If Stoudemire comes and the Nets win the lottery, be sure that the Nets will get Lebron, ending with this starting line-up.

Wall
Harris
Lebron
Stoudemire
Lopez

Dooling
Lee
Yi
CDR
and other signed or traded players

I know that’s a lot of ‘ifs’ but if that’s not a winning team…!

It looks like phoenix wants a lot for amare.
I say Lee Yi BS and a 2nd round pick.
The Nets can’t give up a 1st rd for amare and young talent.
That’s just too much.
Hopefully Amare won’t opt, giving the Nets flexibility in 2011 and still attract Lebron or Melo in 2011

I don’t think the Nets should give anything. Why not wait till the FA market begin. A trade now only hurts the chances for Wall and why in the right mind would you take throw away your chances at top tier FA.

Don’t Fold and Play your cards.

This would only improve the chances to land a top FA, and will not affect the lottery much considering how far behind/ahead we already are.

It’s the smart thing to talk to everyone about everything, particularly when you’re 3-40.

Just like I am preparing myself for Evan Turner instead of John Wall.

I’d give up pretty much anything on our team except for our own first round pick and brook lopez to get amare to be honest.

Everyone else on our squad is a role player and we’ll be lucky to get someone of Amare’s caliber with the Dallas pick which will prob up being 25-26.

With any luck, we get Wall and trade Harris and a pick for another first rounder, say the 12-16 range and pick up another quality player.

Also i’d have no problem with Turner, just putting that out there, he’s a stud.

Sheesh, Yi of little faith. What happened to preparing yourself for Yi becoming the next Dirk.

I don’t understand why some of you don’t want this trade to happen.. If we trade for him, we get his BIRD RIGHTS, so not only can we have a great chance of keeping him, we also can sign a Wade or LeBron. The whole point of this trade would be to attract one of those two. And there is no way LeBron would rather play with Z and and a 38 year old Shaq rather than Brook and Amare.

If we make this trade, I don’t think we would have the cap space to go after a Wade or Lebron. Amare would represent an enormous cap hold.

earl clark and stoudemire come to the nets

yi
lee
simmons
boone

go to phx. trade works out. we dont lose much of anything except flexibility.

lineup immediately changes to

harris
cdr
twill or hayes or clark
stoudemire
lopez

i see scoring but no defense at all, not even a tiny bit of defense. we would have to be an uptempo team.

i dont know if this brings more wins but it would be fun to watch.

The point of the story is the Nets would get Amare only because they wouldn’t be able to sign LeBron.

I hope the politics behind this would be to get the Knicks interested in selling DLee instead of getting nothing for him this off season. Let the Knicks get Amare/Bosh and we’ll give Yi + Boone + draft pick for DLee. Lee would be cheaper and leave cap space, especially considering Yi’s 4 million added on.

Another consideration no one has thought about is that if the Nets got Amare or DLee tomorrow, they wouldn’t have the worst record this year. Management must know this, so that would have to put off a deal for a few weeks and pray for more losses (LOL)!

BTW Wesley Johnson looked like an upgrade on TWill yesterday and he obviously is a focused winner for #4 Syracuse.

Wouldn’t mind having Cole Aldrich either as he had a monster game (he should go in top 6-10 in draft). BLopez could play some PF with Aldrich in lineup. Cole appears to be a lock-down physical center, better than Lopez in those aspects.

What about his health though? If i am Thorn i dont do this move. I dont think he is worth the risk and he plays no defense. I would rather target David Lee and not give up anything.

I think it’s fair to assume Proky will go over the cap space to win. If we land Amare we will have the best front court in the East, a rich owner, an eventual new arena and certainly the possibility to land Lebron.

David Lee plays defense? Lee is going to demand around $10 milliion a year and he is superfluous to Lopez.

It’s not easy for a full time center to learn how to play PF. Don’t let NBA Live fool you into thinking that is easy.

After a few days of thinking about this, I am totally against this trade.

Nothing says he stays here. Nothing says we cant sign him after this year without trading pieces. Nothing says Lebron comes here because Amare is here. Too many ifs for me. I say we wait until we find out if we get the #1 pick. Once we know that outcome, we can start thinking about trading everyone not named Lopez.

I don’t think people get it: if Amar’e wants to be a Net, you can have him in the offseason without losing ANY valuable pieces. And if he doesn’t want to be a Net, then what’s the point trading for him? He’ll walk in the offseason and we’ll be screwed.

I’d rather hold onto our assets. What’s the rush? The season is lost.

Btw, heck no to David Lee.

How about making this interesting and doing a monster 3 team trade with Knicks getting Amare, Nets getting DLee and Yi + expirings going to whichever team would take him??
Knicks are desperate for draft picks.

BTW forget about DWADE – he’s not moving from the comfort of Miami and Bosh isn’t coming to Nets.

Naturally if Nets signed Amare and Wall/Turner then LeBron would be interested in coming (especially if he won a championship – 45% likelyhood now).

However, unless LeBron were to take a major salary cut, that wouldn’t be possible, as I understand it. Could he take a cut only for his 1st year?

LeBron might even be interested if Nets got the younger (not injury risk) DLee. With the added 4 million space for Yi and 3+ million if Dooling was bought out, then might be enough left to cover LeBron.

Following up on Mohammad’s post:

Amar’e makes $17.7 million next season but has a player option. Much like Vince Carter three years ago, Amar’e wants a long term contract. And much like the Nets three years ago, the Nets will ask for a reduction in the first year of the contract in return for the long term deal. VC got a little more than $13 million in the first year of his $65 million deal, saving the Nets $3.4 million. I’m sure that if this is serious—and I doubt it is right now—the Nets plan is to offer Amar’e an extension starting in that same vicinity.

The Nets right now have $25 million in cap space for next season. IF they traded two of the three young guys (Yi, TWill and CLee), they would PICK UP cap space. The Nets are COMMITTED to pay those three guys $9 million next season. So say the Nets sent Yi and TWill to the Suns along with the Mavs pick. That would increase the Nets cap space by $7 million to more than $32 million AND have the Bird Rights to Amar’e. Yi is owed $4 million, TWill is owed $2.3 million and the Mavs pick would be paid nearly $1 million. Assume you do a long term deal and give Amar’e $14 million next season. You would still have $18 million in cap space, about the same as the Heat.

If they trade any of those young wings, it should Courtney Lee. I’d much rather send him packing than TWill, whose potential is much higher and could be the more complete player. Lee is a defensive specialist, that’s it, what you see is what you have.

Don’t sleep on that Mavs pick either. A couple of years ago, you could have gotten someone like Batum or Greene with a similar pick. Last year guys like Blair or Budinger could have been had with a similar pick.

Yi+TWill+Mavs pick is way too much for a guy who’ll be a FA next summer, IMO. Please don’t do it. If they traded for Amar’e, I’d give them CLee and Yi, but that’s it, but I’d rather keep our assets and try to sign him outright next summer.

Anyone watching DLee lately, knows he is becoming an effective outside shooter. I saw him making threes.

Lee could also be used to back up Lopez during his 13 minutes of rest and play Humphries at PF.

When you talk Defense, Amare/Lee may not expend a lot of energy, but you would have to redefine the term when comparing to Yi’s lack of Defense. At least they are aggressive under both baskets and their physical presence helps defend.

David Lee is an atrocious defender, one of the absolute worst post defender in the game. Don’t spend the big bucks on another big man who couldn’t guard my gramma, please!

Yi, TWill, and Simmons can work, right?

@Net Income
Thanks for the reality check. Plus, picking up Amar’e would also make us much more attractive to other free agents. If his health seems OK (it does to me) I hope the Nets can pull off exactly what you describe.

I think a lot of you guys need to realize that there is ZERO chance the Nets make a trade for Amare without some sort of guarantee he’ll sign an extension. The front office isn’t that dumb.

I agree with Andres, the Nets should try and hold onto TWill.

This is the smarter move. You make moves when they become available. Having a Lopez/Stoudemire duo would also be appealing to FA’s.

Anyone that was banking on LBJ or Wade coming to a team that has already lost 40 games before the all star break needs to have their heads examined.

Get Amare, and then hope that the lottery balls bounce our way.

If we acquire Amare, we should also get rid of Kiki. No need to leave a bad taste in another player’s mouth by keeping that idiot on board for the rest of the year.

Amar’e come here sweet heart :D :D :D

we’ll love to have a ‘’true all-star’’, sorry harris, ur zZz

send them simmons, twill and jayes!!!

dallas pick if they argue…

come amar’e come, Nets suck!!! :D :D :D

I wouldn’t give up TWill just yet and especially for his meager cap space. He is finally being given PT at this time (this may be what Thorn is up to anyway) We don’t know who we will get in draft and no guarantees of re-signing Amare or that LeBron would be our SF anyway. TWill may turn out to be an adequate SF for next year unless Nets would be force to take Wesley Johnson.

Phoenix may not have better offers anyway. Nets are fortunate to have expirings and draft picks.

I still feel better going the DLee route if that becomes available.

if we can do this without giving harris, lopez, or our first rounder this year i say go for it. we put ourselves in a very bad spot for signing free agents with our record this year. if we can land an all star this year (who showed interest in our team already) i say go for it.

Anybody think Amare will be the next Elton Brand? ….it is quite possible given his history. Is it worth a try ….maybe, maybe not. In the end the Nets are a better team for sure if he stays healthy which is a big question mark. And of course you get very defense there also.
He is a very expensive question mark.

Obviously we’d all love to wait and see what we have when the lottery comes but the fact of the matter is we dont really have a choice.

The only free agents that will agree to come here will be at best the 2nd tier guys and the only way you’ll get them is by overpaying them to hell and back and this year’s Pistons team proves that a plan of that structure just doesnt work.

If you get a chance to get Amare you do it, he’s a stud who we can get for fairly cheap, a guy that will fit extremley well in our team and will help us attract free agents.

Ive said it once and Ill say it again with a bit of luck this team can be special and getting Amare will just increase or odds of getting lucky.

I think another problem is Amare doesn’t work very well with a center (shaq) and Lopez hasn’t work out well with Yi.
When Amare drives, he doesn’t like a center park in the middle. This to me is not going to work out.

Reality check.. …. THE NETS HAVE WON 3 OUT OF 40 GAMES. They may be the worst team ever. How anyone can argue against upgrading this team in any way is beyond me. If they give up Yi then they will have a bit more cap flexibility to sign a second max player. And as far as I am concerned the Suns can have CDR or T-Witt (I mean T-Will).I think that it is the suns that do not do this deal.

BOTTOM LINE; IF A 3-40 TEAM CAN GET 1 OF THE TOP POWER FORWARDS IN THE GAME FOR BS, YI, AND CDR OR T-WITT NONE OF YOU SHOULD ARGUE.

Don’t forget that NI’s numbers assume buying out Dooling, who is a Nets favorite and the only real PG at this time. He is a team leader and is only going to get better after he fully recovers from his surgery.

If Nets got Wall, and Dooling’s buyout meant another quality FA, then fine, but there are too many uncertainties to count out Dooling at this time. That is why some analysts assume that the Nets only have about $21 million in cap space now.

I would think though that there would be some interest in Hayes, who might be the most desirable expiring the Nets have. Unfortunately, with all the expirings, there is no motivation for players like Hayes to play team ball as they need to market themselves for free agency. That is part of the Nets problem in winning 7 more games.

David Lee is healthier, younger, plays just as hard if not more than Amare, and DLee is cheaper. From a cost/benefit analysis, DLee is far better deal than DLee. By the time we finally play in Brooklyn, Amare would be 30… 2 years into Brooklyn, Amare would be an aging former star with bloated contract we’d give up for expirings and draft pick.. remember RJ, JKidd, VC… you guys have awful short memory.

Bobby Simmons, Yi, Courtney Lee and our Dallas pick.

..Could they get anything better from anyone else?

Chicago; Hinrich, Gibson and Salmons?
-Great deal, but could they be taking on too much money for the next couple of years?

Detroit; Villanueva and Prince?
-Meh. Villanueva has the offensive good to keep up with Nash. Would they be interested in Prince? That would be interesting.

Miami; Beasley and Garbage?
-Beasley is the only one I’d be interested in on that team. It would be unwise for Miami to give him up.

To compete with that Chicago offer I think we could counter with Lee, Yi, Battie, T-Will and our 2nd round pick. Is there such thing as giving up too much from a team with 3 wins halfway through the season? Taylor Griffin and Jarron Collins would be glad to come along for the ride and fight NBA History in our attempt to reach double digit wins.

I like the idea of Amare, but that knee worries me…

@ Net Income

Assuming Prokhorov will spend and the Nets have Amare’s Bird Rights wouldn’t it be possible to go into the offseason sign 2 FA’s with the 32 mil you mentioned, then sign Amare since his salary resigning can exceed the cap?

agree with the Hammer. How could anyone not want this trade to happen at this point, sure it’s a risk. The Nets will get 1/2 a season to evaluate Amare’s health, it’ll be a huge lure for other free agents, and the Nets will be able to compete with Boston, Cleveland and Orlando next season (assuming we dump some other players and get Wall of course).

Hey NetIncome, could you please address Amar’e’s rebounding and defense? Some people think he’s a good rebounder and defender while others think he isn’t.

I think this is a very smart move because there is no way that Lebron or Wade are coming here. Wade doesn’t leave Miami, and I suspect Lebron if he goes anywhere, would love to live in Miami!

If we can get rid of Yi, maybe CDR, and some lesser draft picks for Amare, I would sign off on that in a heartbeat. I don’t want to be the worst team ever.

At the same time, from the Suns side of things, letting Amare go would be the worst choice in the history of the NBA. They are in contention at this very moment, and they would essentially be saying goodbye to Amare, AND Nash. Nash would be so pissed off that he might even demand out by the deadline! Thus imploding the Suns season in one stupid move.

Pretty much everyone here just assumes we are getting Wall. Well as Nets fans, you should know nothing every works in our favor. Those who are thinking about Turner are smart because, in my opinion, it’s better to not get your hopes up. Sorry folks, but LeBron will stay in Cleveland. Take some notes Rod (if your still there):

Get Amar’e, DO NOT DRAFT ANYONE WITH THE LAST NAME WILLIAMS, Get rid of Yi, Get AK-47 (Proky), invest in a smart defender at SG/SF, sign a decent FA this summer, don’t put all your eggs in one basket, Fire Kiki (total bum), give Lopez more shots this year, get rid of that moron host and promote Disco Stu to be the host during the game (true fans know what I’m talking about).

Since no matter what we are sucks in defense; lets get Amare, keep Yi, Twill and C Lee, the young players that can run. Then send Bobby, Boone, Tony Battie and maybe even Jarvis. Get some wings that can shoot 3s and get an all offensive coach like Don Nelson or Mike D’Antoni. We will be like the Suns few years ago that most of the time score a basket using less than 10 seconds of the 24 seconds shot clock.

Go Nets!

@ Dillon

This scenario is not possible, because either one of two things will happen: a.) the Nets extend Amare’s contract, in which case his 17 million will be on the books for next year or b.) the Nets allow him to be a FA and maintain his “Bird” rights. This allows us to re-sign him when we are over the salary cap, but the Nets will still have a “cap hold” for Amare of 15-17 million which will eat up cap space for next year.

Either way you slice it, Amare will be on our books for ~15-17 million next year.

All this talk of cap space is overlooking how the cap actually works during free agency. If the Nets trade for Amare, until he signs a contract, there will be a cap hold for a max contract on the Nets cap.

everyone seems to want to get rid of CLee so quickly. I would much rather part with CDR. Yes, he’s a hard worker. But I don’t see him as a good complimentary player. I believe hes not a good off the ball player. He needs the ball to contribute. With a team that will supposedly have AStoudamire, BLopez, DHarris, hopefully JWall…

Only a matter of time, he will be grumbling because he wont be getting his looks and/or time. Only solution would be to have him as a scorer of the bench.
 
I think CLee fits more with a team that has plenty of scorers ala his days on Orlando. Courtney is a slouch as well, but if he’s got good player around him He’d be ok taking 5-8 shots a game and playing off those guys. He would still contribute with an occasional 3 and a few stls.

TWill is just scrtaching the surface and has much more upside than the both of them. So you can part with him.

About Amare’s D:

He is reasonable one-on-one defender, but his team D stinks…

“Hey NetIncome, could you please address Amar’e’s rebounding and defense? Some people think he’s a good rebounder and defender while others think he isn’t.”

@sdsc -

I’m not Net Income, but I will address your question too. Amare is not a good rebounder. He has never averaged double digits in rebounds, and in fact has averaged more than 9.1 rebounds per game only once. On a per minute basis, Yi was a better rebounder than Amare last year. To use more advanced stats – John Hollinger’s “rebound rate” (which measures the percentage of all available rebounds the player gets) – of the 68 PFs in the league this year measured by Hollinger (all those averaging over 6 minutes per game), Amare ranks 35 in rebound rate. No better than average.

With Brook Lopez being a mediocre rebounder (at best – he is 32 out of 58 centers in Hollinger’s rebound rate stats), that would be a huge problem for the Nets.

As for defense, as far as I can tell, Amare doesn’t really try.

Frankly, out of the second tier (after Bosh) PFs out there, I would probably go for Boozer ahead of Lee or Amare. Yes, he’s a year older than Amare and two years older than Lee, but I think he’s likely to be a better value than either.

We need to do this.

Yi
C.Lee or T.Williams
Battie (exp)
Hayes (exp)
2010 DAL #1
Future #2
$3m Cash
4.5 Traded Player Exception

for

Amare
T.Griffin
Amundson

~$15m in savings
a. lowered payroll
b. tax savings
c. dispersed tax money
d. cash from NJ.

If Pheonix is willing to move Amare it’s because they don’t want to pay him a max contract. NJ could do that. He’s already stated our potential, stated his preference for a big market and he would be able to be our #1 option for the time being.

Odds are we don’t get Wall.
I think this team needs a quality wing more than a PF like Favors, since we would now have Amare, Lopez and Humphries. If we can get Turner or W.Johnson, our wings improve trmendously.

Harris / #2
CDR / C.Lee
Turner or W.Johnson
Amare / Humprhies
Lopez

+ Just about enough cap space for another max FA

Get ’er done!

Boozer’s D is worse than Amare’s.

Meanwhile, I think the team as a whole would do much better on the glass with more physical bodies down low trying to box out and not on the peremiter.

I would guarantee we would be a better rebounding and defensive team with Amare and not Yi.

When is the new owner gonna be approved?
Getting a real coach should be #1 on the agenda.
The coaching situation has to be resolved.
The current players need kiki gone. They have tuned him out.
Even if the Nets had Amare right now could KiKi get the Nets 10 wins?

Bosh isn’t going anywhere, he said not the Nets specifically. Boozer said basically the same thing,plus he JUST said how he wants to remain in Utah and all is water under the bridge. So given all that up to date player news, Amare would then be the best PF left out there. Can he rebound? Well, 8 a game for a career isnt that bad, it can let Brook improve. Can he play D? Well has he ever been asked to play D? no. So we dont even know. Either way he is a stud of a scorer, and that is the Nets biggest flaw right now. He has a stellar FG%, and if you take into consideration what the other 2 PF’s out there are saying, then he would essentially just be replacing yi! Sign me up!

I think the nets need to make this deal on two accounts

1. They need Amare to not break the all time mark for futility ( 9-73) because lets face it, the Nets are somehow playing worse basketball and theyre schedule is not easing up anytime sooon.

2. I dont think that Lebron or Wade ends up in Jersey even with Amare- but thats okay, build around a core of Amare, Lopez, Harris and potentially Wall and maybe even settle for a Joe Johnson. So your starting 5 would look like (depending on who you give up for Amare of course)

Harris
Wall
Joe Johnson
Lopez
Amare

and pickup some nice shooters to come off the bench in the summer. Perhaps with a roster like this you have the potential to make a jump from not just a good team but a title contending team in the offseason of 2011 before they go off to Brooklyn

“Boozer said basically the same thing,plus he JUST said how he wants to remain in Utah and all is water under the bridge.”

@Tim -

Boozer will go to whichever team pays him the most. He is in it for the money. And, BTW, Utah will NOT be paying him – they don’t have the money and already have a replacement in Milsap – so he will not be going back to Utah.

@cpawfan
And if the Nets and Amar’e agree to an extension on July 7, that cap hold goes away…and I have to assume that a quick resolution to the issue of an extension is going to be discussed long before then—in spite of what the rules say.

The team with the cap hold issue is the New York Knickerbockers.

They’re all in it for the money. Watching the Suns-Jazz game last night, I would take AK-47 or Boozer over Amar’e who seemed out of it. His defense wasn’t just bad, it was jaw-droppingly atrocious. Unfortunately, Boozer isn’t interested in the Nets and although AK-47 is, his contract makes it unlikely anyone will have interest in him before 2011. He can be such a complete player: 25 points, 6 boards, 2 assists (and a couple more he should have had), three blocks and a neat steal…not to mention a BBIQ just off the charts. He’s inconsistent, but that offense is not conducive to him showing his full potential.

trade off harris, dooling, battie 4 stat dragic n clark.

Forget Amare, with his history of knee surgurys, he is not coming.

get rid off harris to get stat and that gives the nets more money.
then get wall.
sign lee n gay.
and a few more cheap fa. mayb nate, camby or allen.
wall
???
gay
lee
brook.

If the Warriors are willing to part with Randolph and Ellis why aren’t the Nets all over that?
Randolph has Chris Bosh ability, and Ellis, despite being a ball hog, does something the Nets don’t: Score.
Him and a healthy Devo in the backcourt would be tough to defend.

y’all are dreaming

“Him and a healthy Devo in the backcourt would be tough to defend.”

That will no defense as well from our backcourt. Ellis is too small to guard 2s and DH is yet to show his defense in NJ.

Wow, I can’t believe that fans of a 3 – 39 team are being picky about a possible trade! Amare would be a major upgrade in so many ways. Is he perfect? No, but he sure beats what we have going. He gives us a true inside presence, an athlete, a physical presence, and star power, something we do not have. Assuming you keep Lopez and Harris, you now have 3 solid players to build around. And Hump behind Amare is a nice rotation.

@ Nets Income
Perfect observance on Amare.
This team needs players that want to be here and change the culture, not players looking for a payday!
Amare is a scorer that needs the ball. Remember how he complained when shaq came to phoenix?!
AK47 would rebound, block shots, play D and pass the ball.
AK may be the best hustle player vs boozer Bosh and Amare.
Those are the skills the Nets need.
Offense can be coached. Not desire

From Nets perspective this is “duh”, but I don’t think they are competitive. Chicago can offer Tyrus Thomas, Luol Deng and expiring contracts. We don’t have anyone we are willing to trade as good as those guys.

Better for Nets, GSW is shopping Monta Ellis for expirings. Right now looks like may they move him for Ray Allen. Wow. Now there we can be competitive. Seems like there could be a touches issue in Bos if that goes thru.

Do it. Amares only going to allow a trade if its to a team thatd hed actually re-sign with. I know the odds of it hhappening are slim but think about how much of a recruiting tool this would be to Lebron or Wade. Say we hit the lottery, draft John Wall. Our lineup then would be something like this:

PG: John Wall
SG: Harris (or trade harris for a pick or quality sg)
SF: Lebron
PF: Amare
C: Lopez

This team would have more talent then his Cavs without him, or any team he could sign with (and still get his max deal).
Even if we dont win the lottery are team would still look something like this:

PG: Harris
SG: Evan Turner or Xavier Henry
SF: LeBron
PF: Amare
C: Lopez

This is a move that has to be made imho. Give them Yi(prospect and marketing), Tony Battie(expiring), T-Will (teams up with his old buddy Earl Clark), the Dallas First round pick, and a 2nd rounder.

Hahaha just tried ESPN’s lottery machine 10 times. Gave the nets the first pick 2 times. 20%, about right. Goes to show you how easily we can lose the draft. The difference between the chances for the number one pick between the worst teams are not that large. Minnesota (2nd worst record) got it the most times I think

I think the Nets have a good shot to land Stoudemire. This seems like it could actually happen, and wouldn’t it be great to get some good news about this team for once?

At Muwu – I just did the same thing. Damn!!!!! The worse thing is I think the Wiz won 4 out of 10.

My thoughts, if Proky takes over and wants to make a big splash immediately then trade for Amare. Amare and Lopez would be the best 4/5 combo in the league. Then we have Harris who is an amazing player. People don’t seem to realize…Harris isn’t a number 1 option and they’re asking him to be…but when he’s the 2 or 3 option he’s at his best. When defenses can’t plan their scheme around stopping him because they’re worried about Amare and then Lopez as he continues to develop you’ll see the real Harris. Add to Harris, Lopez and Amare a top 4 pick (if they have the worst record they can’t do worse than 4), and they’ll still have cap space to sign another free agent or do a sign-and-trade for one.

pg- Harris
sg- Wall or Turner or Wesley Johnson
sf- LeBron or Gay(via sign-and-trade) or Butler or Iguodala
pf- Amare
c- Lopez

What’s wrong with that? And it’s actually realistic. We have soooo many draft picks (we can trade the Dalls pick, the pick we got from the Warriors, our 1st rounder next yr or in 2012) plus young players (Lee, CDR, T-Will, Yi) to use in the trades for Amare and the sign-and-trade for Gay or LeBron or Butler or Iguodala who are all available. Even if we don’t have exactly enough to sign LBJ after trading for Amare…a sign-and0trade still works as I assure you the Cavs would rather have a couple 1st rounder from us (like we got from Denver in the Mart sign-and-trade) than watch LeBron go to a different team that can sign him outright and they get nothing.

Thoughts?

I’m all for amare coming here..that’s a good start. Now give me manu ginobli and joe johnson for whatever money we have to spend and trade harris and draft wall if we get lucky and have
WALL
JOHNSON
MANU
AMARE
LOPEZ
 Wow how can u beat this team? Trade yi and harris and get ur bench situated. Done!!

EVERYONE, look at the front page of RealGM.com right now. It’s very Nets/Amare relevant.

I am iffy about the Amare trade…

A part of me wants to do it now, and another part don’t want to. If we do the trade now without giving up too much or our core, then it might help attracts better FA’s during this summer. We could really turn this team around in one go. The problem I have is what Amare is going to be asking for, contract wise. He is probably expecting a max deal or somewhere very close to it…and a long term contract, so that mean’s probably like a 5 or 6 year deal.

Amare will turn 28 this year, so he will be around 33 or 34 by the end of his contract. That’s a pretty long time, and I don’t know how well he will hold up when he’s at that age. I don’t want us to have to go through the mistake of signing a bad contract again, kinda like Vince’s or RJ’s contract.

If we do make this trade and be able to get one of the top 2 picks, then I think we can really become a contender next year.

if we get the #1 or #2pick, make the trade without giving away our core we could have a starting lineup that looks like this:
Devin
Wall or Turner
LBJ – maybe this will be enough to attract Lebron, but I doubt it
Amare
Brook

I know Amare is not the perfect player, but if we wait til this summer to make a deal, there might be no fa’s that will want to come to our team especially with the way we’re playing now.

I’d much rather have Amar’e to help attract FA’s this offseason rather than just a bunch of young players. Amar’e is a huge upgrade over Yi as well. I think he’s just the type of big man we need to run the floor and create a formidable offense. Now that Thorn’s hands are no longer tied, I’m confident he can get this trade done and lead this team back to success.

this is brillant. i’d say go for it. This is it…all or nothing lol. If we get amare, then we instantly look attractive for any free agent (lebron)

If Golden State’s interested in Amar’e, they got alot more ‘young talent’ to offer then us…

No one has answered the question as to why Nets leaked their Amare interest and wanted to post his consideration of Nets.

I still think that Thorn is up to something else, such as encouraging other teams like the Knicks to “play ball”.

Afterall it is tempting for Knicks to want to exploit Yi’s China connection too and they could lose DLee and get nothing back.
Nets have draft picks. Knicks need draft picks but probably aren’t talking Turkey with Nets yet.

I bet the house that nothing is going to happen. Nets are going to stay how they are and continue to break losing records.

I know I’m off topic here but seriously the Nets are in great position this year and I find no way we repeat this type of season next year. The chances of us getting the 1st and second pick are HIGH. Drafting either Wall or Turner is a win win situation for us. Turner and Harris together would be like Chad Ford said the second coming of Brandon Roy the guy has a wingspan of 7"0 just like Kevin Durant he’s tall and lengthy and we already know about John Wall and what he could bring to us. So either way we can’t lose. Turner is the best player in NCAA right now. Wall has the potential to be great “we can’t lose” with either guy.

That’s right, stick with Yi.
Yi has been a championship winner at every stage of this career. LeBron, Wade, Wall, etc they are all dying to play alongside an international winner like Yi.

lol @ liking Yi……..hes scared of contact

Yi, Lee, Simmons and Dallas pick for Amar’e. Just do it!

Looking at the possible deals in each viable teams standpoint, the Nets are the best option…for both teams.

But as I said before, I would rather part with CDR rather than CLee, TWilliams.

just trade for him already and stop being a baby nets! they always chicken out of everything…we’re rebuilding right? we’re trying to get great players on the team right? well then stop hesitating and make a trade.

…IF one of those guys had to go.

I have serious doubt that the Russian will approve of sticking with Yi over a proven star player.

bulls might get amare

This is becoming tragically funny. Thorn values Yi over Amare.

The question is are Nets willing to trade Yi and as Ford says the Nets "are starting to like Yi" and are the Suns are willing to take him. I bet it’s a no on both ends. To get Amare we have to be able to dump salary to keep the 18 million cap space and sign him to a reduced rate to a team who’s 3-40. I’m undecided about getting Amare but if we keep the cap space, I’d do it.

Yeah, if you give me 15 and 5 vs 20 and 10, I’ll take 15 and 5 every day.

@ Whoop dee damn doo

agree on trading cdr. I know Kiki did give some of cdr’s shots to Yi and Brook, but watching the game I feel cdr is rebelling by refusing to shoot. It’s near impossible for a starter to take only 1 shot in a game when he played substantial minutes AND had his mind right, right…? I don’t know, maybe I am wrong but I say what I feel.

@JohnY

i agree with you 100%.

its crazy how the nets are thinking about keeping Yi over amare. what, all because he had a “few good games” in a row they love him? what about all the other games he sucked in…amare puts in good numbers everytime he plays and is a much better player.

get amare!

If Amare gives the Nets any sort of indication that he would sign an extension I do this in a heartbeat. I’ve always like Amare and I think he would do very well with Brook. Amare is leaps and bounds better than Yi so for the people who think the Nets should hold onto Yi..you’re crazy. Getting Amare and drafting Wall(I no 25%) could be a serious lure for LeBron.

So please update me the only thing standing in our way of getting Amar’e is Yi? Y’all joking right?

Again, people dont get it: its not a matter of preferring to stick with Yi over getting Amar’e. Stat will be a FA next summer, you could sign him outright this summer and kee your assets.

YOU
COULD
SIGN
HIM
OUTRIGHT
THIS
SUMMER

You don’t get it. Why would the Sun let Amare walk this summer for nothing? Suns could trade him now and get a combo of expirings, young talent, picks.

@Whoop dee damn doo
Lee has stunk the gym up all year long. He couldn’t hit an open shot to save his life. He’s a good defender, but that’s it, he brings little else to the table. He’s a dime a dozen player. CDR is the much better player.

Still Id like to keep CLee, but if one of those young wings has to be shipped out, it should be Lee, there’s no question in my mind

Andres if you sign him now you don’t compete for his services.

I think LeBron would much rather sign with a 21-61 team than a 3-79 team.

21 wins would require us to go a game or two over .500 – perhaps an 18 win team is more realistic.

Andres if the Nets don’t make a move they will be dead in the water this summer. If the Nets were to trade for him then there will already be the groundwork in place to sign him to an extension, plus adding him could make this team a bit better as it is and give us a few wins to pad this god awful record.

Also, him being here beforehand can lure another player in free agency, especially if the lotto balls bounce our way.

If the Nets play this mess out as is, you can forget about anyone looking our way.

Seriously….this is starting to remind me of a domestic violence situation. No matter how bad the abuser (Yi) treats us, we (Nets front office) can’t give up our relationship with him. It’s like we’re addicted to the word “upside”. How about we look at the “downside” for a change which is what we will be faced with for years to come if we don’t do something about it.

Get Amare, draft Wall, lure Lebron…see you in the ECF’s in 2011!

Amare is damaged goods, no thanks! He’s had too many physical problems and has too much mileage on his legs. We can do better. I’d rather have Boozer or Bosh or Johnson. As far as the draft, if we don’t get the number 1 pick, I’d trade up from the 2, 3 or 4 spot to get to WALL. He is much better than anyone else in the draft, at least at this point. But a max contract for Amare? NO NO NO NO NO.

@Paul Erstein

You obviously don’t watch college basketball if you think that Wall is “much” better then other players in the draft.

I cannot fathom why the Nets are considering trading for Amare, when they could simply attempt to get him this summer (without giving up any other player).

Amare might be the most realistic elite player that the Nets can land in FA. I just do not see why Wade or Lebron would pick the Nets, and Bosh clearly is frustrated with mediocrity and losing over the past several years so I just do not see him signing with a team that is rebuilding. After Amare, as has been discussed on here for awhile, Gay would be the next best player that the Nets have a realistic shot at.

Yi is wonderful. Hope he has some great games and the value of this athletic 22 year International Champion goes way up next few weeks! There could be viewers from other teams here since NetsDaily is so popular with SB Nation merger.

The same said for Amare leaving holds for DLee, yet no word yet of Knicks shopping DLee. Bosh is likely to stay as is DWade so that is understandable. Meanwhile Knicks haven’t yet conceded lowering their expectations for a Max player.

The chances of Nets getting #1/#2 pick is still less than 50%. Therefore Thorn needs to hold some pieces (eg. keep CDR and CLee until AFTER Lottery picks are drawn) in case they are needed for a draft night trade to move up or buy/swap a pick.

If Thorn really wanted Amare then we wouldn’t know about it via the Nets. There is more going on here.
I’ll bet Tom Barrise is earning his pay as Rod’s assistant.

I agree something has to get done before deadline; just not convinced it has to require giving up too much for Amare.

As I said before, how about a 3-way with Knicks, Nets and Suns. Let the Knicks get Amare and I’ll settle for DLee. Everyone can be happy and then Amare could tear up his knee after he joins the Knicks (LOL).

I’m sure all the Nets players wouldn’t mind being traded away. When you’re at the bottom, it’s all up from there.

Paul,

What you fail to understand is that if you want those other players, you are going to have to become a fan of the other team that they will play on since they have said there is no way they are coming to Jersey. Be happy Amare is open to the idea and let’s get the party started. Beggers can’t be choosers!

Andres,

What you don’t get is that by trading for Amare now we accomplish a few things:
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1. We give our current fans hope that we might win another game this season….

2. We get Amare’s bird rights, thus we can offer him more than other teams in the FA period. This gives us a better shot at winning the Amare sweepstakes.

Ok gotcha. Thanks A.S.

@Ed Grube,

You said “No matter how bad the abuser (Yi) treats us, we (Nets front office) can’t give up our relationship with him.”

So how exactly did the “Abuser Yi” treat the Nets?

Comstantly a let down. All you ever hear is excuses…he’s young, he’s been hurt, he’s learning the language better….the rest of the NBA isn’t going to come to a standstill and wait for Yi to “get it”..so why should we???? I hope he flourishes somewhere else, good for him. But I, personally, am sick of being “abused” by watching his game.

Name ONE free agent that would want to come to NJ to play with “Yi”?…don’t worry I"ll wait…..exactly…Brooke Lopez? Definitely. Devin Harris? Maybe. Yi? Not a chance in jianlin! My point is the other two players have that “status”, and Yi is “supposed” to have that status. So why isn’t anyone else caring except our front office and the thirty-two Yi fans out there. He had three or four really good games in a row. So what?!? So did Dwayne Schintzius!

I’m not sure if Amare is exactly what we need or if he would fit in with Lopez. Our team needs a guy who you can run the offence through and be a playmaker. Now Amare is a guy who you can run a offence through but I don’t think I would consider him a playmaker. However, his presence would open up shots for a lot of other players and improve our team a lot (to a respectable team). If we add him I would hope we trade Devin for more of a playmaker/distributer because I feel that CDR could explode with the presence of a Amare on our team and if we keep Devin he will limit the shots of Lopez/Amare/CDR not to mention I don’t think he really gets the best out of team with his style.
Now for the the reasons why we shouldn’t get Amare. While I beleive if we get him we would resign him, I have a feeling his injury problems will catch up to him and in a few years we will be stuck with a bloated contract for an injury prone player.
So it comes down to it, is it a risk you are willing to make. I beleive we should. It makes the team a lot more appealing to FAs and it beats signing a decent FA to a large contract. (Like Detroit did last offseason)

Net Fans always manage to pull out the negatives towards any and everybody. I guarantee even if we do get Lebron or Wade even Bosh y’all will find SOMETHING to complain about them that’s my word.

Amare will most likely not resign with the 3-40 nets, and Lebron isn’t coming.

so happy for Yi if he can be traded.

honestly, Nets’s status right now is DEFINITELY not Yi’s fault. He tries hard and puts efforts in his games, so pitty you still ignore it.

You know everytime when Yi is interviewed by Chinese media. He never says anything bad about the team and his teammates. He just keeps telling everyone that he still needs put extra efforts to help winning. That’s the attitude you should really appreciate.

I don’t think that the Knicks are going to let David Lee get away……

haha…yi is “abusing” the nets and t-will has so much upside…this is yi vs SWat all over again….where is that knucklehead SWat now? nets fans are in love with highlight play guys who throws computers at people and sleep through shootarounds then think the world is against them.

Get Amare! With Amare and Brook in the bag, we just need to pray to get just one more….either Wall or James.

If we win the lottery, then we get Wall to play with Brook and Amare. If we lose the lottery, then we have Brook, Amare, and Brooklyn to show for to James while courting him to play for us.

If we don’t get Amare now, then everyone will be praying a million halleluiah for us to win the lottery. If we lose, then what on earth are we going to show to James or Wade to convince them to sign-up?

Evan Turner is playing better right now in college than Wall. This guy can score, rebound and dish. If he could keep this up and Bring his A game to the next level he could easily average a triple double. I think this is the guy that we need manning the PG position not Wall. Imagine a six foot six PG manning the floor like the Kings with Evans and then if we get Amar’e. And also if we snag Lebron or a Ray Allen type of a player (a shooter) plus a defensive SF like Kirilenko or Tayshaun Prince and an improve bench. We could be a contender next year in the playoffs.