Nets Stay at #11 but Thorn Confident Nets Will Get a "Good Player"
The Nets didn't move up in the lottery and will pick at #11 in the Draft. Winning the lottery--and the right to pick Blake Griffin of Oklahoma--was the Clippers. The Grizzlies will pick second and the Thunder third. Rod Thorn said he's confident the Nets will pick a "good player" and Kiki Vandeweghe noted that Nets didn't think they had a chance at Brook Lopez last year. Thorn also denied the Nets are "shopping" Yi Jianlian.
- Clippers win NBA draft lottery, Griffin sweepstakes - AP
- Nets to stay put at the 11th pick in the 2009 NBA Draft - Dave D'Alessandro - Star-Ledger
- Nets Look for More Double-Digit Delight - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- No luck. Nets Pick 11th - Al Iannazzone - In the 'Zzone
- Nets land 11th pick in NBA draft - Julian Garcia - The InterNets
- Nets Hold Steady No. 11 in Lottery - Ben Couch - New Jersey Nets
- With no lottery luck, Nets get No. 11 pick - Al Iannazzone - The Nets Insider
- Nets stay put with No. 11 pick - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- Nets need to make the most of their pick in the NBA Draft - Julian Garcia - New York Daily News
- Draft, Summer, Injuries and Frank - Al Iannazzone - In the 'Zzone
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all that talk is over now. Who do we go with no? Or what will they do? And no 1 say go 4 the best player available.
by anonymous on May 19, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
Since we might get Boki back and were brining in yet another draft pick we should trade our pick along with Boone and Mo Agur to the 4 or 5th pick.
by Randy Oreens on May 19, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions
this draft is stocked with guards especially point guards.
My 3 picks if available at #11 is:
jordan hill (probably gone by 6)
demar derozan (probably gone by 8)
Earl Clark
Dejuan Blair
james johnson
stephen curry
mayner the pg
as you can i hopE we get a versatile forward or a real PF.
by ronnie on May 19, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
So pissed the clippers are lucky and i feel bad for the kings hahahaha 1 to 4 thats Chris Webber’s fault. Rod looked mad pissed when they said Nets
by ben on May 19, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions
Rubio is probably going second now so that rubio and gasol can play together. Thabeet is going to the Thunder so the top 3 are set. Why would the clippers trade there draft pick?
by ben on May 19, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions
Don’t worry…what this means is that Griffin will be a bust or injured. The Clippers have the worst kharma in the NBA.
Now what to do with Randolph. Plays the same position…and is owed gazillions.
by Net Income on May 19, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
Clippers are still the Clippers. For some reason I get the feeling Griffin won’t be as good as he might have been elsewhere. They almost seem cursed. Plus they’re not run too well.
For the Nets I like DeJuan Blair because of his toughness and that’s something the Nets need. But he’s probaly only 6’5" and he doesn’t jump real well not to mention he’s had surgery on his knee.
Earl Clark would be good as a SF. The only other thing I could see is a back up point guard like Lawson
by supreme on May 19, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions
Clippers:
Blake Griffin & Al Thornton/Gordon
Nets:
Harris, Ryan Anderson, 2010 Dallas pick & Warriors pick
by biggie on May 19, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
Pick Ty Lawson with our 11th.
Lawson/Dooling
VC/CDR / Gordon
Simmons/Hayes/Thornton
Griffin/Yi/Swat
Lopez/Boone/Yi
by biggie on May 19, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
I want the team to trade this pick and get another lopez…
by netsball on May 19, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
u’d give a proven all star point gaurd for a 4???
he might even be a bust…
i doubt it though…but the team should trade the pick to phoenix for Robin Lopez
by netsball on May 19, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
@biggie. how do u expect to get griffin and lawson? that makes no sense. the clippers wouldnt trade us that pick for harris?
by ben on May 19, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
I was at the Lottery party tonight – Kiki told a story of when he played for Portland and they had the #2 pick. They already had Clyde Drexler so they passed on MJ for Sam Bowie. Kiki said he knows first hand how badly that turned out – so his moral is to ALWAYS take the best player available.
Ideally, Earl Clark drops to us at 11. The only benefit to Milwaukee picking at 10 is that they definitely need to take a PG – as they have too many 3s on that team.
My guess as to how the lottery plays out is as follows:
1) LA – Griffin
2) Memphis – Rubio
3) OKC – Thabeet
4) Sacramento – this pick could be dealt – as Sacramento really does not need Harden (Kevin Martin) or Jordan Hill
5) Wizzards – Jordan Hill
6) Minn – Tyreke Evans (will play PG and Mayo can play SG)
7) Warriors – DeMar DeRozan
8) Knicks – Stephen Curry
9) Raptors – Holliday or Jennings
10) Milwaukee – Holliday or Jennings or Lawson
11) Nets – Earl Clark
I think where it will get interesting is at the 7th pick – as Golden State could potentially take Clark – as they love these athletic 3/4s like Anthony Randolph and Brandon Wright. Knicks probably take Curry as is the “biggest name” on the board at 8 – and is probably a solid fit in D’Antoni’s system – plus his friendship with LeBron won’t hurt. Clark not really a fit for the Knicks due to Gallinari, Chandler and the likelihood they resign Lee. And I think both Toronto and Milwaukee have to go for a PG. So worst case – I would think that we get either Clark or Holliday. Too bad we did not lose 1 extra game and have gotten the 10th pick……
There is probably a small chance that the Nets look to move up to the 4th pick – dealing our 11th and maybe include Yi – but not sure the value is there to reach for a guy like DeMar DeRozan.
by Ryan243 on May 19, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
oh nvm i didn’t see the post before. But still the clippers would have to be out of their mind to make a trade like that. Griffin and thorton? your nuts man sorry
by ben on May 19, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
the clippers might actually be good next year with
Baron, Gordon, Thorton, Blake, and Kaman or Camby??
not bad at all
by netsball on May 19, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
If we get really lucky and Clark falls into our lap at the 11th pick – the Nets just got very lucky 2 years in a row. I don’t think Clark is a true PF in the league but I think he could become a very good SF. He is like a Lamar Odom/Marvin Williams type guy. And is super athletic and according to Chad Ford is a very hard worker.
A lineup next year of:
PG – DH/Keyon
SG – VC/CDR
SF – Clark/Hayes/Simmons
PF – Anderson/Yi/Swat
C – BLo/Boone
is not a bad lineup.
Also after speaking with Kiki it sounds EXTREMELY unlikely that the Nets would trade for a 2nd pick in this draft. He said that it is very hard to develop young players when you have a young team – and that was a problem this year with so many young guys. So I would guess there is no chance that happens.
Then in 2010 – hopefully we can get a stud PF and a very good back up center or SG.
by Ryan243 on May 19, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
It’s a good thing the Clippers didn’t sign elton brand last year. I think the clippers need a new coach though.
by ben on May 19, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
Harris’ contract is extremely valuable, and he’s more proven than Griffin and Thornton combined, and we’ll be throwing two extra picks next year in a deep draft.
THey can move Baron Davis back to Golden State, and get a decent guard in return. THey can’t move Randolph. Are they going to pay a backup PF for 10 M a year?
by croc on May 19, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
I can’t think of any NBA non-rookie contracts as attractive as Harris’. 20 pts & 7 asts all-star locked up for multiple years for approx. 8 M a year ? That’s gotta be the best contract out there.
by biggie on May 19, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
NI,
Blair plays below the rim and he’s had 2 reconstructive knee surgeries. He’s very good but the NBA season is very long and he’s very young to have that kind of injury history. I like him but that scares me…
by supreme on May 19, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
1 Clippers -Blake Griffin
2 Grizzlies -Ricky Rubio
3 Thunder -Hasheem Thabeet
4 Kings -Brandon jennings
5 Wizards -james harden
6 Timberwolves -demar derozen
7 Warriors -jordan hill
8 Knicks -stephen curry
9 Raptors-tyreke evans
10 Bucks-jrue holiday
11 Nets-earl clark!!!!!!
by Andy on May 19, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
No, I don’t think Blair plays below the rim. He doesn’t play below the rim anymore than Perkins and Big baby, and they work out pretty well.
I’ve seen clips of Blair dunking the ball stronger than those two, jumping quicker than those two. I’ve seen him throwing the ball to the glass to himself and dunking it with one hand. His athleticism is underrated.
by biggie on May 19, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
I am happy that the Knicks didnt get number one pick. Thats first and foremost.
I am happy that the Bucks didnt move up, cause that would annoy the heck out of me cause that spot woulda been ours if not for the flip of a coin.
Of the teams in the top 3, wow if either the Grizz or the Thunder got him, that would be an upper echelon team, particularly the Thunder. The Clips can really be pretty decent now also.
by Chris2 on May 19, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
I agree with many people, I am raelly hoping that Earl Clark falls to the Nets and hopefully we could snatch him. He’s perfect for this team bceause he plays the 3 and 4, and he has a lot of upside.
by Jason on May 19, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
The big decision the Nets have is what to do with Yi, since it was posted that Kiki was looking to trade him?
If Nets take a PF, then Yi or RA will have to go. Since I can’t imagine Yi accepting a role with limited playing time, I would keep RA. Unfortunately, Yi’s trading value would be low at this time.
However, if Frank was willing to play Clark or James Johnson at the SF (as they are also listed), then Yi could be given another chance. If Frank would continue to play
“small ball”, then Fire Frank.
If Clark isn’t available at the 11th pick, but good PG like Ty Lawson is, then I would package a swap with Phoenix and get RLopez for Boone and other considerations. Nets might still get someone like James Johnson with the Phoenix pick at #14. I sure hope Thorn will be considering these options, because Nets desperately need a quality backup center who can play alongside Brook at times. What would happen if Brook gets injured?
Nets would be much improved if they could add both RLopez and Johnson on draft night.
by jerry25 on May 19, 2009 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
Biggie,
The ability to dunk does not mean he plays above the rim. He uses his body to get space and he knows how to use that big body to get position. The same goes for Big Baby. I wish we would have drafted Big Baby. The difference is Blair has a injury history. But the Nets staff is good. They caught the arthritis with Shareef Abdur Raheim so I know they’ll check him out. But 2 reconstructive surgeries can’t be good.
by supreme on May 19, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
@Supreme
My point is simply that Blair is very athletic for his size. People make it seem like he can barely touch the rim. THe injury history is worrisome, but wasn’t that in Highschool? Blair was fairly healthy in his college career, no? THe other thing about Blair is that he’s wingspan is long. FOr me, he’s not a clear choice, but I wouldn’t mind if we pick him.
by biggie on May 19, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
The Nets should trade that pick away. They need a establish PF or SF. Yi, Anderson, Simmons, Hassel, and now about another so called Moose.
Every team wants a moose, Moose are very hard to find.
Lee, max , Millsap, landry, these guys are all late picks but no one expected them to be moose. I don’t how Rod thorn is going to find one in the draft. Mostly likely they will become bust. Just like he did with all the other nets picks.
by seeker on May 19, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
@seeker
WE did have busts before, but we didn’t draft them because we expected them to be mooses. Blair has moose written all over. He might be a lot less talented than some other guys, but I do not doubt his effort and character.
by biggie on May 19, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions
I think the Clippers will be the most improved team next year. Baron Davis had an awful year. I like Eric Gordon. AND
they take Griffin. Their problem is ZACH is going to be very pissed off, because he becomes a twenty minute a game player. Boy, did Sacremento get screwed! We got what we all expected, to stay at 11. I still think we take the best big man available. We just don’t need any guards, unless we can move VC, then we need a knock down 2 who can defend. I just can’t see us taking a PG, with Devin and Dooling under contract for several years. I think the first three picks are obvious, but it will be interesting getting to 4-14. I think the draft gets thin after 14 or 15…but don’t forget Danny Granger!!! Very high draft choice buried on the Lakers? Adam Morrison! AND George Karl should play that dredlocked goon he got from the Knicks on Kobe. I am pulling for Denver. GO CARMELO!
by Paul Erstein on May 19, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
Thorn denied both Mitch Lawrence stories. He said the Nets are not actively shopping Yi and that the Nets will simply have one fewer assistant this season than they had last year.
Mitch Lawrence is simply not reliable.
by Net Income on May 20, 2009 12:42 AM EDT reply actions
yeah i smelled off season BS from Mitch on this one…
by netsball on May 20, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions
I just question what Thorn does sometime, he won’t trade Yi so now he got Moose, Anderson, Yi, all playing power forward.
Anderson won’t get anything back unless he package it with something else.
So basically we are looking at 3 power forward that can’t play because Moose won’t look to score and we will go small ball again.
Don’t Thorn learn his lesson.
by seeker on May 20, 2009 1:20 AM EDT reply actions
It’s still early in the process, but I think Clark will be available at 11, and I think we’ll take him. If he’s gone, I hope we take Williams. I wouldn’t Flynn, Lawson or Johnson. But please, PLEASE do NOT take Blair at 11. It’d be a HUGE mistake. I’d rather trade the pick than waste it that way. He’s not worth a lottery pick. No, no NO!
Btw, when Thorn talked about getting a “moose”, I doesn’t necessarily means we are going to get him with our lotto pick. If Thorn feels we need a moose, he should sign or trade for a player like that. But you don’t take a guy like Blair at 11, esp if better players like Clark, Williams, Flynn or Lawson are available.
Draft for talent, trade for need. If Kiki and Rod are serious about taking BPA at 11, there should be NO WAY they take Blair. NO WAY!
by Andrés on May 20, 2009 5:20 AM EDT reply actions
I meant i wouldn’t mind Flynn, Lawson or Johnson.
by Andrés on May 20, 2009 5:21 AM EDT reply actions
When it comes down to it, it’s gonna be a crapshoot for everyone picking after the first two. All these guys can turn out to be anything from worthless to solid rotation guys. We just have to hope that whoever we pick is willing to work and get better at whatever they do.
I still would go with someone who plays really good defense as my primary preference for whoever we pick
by muwu on May 20, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions
Seriously, we have to trade this pick, its simply a waste. No point using a pick in a draft thats gonna get us an average role player at best. We might as well see if theres a sucker out there that would take it for something thats actually valuable.
by InRodWeTrust on May 20, 2009 8:10 AM EDT reply actions
And if Stephen Curry is available at 11, we HAVE to take him. So much about a lot of players is potential, but people are willing to ignore his potential because of his height. The league is fast becoming the league of the point guard, i don’t think undersized guys who were sg’s in college should be as easily written off anymore because NBA rules make perimeter players untouchable
by muwu on May 20, 2009 8:21 AM EDT reply actions
I think we should trade the pick away, getting a legit “Moose” PF is our primary concern because Yi hasnt shown he can compete at the NBA level and Anderson is better served coming off the bench. Lopez needs help and I dont see anyone at #11 that will come and fill that role
by Mr. Dollar Bills on May 20, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions
My ideal/realistic draft
#11
Swat
for
C.Smith
#18
#47
At 18 take the best PG available since we do need a back-up/3rd stringer esp. if Dooling and Harris play the 2 more, and VC the 3.
C.Smith could be the “moose” we need.
- is a nice since we don’t have a 2nd rounch pick and Minny has 5 draft picks.
Harris / #18
Dooling / CDR / Hassell
Carter / Simmons / Hayes
Anderson / C.Smith / Yi / Najera
Lopez / Boone / #47
by Jack Handy on May 20, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions
I wouldn’t trade the pick if Clark is there at 11, if he’s still abailable by the time we select, it should be a no brainer.
by Andrés on May 20, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions
Judging by a lot of these mock drafts and what some draftnicks have to say, It looks like Demar Derozan could be the one to slip a little bit in this years draft. Could it be possible that he could slip all the way to the 11th pick?
I’m hoping for a couple things to happen before the draft to ensure maximum slippage.
1) Shawn Marion resigning with the Raptors, so they won’t be looking for a SF.
2) Ramon Sessions finding a good deal somewhere other than Milwaukee. That would leave the Bucks in need of a PG.
The team that scares me is the Timberwolves. I’m hoping they find their needs at their guard positions to be greater than their needs at the small forward position. Ryan Gomes looks like he is going to be pretty legit. Corey Brewer isn‘t developing like they hoped, but with him spelling Gomes and Mike Miller and even Craig Smith both able to play the SF as well, I think they’re pretty well equipped at that position.
Derozan doesn’t exactly have the ball handling skills to hold his own at SG just yet in this league, but I do see Minnesota drafting a guard. If Harden is available, I see them scooping him up. I could also see them taking Tyreke Evans. He would look pretty good next to Randy Foye.
by Dirt on May 20, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions
This “moose” stuff is funny, but it’s accurate, although I think Rod should have used “bull” to describe what the nets need. Lopez and Boone are kind of moose-like, although neither of them is really physical enough. I think Lopez will get tougher (before he bolts via FA in a few years to the west coast – sorry IMO sign & trade coming at that time).
The "bull’ type is something they lack, and I noted that early on when the roster was put together and the PFs included Yi and Anderson. I kept saying what will these guys do when a bull like Maxiell (short stocky athletic mean streak) elbows them in the throat for an offensive rebound? This is the NBA afterall.
Obviously Thorn saw that lack of physicality (thank god). Jumpers sure are lovely though…from your guards IMO. Najera brings somes of that bull toughness (when he’s not injured) – but really when he’s playing a big SF position. I like Williams but he’s somewhat lost and out of control.
by Holy on May 20, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions
Again, I do not understand the pessimism re Yi. He is a kid, he is from China, he showed some potential in both of his seasons and yet everyone assumes he cannot, will not improve. I don’t assume that at all. I look at Bargnani’s improvement from years 1 and 2 to year 3. Same basic player, although Bargnani is probably tougher and better from deep, but Yi is more athletic. This will also be his first summer in the US.
by Net Income on May 20, 2009 11:16 AM EDT reply actions
If we get Earl Clark at the 11th pick – that will be huge for us. I really think that we will end up with either Clark or Jrue Holliday. Overall I am very excited for this draft – if we get Clark I think he is going to be a very very important piece of the puzzle for us.
If you have a super long athletic 3/4 to pair with Brook, DH and VC – with the deep bench we have – this team is a playoff team next season. Now we all have to hope that Dallas is awful next season – and that the Warriors, OKC, and Golden State play well – to ensure Dallas is a lottery team….That would be the cherry on the top for the DH pick.
Also OKC is going to be NASTY next year –
C – Thabeet/Kristic
PF – Jeff Green
SF – Durant
SG – Sefolosa
PG – Westbrook
Pencil them in for a playoff spot now. Hopefully 1 or 2 more teams surprise – and knock Dallas into the lottery. Dallas is F*cked next year – esp if they lose Kidd.
by Ryan243 on May 20, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
If Yi did develop and became something of a consistent player at the 4 – and we get Clark – we have a really really deep team next year.
With a starting line up of DH, VC, Clark, Yi and Lopez and a bench of Dooling, CDR, Hayes, Simmons, Ryan, Hassel, SWAT and Boone this is a really talented team who should be a lock to make the playoffs.
by Ryan243 on May 20, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
since we didn’t move up and with the weak draft i’m not losing any sleep with our pick like the previous years anyone who is projected to be available when we pick is just as good as the next guy…
DEJUAN BLAIR – a moose; plays big for his size (a perfect complement to yi who plays small for his size ;) ); 7-2 wingspan; best offensive rebounder in college in 8 years; weight issues and previous knee problems.
EARL CLARK – posseses highest potential in 2009 draft; can play multiple positions, can do anything well (except shooting from 3); played sg in high school!
TY LAWSON/JOHNNY FLYNN – we need a 3rd pg; small pgs running rings around defenders in the playoffs.
by jirohkanzaki on May 20, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions
The pessimism regarding Yi is cuz he is a bust. Peroid. Being a kid from China imo means he is overrated cuz he played with crap before the NBA. Waiting for Yi to develop is like waiting for Santa. Face it between him and Opie playing small ball we’re looking at the lottery till it changes. Clark might be the better player then Blair but wouldn’t help us as much. We need Blair more. We need a defensive “moose” and it makes sense economicaly to try and draft one. However, if we had a coach with a clue, who saw the potential of the players we have imo we have answers to our problem at PF on the team now (not Yi or RA) and I would draft Clark. We still need a backup center thou and would trade Yi for one.
BL/?
Swat/Boone
Clark/RA/Hayes
VC/Hayes/CDR
DH/Dooling
by libigman on May 20, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
What we need is a strong and tough player at the 4!!!!!!
Get DeJaun Blair!!!
by R.M. on May 20, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions
Build for the future – Clark has a much higher risk/reward than Blair does. Plug in Clark at the 3 and if he becomes a Shawn Marion/Lamar Odom/Marvin Williams type of guy – we will be in a great position for the future. Next year focus on getting the best 4 in the draft – and if we get the top pick via Dallas – you take John Wall (the next Derrick Rose).
I think a 3 is our biggest need. If SWAT gets his head straight – nobody is campaigning for Blair. Hopefully things just click for Sean this year. And I expect Boone to have a much better year this coming year. Maybe even play him at the 4.
by Ryan243 on May 20, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions
The pessimism regarding Yi is due to the fact that he stunk up the gym for 90% of the season. I am personally rooting for him to improve because he can be a great asset to this team, but i’m not betting the farm on that happening.
Lopez needs a tough rebounder/defensive 4 that can finish around the basket next to him.
by Mr. Dollar Bills on May 20, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
What do we think about…
Harris
CDR
VC
Clark
Lopez
…?
by Dirt on May 20, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
The 2 guys I absolutely don’t want in the draft are Blair & Clark. Both have BUST written all over them. At the 4, we need a physical yet athletic PF that can defend some of the quicker, face up PFs. We need a KMart-esque player, but there are none in this draft.
I say go with DeRozan or Evans if available. If not, I want James Johnson. If he’s also gone, then we go with the best available PG.
by TheNetsFan on May 20, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions
Trade the pick for R. Lopez! If Pheonix is extremely high on a guy that is there at 11 and who stands no chance of falling to 15, see if we can swap picks with the Suns, picking up R.Lopez in the process. Then try to get James Johnson or best available point guard with the #15 pick.
by Chris2 on May 20, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions
so now that la is getting Griffin so can we make a trade with them so they have room for them? Al Thornton, Zach Randolph, Chris Kaman, Marcus Camby o and De Andre Jordan. you know we need a pf and they have plenty of them. they have 2 get rid of their big men and we need a good pf. Thornton? not a fan of zach so you tell me ?
by anonymous on May 20, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
Earl Clark will not be a PF in the NBA. He is going to be a SF. We desperately NEED a SF for this team – maybe not next year but for the future. If he is on the board at 11 you HAVE to take him.
We are not a win now team – but drafting correctly this year and next – and we are a contender in 2 years. This has not been a horrible rebuilding process – and we are getting many of the pieces in place.
I don’t think it makes sense to trade our pick to Phoenix for theirs and Lopez if we can get Clark at 11. If anything, we could probably deal Swat straight up for Robin Lopez if we really wanted to go that route.
by Ryan243 on May 20, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions
The only 4 the Clips have is Zach. Kaman, Camby, Jordan all are 5s. The only guy I would want out of the 4 is Kaman. But then we move Brook to the 4? Could happen—Brook does have a nice stroke.
by brian on May 20, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions
Get Clark and let him playing SF, he will have solid minutes to develop.Yi deserve at least a chance until the next trade deadline.If he doesn’t improve then we can use Clark in the PF spot with Ryan.
by pradas on May 20, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions
@pradas
I also agree with getting a combo forward like Clark so as to give Yi another chance and at the same time “playing bigger” than last year.
Problem is that Frank seems to be set on “small ball”.
In that case, I think Thorn would fire Frank if Nets start losing in November.
by jerry25 on May 20, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
will james johnson be able to play sf in the nba? If so then maybe we could take a chance with him…
by Andy on May 21, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions
This is a no-brainer. Dejuan Blair is who the Nets need.
by Edd on May 21, 2009 7:23 AM EDT reply actions
Again: draft for talent, trade for need. Esp in a draft like this. Things like Sam Bowie getting drafted ahead of Michael Jordan is what happens when you focus on drafting for need.
Blair is not lottery material, not even in a weak draft like this year’s. We don’t need him THAT bad. If Thorn wants a “moose”, he should trade for one or try to sign one, not waste a lottery pick that way.
Blair won’t be BPA at 11, and Rod and Kiki are talking about taking BPA at 11, so I hope they don’t take him.
We need a guy like Clark. He can defend, the kid can block shots and steal the ball. He’s a talented offensive player, can handle and pass the ball… if he’s still there at 11, you CAN’T pass on a guy like him, esp in a draft like this.
I think he’ll be there at 11, but if he’s gone by the time we select, I think we still have very nice options, like Williams or Flynn.
Williams is a guy who provides toughness and defense, the kid is so complete, he can play all three perimeter positions, he is a heck of a rebounder for a SG and can pass the ball, he could handle PG duties if our main PGs have injury issues like they had this season.
by Andrés on May 21, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions
harris harris harris
carter T-will carter
Clark Carter Johnson
Yi Yi Yi
Brook Brook Brook
I think our pick will be one the those three…twill is a tough guy who can guard pgs, sgs, and sfs. its going to be a difficult decision if clark is gone.
by Andy on May 21, 2009 8:39 AM EDT reply actions
I agree – Clark should be the pick – if we are drafting for best player available.
Only problem is I am starting to think that he could be the “guy” who rises up draft boards over the next month. Probably has as much upside as anyone not named Blake or Rubio. And teams always value athleticism, and size at their position – both of which he has.
I actually think he is the perfect fit for our team. He is long and athletic and can play 2 positions on the floor – Coach Frank values versatility above all else. He can play on the floor in both traditional and small ball lineups. Another young piece to add to our young core.
And his style of play suggests a guy who can blend into a team where he will not be THE MAN – and provide 12-5-3 with maybe 1 block per night. This team is going to ultimately be Brook’s team, with DH as the secondary option. Having a SF who can provide a bit of everything in the starting lineup would be huge. Plus his size and athleticism will allow him to guard smaller quicker 3s as well as big 3s. He is the perfect type of player to add to this squad. Unfortunately – I am starting to think he goes top 8.
by Ryan243 on May 21, 2009 8:53 AM EDT reply actions
“Andrés Says:
May 21st, 2009 at 8:13 am
Again: draft for talent, trade for need."
What this guy just said^^^^
I say grab the best perimeter guy available and get a PF thru trades or FA.
by Mr. Dollar Bills on May 21, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions
The Nets needs rebounding badly defensive and offensive. They need a bid body underneath the rim for rebounds and put backs. They have already missed in not choosing “Big Baby” now they can remedy that by taking Blair. Clark looks good offensively but can he ramble it up underneath.
by Edd on May 21, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, in hindsight picking Sean over Big Baby was a huge mistake. Davis rebounds, plays tough on both ends, and can hit the short jumper. Sean can’t do much other than run, hustle, and jump.
by Mr. Dollar Bills on May 21, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions
@Mr Dollar Bills
In hindsight that does appear correct, but my only question is would Big Baby have been as motivated with Frank benching him and playing him sporadically, if ever at all. The thing that may have benefited Big Baby the most is NOT being under Frank. Plus with Frank’s weak leadership Big Baby would probably be Super Colossal Jumbo Baby and making the bench look like a teeter-totter.
by TheMann on May 21, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
Well according to the experts on here, Frank developed Brook Lopez, Devin Harris, Vince Carter, Jarvis Hayes, Chris Douglas-Roberts, and Keyon Dooling.
So I’m sure Big Baby would have been fine.
And if he didnt develop properly, it would be because he sucks, and not because of Frank’s superior coaching methods…like Josh Boone and Sean Williams, for instance.
Yi, on the other hand, just needs more time, so by the time he turns 28 next year he’ll be playing at an all star level, and we can give Frank all the credit about developing him as well.
by Mr. Dollar Bills on May 21, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
New to this blog…… Big Baby would have been great as a Net and maybe would have kept J-Kidd interested enuff to stick around… Let’s not forget passing on Paul Millsap in the high 2nd round…..DeJuan Blair could make up for Millsap.
by einstein on May 21, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
Passing on Glen Davis to take Williams was a mistake because Davis was (and still is) the better player. Don’t make the same mistake again. Blair won’t be BPA at 11. Don’t take him.
by Andrés on May 22, 2009 4:09 AM EDT reply actions
If Clark is gone by 11, Williams should be our man. The kid can provide physical toughness, GREAT defense, intensity and versatility, as he can play all three perimeter positions and could help us at any perimeter position if we have injuries.
He’s a heck of rebounder, which we really need, and his passing abilities could make him fill the role of 3rd PG if Devin and Keyon have injury issues… He’d be a PERFECT fit here, starting next to Harris and Carter. I’d take him over Blair ANY DAY.
by Andrés on May 22, 2009 4:31 AM EDT reply actions

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