wow. Thorn always denies trades and trade rumors. don’t all GMs and presidents though? they can’t start rumors ecspecialy the ones started by their own words.

and its smartnot to trade harris now. it would make more sense on draft night when we get john wall, hopefully. then we trade him and get a good player in return who can contribute to this team. maybe a real power forward or small forward. then we just move cdr to the 2.

great work, Rod…… stay the course……. don’t wanna mess with a winning formula or upset the delicate chemistry that brought us where we are.

always wonderful to have a visionary, dynamic leader like Rod Thorn.

kibosh

@ oligarch

Are you suggesting that Devin Harris for Caron Butler will give the Nets a “winning formula?”

He denied it in as clear language as he can. He was reacting to all the ESPN hype. He left little wiggle room…almost none.

The Nets see Harris as a key player. As Iannazzone has written, some in the front office like the idea of trying to play the two of them together.

And which power forward do you think the Nets, 3-38, would be able to get for Harris? What’s the opposite side of the deal? I don’t to deal in abstracts. The only name anyone mentioned was Caron Butler who Thorn said he has never had a conversation about with the Wizards. Translation: he has NEVER liked Butler. (One reason: he is one of the worst defenders in the NBA.)

@YehYeh
Thank you.

Let’s assume the Nets get the #1 pick. Do they keep Harris and see how he and Wall they play together? Do they trade him for another lottery pick?

Should make for an exciting 2010.

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Thank You Thorn for putting all this foolishness to rest HAHAHA! Very Smart MAN!

NI: So… What do YOU, the wisest of all Nets fans, want to happen and what do you think will happen after this season?

I still say, and will continue to say, we need to contact Sacramento and find out if they’re interested in swapping Kevin Martin for Devin

Like everyone else I am curious what we would do if we get the first pick and draft Wall (clearly best player/prospect in college basketball) Do we trade Harris or try to play both of them together? Either way that is another guard and creating more of jam at the position.

At the risk of jinxing ourselves and asking what if, why Doesn’t Dave D ask what if we get John Wall?

I agree with Net Income…Harris is a key player in the future of this team and I doubt they would throw him away and put their hopes in an unproven 19 year old kid. At this point in the season there is no guarantee that we will even get John Wall anyway, and even if we do, the idea of playing them together is really intriguing.

The only problem, however, is that right after Thorn denies he will trade someone, that person is usually gone less than a week later. I remember articles like this right before the RJ trade and even more articles like this right before the VC trade. Hopefully Thorn is being honest for once but reading articles like this actually make me more speculative than ever.

Thorn isn’t stupid just sayin’

Devin can’t play D, can’t Shoot the rock if his mama’s life was on the line, can’t push the rock, can’t feed the rock, has zero court vision, can’t lead the team… How is this guy an NBA point guard>>??? Trade the bum..

caron butler for harris is idiotic as it is so it comes as no surprise that thorn would strongly deny it since he doesn’t want this kind of stupidity associated with his name.

i hope the lakers go on a losing streak against the elite teams and give up on bynum…it is idiotic for them to trade bynum for harris as well but i hope out of desperation they will…

"Very, Very Unlikely We’d Trade Devin"

HAHAHA! Y’all madd now hahaha!

To all Nets Fans: Be patient! I know, its been a tough, nightmare of a season, but the Nets are in good shape. Look at the Hawks and how bad they were about 4 years ago and look at them now. Thats what happens when you draft well and you have cap space and they weren’t prime destination like NY or LA.
So the nightmare is halfway over, and the Nets will hopefully draft Wall, then have a healthy Harris or use him as a trade chip depending on their free agent signings. And Lopez will be in his third year which is usually the breakout year for players emerging and 2010 should be that for Lopez even though hes had a very good year despite the teams record. But even if they dont get “Level A” free agents, its definitloy possible to get a David Lee or Amar’e or Rudy Gay.
Also remember that Devin Harris played more of a shooting guard in college so he could make the transition to sg if we draft John Wall, and I believe Harris will get his shot back and go into attack mode. July is sooner than you guys think.

Good, At this point just wait. Why trade him just to get a few more wins? Wait and see what his value is. If he can help us win keep him. If he’s a valuable peice, trade him. But don’t do a trade just to make a trade. This season is done.

" But I’ll be candid with you, I think we’re going to be better than people think. I really do.". – Rod Thorn, Sept 23, 2009

Why pay attention to anything this man says? I have come to the conclusion that the Nets want to lose. Everything starts to make sense. I guess I should wear the opposing team’s jersey and root for them to win in order to enjoy my remaining tickets.

Rod Thorn is a good team president. Anywho I think if the nets aquire wall they test the market for Devo. Unproven 19 year old? That is a point but we can’t deny John Wall looks like a superstar and he’s a guard which means its likely to be deceiving as happens a lot more with big men Kwame Brown and the other “big” busts. At the same type there was a lot of hype about Beasly and he’s been ok but not what was expected. I never thought he’d be as good a people said though didn’t have that certain superstar quality like Wall does and most agreed before the draft but later in the year Rose was the better prospect. But I digress, you test the marker for devin likely find his value is still down and most teams offering are trying to con you as you have to good point guards. So unless there a deal you don’t want to pass which isn’t likely you play them together. And if wall turns out to be as what we expect by midseason and unless playing with Devin is super effective (its intriguing) you look at trading devin at the deadline a year from now to make a push for the playoffs hopefully. Thats if we acquire Wall of course.

Both Caron and Devin are having down years. Can’t see us trading Devin until we have an upgrade at PG in the bag, and I can’t see how Butler helps us build a contender. But there is no way that Butler is one of the worst defenders in the NBA as stated above. Not the best or the most focused, but better than anything we have. Here’s somewhat dated DraftExpress on the subject:

“Defensively, Butlers size, strength and quickness make him a tough matchup for most small forwards to deal with. He denies dribble penetration very well and uses his body to good effect when trying to disrupt opponent’s drives. He’s active and aggressive with his hand and foot action on nights when he’s feeling challenged, though he isn’t 100 percent consistent with it against every player. Butler rarely gets posted by opposing small forwards and has the strength and aptitude to situationally defend some power forwards, which he does on occasion.”

@Hopeful Net Fan

I respect that post. I love when people know they’re basketball outside of the Nets organization. I said that a million times Harris is not a true point guard he always played the 2 back in his college days in Wisconsin. He transitioned to point after Nash left the Mavs and signed with the Suns and furthermore he does not have the size to be a 2 guard in the NBA. Again Hopeful Net Fan great post!

This is just to tell all those teams who will be low-balling the Nets with ridiculous offers to GET LOST!!!

Low-ball offers only work for NJ Nets tickets this season :D ha ha ha

@J-Kay

Trade our small, somewhat injury-prone scoring guard for another small, somewhat injury-prone scoring guard? We Nets fans rail Devin for poor defense. Who can Kevin Martin defend? We rail Devin for not being able to lead us to wins as the team captain. What has Kevin Martin won, ever?

The grass isn’t always greener, folks.

IF this is true, I don’t blame Thorn for holding out on trading Devin until we see what happens in the draft

But it’s funny how some people are quick to believe Thorn now, when in the past he would say “nothing is happening” and a week or so later someone gets shipped out. I guess when Thorn starts b.s.‘ing, it must be true because the player he’s talking about is always defended on here by certain people. This season has been truly something as far as b.s. goes

Thorn is a master of spin and doesn’t ever show his hand. I wouldn’t put it past him to make a deal for Harris if the return was solid.

“Ispartan Says:
January 21st, 2010 at 11:11 pm

" But I’ll be candid with you, I think we’re going to be better than people think. I really do.". – Rod Thorn, Sept 23, 2009

Why pay attention to anything this man says?"

Exactly.

http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/01/22/the-harris-wall-conundrum-nba-trade-mechanics-through-a-formulaic-approach/ awesome awesome post on hardwood paroxysm on the harris wall conundrum. You must must read this if you want to have a thinking process on the cost benefit analysis of trading devin

@kuljo i will be lowballing the nets with my season ticket renewal this yr. There are 1200 season ticket holders and that number is about to go down to about 60O. God forbid we get a free agent (Lebron) it’ll be the best investment I ever made lol.

@KFranchise
There was no such discussion of RJ not being traded before the 2008 Draft. There were in fact more than a year’s worth of rumors of RJ going here or there, none of which were denied.

@jabez
Butler is not having a bad year. He is in decline, period. He is 30 years old and he has been in decline for three straight years. Harris is 26 and has had a season from hell: groin and wrist injuries which Kiki said three days ago he not yet fully recovered from; a horrible team; a worse coach; an ownership unwilling to spend money, etc. You don’t throw away a 26 year old for crap because of what’s happening this season. NO one should be judged on this season, other than Kiki of course. Harris’ contract is among the best in the NBA for his level of success. At no point does it hit $10 million. In the last year, his salary goes down! Butler already makes more than Harris.

The best point guards in the NBA are combo guards. You guys are stuck in the mid-1990’s. The rules changed. How many of the top 15 assist men are averaging less than 15 points a game this season? Three: Rondo at 14 amidst the Big Three; Kidd; and the great Chris Duhon.

We won’t trade him unless we get the number 1 draft pick its that simple

Dave D makes a great point. He points out the fact that most of those rumors are being circulated by “out-of-towners using speculation and third-hand info”.

“But I’ll be candid with you, I think we’re going to be better than people think. I really do.". – Rod Thorn, Sept 23, 2009

In 2010! Not this season. lol.

"It’s very, very unlikely that we’d trade Devin"

In other words he’s not getting an offer that he likes but as soon as he does, see ya.

Make no mistake about it Thorn’s is the master of the trade. I don’t think anybody is better at accomplishing his goal. Fans that don’t like him just can’t relate to his genius or are frustrated by his mind games. Between him, Proky and Brooklyn this is going to be great. At 69 years old, he’s setting up the final piece of his legacy and will go out like no other. In ROD WE TRUST!

That hardwood paroxysm link was interesting but here is my mathematical equation:

NJ 2010 harris vs wall = Portland 1984 drexler vs jordan.

I have not read the hardwood link yet…but I have always said Devin is more of a 2 guard. Devin is a scorer more than a distributor. He is a guy that can consistently get you 18-20 per night. He’s also the same size as Lee for those of you who want to say he is too small to play SG. Many teams are getting smaller in the backcourt as more combos enter the league. A few days ago I posted that the Nets should actually start TWill at the point, moving Devin to the SG – TWill is a better distributor, Devin a scorer – and the starting 5 becomes more dynamic.

Devin has always played better when paired with an All Star in the back court. He even plays better when on the court with Dooling at the same time. I think it would make a lot of sense to play Devin exclusively at the 2 for the remainder of the year (with either Dooling or TWill at the point). If we get lucky in the draft – pairing Wall and Devin together in the backcourt would be dynamic. We would instantly have the quickest most exciting back court in the league. Paired with Brook this team is going places. Trading Devin this season will not happen, nor should it.

A guy named 60cent posted this on Realgm forum and i think he made very good point regarding the rumors about trading Devin Harris.

“Just wanna end this trade talk concerning Devin until draft day… Unless some homer trades comes along, of course we’ll take it…

Personally, i would love to see Devin gone now but according to the rumors and Thorn’s recent comments regarding Devin, although it wasnt cleared, just my own opinion… I have a feeling that they will play out Devin’s role to this team until the draft. Now, a few things may happen…

One, if we get lucky enough to get the first pick, they might try to play Devin with Wall. Devin can either be a mentor for Wall for a little while or he can become a trade asset… First, it would depend on his game, which i think would improve due to less responsibilities, given the fact that we might be able to sign a star quality player with all this cap space… And second, a big part of it would depend on his health and if he can show he’s injury-free and durable, it will be a huge plus for the future plans. If that happens, they will immediately sell high, which is not a bad move and we’re only going to give ourselves not even a year from now since we’ve waited this long. We can ride this out partly because Devin has a decent contract and it’ll not hurt our chances for free agency.

Next, by draft time, when we already know we would not be getting the top pick, we can either TRY to trade Devin if someone is crazy enough and with Thorn’s ability, for a better TRUE point guard during that time, whether it’d be for a pick or for more of an established player… Or we can just simply let Devin get healthy and hope that he will get his game back because he once proved he can play, and maybe try to improve his weaknesses and might become a better player, and that’s still a possibility.

Most Nets fans know Devin can play and that’s why we dont really want to just give him up unless we are getting a player we think is valuable. We are somewhat getting impatient due to the mess we’re in right now, we just want to see improvement and results."

Also think of the depth we would have on our bench in Courtney Lee and CDR and TWill for next season. Combine that even with Hump and Yi – and every key player for this team pre free agency is under 26. Suddenly this team becomes a much more attractive landing spot for free agents. The Atlanta reference was a good one from a prior post.

And Rod and Kiki should do whatever it takes to get Robin from Phoenix…I would go so far as offering Yi (or Boone if they want cap relief) and the Dallas pick. Potentially throw in Miami’s second rounder as well. The return on investment would be much better going this route, than if we were to land Amare or Bosh…

When I glanced at the heading for this, I thought it said, Thorn: very unlikely we will win another game!"

Two reasons I hate basketball: 1) it seems to be the only sport where teams give up on a whole season for the next year 2)it’s too much about stars, too one on one (Watching Kobe and Lebron last night was a little sickening: I like a team game).

at hopeful:

“I know, its been a tough, nightmare of a season, but the Nets are in good shape”

This isn’t your ordinary run of the mill horrenous 25-win season that most of us were expecting out of this pathetic roster. This isn’t even 1989-90 when that putrid team managed just 17 wins en route to picking Derrick Coleman # 1 in the NBA Draft.

No hopeful – this is almost certainly going to be the WORST season in the HISTORY of the NBA!!!!

This is absolutely unfathomable and inexcusable. We have Bruce Ratner to thank although I highly doubt he will be at many more home games for us to properly show him our gratitude.

We are not going to get C.B. or A.S. Both are over priced free agents that effect our salary cap.
The draft is the way to go along with trading C.Lee and picks for a high pick in 2010.

You can tell last night, the little I watched, the game was all about Lebron and Kobe. Lebron could care less about beating the Lakers, he just wanted to one up Kobe.

And yes this season is even beyond what anyone of us thought it would be! Most were giving the Nets 20-25 wins and some were even going out on the limb with 35 wins. Now, we can’t even get 5! Disgusting. We should see if Kittles and Van Horn want to come out of retirement just to see if they can get us to 10 wins, so we don’t set the record.

Thank you, Mr. Big. If people think that Thorn wouldnt trade Harris especially after we get Wall you are a dreamer. Thorn is a cerebral assassin. He just shut down any GMs that think they can get harris for garbage.

If we lose tomorrow we improve our chances of getting the record for most double digit losing streaks in a season! Another record to rack up to this team.

I think this team needs to be mostly blown up because a lot of our problems are chemistry based too. We already heard reports of courtney lee, CDR, and TWill only hanging out with themselves and not mingling with everyone else. A team that doesn’t like each other is a team that won’t communicate and help each other. And CDR wants to wonder why no one would help him out if he gets into a scuffle with an opponent. And I think it’s quite obvious there is no communication whatsoever on the defensive side for us. And on offense it’s just everyone for themselves.

Thorn is playing poker here. It probably is very very unlikely Nets would trade Devin anytime soon because his value is so low right now that teams like the Lakers are offering Adam Morrison and Jordan Farmar for him. But I still think Thorn would trade him for better talent. Thorn has been so complimentary of Harris through this whole season, despite Harris’s subpar play. I am suspicious of Thorn calling Harris a great player, a terrific player, etc. Seems to me Thorn is trying to raise Harris’ perceived value. He is pushing the idea that Harris is a consistent all star player floundering in an impossible situation…perhaps true but doubtful in my eyes.

If Lebron said to Clev. I’m not coming back and Clev. offered him to the Nets for Lopez, would Thorn do it? The point is things change and who knows whats in the future. What’s interesting to me is how will Nets get what they need to turn it around. Obviously it will be easy to improve but to contend for a title might not be so easy.

Don’t believe the spin…Devin Harris can be had, all that matters is the price that other GMs are willing to pay

Another thing…those of you talking about pairing Devin and Wall… Harris can’t bothered to defend guys his size, what makes you think that the Nets will fare well with this guy having to match up against NBA two guards?

The only player on this roster that is untouchable is Lopez. Everyone else will be moved if the deal is right.

@ Net Income

Can John Wall and Devin Harris co-exist?

If we make any trades with LA, it would have to be to obtain Sasha Vujacic and Shannon Brown, just so at some point, we can go small and have a lineup of Devin, Shannon, Courtney, Sasha and Brook.

Harris for Ridnour, Illyasova, and Bucks 2010 first round pick. Bucks get hometown boy Harris to play alongside Jennings. Nets get another 6.5 million in 2010 cap space, good shooters in Ridnour and Illyasova (who is signed to a good deal for another two seasons), and what looks to be a late lottery pick in 2010 draft….but if Milwaukee falters it could be a better pick.

Edit deal to make Ryan and Dirt Happy -

Harris, Boone, for Ridnour, Illysova, Meeks, and 2010 first rounder.

Should make Ryan happy because he loves Jodie Meeks; Dirt happy because his first name is Jodie.

Let’s assume we are not getting Wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who are the next 3 best players coming out and who should we focus on?

Why is that we must trade Harris? We have already lost enough good players such as VC, JKidd, RJ, and even Kristic. Losing Harris will make the team even worse. At this point, it’s better to keep him than trade him. Unless it lands the team a very good player, he should stay. As for Lebron James, he will probably stay with the Cavs after threatening them to sign for even more money than he already deserves.

I don’t see Devin being able to play off the ball. Not to mention, he went from successfully defending Tony Parker to not being able to guard the basketball anymore. If we get the number 1 pick(which we won’t I guarantee) the Nets might give Harris a look in the back court, but ultimately will trade him.

just like someone with good court vision is not essentially a point guard/playmaker, a point guard who averages more than 15ppg is not essentially a combo guard.

Mikee21 -

As a Wisconsin alumn, I watched Devin play almost every game in his collegiate career. He always was the PG on that team. I have no idea where you get your info from to support that. With the exception of his freshman year, Travon Davis primarily ran the point.

Harris is a “shoot first” PG because these awful Nets teams have required him to do so. In Dallas, Devin was inserted into games to provide defense and actually functioned as their best ball distributor. In college, he was also known for his defense. My hypothesis about his perceived poor defense this season is that it is not due to any lack of defensive skill, but an intent to stay out of foul trouble. Devin clearly is as fast, if not faster, than most of the guys he guards, and it appears that he now guards guys so as to avoid foul trouble. He does not hand check or tightly guard and relies frequently on a big man to step up and deter the shot. Maybe this is a realization that on a team which lacks any bench talent, him sitting on the bench in foul trouble does the team little good. I would hope Lopez picked up a lesson in that.

Evan Turner from Ohio State…….Saturday @ 2PM on CBS…..I would be excited to see him as a Net…I wish that we could land him and Wall….WOW !!!!!..(WALL…Kentucky…Saturday @ 4PM..CBS ??? Not Sure….

There is more of a chance that Yi would be traded than Harris.

Afterall, Thorn and Proky make the decisions, not Kiki and Yormarketing

The main reason Yi probably wouldn’t be traded before deadline, is that he wouldn’t bring much back. However, the discovery of Humphries changes things.

If Nets are planning to draft a guard and get DLee as their first FA catch, and a big man with the Dallas pick, then there might not be much point to keep Yi. At least if traded now Yi could free up 4 million additional space or else bring back a good player in a packaged deal.

Most likely I predict Yi gets traded at a later time during the summer after Thorn knows what remaining pieces are needed.

@Jarkid
Even if Nets got Wall, he would need at least 1/2 season to develop into a PG. Most PGs take much longer, though he is exceptional. Of course Wall and Harris could co-exist for most of their first year. Harris’ value should only increase with Wall and he could still be traded before the Feb 2011 deadline for higher value than today.

(Did anyone see the Kentucky game / Wall yesterday? Not sure if anyone small network covered it.)

However, Nets have to consider drafting legit 6’7" Evan Turner. He’s like a combo SG, PG and SF and is good at all 3 (unlike TWill). I think Ohio State plays tonight on TV?

Would Harris and Turner coexist? I think they would help each other and then either CDR or CLee gets traded at a higher value than today.

If the Nets get Wall and land Amare + Lebron this summer ouch!

@ Adam II

Nice post.

@jerry25

Agree your views if we get Wall. I also think Evan Turner might be a Brandon Roy clone. Good size. Spending the year at PG so learning to handle and distribute while being the number one scoring option. Wall is explosive. Turner is smooth – deceptively quick just like Roy. Turner is overlooked because he is in his third year and people like the new new new thing. Turner is also a glue guy doing about everything and you tend not to notice until the game is over. Plus he heals fast. Second place in the draft is not all bad all the time (OKC being the most recent example!). Drafting Turner also frees of wing assets to trade for the big nasty spit in your eye, put Lebron on the wood when he casually drives the lane, send the shooter up into the third row to meet the fans when he spots up with leasurely three pointer Power Forward.

Thorn just ensured he will go down in infamy as the President of the worst team ever. Harris the fraud as your focal point is a great way to lose 70+. Worst all around pg the Nets have ever had. DEVIN IS THE WORST DEFENSIVE PG IN HISTORY since joining the Nets. Simply hideous

Just checked and Evan Turner Ohio State are on CBS tomorrow at 2PM.
Turner seems like a cross between Joe Johnson and a shorter Kevin Durant. He’s going to be an All-Star too.

Nets can do no worse than 4th pick, and their is always the possibility of trading up if Nets don’t get #1/#2 pick and TWolves get a better pick.

How about Xavier Henry?

This would be nice…….Draft Evan Turner……Get Lebron and David Lee and get the Rights to Rubio…..(Minny is never going to use this guy as long as they have Flynn and especially if they get Wall)…Our starting line up for “2010”…Brook Lopez….David Lee….Lebron James….Evan Turner…..Ricky Rubio……..Have Harris come off the bench as a Spark plug like he was in Dallas and we now have an excellent Power Forward in “The Humph” coming off the Bench…We also have CLEE.YI..TWILL…CDR.and keep Battie or Draft a Back Up Center…on the Bench….Not too shabby and very possible.That’s a championship team….

If we have a Top 3 pick, we’re solid. Wall, Turner, and Favors are all All-Stars.

@Johnny
After last night’s Cleveland win, LeBron could actually win a Championship this year and be ready to move on to be heir to the King of Brooklyn. Otherwise he would probably stay another year in Cleveland and see how the Nets look after 2011 season.

In the event that Nets got Wall or Turner and LeBron wins a championship and was really interested in Nets, if they also got a PF, then maybe NetIncome could outline what it would take in terms of capspace?

I’m not sure if Nets could get both Amare and LeBron or just DLee and LeBron?

They would have to buy out Dooling and somehow lose Yi’s salary (since he wouldn’t get PT anyway).
 
If Amare says he would consider Nets, then imagine with LeBron also, it would be a no-brainer.

Question is would they have to take a smaller salary? DWade is on record with NoWay for to anything but MAX.

I would be more than happy with both DLee and LeBron and Lee could probably be taken at a more reasonable price if he knew he would be playing with LeBron for a championship.

Nets lineup if LeBron wins championship this season:
BLopez
Amare or DLee
LeBron
Wall or Turner
Harris

Backup’s are Humphries, CLee, CDR, TWill and Dallas pick(a Center).

Since DLee is probably going to be an All-Star and Wall or Turner will be in 1-2 years, it is basically an All Star team if Harris can return to form, without injury.

DUMBO!!! What makes them think that the Cavs may even have the slightest chance to convince the Nets into giving them Harris this season??? Why would the Nets give Harris and eventually satisfy LBJ? If LBJ gets a ring this year or gets very comfortable that the cavs has a team that can win it next year, then all the more that he may decide to stay!

The NETS wants LBJ to leave the Cavs, right?

@kuljo,

Some of these National writers are so dumb. Nets would never trade Devin to Cavs unless returning piece is LBJ. We still would need a PG if we don’t get wall. Such an idiot that Ken Berger.

@ Adam
http://www.nba.com/nets/video/2010/01/11/1on1withdeviniPhonem4v-1178233/index.html

in defense to saying that devin never played shooting guard. he says at the 45second part of this interview that he was known for more of a shooting guard when first going into Wisconsin and made the transition to point guard. so if we draft wall, i believe harris can be more of make the transition back to shooting guard. he will get his shot back once he is fully healthy. with his on and off injuries this season, it brought him out of rhythm and its also tough for him to score when he has one other guy on the team that can score, Lopez.
since kiki took over, cdr has declined dramatically and courtney lee has been disappointing. i dont think yi deserves my time, so i won’t comment on him, but if your a net fan, then you can guess. also our bench is just sad. mostly all those guys wont be in the nba next year, but i’ll give it to dooling, hes got heart.

Kiki now on the record as well, in Marc Spears column on Yahoo…

Despite speculation the New Jersey Nets might be inclined to trade Devin Harris(notes), general manager and coach Kiki Vandeweghe says the franchise has "no interest" in moving its point guard. An All-Star last season, Harris is averaging 15.6 points, six assists and 3.2 rebounds in just 15 games.

"Devin is an All-Star caliber point guard," Vandeweghe said. "He has been hurt most of this year. He’s had a right wrist injury that has hampered shooting. He’s getting healthy, slowly.

"He’s a young point guard, one of the best in the league, and those guys you don’t move."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AlxFiH4R6NDrJxMvHArfH1K8vLYF?slug=mc-afterthebuzzer012210&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I’ve worked for three companies that were sold. The new owners came in, and said the reason they bought the company, was that they liked it, and that no changes were planned. Within a year, all the top management of these companies were gone.
Devin would be gone next week, for the right combination of things, you can bet on it. The only untouchable on the team is Brook. I thought that Najera was untouchable, but Mark Cuban took him, so that he would have someone to give and intentional foul in the playoffs. THANKS MARK! THE HUMPH will be playing 25 minutes a game for the rest of the year, and scoring double figures and getting more rebounds than Yi for the same amount of minutes. THANKS MARK!

Personally I don’t think DH is a championship PG
John Wall is.
DH and Wall could not start together they bith need the ball.
DH to the Lakers would be nice if the Nets could get Gasol or Bynum
DH to Memphis is my hope, add a SF and get Gay and Conley in return.
If the Nets don’t get Wall its ok there is plenty of talent in the top 4
Turner OSU
Johnson Syracuse
Favors DTech
Monroe GTown
Sleeper PG Grevious from MD late 1st round
If Minn gets Wall, NJ could try for Rubio

@djheavyduty

“Personally I don’t think DH is a championship PG
John Wall is.”

This is a totally baseless comment. How has a freshmen college basketball player proved he is a championship pt guard. Remember, 25% to get Wall. If you get 25% on an exam….what is that….failure.

TWilliams needs to be sent down to the D League

those in the D League deserve a shot at the NBA … who knows maybe we’ll get sumone like a Gaines ….. but honestly THEY NEED A SHOT…. especially on THIS TEAM

get someone like gaines?? Sundiata Gaines? he had one miraculous game. that was it, he is averaging 3.0 ppg. players who are in the d-league, are there for a reason. is there a player in the nba right now, who was brought up from the d-league that is an actual contributor on a team? i’m not sure but i highly doubt it.

twill doesn’t need to go down to the d-league, he needs to work on his shot at practice, and before practice and after practice. he’s a heck of an athlete, and he has potential on the defensive side of the ball, so he needs to gain the work ethic and he has the potential to be a solid player in the league. look at kobe, lebron, vince, and t-mac, they didn’t have a great outside shot when they first came to the league, but by the time their third and fourth seasons came along, you saw the improvement of their game when they mixed in the outside shots and then use their athleticism to get to the basket. I;m not sayin twill is the next tmac or vince, but hes got strong potential, give him time, just like you have to give the rebuilding Nets time.

Doesn’t Caron’s contract end soon? Devin is extra valuable because he’s signed for a few more years at a great price.

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Key words: “When I came to Wisconsin, I was known as a shooting guard”, and he goes on to talk how he developed into a PG. Like I said, he was THE PG, with the exception of his true freshman year, and was always known for his defense. Wisconsin does not recruit guys incapable of playing defense, nor does anyone leave the program without being a good defender.

I am trying to make the point that Harris is not what the bandwagon detractors are saying. He can play D, he can distribute more if that is what the Nets want (which makes little sense given the lack of shooters or threats on this team). It is silly to talk about trading him when ultimately, the Nets would still need a PG to lead this team.

Kiki is playing now on NBATV in the 1984 All Star game.

My Plan IFFFF we get the top pick.

1. Offer a package to the Lakers of Harris, Yi, T-Will and this year’s 2nd rounder (or next year’s first if they push), OR Harris, Humphries, Lee, and this year’s 2nd rounder for Gasol BEFORE free agency opens.

2. Show off Wall, Gasol, and Lopez to the top free agents (James and Wade mainly); IF James was truly considering us at all, and if he truly wants to win, he comes here.

3. Sign Allen Iverson, making the vets minimum to round out the starting line-up.

4. Pick up a solid 3-point shooter at the 1, 2, or 3 for the bench if we didn’t get one in the draft.

I know Iverson is old, but he’s very gettable and cheap.. and we’d keep some $$$ which comes is handy.. and old wouldn’t matter cuz with that lineup we’d be instant championship contenders.