Goldstein: 'I'm Not Going Anywhere...Ratner Could Go Behind Bars'

Are these guys clowns or what? They was a very convincing speech Daniel. I can’t wait for this guy to get the eviction’s note and see him walking out of his apartment with his head down in shame. That is going to be a great day for the people of Brooklyn.

Its hard to imagine with this much money at stake there isn’t any corruption going, whether its Yonkers or Brooklyn. He has a right to stand up for the citizens of Brooklyn—-let him do his thing.

and Goldstein’s shenanigans begin again……

@ brian…. and no he doesnt have the right to stand up for the citizens of Brooklyn… he has the right to stand up for himself… but nobody elected him spokesperson of Brooklyn.. and Yes I DO live in Brooklyn and i’m Damn proud

the citizens of brooklyn want this deal to happen , they ALL wanna see the nets come play in BK , take this from someone who lived his whole life in bk and a fan of the nets, so if you dont live around here , dont speak for us !

For sure I want to see development done over the Vanderbilt rail yards.

I don’t want to subsidize an over-sized, eminent-domain abusing development that would never fly if it had to depend on private capital.

There’s no market for a monster development containing either office space and/or condos.

The arena is acknowledged to be a money-loser and committing taxpayer money for it is irresponsible.

And since state and federal funds are to be used to prop up this mess, I’d say there are people far from Brooklyn who have a valid reason to speak up.

Was this before or after his 6th beer?

@geo – Excellent point. Are these guys to be taken seriously sitting on a bar stool with their drunk rants? I have been very respectful but it is time for the eviction notice and the guys should move to Jersey to root for the new D-league team.

How dare Daniel Goldstein continue to fight for his home and against eminent domain. Can’t he see how much this project is going to help Ratner and his billionaire buddies out? Ratner is the greatest hero BK has ever had. This project has always been about what is best for BK and the people of NY…lol

That BK arena is so desperetly needed, Nets need it, Ratner needs it, NY needs it…heck America needs it…heheh

@ GEO

lol

Good job Daniel! Keep fighting, brother! I hate Brooklyn! Keep up the good work and hopefully a miracle will happen and this whole BK garbage will fall apart.

I was glad to attend that toast yesterday. If anyone wants to know if the attendance there was big it was. As a matter of fact, people were in just about every booth and chair and even standing almost to the brim of the bar. They even had some posters protesting on tearing down Freddy’s with one in English and another in Russian. Donald O’Finn, the manager of Freddy’s, even mentioned to bars especially in the UK to boycott Barclay’s Bank. Even though I didn’t have any beer, I actually don’t drink any alcohol, I still had a good time there yesterday.

Let’s go Daniel – Keep on Fighting!!! You are a true hero.

at BRs1:

“the citizens of brooklyn want this deal to happen”

Actually BR – very few do. I lived there most of my life, including very recently and NOBODY cared. All the Knicks fans I knew plannned to remain Knicks fans – they think the Nets moving there is a total joke.

This guy is a jerk. The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few, or the one. I hope someone takes pictures of him being dragged away. He had his day in court, and lost, again and again.

Isaac do you know all 2.5 million people in Brooklyn, or only a handful of people you call friends?

I’m going to guess the latter.

…..sigh…

What is that some of you here have against Goldstein anyway? Did he steal who would have been your wife? Did you want that apartment and now want the building he lives in demolished because none of you got it? Did he refuse to let you be his roomate? Did he give you bad tasting lemonade* and make you drink it? Honestly, some could say similar things to any of you if it was your property and you wanted to defend it, so don’t do something to others that you don’t want to be done on you.

(*)= Don’t ask me what that is, because you feel better of if I didn’t tell you what it was.

It doesn’t matter. Forcefully or peacefully, Goldstein will be removed.

at smartnetsfan:

“Isaac do you know all 2.5 million people in Brooklyn, or only a handful of people you call friends? "

I never claimed to know everyone in Brooklyn. But unlike Net Income, who has given us this one supposed survey saying 60 percent of Brooklyn supports the project, I don’t throw numbers around. I can only go by who I know, and I will tell you I know a lot of Knicks fans from Brooklyn – NONE of them plan on switching their allegiance to the Nets and why should they? The Nets have been a big joke them all this time, now they are supposed to become fans and abandon their team? That would make no sense.

I love DGoldstein: b/c of his delays, we got the Russian’s money and got rid of the Rat! Love You DGold, even if you are a little bit High Maintanence.

i hope goldstein wins

@Isaac
Just ONCE, could you offer some facts instead of your opinion. The fact that you lived there once doesnt give you an ounce of credibility on what public opinion is on the subject.

Just ONCE, really…facts, not spin. Citations, numbers, etc.

PS Ratner is out of this game…but the critics find it convenient to attack him. It’s just dumb…but not surprising.

@Yao
there is some truth in what you say…if Ratner had gone ahead in 2006, like he planned, he would be bankrupt right now, instead of close to being bankrupt. He would have been finishing up AY as the economy collapsed.

lol @ Yao

@ Isaac

How big is your sample size, 20, 30 people?

Enough already

I am still waiting for evidence where Goldstein or anyone else who opposes this plan has wanted the rail yards to be left undeveloped, and it has to come from their own mouthes, not from someone who claims it. I also want to know where 1,500 construction jobs over the course of 10 years is equal to 15,000 construction jobs, because Oder already disprooved that numerous times. Another proof I would like to see is where the affordable housing in Ratner’s plan is really affordable as in what the government defines it as by being for the low incomes when a study from his own numbers have shown that several of the lowest income groups won’t even be part of it while the highest accounts for 2/3 of it. BTW, please proove where the traffic will only be residual when in fact the location is about 20 blocks from either the exit to Atlantic or Flatbush Avenues from the BQE? Finally, proove where the number of jobs promised will actually be promised to locals that won’t be just temporary or minium wage. Of course I know you supporters have a history of dodging these questions because you probably don’t have the proof or that it disagrees with you so you won’t answer it.

at NetLogic:

it’s not enough already actually. I am still waiting for some REAL surveys to be conducted to really get a pulse for interest in this team. The Nets didn’t do it because a) they didn’t care as long as the rela estate gets built and b) they didn’t want to hear that this was Knicks country and no one really wanted them invading their territory.

The two questions that I want asked of AS MANY NYC residents (Brooklyn + the other four boroughs) are:

1. Do you support Atlantic Yards being built – even if it means 200-300 million dollars may be needed from tax payers to complete it?

2. Which NBA team will you support if the Nets move to Brooklyn? a) The Knicks b) The Nets c) A different NBA team d) not interested in the NBA

I would like to see the results of THAT POLL from about 10,000 NYC residents throughout the five boroughs. I think the Brooklyn supporters on here either know deep down what the results would be or simply, like the Nets themselves don’t want to admit it.

This is so silly…“the Nets themselves don’t want to admit it”.

So youre saying that the Nets and one of the world’s richest men are making decisions based on…What? They have done no marketing surveys? No polling on their own? They’re committing HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS based on NOTHING? Is that what you’re saying?

No data, no evidence, just more and more spin.

at Net Income:

You are clearly missing the point here. You know darn well, Ratner didn;t buy the team with the idea that :“hey, I bet I could make the Nets a successful basketball team with a great fan base if I could just move the tram to Brooklyn!”

Come on man – please admit he bought the team with the idea that the Nets would be “a pawn” in his overall plan to make billions of dollars based on REAL ESTATE which just happened to have a sports arena as its center piece. To make this reality, he needed a SPORTS TEAM and someone tipped him off to the Nets as being in a vulnerable position for him to swoop in on.

Whether the Nets do or do not have a strong fan base should they move to Brooklyn is iirelevant to him!!! Proky may care because he is seemingly a sports enthusiast, but he was not anywhere near being in the picture when the team decided it was going to try and make this move!!!

So once again, what I say is not “spin” nor is it untrue. You are once again refusing to fess up to the fact that Ratner could care less about this team or its fans, they are just being used so that he and his friends could go from being beyond rich to unimaginably rich – and I and other Nets fans are supposed to be excited by this???

Ratner is irrelevant at this point. The Nets are Proky’s team. The last trade and Thorn’s comments indicate the Nets are open for business.

And I cannot wait for the pictures of DG being removed from his property. He has zero chance of winning and everyone realizes it except him. He has really become a poor soul.

@Isaac

Yeah, I’m excited about the project, because if the Nets move to Brooklyn they’ll have more money and have a better chance at attracting free agents. Or do you think LeBron just REALLY REALLY REALLY wants to play at Izod? He must be so excited about that!

David, Ratner will still be owning the majority of the project, so it still belongs to him.