We are just beyond terrible. I blame Jessica Taff—at halftime, she called today "Martin Luther King Day Jr." Seriously, we are beyond analyzing what is wrong with the team. It is now time to consider whom do we trust with the draft picks and other resources that we have to put together a winning team. I’ve been a big Kiki and Rod supporter, but have changed my mind. Time to clean house and replace the team’s management. Do it, Proky.

Yi’kes

ROFL. Did she really? Only sorry I didn’t see it live.
Do you think jumping ship at the Exact, precise moment only adds more to the beautiful genius legend that is:
Michelle Beadle?

Two words: Yi sucks

No effort. No defense. No pride. I question Kiki for this: why does he have Yi of no shot and no intensity, invisible Yi, out there in garbage time but to pad his stats. Why does Kiki want him to score meaningless buckets when he was 1 – 10 and a total non factor? Yi is not a starting PF and I would say that LA has 3 or 4 PF’s that would start over Yi. Let him sit with his 2 points. Why reward him with garbage minutes. Let Boone play.

We’re a bad team :/

But I’m not giving up on this team until July.

They need to start playing guys who put up effort. Humphries deserves the chance ti play 30+ mins a game. Yi is playing soft now, I dunno what happened to him. He is settling and not being aggressive…this is what happens when the head coach has an agenda that gives you everything on a plate.

Another thing, CDR needs to get a kick in his a…, I was disgusted by what I saw from him today. Okay, Kiki is an idiot and the system sucks, but pick your head up and start playing hard regardless. Someone needs to pull him to the side and let him know that hard work and hustle trumps ALL. I’m disappointed in him right now. Stop twittering and play hard. Be a professional.

Its all because of YI.
He cant play defense.
He cant get a rebound.
And today, if you dont include YI, We wouldve ended up shooting 50%.
Get this guy off this team. Trade him to Houston. Its obvious the players on the team even dont like him. Forget about the China money or whatever he can get you. He is killing this team.

Yi has no defensive awareness whatsoever. But the thing is, he’s gonna be a starter as long as he’s healthy.

Like the aggression out of Humphries.

Kris Humphries played well, i liked!

I found it laughable that with around 3 minutes in the game, all the subs come in but Yi, of course to make his stat line look less embarassing.

I was watching the LAC feed on Comcast.
One of the announcers was saying how bad Nets were for the whole game and that there was no way they could find 7 wins rest of season.

I guess the bright side of today’s game is that we now know that Yi won’t be starting next year (Kiki must be disappointed). Bring on DLee at any cost.

Also Humphreys is a keeper, which means that Boone Will be traded.
Nets would have 5-6 more wins if Humphreys had been playing all year.

Beginning to think that Hayes isn’t worth keeping.

With all the players having an uncertain future, is part of reason for poor team play and defense. This usually happens before trade deadline for Nets. However, this year it should continue until end of year with all the non-returnings.

@Antoine
I noticed the same thing.

If only TWill would be given 1/2 the same treatment, we would have the same number of losses, but TWill would be much further along.

He was letting Yi turn his horrible performance around. Which is good since he rides a shooting % wave based on his current confidence level. I would like to see all the starters play in the 4th in blowouts personally, for punishment.

Every time the Nets play on the road, and I watch a game on another channel but YES, all announcers say they can’t believe how the Nets have won 3 games, because the starters are actually good.

Our bench, apart from Humphries, stunk, again. We have a bed bench, I repeat.

Bad defence + Bad bench = NJ Nets.

I love Kris Humpries great trade
Now we have to make more, its getting embarassing and he cant win. Why arent Bobby Simmons, Boone, and Battie playing? You dont want to try to get better?
Pathetic line up and ran

Ronnie

There is no one person to blame for having 3 wins. This is a management, coaching, and player problem. Simply pinning the blame on Yi is unfair.

Another poster hit it on the head. There is nothing left to analyze. The team is bad and the players are just counting the days until the season is over. From here on out the only discussion should be about individual players and how they fit or dont fit into the future.

I’m no longer a nets fan. I’m a fan of ping pong balls.

ill be on strike. My only words will be Nets suck till we win

Nets suck, suck, suck

P.S nice game by humphries. finally some1 decent off the bench!!!

Nets suck

I have just bottomed for the 3rd straight game.

How is Ratner getting away with this? How? How?

I think we should start Humphrie instead of yi… It seems like Brook plays better when Humphrie is on the floor.

It’s really a shame and sad to hear that the Nets wont be able to win 6 games for the remaining second half of the season coming from one of the clippers announcer. As much as I hate to say it, that announcer might be right… especially with the way we’re playing.

The Nets will be making history this season, they will literally be the worst team in NBA history. Meaning the worst at everything; rebounds, points, fg%, 3pt%, etc.

When I am watching these horrible games, sometimes I wonder and ask myself why am I still a Nets fan or why am I still supporting this team. They are a total embarrassment, not only to the whole league, but they are an embarrassment to all Nets fans. It’s embarrassing to call myself a Nets fan right now, because when the whole league is making fun of how bad your team is, it feels like they are making fun of all the fans as well.
I know longer have that pride whenever I call myself a Nets fan. Every time someone ask what kind of fan I am, I shamefully and embarrassingly say I am a Nets fan.

The Nets wont always be bad…. dont be a fair weather fan.

Big Game from THE HUMPH! But….will we ever win another game?
That’s two jersey’s I’d like. Caspi from the kings and a NETS Jersey that says: THE HUMPH! The only jersey I own now, is a #1 NJ Nets, with ERSTEIN on the back. I dream of being JKIDD’s twin brother! This losing is making me crazier than usual. Need more pills!

I was at work so I didn’t watch
Thank god!
Yi 3-13? 3 rebounds in 30 mins?
Whoever says CDR should be on the bench needs to look at Yi.
Hump should start at PF
TWill should start
Lee had a good game 5-10 and 1-4 from 3
LMAO
This is becoming comical
Seriously!

Why does Del Harris even show up? I don’t think we should all be rippin’ Kiki a new one. He is not a head couch…He even admitted he wasn’t a head coach; however, the Nets are so effed up right now we had no choich but to throw Kiki to the wolves. In effort to soften that punch, they brought in Del Harris who is an accomplished coach and could mentor Kiki.

In my opinion, if I was Kiki, I’d just let Del run this team and be his assistant rather than vice versa. I’m sure there some contractual or political reason why this is not happening…But jeez, he’s sitting right there. Do something!

Bottom line, Kiki is methodical and saavy…Which is why he belongs in the front office, not on the sideline. Don’t rip Kiki for being a terrible coach when he’s admittingly not even a real coach.

Kiki is disgusting. He actually makes L Frank look like a great coach. He is that bad!!! I cannot believe that someone would be so infatuated with a soft, all hype-no heart like Yi! Unbelievable.

Clippers aren’t going to make the playoffs in the West.

So why shouldn’t they trade the aging Marcus Camby before the trade deadline to try to get something for him?
His present salary is about $9 million.

Trade Boone and Battie (LAC saves $1 million) for Camby and throw in Draft pick(s) to make it worthwhile to LA.

With Camby on Nets, I really think they would finish strong, assuming Nets get a defense oriented coach after Proky takes over.

Nets would have option to re-sign Camby for a couple more years. He’s probably better than any big man they could get in draft.

Result is that by forfeiting draft picks, Nets would be respectable team.

Does anyone know LAC financial situation to want to unload Camby, rather than getting nothing for him in free agency??

Start:
  
C-Brook Lopez
PF-Kris Humphries
SF-Terrence Williams
SG-Keyon Dooling
PG-Devin Harris
  
There’s three ball-handlers in this lineup. TWill allegedly can board. He’s got to get minutes in this lost season.
  
Courtney Lee and CDR—your starting SF and SG have to combine for 20 points. They’re not scoring or rebounding. They’re reserves.
  
Sign Dwayne Jones from the CBA for rebounding and shot blocking and get rid of Josh Boone. Maybe sign Morris Almond, also, for his scoring.
  
The stat sheet says that “S. Williams” got a DNP. What S. Williams would that be? Haven’t the Nets waived both of them?

HAHA worst team in the HISTORY of the NBA
this pathetic team is going to break a crazy amount of records…worst start ever, most consecutive games getting outrebounded, was almost the first team in 20 years to give up 70 points in the first half 3 games in a row this year, going to win less than 9 games….HILARIOUS
how can anyone say this team has a lot of great young talent. I dont care abut the injuries, or the bad coaching, or the famous they are just young excuse, no professional team should ever go 3-37. If a new team entered the league right now and took the scraps off every team in an expansion draft they would win more than 3 games. Not a single good player, all pathetic and pad their stats in garbage time.

@ djheavyduty
The fact that Yi’s stat line reads 3-13 is actually way better from what Yi actually did today. In fact, that line is light years away from how bad Yi was. Up until 4 mins left in the game, he was 1-11fg with 1reb and 2 points

go back to China,Yi!
we are looking forward to seeing u in CBA.

yi stunk it up today…
this guy’s confidence level fluctuates like a 14 year old girl who just went through puberty….
he simply doesn’t want to play defense and he is sensitive as a pair of balls.
i’ve been a big supporter of Yi but the nets need a stud defender…
brook can’t play defense either…but yi is just horrible…at least brook positions himself right at least..even though he doesn’t do much after that…first things first

Yi is absolutely atrocious – there is no way around this. he has SOME offensive potential but he is the definition of a project. He will NEVER be an NBA-caliber defender – he is light years away from being competent on D and he will likely never be aggressive enough on offense to be anything other than an out-of position PF that can knock down an occasional jumper. Trading RJ for him was despicable and pathetic to say the very least.

Nothing new in terms of how we played today. Yi, once again will take all the blame and with today’s performance he should take some, yet he is not the entire problem! The issue is that our team forces bad shots and then gets dejected when they don’t go in and consequently lose their edge on defense on the way back down the court.

I have to say that we need to bring in a few offensive minded players, ones’ that actually have an easy time getting to the basket. May I suggest a trade with GS, sending them little used BSimmons, Courtney Lee and the Dallas 1st Rd pick for CMaggette and Stephen Curry. Both Curry and Maggette (just check out his last 20 or so games!)have no trouble lighting it up and getting to the line and it would relieve lots of pressure off of Lopez, Yi and even Harris for that matter. GS would gain some financial flexibility through the expiring of Simmons and CLee just might enjoy the open court with the Warriors and Monte Ellis.

And a question for the dwindling group of Devin supporters? How many wins do you think the Nets would have right now if Jason Kidd were on this team with the exact same roster minus Harris. I would say AT LEAST 15 – which means they would still have a high chance of winning the lottery, Brook Lopez would be playing world’s better than he is now and we would be spared the humilation of watching the worst team in the HISTORY of the league. If you added Kidd and RJ minus, Harris and Yi – the team would be battling for a playoff spot. That’s how drastic the talent level is in regards to those trades. And there is no need to even discuss Vince for Lee – that is laughable and a firable offense for all partirs involved.

I agree with Barry Popik

@Barry P.
I agree that Kiki would earn praise for experimenting with starting lineup such as you mentioned. Instead Kiki is trying the approach of “keep things the same” so players get used to the same role. ITS NOT WORKING!

Yi is not going to be a starter next year and CDR won’t be a starting SF next year, so might as well get a head start. If Wall comes, then Lee wouldn’t start either.

I would almost guarantee that with the starting lineup you give:
Lopez, Humphries, TWill, Dooling and Harris, that Nets wouldn’t have gotten Blown Out in Q1 today.

It would allow a spark off the bench with CDR and CLee and Yi would have an easier time defending their bench player.

Only problem is if Humpries and Dooling got into foul trouble. Also, who would backup Harris and Lopez?

Nets need an upgrade on Boone to backup Lopez.

Isn’t it obvious what Kiki is trying to do…

Why in the world would he leave in at the end of game when he was 1-11 and take Lopez out? Aren’t they trying to develop Lopez also?

John Wall,

Easy answer to your question regarding playing time…Lopez has played in almost every game this year, so why burn him out more. Yi has only played in 10% of the Nets games, thus why not give him more conditioning….

This is not a conspiracy guys! It makes sense.

jerry25

i don’t understand why you think your starting 5 will be better.
i actually think that’ll be a terrible starting 5..worse then what the nets are putting on the floor right now

Isaace…

Kidd would definitely have brought a presence to our team and might have meant a few more wins, yet all in all it would have been a time bomb waiting to explode. Kidd could not handle the losing and was bringing everyone down negatively. I am so happy we made that trade and would have done it all over again.

In terms of the Carter trade, you fail to realize the purpose of the trade itself. Cap Space was our priority, nothing more. I think you would have preferred to receive equal talent in return, yet guess what…it was not going to happen. Thus, if you prefer to stand in mediocrity for the next five years, then we should have kept Carter. Or…we take our lumps now and attempt to restructure into a winning team through our Cap flexibility in the future.

Take my advice NETS MGT, go out and attempt to trade for Maggette and Curry from GS. Takes away some of our Cap Space yet provide us the offense that we need. Send Simmons, LEE or CDR, and the Dallas Pick their way. We would then be able to replace DHarris if we chose to with Curry or play them alongside one another, and look to sign a max PF player in FA’s next year.

Adam
the only sense it makes is that he is partial to Yi or he needs to trade him so he needs to inflate his stats, but if you listen to every player and coach when they talk about the Nets have players they never mention Yi. Lee, yes, CDR, sometimes, Harris and Lopez always. Yi is Kiki’s little pet; if Yi does not develop Kiki loses his pride and his job. To say Yi will be a star on some other team is a joke. Just watch as the year unfolds, his stats will keep going down, especially his shooting percentage – and unless a rebound is headed right at him, it ain’t his. Humphries is a breath of fresh air. He will start soon.

Hey guys I didn’t watch the game… Humphries stats look nice. Does he deserve to start over yi?

Geo,

Let me ask you, why do you believe that Kiki needs to emphasize Yi’s play? What does Kiki have to prove? Is it that he has to support trading RJ to the Bucks for him? Do you think we should have received more for RJ?

Thanks KJV
KiKi needs to be banned from basketball for the RJ and VC trades.
What good piece have the Nets acquired since KiKi was GM?
Both trades seem like a busts.
You can shine a pile of dog poo but in the end its still dog poo.
So is KiKi making up for the bad trades by leading this team to the #1 pick?
I know Wall is off the chain but there are some other players that look really good
Wes Johnson from syracuse – on tv right now
Turner from OSU
Monroe GTown

this is absolutely heinous that a team this terrible is allowed to take the floor. i dont know what is going on behind the scenes but when your best scorers on the team (harris&cdr) have to defer to lopez and yi every single game there is going to be problems. at least lopez is consistant, yi is a nightmare. you never know what he will do. he isnt much better than sean williams at this point. humphries should be playing more minutes at the 4 than him.

If yi is starting come next season, I am no longer a Nets fan because i know they are not serious about winning.

heavy,

What did you expect to receive for RJ and VC? We were a losing team with them and had to restructure. We accomplished our goal of creating cap space and accumulating some decent complimentary players. It’s time now to make that cap space work and bring in the firepower next year if possible.

I just don’t get our fans….we think everyone is just waiting to take our garbage from us and they should hand over the keys to their house!

“Adam Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 7:21 pm

Take my advice NETS MGT, go out and attempt to trade for Maggette and Curry from GS. Takes away some of our Cap Space yet provide us the offense that we need. Send Simmons, LEE or CDR, and the Dallas Pick their way. We would then be able to replace DHarris if we chose to with Curry or play them alongside one another, and look to sign a max PF player in FA’s next year."

Maggette? Are you serious???

This season is LOST. What is the point behind your trade? I wouldn’t mind Curry but having two shoot first PGs on this roster doesn’t solve anything.

Yi shall be given the MVP award for helping not 1 but 29 teams to win!!

who they play next

at Adam:

First of all – I would have given Kidd the extension he asked for NO MATTER WHAT. He was the greatest Net in our NBA history by so far there isn’t anyone even in the discussion to compare to him. He is still an elite NBA point guard. yes his defense has waned – but Devin plays NONE so what is the difference??? Kidd eventually would have gotten over his sulking if he had gotten paid and with a slightly better supporting cast than we have now, we would be contending for a playoff spot instead of the worst record in league history!!!

If you still make that Vince trade (and yes I understand why he was dumped), you still have plenty of cap space for this summer most likely making Kidd a very happy camper by July.

What Ratner has been allowed to do since stealing this team is an outrage and it’s really beyond puzzling how some of you still come on here and defend the direction of the team since he has been in charge! It’s very cut and dry. He took a back to back NBA Finalist, stripped it down to NOTHING – intentionally!!!

Any legitimate sports league commissioner would have thrown this man out of his league three years ago – if he was ever allowed in to begin with. This is truly pathetic and so is Stern for standing by and watching in the name of greed.

Mr. Dollar,

What is your take on Maggette and why does it sound like you don’t appreciate what he brings to the table?

Only way to get a player like Curry is to be willing to take on a difficult contract such as Maggette’s. 10 million a year for Maggette is a lot (I hope you think 9 Million for Devin is lots then), yet realistically he has proven he is a consistent producer and one that would bring lots of energy and offensive force to our team. We could do much worse.

Having two shoot first PG’s on this roster is a dilemma, yet one I am willing to take on. Curry can play point and do it quite well without shooting as his priority. But regardless, tt will open a number of options our way come next year in terms of deciding where Devin stands on our team.

at Andy:

“Humphries stats look nice. Does he deserve to start over yi?”

Andy – YOU deserve to start over Yi. I’m not kidding, i’m sure you could at least make an attempt to play defense if we handed you HIS contract.

@ Adam – Why?

Isaac,

Regardless of the money, Kidd was never going to be happy in NJ going forward. Do you think we were winning with him during his last years with the NETS? What makes you think we were going to win with him going forward?

diehard,

Why what?

Kris Humphries is the real stud, he can give decent number than anyone else off the bench.

Issaac,

Do you think Ratner has made a profit since he bought the NETS? Guess what…he has not. Noone wanted to see the KIDD/RJ/VC team broken up after 2 finals appearances, yet it was evident that those three were not going to be able to get over the hump and win an NBA Championship. What does one do then? We tried to bring in Mutombo, Mourning, etc., yet nothing worked. Eventually, one says you need to wipe the slate clean and start fresh. It takes time and not every player we bring in is going to be the next MJ. Let them have some time to develop and make your conclusions then.

Isaac,

I apologize, it was not Kidd/RJ/VC, it was Kidd/RJ/Kmart.

@Adam
You’re not making sense. In 1 post you’re saying that the Nets were right to give up mediocrity in Kidd/RJ/VC to restructure into a winning team with cap space, but then you say to trade for Maggette’s 50 million dollar contract? Maggette’s just another mediocre player who will only get the Nets a few more wins, as well as eating up big cap space. And the Warrior’s would never give up Curry…he’s young w/ potential, especially not for someone much less promising in CLee.

at Adam:

Of course Vince was not there – glad you corrected. The 1st mistake was re-signing Vince in the 1st place – but even that was under Ratner’s orders since he saw him as a draw and a way to make SOME money after telling the longtime fans of the team to go away. Getting Vince to soemwhat replace Kenyon was a nice “band-aid” but after a year or two we knew it was same ‘ol Vince. Great scorer, will win you some close regular season games with big shots but a TOTAL ZERO when it came to the playoffs. He could not put us over the hump vs Miami and Cleveland and so he never should have been signed for 4 more years but again follow Ratner’s brilliant lead.

The team should have let go of Vince and re-stocked around Kidd and RJ. Boozer has probably been attainable for the last 2-3 years at the right price. Kidd-RJ-Boozer is a playoff team in the East. I will take 43 wins over THREE any day of the week, mont, year – you name it.

But I guess you enjoy watching the worst team in the HISTORY OF THE LEAGUE, so by all means, enjoy.

@ Adam – Why would you want to have 2 shoot-first, NO DEFENSE, ball-hogging point guards playing alongside each other?

Adam:

As to your question about whether Ratner has made a profit while owning the Nets. The answer is of course not – that was NEVER his intention. He planned on taking a huge loss on the team itself then sell it when it seemed his real estate deal would go through and then make billions of dollars. If his plan comes to fruition, he will be crying with joy and laughter about the hundreds of millions he lost on this team that he has destroyed both on the court and in terms of its fan base.

I am a big fan of Yi, he has basketball skills and everything, but he is mentally soft!!!
He needs a mental health doctor!!!
I think it’s better for him to go back to China!!!
Sorry Yi, but I am so disappointed at you!!!

Fire
Kiki!
Re-Hire
Frank!

Hollah!

All this losing it messing with our heads.
The Nets have had some bad seasons but this takes the cake.
I dont know if I could play basketball on this team.
I wonder if any of the players enjoy playing on this team.
Can we fast forward?

Isaac,

Kidd, RJ and Boozer would have pushed us not further than we got with Kidd, RJ and KMART. I go so far as to say we would have been worse as the rest of the league got better over that time.

Antoine,

I understand your point in terms of mediocrity. Every player on our team can’t be a star, yet we expect consistency from each.

A lineup of:

Curry
Harris
Maggette
YI (or Boozer/Bosh if they can be had in FAcy)
Lopez

Bench of:

Ist Round Draft Pick
TWILL
YI
Dooling
Humphries

This lineup is pretty enticing to me. Plus we would not have spent our entire cap, thus we have financial flexibility. We can always attempt to ship Harris of to Minn for the rights to Rubio if you want your pass firt guard.

In order for GS to achieve some cap flexibility, they will need to give up something of value. Of course Curry for Lee is not equal, yet Simmons for Maggette makes up for it in addition to the Dal 1st Pick.

Sign a new experienced coach as soon as possible.

Adam

I thought I was pretty clear: if Yi sucks (which he does) Kiki loses his job and/or his pride. He pinned a great deal on this kid – Kiki is all about finding that fallen angel – and he is losing. Remember Kiki said he is the next Dirk. Dirt more like it. I only hope he is thinking of building him up to trade, b/c you cannot win with Yi. Period. RJ is ancient history. Yes, we should have gotten more, but Yi is who Yi is, a one trick pony that other teams are wise to. When he does not shoot, he brings NOTHING else. Nothing. I think Kidd had more assists in one game this year than Yi has all year.

You people and your pipe dreams of Humphries starting is just laughable. Sure it’s good for discussion but it will NEVER happen so we might as well focus on something else. What that is I have no idea!

Geo,

Kiki is losing his job if the team continues its losing ways, regardless of Yi’s individual performance. On any day of the week, YI is better than any other current NET who is not currently starting. When and if that changes, I am sure Kiki would consider a move.

What more do you think you should have received for RJ? Is he doing so well now? Would you want him back….how about RJ for YI now?

I just looked at some of the things Chris Douglas-Roberts has been saying on Twitter lately and have come to the conclusion that he needs to be traded NOW before the team becomes any worse than it already is.

It’s time to get a real coach. Was this Thorns way of getting rid of Kiki? I don’t think he’s getting his old job back.

you all will be back on yi’s jock when he scores 20 empty points next game.

also you know a team stinks when humphries scores 20 plus

Yi is THE MAN. he’s developing nicely just on schedule as planned.

We have learned something. Yi is a 4th quarter player. Someone the Nets can count on late in the game. He outdueled Novak down the stretch.

I’d probably take RJ over Yi. RJ’s production might be down this year, but obviously because he’s a 4th option on that team…to have him be on the Nets and be the 1st/2nd option I’m sure he’d be producing nicely.

I know somebody has to get the blame. So at first it was Frank and smallball, then it was becuase of injuries. Then it was Devin sucked. Now it’s all on Yi. I don’t know if you guys notice but the Nets just suck regardless of who’s playing and who’s coaching. They just need to scrap it and start over…

Yi is really suck. But can someone ask why? He was good when he came back from his injury. And after the UNTOUCHABLE Lopes’ open talk about YI’s affecting his play, YI started to be suck.

Congratuation to the UNTOUCHABLE guy again, all-star data in the worst team. Does he really care about winning or just care about his data?

Congratuation to Nets who will build around Lopes. You will continue to be the worst team with a selfish guy.

The problem with Yi is that the more he plays, the worse he gets. Sit him for a week and a half and he’ll come back and score 25. Keep playing him and his shooting percentage will keep dropping.

at Adam:

“how about RJ for YI now?”

Sign me up – IMMEDIATELY. Maybe then we could avoid the ultimate embarrassment of becoming the worst team in league history.

Nets got old schooled!!!

i hate this situation

Nets suck!!!

This situation the nets are in can be blamed on coaching and front office policy alone. The young guys (Yi, Lee, CDr, and twill)should be playing limited minutes to develop.Instead they are given too many minutes and too many of them together. A mix of some young and some veterans(Hassell, Dooling, Hayes, Battie, Simmons and Boone) would have produced more wins, given young guys time to develop without being discouraged,and shown some value for trading some contracts.Also the older guys have some clue on defending.So far Yi, CDR,Lee and Lopez for that matter are incapable of defending.Saying Kiki is a bad coach is giving him way too much credit,and how long ago did Dell pass away.

@What to do. Question: what did lopez say exactly (its lopez not lopes)? Cause all i heard was that he was adjusting to the situation. Yi is still getting a huge amount of touches. so because he is missing badly that’s lopez’s fault, and lopez is a selfish player? how many assists does YI average in a game?

Nets looked really solid tonight, they’ve set out to be the league doormats and are accomplishing it on every level. This team has become a THORN IN MY SIDE. Why do I even bother reading or watching?

I found some stats that show the worst team in the league almost never gets the first draft choice, how depressing.
But not as depressing as Yi’s defense. He frequently just loses his man, and his man ends up at the rim. AND with him being 1 for 134 yesterday from the field, it all added up to his worst game since he returned from injury. THE HUMPH is going get a consistent 25 minutes a game for the rest of the year. I think THE HUMPH is going to turn out to be a nice addition to the team, and maybe it means we will never have to see Boone or Hassell or Battie again, I hope.

I agree with Shawn Carter. Double Hollah!

Adam,

First of all…the season is over…unless you are bringing in a legitimate superstar, which Maggette is not, why are you going to commit a ton of cash towards a dude that, in all honesty, brings the same things that CDR will probably bring to the table within a year or so? Maggette is a score first, do nothing else guy making 10x more than the guy you want to trade out that will basically do the same thing?

and to quote another source:

 ⇒First off, Maggette is injury prone. He’s been in the league nine seasons and has played 70 or more games just four times in his career. Maggette’s body says Iron Man; his stats say Tin Man.

⇒Maggette is a great sub, the kind of aggressive scorer you love coming off the bench. He has a shoot first mentality and is a mediocre defender at best. In other words, as a sixth man he’s great, as a starter he’s not.

⇒Maggette has made it clear he wants to start and be a primary offensive option. But he’s the type of high-maintenance player who doesn’t make teammates better. In fact, because he doesn’t create much, there tends to be a lot of standing around when he’s got the ball on the perimeter.

⇒Maggette has never played for a winner. His teams have missed the playoffs in eight of the nine seasons he’s been in the league. The one year a Maggette team made the playoffs was in 2006, when the Clippers made it to the postseason. That year Maggette played 32 games.

This team is done for right now. Why trade for a guy like this?

And on another note, the logic of putting two shoot first PGs in the backcourt is just…insane. If the Nets are going to trade young players out, it should have a purpose behind it.

I agree with supreme, you realize you can’t blame everything on one guy right? It’s all yi’s fault? The same way it was all frank’s fault? And remind me, were we winning when yi was out? No! It was the exact same thing! Everyone deserves the blame for our miseries because kiki can’t coach, not a single player is playing defense, and not a single soul is rotating properly or boxing out. Have you seen the videos at netsarescorching? Countless times shooters find themselves wise open with all the time in the world to shoot because no one closes out. Or if a man gets beat off the dribble, no one’s ever behind him to help out. Or if they do help out, there’s 3 or 4 guys contesting one shot, which gives the opponents an easy offensive rebound. Just no communication and chemistry together. These guys are not friends with each other except with who’s in their clique. Contrast that to the thunder or spurs or even the knicks who go out together to get dinner or what.

Kiki IS management!! Kiki is there to be polite at press conferences and say the proper customer service answers. This isn’t Kiki’s fault, he is an interim coach that is an extension of management, and he is waiting until the end of the season just like the rest of us I guarantee!

There are no fixes for this team this year, have to wait it out and hope the draft and new ownership make things much better – and it can’t get any worse really. Trades won’t help, x’s and o’s won’t help.

This is a bad team, this team is broken. Frank wouldn’t have made it any better, Phil Jackson wouldn’t – nothing would now.

Next year will be better.

worst team everrrrr…… lost 26 in a row to the west. Nets are doing this in one of the weakest conferences the NBA has seen this decade. The record the Sixers set was in an 8 team conference and had to play the 70s knicks and celtics teams repeatedly which were great. They are also breaking records left and right, outrebounded for the longest stretch ever, one of the worst defenses, worst start ever, give up 70 pts by halftime like its their job. I find it hilarious that some fans are picking on one little thing like thats the reason the team is struggling. The whole team is just pathetic and most of these “young talents” wouldn’t see the floor on good teams.

40 games in the three wins have come against the Bobcats, Bulls and Knicks hahaha, in the west they would be 1-39.

After reading the stats board, I really dont know what to comment on the Nets or Yi, Yi brought me hope since the return from injury, but for the recent few games, i must say that Yi just played badly, very badly. My piece of advice for Yi: first, be more open-minded, dont force yourself to go under the backet regardless of the situation, when you have open shot, dont hesitate; secondly, buff your defensive skill!

and Devin Harris, was this guy the all-star player last year? i cant believe it?

I just don’t understand why Portland (with frontcourt injuries) won’t take Josh Boone and Tony Battie for a draft pick and Patty Mills (their second round point guard pick).
    
Yi, CDR, and Lee will be OK off the bench and had better get used to it. Yes, start Humphries. Why not? My other suggestion of Twill, again, why not? My third suggestion of Dooling is because he’s a more experienced player than Lee is and also a better passer. Dooling is always a threat to hit a three.
  
Dwayne Jones (D-league’s top rebounder) and Patty Mills replace Josh Boone and Tony Battie, who both won’t be missed.

Trading RJ for Yi was one of the absolute best moves we’ve done recently. Look at what the Bucks got for him. The same the Spurs will get once they trade him too. Absolutely nothing.

Nobody will give up anything for a overpaid wannabe star like RJ, whom, by some reason I still fail to understand, is considered as an allstar caliber player by some of my fellow Nets fans.

And that’s the reason why I think Yi gets so much hate here: he’s the guy they traded some fans’ pet for.

Yi is a legit prospect. He didn’t play well yesterday, but he’s playing well overall. Putting all the blame on him is absolutely laughable.

As for starting Humphries- I love the guy, but I think he’s perfect for his sub role. It’s just 3 games, Yi has had better games and some here still refused to give him any credit. I will be fine if Yi is our starting PF next year as long as we add more depth and useful bodies for our big men rotation. I hope we land Greg Monroe in the draft w/ the Mavs pick (moving up if necessary) and Tyrus Thomas in free agency.

Our starters are fading fast as the losses mount up. I honestly don’t think any of them are that bad, its just mentally getting to them all. They have all had a stand out game at some point (at least earlier on – even Lee) but now it appears that the energy and will is draining out game after game. I can’t see us winning another game at this rate.

Put any one of them in a differnt team and watch them come back to life. Humph has been a great addition but after another 30 odd losses I’m sure he too will start to decline.

I’m not saying that they would still be starters at other team (my guess is that only 1 or 2 might) but they would play better. None of them have any confidence left anymore. Its like a desease – and it seems to attack the players ability to shoot first, followed by disorientation preventing them for knowing where their own basket is.

I don’t blame any one player, it is a collective responsibility. The real question is how was it allowed to get this bad?

Mr. Dollar,

I think we both can agree that this Season is lost and any trades that I’d like to see are ones that I believe are going to benefit the NETS in future seasons.

You keep commented that why we would trade to have to shoot first guards. May I ask you what we have now? My belief is that Curry can become a pass first guard and when needed can drill the three when the inside guys get double teamed and they pass the ball out. Harris would prefer to be shoot first and while smallish, may be quick enough to play the 2. If not, he is the one you look to deal away in the offseason for other value (Rubio, etc)

Great points about Maggette. He has not been on a winner yet I do not believe his play is the cause of it. In CDR’s lifetime, he will never be as efficient as Maggette has been and mark my words, in two to three years, CDR will want more than 10 Million a year. You state that Maggette has this albatross contract, yet all I see is three years at 30 million for a guy that efficiently produces 20, 6 and 2 on every given night. I do not see that as being too much money to spend given that scoring and getting to the line is one of our major weaknesses. It would allow our other team members to hold off forcing their shots and focus more on the defensive end.

The only that Yi can bring is money from China, and I am wondering how much did kiki get?

Yi stinks. I can defend better than he. Every player does drive right around him and lays up a shot at the rim. I would prefer Kris Humphries to start. Atleast, we could see rebounding, defense and hustle. That wins games more than an occasional jump shot.

people, yi only 19 years old, give him time.

Yi would be better suited off the bench for occasional offense.

It’s amazing this Nets team has a defensive blind spot RIGHT UNDER THE BASKET!

Adam —

Why on earth would the Warriors make that trade?

And why would Minnesota want Harris? It was a foregone conclusion on draft day that either Flynn or Rubio would be moved at some point, so trading for Harris doesn’t exactly make sense for them. Furthermore, Harris isn’t suited for the triangle.

@Andres
Absolutely incorrect. That Bucks team that RJ was traded to was awful, and made even worse by the fact that BOTH Redd and Bogut were out for the majority of the season. The fact that RJ was able to carry that Bucks team to 34 wins (same as VC/DH’s Nets) was phenomenal.

RJ>Yi anyday, at least for several more years.

When you look at the record we have and subscribe to the notion that defense wins then it’s easy to figure out what is wrong with us and how to fix it. Yi and CDR are our best starting forwards and both can’t play D cuz they are not physical enough at their positions. Throw in our defenseless backup center (whoever it is at the moment) and imo that’s 80% of the problem. We have no answers defensively at the forwards and backup center. So if you want to write about, it’s not all Yi’s fault, how good or bad the Yi for RJ trade was, what we got for VC or whether Maggette might help, imo it’s like talking about if the shinny new wheels on the race car are going to make it win. It’s all irrelevant. We need 3 or 4 good big defensive players. Trades and picks are the way to go short term. Other than LeBron I don’t see any FA making us a title contender. I would keep the cap space until somebody better than Bosh or Boozer is avaiable and that is going to take time. We drafted K-Mart and traded for Kidd with Thorn at the helm. It worked then and it will work now and just as fast.
2010
c- Lopez
PF-Vanardo (trade Dallas pick &/or player to move up)
SF-FA, pick (our first round if not 1st overall) or trade
SG-Lee/CDR
PG-Wall or Harris
If we get Wall and can’t trade or get a FA for our SF, hopefully we will improve enough along with a Brooklyn move to entice Melo for 2011 as our SF.

Without buying out Dooling, Nets still have 21.3 million in cap space. Enough to get All-Star DLee as our PF/backup C. and another nice FA.

Yi could still earn time as backup PF, but with addition of Humphries, that may be tough.
Humphries has already proven to be more valuable than Yi in the eyes of Nets fans (and is probably slightly younger too). Humphries was never given the opportunity to play as Yi has been.

If Nets were fortunate to land DLee as a FA and draft a quality PF, then Yi could be dealt in offseason, although I don’t think he would bring back much (Andres may argue otherwise).

Bottom line is that with the Steal of the Year in Humphries, Yi becomes an unnecessary option for next year.

Netsdaily… are you actually WATCHING these games? I need to know.

jerry,

Humphries is a good bench player, I like him. We fleeced Cuban again, no question about it. Thank you Cuban (again, LOL).

Now, how has Humphries proved to be more valuable than Yi? LOL. 3 good games from him wont make Yi expendable. Yi averaged 20 and 7 over his first 7 games after coming back from his injury and people still refused to give him any credit. Now Hump puts up worse numbers than Yi’s in 3 BLOWOUTS and you people want to believe that will make Yi expendable. Give me a break. And no, Humphries aint younger than Yi. You people seriously need to cut the crap. You take anything (even that bull about his age) to hate on him. It’s ridiculous and it makes it really hard to take some people’s opinion seriously.

But again, I love Humphries, great addition to our team, he’s still young and is the kind of player we need off the bench. We should look to make more deals with the Mavs, lol

As for adding more big men depth: just say NO to David Lee. He’ll command at least $12M per, which he obviously aint worth by any stretch of the imagination. From what a source close to the Nets already told Ford in an article Ford wrote recently, you can easily assume the Nets aint thrilled at all about the possibility of having to overpay guys like Lee, Gay or Boozer.

And if the Nets land a PF with their lotto pick, I doubt they’ll spend the big bucks on another big man. Anyways, I really hope we dont draft another big with our lotto pick: this year’s two best players are perimeter players: Wall and Turner. I actually believe we need a perimeter superstar more than a stud big man.

But i hope we get another talented big man with the Mavs pick, combine it with our nd rounder or other of the additional picks we’ll have in the next 3 years and move up to nab Greg Monroe. Then sign a defensive minded big like Tyrus Thomas and we could have a really nice group of young big men going forward:

PF: Yi/Thomas
C: Lopez/Monroe/Hump

Smack Adam,

“Why on earth would the Warriors make that trade?”

Not saying they would jump at it, yet they would give serious consideration to it in order to achieve financial flexibility. If Curry is unattainable, I would easily accept replacing him with Randolph.

Most people here project DHarris as a PG. I see him as a tweener who just might be able to play the 2. Minnesota would consider trading Rubio in a deal for Harris as it would add a valuable piece to their team, one which they could look to move themselves down the road for additional pieces.

You know what? I’m gonna say it! Humphries game really reminds of DLee.

Poor mans DLEE! And had for Najeras contract!!!

@Jerry: I think I like DLee more then many other PF options available next year in FA (not hot on Boozer or Bosh). BUT, I like even more the prospect of finding a more special PF in the draft, which should be loaded with ‘em. Not that I watch college ball (I hardly get to watch NBA ball – 7 hours time difference) but I prefer homegrown players, and if the draft is loaded at PF…we should try and get one, maybe trade down with both our picks. This would let us fill other holes in FA hopefully with players who won’t eat too much cap.

I agree that at this point we have to switch things up a bit. I like Barry’s idea above -

Harris
Dooling
TWill
Humphries
Lopez

as the starting five. You get a better shooter out there in Dooling, better rebounders in TWill and Humphries. You tell TWill to drive to the hoop and create for others, only shoot a jumper if the shot clock is running down. Yi, Lee, and CDR can come off the bench for the scoring punch. Yi has regressed recently and his rebounding has been worse than at any time as a Net. He needs to know he needs to be much more surly, like he was when he first returned from his injury. Tough time to be a Net fan right now.

@me
There is no automatic standout PF in draft. There are some projects (Favors/Cousins) who could be another Amare, that could take 1-2 years and some players (Aldich) who could develop into a DLee.

Everyone who watches Kentucky knows that Wall is the only “sure thing” All-Star via draft and he should produce like a DWade or Chris Paul in his first year.

But if you want a “sure thing” then just get DLee in early July. Since he can play backup Center, that leaves more room for flexibility of developing another PF or PF/SF type via draft.

@Chris
I see no problem with at least experimenting with TWill as a starter (if his head doesn’t get swollen), but am comfortable with Humphries and Dooling off the bench, but give them big minutes.

If TWill does well, then Hayes might be used for a trade along with Boone (since no takers for Battie at this time).
Hayes is slated to be dropped anyway.

Preface by saying I didnt see game yesterday.

Lets not get carried away about Humphrey. It is only 1 game and was he a factor at the rim defensively?
  
Earth to Kiki: In case you haven’t noticed, this aint going so good. Maybe, just maybe, you might want to try some some different lineups, combination or positions.

Is Harris part of the problem or part of the solution?

@Nets Income. Nothing to say about Yi? The light wasn’t on yesterday I guess.

Even if they get Lebron and Wall next year, the Nets will still suck if they continue to give YI plenty of minutes.

This dude thinks of dribbling in traffic everytime he gets the ball and everytime he commits a mistake he has this DUMBO look !!!

@Tim

“The Nets wont always be bad…. dont be a fair weather fan.”

‘Fans’ always go with the winner. How can losers have fans???

‘friend’ and ‘fan’ will never be the same.

I just came back from China and talked to the locals about Yi. Consensus there says he’s really 37 years old. I saw his birth certificate and he was born in 1973.

Simple oversight by Kiki and company!

I have a trade idea. How about Omri Casspi for Chris Quinn?

@ Mark

Just bought some of the good stuff from Shawne Williams eh?

We would have more wins if we played defense better. Defense requires team commitment and practice. The coach needs to motivate the team to play defense and train them in the defensive schemes. Nets look like a team on strike. Hard to watch them get beat again and again on defense. It wasn’t like that 10 games ago. This stuff is bad for general team morale. I fear it can hurt the long term careers of these guys, especially the young players. We got enuff to win some games, but we’ll never win like this. And now it’s a big media story, gathering momentum. Teams don’t want to lose to the nets.

Some players are playing hard – Devin flying into the stands for loose balls, Humpher, etc. So many historically good shooters are missing open shots – Dev, Yi, Lee.

OW Ow Ow OW OW OW!!!

Yi and Simmons have no trade value whatsoever.
The Nets gave Jefferson away for nothing.

You could move Lee and/or CDR with Boone and some other pieces. That’s about it. Can’t trade Harris or Lopez.

The Nets management have basically committed suicide with the Jefferson and Carter trades. They have no options but to get two free agents or have a great draft. That’s right – two free agents. Because this team is so bad that no quality player will come alone.

The Knicks will never let David Lee go – which is probably the case with most of the free agents: their current teams will find a way to keep them.

Money alone can rarely fix a mess of this magnitude. This is a textbook case of how NOT to manage an NBA franchise.

The best part of Kiki’s interview was when the Chinese reporter asked Kiki about her perception that there was “no coordination between Lopez and Yi”. Kiki became very defensive and told her he “disagreed” and they are but not “consistent”. That could have been the best defensive moment by anyone on the team all year.