Wade Not Interested in Nets, but Raves about Harris and the Future

I love this part from the article…and I don’t think Wade is just being nice to help out the an NBA organization. I think a lot of players are looking at NJ the same way. I’m so damn sick of the lack of support NJ shows the Nets and Devils… more-so the Nets of course. But I love that Wade said this stuff:

“It’s a good organization,” Wade said of New Jersey. “It’s a class organization and when the time is right, they’re going to go get the players they need to get. I think people around the league see that. They’ve had success, especially when J. Kidd was here . . . so everyone knows this organization has the want to be great. It’s just about if they get the players. They’ve got some now. Devin Harris is a great, great star. He’s a centerpiece.”

There’s a problem for the Knicks: the roster. Both the Nets and Knicks will have $20-plus million to spend. But the Nets have Harris, Brook Lopez and Courtney Lee, all young studs, already in place.

“Guys know they (Nets) will be in the mix because they’re setting themselves up to be there,” Wade said. “It’s not a bad city. There’s going to be some chatter about the Nets when they come around. I know the main chatter right now is about the other side, New York, but I’m sure the Nets are going to get some love as well.”

Yeah – yeah. The Nets are such a great organization – but I don’t want anything to do with them. Look at what he does not what he says.

The Nets may have $20 million to spend – but they don’t HAVE $20 million.

And there is no way they’ll be in Brooklyn by 2010 – its a physical impossibility. So the big free agent they are hypothetically going to sign will be playing at the (empty) Izod center for at least 1 year.

Keep dreaming.

One has to separate the organization (read: management) from ownership. Wade likes the fact that Thorn and Kiki are running things from a personnel perspective, but if I were him, I wouldn’t want to play for Ratner! He said players do what’s best for themselves and their families, and that’s the bottom line.

Once this ownership dilemma is resolved and the Nets move to the Rock, many high-caliber free agents will begin to notice the Nets again, as they did earlier this decade, despite playing in the Meadowlands…

This is the ‘right’ answer from Wade. Basically saying thanks, but no thanks. This is actually the way a superstar is suopposed to answer questions about a bad/upcoming team.

LOL. If he really thought this organization was that great, he would consider joining the Nets, something he’s admitted he isn’t interested in.

We ain’t landing any superstar next summer, get real people.

Might be time to re-think the Boozer trade scenario. Ah! Who knows, maybe just getting a top five pick is where we should go. Who knows? Atleast, we can stop dreaming of a Wade and Lebron duo!

Not that I wouldn’t want him on my team but if C. Lee can grows into a 14-16 ppg 3 reb and 4 dimes this season then I would then think we wouldn’t need Wade and we can go for someone else. Like at the Forward position.

Wade was just being nice. He really knows that ownership doesn’t care and no superstar is going to want to touch this mess with a 20 ft pole

Its one thing to be an optimist but you’re fooling yourself if you take these comments for anything more than political correctness

Wade is not allowed to say, even if he wanted, what team he would like to play with. He can mention staying with his own team but is forbidden to talk about going to another team. He knows the rules. I take his comments about the Nets as a positive.

Some of you make me laugh. Would ever Wade say that he’s going to the Nets when he’s still a Heat player?

To me, the way he talked, it looks like INDEED, he IS interested in the NETS.

D Wade was answering a reporter’s question, and giving a diplomatic answer. Drawing any conclusion from it whatsoever would be a mistake. Players decide what they are going to do when the time come to decide. In the meantime they give diplomatic answers and don’t tip their hand and do whatever is necessary to keep their market value high. If you read this and say “keep dreaming” you are the one reading too much into it.

“To me, the way he talked, it looks like INDEED, he IS interested in the NETS.”

LMAO. I guess you believe that because you’re naive enough to believe he really thinks the Nets are that great of an organization.

Funny thing is, he says he isn’t interested in the Nets and Knicks, but when they asked him if he could go home and join the Bulls, he says “it’s going to be a big year around the sport and I think the players in it are going to make the best decisions for them and their families”.

Keep dreaming.

Whatever, I’ll settle for some good words about my favorite team. The past couple years has been a nightmare for all of my teams so I take some positivity for once.

@JT
And you know this how? What level of expertise or experience permits you to make such a conclusion? What knowledge do you have of Wade? And don’t give us some line about it being logical. It isn’t. It’s subjective masquerading as some higher knowledge.

 You havent read the article closely either. He said he’s not interested but others might be. How is that related to his being diplomatic in anticipation of a possible free agent signing.

This attitude is the reason why Nets fans have such a bad reputation around the league. Any positive comment by ANYONE must be discounted or dismissed. It’s GD tiresome.

@Net Income
“This attitude is the reason why Nets fans have such a bad reputation around the league. Any positive comment by ANYONE must be discounted or dismissed. It’s GD tiresome.”
I find it funny you said this, cause a couple of days ago, Kiki praised Sean, saying he showed great improvement, that he was very very impressive, focusing and learning a lot, and all you had to comment was this:

“read what Kiki said about Sean Williams in Vegas…he showed up on time. talk about damning with faint praise.”

Look, you don’t have to get mad at people who are not homers. I’m a die hard fan, but that doesn’t make me see things through rose colored glasses.

ahhh again the bitter new jersey residents are steaming… go figure… a compliment frm wade…and still bitterness … its actually funny

we have centerpieces….. nuff said

Andrés Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

@Net Income
"This attitude is the reason why Nets fans have such a bad reputation around the league. Any positive comment by ANYONE must be discounted or dismissed. It’s GD tiresome."

I find it funny you said this, cause a couple of days ago, Kiki praised Sean, saying he showed great improvement, that he was very very impressive, focusing and learning a lot, and all you had to comment was this:

"read what Kiki said about Sean Williams in Vegas…he showed up on time. talk about damning with faint praise.""

LOL. As soon as I read that nonsense I thought about the same thing. This is the same guy that has always put a negative spin on things when talking about not only Sean Williams, who he has called all kinds of nasty names, but Chris Douglas Roberts and Terrence Williams as well.

Hey NetIncome…open mouth, insert foot

Only a few teams can/will end up with Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Amare. What are the other 25+ teams going to do? Quit? The Nets should proceed as planned, and if they do get a great player, fine. Otherwise we continue on with building with what we got. Alot of these posters would just buy a NBA Championship team if they could. They remind me of Yankee management and fan mentality the last 10 years. “Lets just buy all the great players and win now”. I would rather build a team and see what happens. Crying over what FA we can get or not get is not my idea of having a good time. If a FA does not want to come to NJ, screw them.

I totally agree with Dollarbill!
If NI’s think the realistically negative attitude is what caused the league-wide bad reputation of our fanbase, shouldn’t it logically mean that our reputation would automatically fly high if we become collectively and delusionally optimistic? Our optimism has absolutely nothing to do with the media perception of the fans.
There are plenty of disgrunted fans bitching about their franchises that are currently considered as contenders.

I’d have to say I agree with those optimistic about Wade. I’ve always thought we had a better shot at wade than you-know-who, but that’s besides the point. He had some very respectful comments about our franchise, not just regarding our current players, but also in reference to the area we play in and our recent history. That’s alot more credit than most “NBA experts” are giving us (see Hollinger, John).

Technically Wade cannot comment on where he’d like to play in the future, plus it would vilify him in miami if he did. He’s convinced we’ll get SOMEONE so maybe that’s his way of hinting at his interest. Either way, with interviews like this, you have to read between the lines.

@ NetIncome

“This attitude is the reason why Nets fans have such a bad reputation around the league. Any positive comment by ANYONE must be discounted or dismissed. It’s GD tiresome.”

you misinterpreted my post entirely… it was not intended to be a negative comment at all. It was inspired by the negative comments I keep reading. Wade answers a question about the Nets and everyone wants to argue about whether he’s coming here or not. I’m saying that his comments don’t tell us anything either way.

I think you saw my comment as saying “if he’s saying anything good about the Nets he doesn’t really mean it becuase he’s being diplomatic” but that wasn’t my point at all. I have no reason to doubt what he’s saying, but also don’t feel it makes sense to draw any conclusions at this point.

for what it’s worth I agree with you 100% on the above quote. It is GD tiresome, and you’ll never find me making those type of remarks.

Too many people forget how this organization was ran before Thorn. It was a joke. For anyone not to see that Thorn has done the most he can within the poor financial situation the team is in. And honestly, find me a GM who’s working for a team and has done a better job of accumulating good young talent, building a solid core, and rebuilding on the fly. If you asked me, just two years ago when we still had VC, Kidd, and RJ, that this team would be able to have this type of young talent once these 3 were gone, I wouldn’t believe it for a minute. I’d think we’d have young players, in which maybe one had good potential, but we have 3 in Brook, Devin, and Lee, not to mention a strong possibility with TWill.

I’m just as aggravated as any Nets fan. But you know what, it can be worse…go look at the Knicks!! LOL.

I see no reason he would leave south beach for the knicks, at least with the nets he has Devin Harris and Brook Lopez

This is off topic, so apologies. But the site administrators didn’t see fit to include a link to this interview which NetsDaily readers may find of interest:

NETS ARE SCORCHING INTERVIEW – DEVELOP DON’T DESTROY BROOKLYN

http://netsarescorching.com/2009/08/13/nets-are-scorching-interview-develop-dont-destroy-brooklyn/

Wow, I actually disagree w/ NI…

JT is right on this one. Wade is not going to say he wants to go anywhere, period. Do I have actual proof or do I know for sure that this is the case, no, but that doesn’t mean it’s hogwash.

Why would Wade hint towards wanting to leave when his goal is to recruit other stars to Miami? It does not matter what any player says until after this season is done, then it becomes relevant.

If Lebron is not in Cleveland, would Shaq or any of the other good to grate players have moved there? Don’t tell me that Clevelend is a better place than NJ.

All it takes is one superstar to be convinced to go to NJ and the rest will follow. That is IF the Nets can convince Bron Bron.

It’s irrelevant what Wade wants or says. Unless we get new ownership WE’RE BROKE! The only way we can get talent at his level is through the draft. So brace yourself for 15-20 wins, hope for luck with ping-pong balls and pray that our savior is available when we pick in 2010. The odds of it turning out any other way are the same as Net Income becoming president of the Swat fan club.

I love how the fans that are realistic about what’s going on are painted as negative

I see we have a lot of people on here who like being lied to.

Yeah I went back to read what JT said that got Mr. Income all bent..and it was definely misunderstood. JT statement was all about being levelheaded – what a novel concept. Besides, that whole tiresome rant about Nets fans is also getting tiresome itself.. What do expect with kids and sports and the Nets and their great history? LOL and yes I ma a fan who roots my arse off. Been following the Nets for more than 25 years.

Hey Net Income, if half of the posts in this thread have already confined this team to the cellar, that must mean that the other half of the people posting have a better outlook on things.

It’s a glass have empty/half full type of deal. If you focus solely on the negativity on the internet you will drive yourself crazy.

I mean look at Youtube. You could post something about teddy bears and dozens of teenage kids will respond with the most racist, bigoted and offensive nonsense you’ve ever seen.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, don’t let the racist teenagers ruin your teddy bear video, man.

I’m with you NI. the negativity is tiresome. especially when it always has to be packaged with a self-superior, smug dig at the more optimistic fans. As if hoping for good things for your team makes you a naive chump. it’s ALL speculation until we see what happens, so there is nothing more ‘realistic’ about one outlook over the other. And just because you hope for a good outcome doesn’t mean you don’t understand the possibility for the alternative.

“Net Income Says:
August 14th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

Find a negative, embrace it…the Nets fans’ way."

This includes you, right?

And you score zero points with your constant, tired bashing of the fanbase

Let’s face it. People around th league aren’t saying this about Charlotte, Memphis or Minnesota.

It is still unbelievable to me that a team with an all star point and a soon to be all star Center is considered the bottom of the barrell in the NBA.

If you look at Cleveland without LBJ the Nets have a much more promising situation. They will undoubtedly get a major name…no way Bosh, Amare, Wade, JJ, and so many others walk from the money offered to them, and we will have the money to make such deals. Patience NETS fans we a re less than a year from an NBA championship contending team

@ JT

You know what I find tiresome is the assumption that all fans have an understanding. All fans have hope otherwise they’re not fans but an understanding, I don’t think so. Here’s an example; Opie for COY. Yi turned the corner or played well against the worst teams in the league so he has shown promise or he’s tired. I figure by the 10th game Yi is going to be looking for India and Australia on the schedule. Maybe the reason Nets fans don’t get any respect is cuz their lack of understanding. At least when Knick fans saw a garbage coach when they had one, they voiced their displeasure. If you don’t know the problem you can’t fix it and I got news for you, we got a problem.

What a bunch of BS about this everything is speculation , so nothing is more realistic. What kind of logic is that?
All the expectations regarding NBA teams are based on real observations and the predictive power of statistics. Do not rely on some kind of middle-school reasoning when your optimistic argument is obvious weak. There is a real difference between the prediction that the Nets will struggle to win 30 games and that they will be good playoff team which is desirable for FAs. It’s not like blah blah blah “nothing happen yet, so one guess is as good as another”. Yeah, nothing happen yet, but predicting Nate Robinson will will the MVP is not the SAME as Dwight HOward winning it. Well-informed realistic predictions are founded on real evidence leading up to this point.
This is the kind of reasoning that sickens the fans who’re realists.

TBH, I think there will be enough things to watch out for this season. It definitely won’t be boring that’s for sure. I’ve resigned to the fact that this season is most likely a wash and if Ratner doesn’t pony up the cash, we’ll be cash strapped til brooklyn. all things considered, NI, the signs should be telling us that we won’t be signing any big names, even IF one or two of the big’uns wants to sign on.

The only thing I don’t like is the booing, but I believe everyone’s entitled to their own opinion when they critique the team. heck, i used to get sick when i used to watch butch beard’s Nets. what a mess that team was.

If you’re tired of negativity, then don’t respond. you’re just fueling the fire and upsetting yourself more. pre-thorn net fans hope to see something promising. the fact that i got to see back-to-back finals teams in my lifetime was truly a gift from god in my eyes.

now that we’re back to the old days, just gotta keep digging and hope we get better.

@biggie — yeah you are right about that I guess. I don’t think anyone really disagrees with the Nets target of about 30 wins this season. But when people say “LeBron isn’t coming here, people who think so are living in a dreamworld,” why do they have to add that second part? Nobody will know until the time comes for things to happen. If people just state their opinion without insulting everyone else, that would be fine.

better 4 us cause that would move lee to the bench n benching him will slow his development. the players that i want or wish we can get will be rudy gay and chris bosh. imagine that devin along with lee, gay, bosh, and lopez comon it has championship all over it

to b perfectly honest i have a feeling that lebron n wade will play 2gether in Miami. if you look at Miami teams salaries they aren’t committed to any1 all players are either on their last year or have a team option other than wade that has a player option. if lebron goes to Miami along with their players in their rookie contracts and sign sum scrubs to play with them they can pretty much take over the league at will.

Some fans are negative, some fans are positive..etc etc. They are people after all – its how it goes. What’s all the fuss? – please. Like JT said, voice your view, get off other’s cases.

My gut (doens’t mean much -so chill) is that Wade or Lebron won’t be on the Nets. Add Bosh and Stoudamire to that list. That’s just a guess. If that’s negativity -fine. Why that bothers anybody is beyond me. I just envision that those dudes have other plans and they will have plenty of choices and $$$$. I would love any of those guys – just a guess. I think they have a shot a Boozer and another good player maybe. That to me would round out a good team depending on how Lee, CDR, TWill and Yi pan out.

I have put aside the 20 win predictions. For fun, I choose to be wildly optimisttic about next year, hoping that Harris and Lopez are All-Stars and that Lee, CDR, TWill and Yi put it together with Dooling and Hayes as well, and that S. Wiliams somehow turns into an energy/enforcer big off the bench. What do you think?? Actually don’t tell me I’m havng too much fun fantasizing.

Let’s be real, folks. Since Thorn has taken over this has been a classy organization. The draft of Jefferson, Collins, and Scalabrine and the trade of Kidd put us on the NBA map. Everyone knows that Thorn will bring this franchise back: he’s too good and too competetive not to. This is just part of the cycle of the NBA: the Celtics will go through it when KG, Pierce, and Allen start to fall apart. Sacramento was real good for years; now they are trying to rebuild it. Portlandt has rebuilt it as has Orlando, etc. etc. Few organizations can stay on top forever without some luck: San Antonio landing Duncan cause Robinson was hurt, etc. Remember: these free agents grew up watching Kidd transform the Nets into a contender and they loved his running style. They are smart enough to know what Thorn is doing and they see that Harris is a star and Lee may be one, so they know he’s making smart moves. Nets are in great shape to move forward: but this year is going to be real hard b/c Thron is sticking to the plan and not getting suckered into a quick fix. Lebron? Personally, I can’t stand his arrogance and his lack of loyalty. I like Wade so much more b/c he stands up and says he’s loyal and will stay. I just hope Harris (who LFrank has built this team around) and Brook and Lee begin to feel the same as Wade.

@ Joe: I agree with u 100%.

And I agree with Rocket Scientist as well – NO ONE here can forsee the future. Why don’t we hope for the best and just watch this young team grow? Don’t get all p/o’d about it… just watch and see what happens… who knows – we might get pleasantly surprised. And as for DW or LBJ – if it happens, it happens. All i know is that i have been a nets fan ever since i was a little kid way back in the early 90’s and no matter what i will probably watch them. And I like Brook, CLee, Devo, and to be honest, I’m kinda pumped to see what Yi is gonna do. Maybe he has a breakout 17,10 season. Wouldn’t that be nice?!!? What u guys think?

I am all for hoping for the best, but it’s not the right approach to present all these dream scenarios in which you name like a fantasy team. Theoretically, every team has a chance to land FA’s. If Randolph’s contract could be moved, so did a lot of big contracts that other teams are carrying right now. Statistically, then, the Nets’ chance of landing either of Lebron or Wade or Bosh or whoever is less than 50%. So, it’s not simply a 50/50 coin flip of YES oR NO (HE"s not coming).
We cannot simply justify an optimistic “GREAT PLAN” based on future potential acquisitions with likelihood worse than 50%. Until we got any superstars that are at least of VC’s caliber, we DO NOT have a great team. If your team is not desirable enough, you’ll still end up in a situation like the Raptors, for instance—they had a core of Bosh, Calderon, and Bargnani (definitely better than Harris, Brook and Lee right now), and who did they end up adding? Turkolu! This move will give them a 2nd tier status at best in the East. Their franchise will again reach a pleateau. Do not think for a moment that building a championship team is like stacking up legos.

i’d just like to say…PLAYOFFS in ’10! (brook lopez voice)

couldn’t agree more with joe. Thorn is a great president, and seeing how it definitely seems Ratner will be selling the team, they just need to get an owner who cares about winning, someone like Mark Cuban but less annoying and doesnt trade budding stars for aging ones (Thank You, Cuban!) The Nets aren’t built to win this coming year, btu there’s no reason not to be optimistic as a fan, they have far more pieces ready for that superstar signing than the knicks have, and I think it’s better to be optimistic about the growth of our young guys than to shoot down those who believe in them. the sixers have made the playoffs each of the last two years with probably about the same amount of talent or less, so there’s no reason to believe it wouldn’t be possible for us to still be in the playoff race late in the season. or at least one could dream.

i think we should just stop and take a moment to settle down.
all you people think everything you say is correct. some of you may be, some of you may not. just wait and see what the nets do. no reason to argue against people that just express their own opinion. if you truly are a nets fan, just really… shut up with the bad talk and keep cheering.

If only that year Jefferson hadn’t torn that ligament in his wrist, never really got to play with Carter the whole season until the next year. The Nets got to the playoffs and lost in the 1st round vs. Miami 4-0. The next year they got to the 2nd round and lost to Miami again 4-1. That year was the best year for the Nets (2005-2006) finishing 49-33. They felt like the next year, they would be a very good team with Nenad Krstic developing to a 15 and 7 guy.

The Nets were on a roll until Krstic tore his ACL that year against the Lakers. He was averaging about 16 and 7 that year, up in the scoring column along with VC and RJ. I believe that year would have been key to the Nets success, however that devastating injury blew the Nets away. If Krstic didn’t blow out his knee, I think he would have helped the Nets to at least the Conference Finals. The Nets without Krstic for the remainder of the year, finished 41-41, and lost to Cleveland in the 2nd round 4-2. Not too bad. I believe the Nets, if they had Krstic would have made the Conference Finals.

Cleveland went on to the Finals that year, swept by the Spurs. What if the Nets had beat Cleveland? They would’ve been against Detroit. Who knows what would have happened? If they lost, which would be likely, the Nets would’ve felt great going into the next year… and possibly the path to success.

I like the trade of Kidd to Dallas in exchange for Harris and +.

So my projected lineup:
G – Devin Harris
G – Vince Carter
F – Richard Jefferson
F – Nenad Krstic
C – Brook Lopez