Is Yi the Next Bargnani?

So what if Yi turns into Bargnani..
The Raptors are soft because of Bargnani
I still want Yi traded to Toronto for Bosh

I think the Nets should sign a power forward in the FA. Yi is a nice back up power forward. Bargnani seem to have a quick release shot which I think will only get better.

Bargnani is a NBA starter.
Yi is a 6th man.

Keep Yi… but only as a backup… until he obtains more defensive awareness.

though for now, his offensive improvements are great already and hope this can keep up.

Yeah, “soft”…a convenient word which means whatever people want it to mean and is often used as a pejorative. If you had had the courtesy to read the story, you would realize that by one of the key measures of “hardness”—free throw attempts—Yi goes to the line a lot more than Bargnani.

And Bosh?? Mr. Softee?? Chris Bosh, who after Jason Collins hammered the hell out of him in his first playoff game, complained that the refs weren’t calling fouls the way they did in the regular season? That Chris Bosh? As Sam Mitchell said when asked about Bosh’s comments, “Chris really said that?”

@Seeker
And a year ago, AGAIN as the article states, he was considered a bust who was seen as a sixth man.

Really, Net Income? Are you really serious about Yi? The only reason why his numbers are decent is because our genious coach has decided to showcase him every game and give him the ball every other time down the court. In the mean time, we are losing every game by more than 20.

The only thing i like about Yi’s game is his free throw shooting. Which is the main reason why he posts decent point totals. Yi sucks. He is slow, can’t pass, can’t defend, is a poor rebounder, has a very low bball IQ, and is SOFT. Dave D had an article a few weeks back about what NBA scouts think of Yi, and all of them had negative things to say.

The experiment should be over. Lets please go after a legit Power Forward. If they feel Yi will help marketing and bring them money from China, then fine, let him be a backup.

The same NBA scouts all ranked Yi as lottery pick. Last season, the Frank built the entire team (with Vince) around Harris and failed to make playoffs. I didn’t have a problem with that, not a lot of people did.

What is soft in basketball? Unlikely to go to prison?

Thorn tried to get Big Baby over the summer. Big Baby treated Yi like a rag doll the other day. We would be much better off with Big Baby…and its not even close.

@pawley, woulda shoulda coulda. Why stop at Big Baby, there were rumors with Yi for Amare and Yi for Boozer. Yi was out with an injury, Nets failed to produce a win and Frank got fired.

Also, I didn’t know this team was called New Jersey Yi. I guess the kid is a superstar, people can’t stop talking about this guy. Doesn’t even have to rape anyone or bring guns to the game. Yi is the worse PF in the league, yet other teams will trade their superstar PF for Yi. hmmm.

Son, I hear there are a lot of “hard” players in prison.

Yi kind of reminds me of Van Horn. He has his moments but for the most part you pull out your hair wondering when they are going to take charge and not just be there. I feel like Yi’s personality like Van Horn isn’t the type to take charge. More take it when its given to them.
Once the whole “can Yi and Brooke cohexist” thing happened it seems Yi has been more passive again. Just getting back to what he had been doing.

I feel like if they forced the ball into him more and he was given more chances to carry the load he could be pretty solid. But I don’t think it’s going to happen just like it never did for van horn because they lack that killer instinct.

Why is it still “showcasing” when the player in question is averaging 16 and 7 and is our second leading scorer? Maybe he’s not being played big minutes because they want to showcase him, but because he’s actually a decent player?

If he played defense, I might like him more. I’d be extremely disappointed if Yi turned out to be Bargnani.

I’d love to see him and Devin get shipped out. Anyone who either plays terrible defense or shows no intention of trying on defense should be gone, for that matter.

A joint progress of not less than Bageyani last season’s performance, but it is undeniable that, he needs to do a good job defensively, did not like Bageyani. If he also realized the tough defensive end, then this season could be described as “Yi’s year”

Many of you guys are making big statements without solid proof to back them up.
Yi isnt a starter? Fact is he is starting for new jersey nets and has a +8.4 pts difference when he’s on the court - the second best on this team. The first place was taken by Dooling but he played limited minutes.

According to 82games.com He’s simple rating is +0.5, ranked 3rd on this team. The first two are Dooling(9.7)and Lopez(1.1)

Here’s a link to detailed stats of Yi, he’s nothing short of a solid contributor to this team, unlike many of you guys claimed, he’s ranked second overall when it comes to point difference.
http://www.82games.com/0910/09NJN12.HTM#5man

Stats dont lie, Yi’s impact is definitely positive, its just the team is too bad, one man can only do so much…same goes for Brook lopez.

I understand the frustration, we all hate losing, but this is the learning curve our young players have to go through.

Peace

Just for your information, Yi’s number of FT/game is currently 4th in NBA among all PF. Soft? A vague term used to describe any one you don’t like. Gasol is considered to be soft. And so are a lot of other players and they are paid millions. Eat your heart out, ‘soft’-haters. At the same time, how about our toughest player – Swat? Oh, I am sorry, he is out of a job now. If you want to see all tough guys playing, turn to NFL. Just don’t watch the kickers.
@ pawley
We lost by 20 because the team, ‘soft’ and ‘tough’ players together, couldn’t play defense and didn’t play as a team. If Yi was hitting under 40%, what you said might be of some value. He didn’t. He was hitting over 50% in the first 5 games. He has been hitting at a lower % lately but still managed about 8 FTA a game, which he hit 82%. On a lousy 3-36 team with a bunch of young inexperienced players, that’s not too bad. What do you expect, Garnett or Amare? By the way, Amare couldn’t defend too well either.

I agree with ChrisGNetfan. Yi doesn’t have the personality to take charge. Maybe that’s the cultural factor that’s been talked about. He was playing like a bull after injuries. Then came the grumbling from B Lo. It did seem to take an effect and he has been taking a lot more jump shots lately. He can be much better if he is given the load. We saw him playing poorly for one quarter or two and then came out blasting in the third. But the nets are always in too deep a hole that no single player can change the outcome(losing). Not even Micheal Jordan could reverse a 20 point deficit every game. If Yi develops into another Andre B., that’s fine. He can bring a whole lot more money to the team and his teammates than the Italian. Every Rocket has some Chinese shoe endorsement deal, except Yao. I suspect that a sizable amount of Devin’s allstar votes last year came from the 1.3 billion Chinese. When we have some one like that, why won’t we keep him, let alone he is the 2nd highest scorer on the team and he is always working his best. There’a nothing to lose and so much to gain.

If he gains an ounce of defensive skill and overall basketball IQ, Yi could be a force every single night.

i still think yi is a 3, like bargnani

Bargnani plays from 3 to 5. He is mostly 5 this year.

“poor defenders”
“the Nets make a lot more money off Yi’s connection to China”

That’s why he sucks at the PF position and we play him. Why is Yi a poor defender cuz he is weak and for those of you who have a b-ball IQ similar to Yi that means SOFT.

Do you folks really like Bargnani? I don’t really know him, but of what I have seen, he is not a complete NBA player. Does he play defense? Does he make his team mates better? We should all hope, and Yi should be trying to be DIRK, that THE role model for him. I like some of what I have seen so far from Yi, but I want to be patient. Let’s hope he stays healthy the rest of the year, and averages 15-8, gets a couple of assists, goes strong to the rim and shoots a good percentage and shows at least some effort on the defensive end. For Yi, this is still a learning experience, he is still very much a work in progress.

This team is bad due to our 2 and 3 are too weak and we need a real coach.

Big deal Yi,puts up some numbers during garbage time against some 3rd stringers. When I see how badly first teamers abuse him, thus seeing how far he has to go to be a legit starter on a WINNING team and the fact he is @25 means he is not the answer.

@Mr.Big

So a weak player(with poor B-ball IQ, which you insinuated) from another country is making millions in the U.S. I assume that’s more than you, who have excellent b-ball IQ and I, who have no chance playing professionally, make. What a great country this is. In Yi’s case. It’s ok with me. But for you, eat your heart out!

Bosh softer than Yi?
No way!
Bosh is a perimeter PF but still stronger than Yi.
At least Bosh knows where to be on D.
Soft of Not. Yi is lost on weakside D.
Remember the VC reverse lay up to win the game?
Bosh made a big 3 to tie the game.
Bosh is big Game Yi is big Lame

Well, at least we are not comparing him to Dirk anymore. I caution fans. This is a very small light going on in a very small window. His numbers this month are way down, particularly his shooting percentage. I forsee continual shrinkage as defenses figure out his limited game and as his legs get heavier. Going to the line is promising, but he should not be given that kind of contract as he is not or should not be a starter. He pads his stats b/c of Kiki and b/c of extended garbage time. he has not made teamates better. I think Humphries brings more of what we need. He creates second chances constantly and distupts. Face it, if we sink lots of money into Yi, it is a message that we are not going after the brass ring.

We’re going after the ring? Yi’s numbers are down? Who has low BBIQ?

Stats showed he is amongst LEAGUE leaders in FT attempts and is one of the only Nets with positive overall +/-

Oh right, because it’s Kiki’s fault.

Yi isn’t the next Nowitzki, Bargnani, or anyone else.
Yi is Yi and frankly – he sucks.
Never mind the number of times he gets to the line and all the misleading statistics – just watch him play.
He’s a project that could take years to develop if ever.
By the time this season is over – he will have about the same productivity as last year.

If the Nets tried to trade him for Bargnani – the Raptors would laugh at them.

I was not a big fan of Yi last year. Over the summer he made big strides in his game mostly on the offensive side. I think his biggest problem is communication. I’ve watched him in interviews and read some of his interviews. So it must be tough on the young kid to really understand what the coach’s and trainers are telling him. I believe this language barrier has improved this year, but he still has a way to go.

I am impressed with his development over the summer and maybe next year he will focus more on the defensive side. Last year i didn’t see him as a nba player while this year i do see his potential. Since this is a wasted year anyway and i don’t care about wins for the nets, it is however a perfect situation for Yi to improve his game. Kiki as coach is a good and bad thing for Yi. Good because Yi will get touches and minutes. Bad because i don’t think Kiki is a good coach and is clueless about defense. I hope the nets big man coach’s are better at it.

This is the kind of year the nets can afford to develop their younger players and truly evaluate them. I believe Yi has improved over this season and will continue to do so. If the nets were in a position to make the playoffs the young players would not get this very important experience. So far Yi is defying the odds of being a bust. Let him to continue to develop.

Alos, I don’t think there is any kind of problem between him and Brook playing at the same time. This is a very young team who is learning how to play the nba game all at the same time. You can’t expect many wins, but you can expect improvement from the players and team over the course of the season.

It will take three years to recover from this year’s debacle. Let Yi take his foul shots and sell his jerseys for the next three years, making $$$$ for the Nets while we rebuild. In 2013 we can send him to Dallas to replace the aging Dirk, then acquire a real 4.

Yi has improved over the boo-bird’s delight he was last year, due to hard work and in spite of an obvious lack of guidance. He’s not so painful to watch now (as long as we ignore his “defense,” just like his opponents do).

To those who say “statistics don’t lie” I refer against to Mikki Moore, the greatest percentage scorer in Nets history (and, incidentally, whom I miss a great deal)

He is not painful to watch as long as we ignore his defense? That’s half the game. So is he only half painful to watch? I experience no pain watching Harris and Lopez (well a little when Lop forces shots with 3 guys on him), why should I experience so much pain with Yi? Oh, it’s b/c he is starting… and players are rushing by him and over him and through him….

That’s the problem with the “comment guidelines”. When the foreign posters make a comment it suggests that they lose their credibility when they don’t write English well. They might have valid points but just don’t express it well. Imo my b-ball knowledge is much better than my ability to write.

@ Russ

I only care about our record. The fact that Big time sucks but makes a lot of money is good for him. Sorry to burst your bubble. If you read closely you will understand I was writing about how much money the Nets make not Big time.

@ Geo

“He is not painful to watch as long as we ignore his defense? That’s half the game.”

That’s at least 75% of the game and imo thats why you can’t read a box score and see points and rebounds to determine who played well. Defense is not in a box score under player stats.

@ feizo

I think the argument is that Yi belongs as a sixth man on a good team, which we hope to be really soon. On a 3 win team, sure he’s a starter.

And of course the Raptors are not a very good team. Even if Yi became Bargnani statistically, I would still let him go. He is not the right kind of player at the 4. The Nets need someone more physical and aggressive there.

People, remember we’re talking about the NETS. if we go to fantasy mode, I will put Jesus as our FP and he will score 200 pts and grab 40 rebounds.

Nets are a bad team with no owner and no home no coach. What the F do you expect? The refs can take a dump on the Nets and we got no way of stopping it.

Summary, no one cares about NETS, the team is a joke, the biggest joke in the NBA. Until we get the ownership finalized.

@halwas
So what are the misleading stats?

@Robby
82games.com shows more than…way more than just shooting percentage. Oh yes, it shows your defense efficiency as well.

@Mr.big
Defense is on 82games.com.

So the rest of the Nets job this year is to develop Yi cause we already know what Brook can do? Geeze, the rest of this season will be painful to watch. My bet is Yi doesn’t develop as advertised…

now we are talking about a yong PF who is in a only 3 wins team and had played a realy decent statistics.
i don’t any kind of think about that any single person can change the circumstance personally, what if Both here could be better?
whatever it s all been like this, let’s give the coaches and players some more freedoms, and await for where the miracle happens next year.

If Yi keeps putting up numbers, who knows, maybe the Nets would look to package him in a deal. I mean, the Nets have so many redundant scorer

First thing’s first, bulk him up a bit.