The Nets just get more interesting by the day. Somehow they find a way to keep you watching.

Maybe CDR will feel better having his ex-teammate around.

Maybe Shawne learns his lesson and tows the line.

I guess I will just have to keep watching to find out.

N-E-TS- “We know drama”

I wonder if all that talk about cutting Shawne immediately, was a smoke screen all long. to keep Dallas from charging us more?

Every rose has it’s Thorn…

@Mike
Like watching a train wreck. He certainly is talented…and troubled…and a Williams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENw_P83fyf4

the requisite highlight reel to make you think it’s worth the gamble…and as that great NBA GM Bob Dylan once said, “Aint got nothin’, ain’t got nothin’ to lose”.

When are the Nets going to stop taking in Williamses?

Haven’t kept me watching?

But it’s all good.

i dont know why i had a “?” in there

That’s because you have no appreciation for the deeply absurd.

Funny, this morning I was thinking about comparing Sean and Shawne’s troubled pasts, but said, Nah, he’s going to be gone by the end of the day.

I wonder what number he will wear????

The Nets are paying his salary and can cut him anytime they want.

I want to know what CDR thinks of all this.

Maybe CDR can “coach” him and keep him out of trouble.

He sure looks like a tough customer, something even the “bad boy” Nets lacked.

Can Marvin Williams be next?

WONT he cut into twills minutes? they are both swings and about the same size. this is strange.

This is a smoke screen. We dont need another swing man. The guy isnt going to last here. We need to play Twill not this guy.

Just finished watching the clip on Shawne and what impressed me most is that he never misses a shot.

He’s Sean Williams with talent.

A little pep talk with kiki and “Williams” would be alright. And yes I think Thorn just has an obsession with the name Williams.

Now the requisite hard life video…complete with Calipari endorsement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGmlaZW2EyU&NR=1

Am I getting cynical? OH NO. NOT ME, I’M A NET FAN.

T-Will posted on his tweet that he likes john walls game and doesn’t think he suck.. just thought id mention it :P

thats why they are called highlights because it show the highlighted portion of his career now if some one make a lowlights lol portion id watch that

A 6’9" swingman might be starting at SF with CDR at SG.

These are the Nets and anything can and will happen. LMAO

maybe we slide cdr over to sg , bench c.lee, put 4swill,and yi with lopez and see what happens

dh
cdr
4swill
yi, maybe even humphries in place of yi
lopez

This is also a move to push TWill as well. If Shawne is hungry and takes advatage of his opportunities…

TWill=DNP Coach’s Descision

Maybe Humphries was the smoke screen, and the Nets wanted Shawne all along.

Maybe CDR sold them on Shawne.

Maybe I need another drink…

They’ll probably make him wear# 51 so they can give him Sean’s jerseys, and save even more money$$$$$$ cha-ching!

Hey NI, what’s the rap sheet on Shawne… Major felonies, shoot outs with cops, drugs, rape, murder… more importantly, ever convicted???

And can he play???

Well, I hope it all works out for him, the Nets, etc.

CDR could indeed play a key role in this…an added responsibility. (Of course, we have no idea what their relationship is.)

NETS All Williams/Trouble Team

Marcus Williams PG
Terrance Williams SG
Jayson Williams C
Sean Williams PF
Shawne Williams SF

No more Williams’s!!!

Unless you think Rod Thorn has totally lost his mind, which is possible, this might turn out to be very interesting…

I just hope he doesn’t talk CDR into robbing the local 7-11.

As long as we are paying him, why not? I suggest sending him to the Developmental league to get conditioned and playing time. If he chooses not to go…..void his contract!

NETS All Williams/NON-Trouble Team

Eric Williams – SF
Buck Williams – PF
Aaron Williams – C
Ray Williams – SG
John Williams(on) – PG

i suppose it doesnt hurt to take a look at the guy, nothing to lose really but at the end of the day he is a Williams so im not holding my breath!

Read Dave D’s piece…just posted.

Nets were interested in Dorrel Wright, but after trading TE to Mavs for SHWilliams, not possible…unless something else transpires.

Also Dave’s list of transgressions by Shawne outshines those of Sean.

Shawne’s career stats are actually slightly better than Humphries, but not really because he played in only 15 games in 5 seasons! What’s wit dat?

The Nets probably have a shrink on retainer so what the heck.

I just looked up Ray Williams to figure out if he was a PG or a SG – and, dang, he scored 20+ PPG with 6+ AST for the Nets in 1982. We have a really good All-Williams (NON-trouble) team!

After reading Dave’s D. piece, I like this guy even more.

A true “bad boy”…

T-Will will look like an alter boy compared to this scary dude.

Why would Thorn want him on the team if he can’t play a lick?

Is Dave D. just trying to be entertaining???

Wow, Humphries dad owns 2 five guys burger joints. He gets a pass in my book.

John its probably because you are looking at his pre-season averages bro.

“only 15 games in 5 seasons” – never mind, 15 games last season.

After reading Dave D., methinks this is a short term commitment…something to do with something else.

Why would you want this guy in your locker room? I think Thorn knows something about what the results will be of his physical. CDR has enough to worry about on the court, so to be made Nanny to this guy is just crazy and I don’t believe it. Maybe we are putting together the “all gangsta team?”

Again, there is nothing wrong with taking a long look at him. He is 6’9, can put the ball on the floor and is a decent shooter. Maybe reuniting with CDR will reignite his passion for the game.

CDR needs some motivation as he is not playing what I would call stellar basketball as of late. I am coming to the conclusion that CDR is nothing more than an 6th or 7th man on a good team.

@Paul Erstein;

  Failed drug test, suspension, void contract?

  Do you think Mr. Rod “nice guy” Thorn would ever pull a play like this? LMAO

Lets see if Shawne “how I love you” Williams even shows up!

Void contract???

Does anyone know the rules of trading a player you just traded for? I had thought there needed to be a significant time gap before you could trade a newly acquired player.

@Chris2
You can trade him in a one-on-one at anytime…but can’t trade him in a multiple PLAYER deal for 60 days.

Trade Keyon Dooling now as a number of teams are looking for veteran point guards. I recognize he is playing well, yet let’s put the pressure back on Devin to produce as we expect him to. Quinn can back him up and hit the open shot when needed.

Ideally, if we can obtain a first rounder for Keyon, that would be sweet!

Send Jarvis Hayes to Minnesota for a second round pick.

His draft preview:

“Strengths: Has tremendous versatility, at 6-8 Shawne can play from the 1-thru-4 positions … Extremely long with a 7-3 wingspan … Advanced offensive game, really understands how to play … Great one on one skills offensively … Great vision, passing skills … Good ball handler, almost second nature … Can create for himself or others off the dribble drive … Consistent jump shot, with range out to three point … A highlight reel waiting to happen … Extremely long wingspan makes him a terrific rebounder and shot blocker … Good competitor, doesn’t back down from a challenge, as he showed squaring off with Adam Morrison after being pushed … His body is not far from being NBA ready …

Weaknesses: Low-release point on his jumper could cause problems at the next level … Will need to develop better defensive technique, more intensity … Quickness is very good, but won’t stand out on the next level … Still must add strength and conditioning "

Sounds just like T-Will but 4" taller, and can shoot.

What were the Nets thinking drafting T-Will at #11?

Sean will truly be missed by a lot of us – it is s hame we didn’t have a real coaching staff while he was here to try and teach him the disicpline he desperately needs. I really hope Dallas gives him a look and that Jason Kidd starts to mold him into the player he is capable of being. With a great coach in Rick Carlisle there too, this could truly be the right spot for him.

“Talented player, good size, good all-around player”
“Maybe it was us. Now we’ll find out,” said Thorn

Either he’s B.S.ing us, or he believes…

Isaac, Sean isn’t going to Dallas. The chances he plays in the NBA again are slim.

Aside from our young core of Brook, Devin, Yi, TWill, CDR and Lee – we may have an entirely new roster within the month.

And of that list – I have a feeling only Brook, Yi and CDR are untouchable at the moment.

Devin would make sense for Toronto – if they were going to deal Bosh…..but we would really have to pray that we get the top pick in draft. Because if not – we are really in trouble next year.

@Ryan243
As has been reported several times by several people, the only untouchables are Yi, Lopez and Harris. CDR is NOT untouchable and considering how reasonable his contract is, he is very likely to be dealt in a big trade. He is very valuable in relation to his contract.

Isaac: I know you won’t change your view. I rooted for Sean Williams too. But you have to face facts. This is not a child. He is a grown-up who they gave millions to. Why would he Nets not do what they could? The ultimate responsibility lies with the individual. The onus was on him and he made a conscious decision to take the money and not run. Dime a dozen. He’s done.

About Shawne Williams:
Net Income: After reading Dave D., methinks this is a short term commitment…something to do with something else.

I agree. He is not even allowed to be with the Mavs. If you can’t behave in NBA player heaven – then well you just don’t care about being a contributor to an NBA team. I also don’t think he is a positive contributor to society. Unfortunately I think he is one of those guys who is wrapped up in being a hard-ass thug from the streets and can’t balance that nonsense with responsibly. He’s already got his millions and he’s done.. Check out the lame video about the "Shawne Williams story" – can you believe the nonsense hype with no back-up.

Another nut job joins the circus.

And as far as I’m concerned no one is untouchable on a team with a 3 and 34 record.

And now that they are going to start digging around in Ratner’s dirty laundry – you can bet they’re going to find all kinds of goodies. One good scandal could delay Brooklyn for years to come. Which would relegate the Nets to a continued limbo status (read: RED INK) for the duration.

Jus think, a really messy scandal might give the Russian cold feet.

wrong again.

if Ratner gets in trouble, which I doubt is going to happen anytime soon IF at all, he will simply sell the remainder of the team and arena to Prokhorov.

If the Nets trade cdr i am done with them. seriously i will go back to rooting for the Spurs.

Plz tell me CDR is staying on htis team, Net Income. He’s such a good young player with a small salary and an amazing skill set. I’d rather keep CDR then trade him for Bosh!!!

Nets get: Bosh
Toronto gets: boone, harris, hassell, some protected 1st rounder
Toronto loses out significantly in this trade in terms of talent and woulld’t accept such a deal. I would like moving Yi to the bench with Lee and strenghning the bench. Then maybe we dont get outscored by so much off the bench!

The Nets would be insane to deal a guy like CDR with an 800k salary next season. He may have the most reasonable contract in the NBA. I agree it could happen, but that will be a move to come back and haunt the Nets

the nets don’t have enough talent to disregard anybody. hopefully he’s learned a lesson and will do what the coaches ask. he’s got to be better than twill.

“Net Income Says:

Also Dave’s list of transgressions by Shawne outshines those of Sean."

Yeah. This kid makes Sean look like a model citizen in comparison.

I don’t want this guy anywhere near the locker room. Thorn must be smoking dust

13yr old

You would really rather keep CDR than have Chris Bosh, a legitimate all-star PF?

mattsimo

Bosh isoverrated in my opinion and i think next year CDR isconsidered one of the best SGs in the league.
Yes, i refuse to give up CDRs want to win and potential for an overrated PF. and also, compaere the slaries

I would try desperately to not include CDR in any deal – even for Bosh. I would rather deal Lee than include CDR. I would rather deal a pick than CDR. He is going to be a very very good player – particularly as a 6th man in the future for us if these moves play out. Regardless of the stars you have in your starting 5 – you need that scoring option off the bench as your 6th man. That is why Ben Gordon got such a big deal.

Ryan243,

If u read my comments u will see our opinions are very similar. Keep Douglas Roberts cuz he has more potential than Lopez and how can u agrue with that salary?! Some ppl say he talks to much but he speaks louder with play. I agree, give up Lee if u have too but under no circumstances give up CDR. He shud be an untouchable on this team!

@ Ryan243

I agree, keep CDR. We should have used him more last year as well.

What would Toronto do with Harris, Calderon, Jack and Banks due to make a grand total of 25+ million next season?

Accordingly, I could see Jarret Jack coming over with Bosh.
Harris, Yi, Boone, Terrence Williams and a 5 million dollar collection of draft picks for Chris Bosh and Jarret Jack.

Hedo, Yi and Bargnani playing that front line together could really be interesting.

I think you all need to end you love fest with CDR. I agree that his current salary should preclude us from considering trading him, yet you need to admit that he is simply one dimensional. Scoring is his niche, yet players like him in the league are a dime a dozen. He does not bring any other strengths to the table. Does he rebound? Does he get assists? Does he play good defense? Does he make his teammates better? Can he carry a team?

at net Income:

Do you really believe Ratner and his new buddy “Proky” are clean? Neither one of them has any business owning any part of this team. There needs to be full investigations on them and then we’ll see what would happen.

“If the Nets trade cdr i am done with them.”

Me too. Talking about including CDR in a trade is insane.

Gee – it must be great being an insider like Net Income.
Knows what the Russian is going to do under any hypothetical situation.
An expert on everything Nets – wired in with all the right connections.

Or just another Internet blogger with nothing better to do than spend his days researching the Nets. And getting paid squat for his efforts.

@halwas hahahahaha! U see he said CDR is NOT untouchable? Well guess what..I can’t tell..they’ve refused 2 trade him numerous times already! What will it take? He’s underpaid and seems 2 be stuck in a hard place with this team..MORE talented than a lot of their “featured” players but LESS appreciated..trading him will be another bonehead move for this organization…but if it happens…Cheers!

@Adam players like CDR aren’t a dime a dozen…and YES he rebounds great 4 a GUARD! Does C Lee rebound? YES CDR gets assists..who can finish? Can CDR carry a team? YES he carries THIS team at the start of each game until its time 2 feed Yi.. Can he make players better? YES This team NEEDS the fiery spirit that he brings..just ask Keyon.. Can he play Defense? YES Just ask Melo after a 6pt 1st half or ANY SF that he guards while giving up 2-3inches and 20-30lbs everynite! He’s out of position..SIT C Lee who has a decent game once every 2months..Adam u should end ur hate affair with CDR

I just love reading posts by the 13yearold diehard nets fan. Classic infantile homerism at its best. Its cool – it puts the fun back into this.

It’s OK that the Nets want to look at the new S. Williams. I don’t expect him to stick, because I donlt think he wants to look at them. Make that read: He doesn’t give an F.

Why is Bosh being mentioned in some posts above? Crazy talk.

CDR is at best a one dimensional role player who would be on the deep end of a bench on any good NBA team.

“johnny Says:

January 12th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
CDR is at best a one dimensional role player who would be on the deep end of a bench on any good NBA team."
CDR’s current season stats would suggest that the statement above is misinformed and unfounded.

Per NBA.com, CDR’s current performance stats/rankings:

1. among all sophomore Forwards
2. among all sophomore players, for All positions
3. among ALL NBA players, with an .851 ft%
       +13.64 efficiency rtg

Per game averages:
15.5 ppg; 4.40 rpg; 1.9 ast pg

Pretty good overall stats for a 2nd year player and they still belie CDR’s passion for the game and winning.

Even with the current offensive focus shifting away from CDR (which drops his stats and IMO undermines his career), you can’t objectively support calling CDR a “one dimensional player”.

I have no doubt that CDR would be a greatly valued young member of any number of other good NBA teams. As a long time CDR fan, I would love for him to have the chance to prove my point.

Johnny start WATCHING games instead of reading these fans posts about CDR..he's REALLY good.. Jeff's right.. look the kid’s numbers..u have 2 put your personal grudge aside..He’s the truth..w8 and see

I like CDR… but lets be serious… if we could ever trade for a “go to” ALLSTAR big like Crhis Bosh we have to pull the trade..

CDR has a nice attitude, but it hasnt won us any games… I saw someone post that he is one of the better SG’s in the NBA… Yeah okay… His stats are inflated by how horrible our team is at scoring. We are Last in almost EVERY offensive stat. Of course Chris is going to average around 12-16 points. We have no scorers on the team… He really needs to develop some defense and a reliable outside shot before he is someone you think of as UNTOUCHABLE.

After reading this think it over before you respond.

We are supposed to be discussing S. Williams, not CDR (who isn’t going anywhere).

I like Adam’s idea of sending S. Williams to the DLeague to prove himself and get in shape. NBA has to move to dedicated DLeague teams that serve their NBA sponsor.

I assume Nets didn’t buy him out because (besides chance that he might be really good in a new environment) he could be used as part of a trade before Feb. 19. Why not take a chance that some other team would be forced to pay his remaining salary? Proky and Thorn aren’t stupid.

I wonder if there is a waiting period before S. Williams can be traded?