LoL. I keep getting the Clippers.

I know nobody wants to hear this, but maybe we should be realistic and shoot for 2011 free agents.

Thinking that we are going to go from the outhouse to the penthouse in one year, may be to much of a reach.

Another painful year in 2010-2011 may be in order.

WOW…Nets got the first pick..

The best thing about playing the ESPN lotto, is that the Nets never get worse then the 4th pick.

The worst thing is that they rarely get the #1 pick.

I wonder if the “David Stern factor” has been programmed in. LOL.

Turner and Wall end up on the Nets quite a bit.

I really like this game.

03 Cavs
04 Magic
were the worst teams, and they won the lottery successful.

Now it’s 10 Nets turn to do that.

@mike

I did it twice and I got John wall both times for the Nets.

“The best thing about playing the ESPN lotto, is that the Nets never get worse then the 4th pick.”

If the Nets finish with the worst record, that’s the lowest pick they can receive.

The probability goes something like:
#1: 25%
#2: 22%
#3: 18%
#4: 35%

@ Mike

A worst record team won’t get a pick worse than 4th.

There is no way the Nets give up their pick for Amare based on that article Seth Pollack wrote.

I played the lottery app on ESPN. Nets got fourth pick, Wesley Johnson…I’ve decided I don’t like this thing, lol.

@jarkid + TwilliAM;

 Yeah, I know. I was only trying to point out that there is some benefit in finishing dead last.

Well, dont you just love waking up to this kind of news.

I think Proky would rather spend his “assets” on AK-47.

Somehow Amare does not fit the “bill”…

“Yeah, I know. I was only trying to point out that there is some benefit in finishing dead last.”

Sarcasm and the internet is a dangerous mix.

@Mike
I doubt they touch the money.

Worst case scenario: 1) you trade away assets and then the player signs somewhere else after mulling offers (and you can’t do anything while he has a cap hold); 2) you pick fourth in the draft.

Best case scenario: 1) you hang on to your space at the deadline, maybe even add a few bucks; 2) you pick first in the draft and it’s makes you more attractive to free agents.

I wanted to test the ESPN lottery game’s artificial intelligence to see how accurate it is to the percentages. Played it 50 times in a row. Nets got #1 pick seven times. So that’s 7/50. That’s 14%, not 25%. Law of averages says the more times you play it, the more the results should average out to 25%. My conclusion is that the thing is a little off. Knowing how they program random selections using computer science, though, you’d also know that know computer ever selects randomly. So it makes sense that the results would be skewed.

Just wanted to let everybody know not to take the results seriously ;)

Honestly I would love to see the Nets make a concerted effort to get Iguodala from the Sixers. He would be a perfect fit on this team going forward. Plus he has the body and versatility to play different spots on the floor. Turning 26 tomorrow is another positive.

I understand why people like the concept of Amare but I would never give big money to a guy who has had knee surgeries at the PF position. Then factor in his rebounding and defense, and I think its the type of deal that could bankrupt a franchise’s future. I would actually overpay Phoenix to get Robin Lopez though. Unfortunately I think he is becoming an untouchable piece in Phoenix’s future.

As for the draft – DeMarcus Cousins looked really nice last night. I have not been impressed by Derrick Favors all year. I would prefer Cousins over Favors if we had to go that route.

I totally agree with NI about AI……Nice piece for the future…I’d rather let TWILL go and keep CLEE……I’d also rather have a PF that rebounds and Defends more than he scores…….I like Amare but I’d wait till the summer…..Oh , And I guess Stefanski didn’t pan out like the sixers hoped either…..They never should have let Andre Miller get away…See what a real point guard can do for a team….Look at Atlanta since Mike Bibby came to town…We need Rubio….

As far as bargains off the Indiana roster, how big of a bargain are we talking about?

A team gunning for a championship would love to get Troy Murphy. However, I don’t see how he would help us in our current situation.

Danny Granger? Are we talking about THAT big of a bargain? How desperate could they be? Desperate enough that we could potentially offer a huge money saving deal of: CDR, T-Will Battie, Boone & Simmons for Granger, Dunleavy & Foster?

You want to get ridiculous in an attempt to get Granger? You take every damn bad contract they have with him and give them every last expiring anything we have left and a few young up-and-coming goodies.

I’m talking: TJ Ford, Jeff Foster, Mike Dunleavy and Danny Granger for T-Will, CDR, Battie, Boone, Hayes, Simmons, Trenton Hassell and Keyon Dooling.

What’s that a 12 player deal? Ridiculous, I know.

Pollack’s article is funny. He is suggesting we deal Simmons and his expiring deal, Yi, Lee or CDR or TWill and our 1st round pick. Classic.

I’ve always been a fan of TJ Ford…..Trade Harris and pick him up….What’s the Salary difference ??

I played the lottery 10 times… Nets got the 1st pick once. Pistons (5.4% got it 3 times)… I give up.

Get Amar’e, keep Yi. Lets build an all offensive team!

Re: My Ridiculous Trade…

Harris/Ford
Wall or Turner/Lee
Granger/Dunleavy
Yi/Humphries
Lopez/Mofy Mozgov/Foster

…That’s a pretty good team.

Ive heard that Amare will be traded to NJ, i mean they better theyre talent level is so pitiful right now I dont care if he ‘doesnt mesh well’ in the current non-fast break style of play- the fact is he is talented, a large body down low a freak athlete and better than anyone on the Nets right now. With Amare the nets have probably guaranteed to not set the all time worst record of futility ( 9-73) something that would be devastating in the off season. Plus everyone is all about John WAll- well what people dont realize is that theres a pretty good chance ( 75 % ) that you dont get John Wall- so then what do you do? You dont have Amare you dont have John Wall, you got cap space sure plus the worst record of all time. Amare is a must have plain and simple.

Warriors should be on NI’s list. If they have offered Monta Ellis for Ray Allen, that is crazy and Nets have the kind of expiring contracts and draft picks that can beat that. A guard who can shoot, wow, what a difference that would make.

Guys lets be real , who is going to want to sign in this mess!!! Amare can go with Dwade to Miami. At least he can be a half a season rental , we need him now!! To hopefully make somebody want to come here. $ is important, but to these sports guys it comes down to earning the first big check , sponsors, and TITLES

Only the Nets will say no

Nets suck!!!!!!

since the wolves are shopping al jefferson, i’d prefer jefferson over amare, bosh or boozer. al is the best in the low block than any of the 3 i mentioned. amare/bosh is better at mid-range and boozer more mobile…
jefferson would come in cheaper also…and younger than amare/boozer.

Bummer. Thought Amare was a Net for sure.

Simmons, Yi, CDR Dooling and Dallas pick for Stoudemire and Amundson?
Make it work Thorn!!

al jefferson is a more “dump it inside and score”-type than brook. he will bail the team out if the offense is stalling. brook looks robotic down there and i guess would be more effective with the pick-and-roll and he can also hit the long shot just inside the 3-pt line.

Definitely would prefer Al Jefferson if we could get him over all the other options…

Of course the talks are “not serious”. This franchise is an absolute joke.

The team is cruising towards 3-79. You HAVE to do something to at least get the attention of one other free agent worth a damn. For them to sit on their hands is foolish, if they don’t make a move this will be a disastrous summer, mark my words.

NO one is going to come here unless some changes are made.

Keep thinking Brooklyn will be sell outs with the Nets conducting business like this. No one is going to line up and buy overpriced tickets to see this joke

Andre Iguodola.

talk about adding insult to injury. everything is going wrong for us this year..this would be the only positive thing to come out of it, well, one of two (the other being Wall, but no guarantee). just get rid of our expiring contracts and yi for god’s sake! at this point what else do they have to lose?

Phoenix Suns want Yi + 1 or 2 draft picks for Amare…..Insider reports…But Nets management starting to like Yi…that sux..I want Yi to be a Suns…please trade yi out of NJ….

I do not want Amare’ on this team,
his knees are gonna be done in 2 years.
this is like signing Carter an extension.

I rather keep YI and LOPEZ.
we just need a REAL POINT GUARD (PG)
if theres a way we can get C.Paul that would be nice.
I think we’re gonna get WALL so we don’t have any problem
with that.

This team needs a TRUE PG and a GOOD SF

PG: WALL or C.PAUL
G: TWILL (since he’s not big enough to guard Lebron)
SF: R.GAY (if theres a way we can get HIM)
PF: YI (i won’t give up with this guy, this guy got
       skills he just doesnt know how to use it YET. haha)
C: LOPEZ

sorry guys but i stop dreaming about lebron james coming to this team.. so if we can get rudy gay and draft wall thats gonna be our chance to be a contender again.

I WANT A DEFENSIVE TEAM! Defense, along with scoring wins championships! Defense is fun to watch, that is what we had during the Finals runs. Scrappy, all out hustle wins you ganes.