Is Lawrence Frank on His Way Out?

YES PLEASE!

I give Frank credit, he got more out of the team towards the latter in end of the first half of the season. I think he pushed Carter and Harris too much, and he’s paying for it now.
 If the Nets do fire him, it will be a complete 180 from what Thorn and Kiki said earlier this season

For the sake of this young talent and the future of this team, get him out of here and call Eddie Jordan ASAP!!!!!

“FF”!!!

“FF”!!

TODAY, please, i can’t hit refresh enough.

I think this franchise is in serious trouble.

dirt i agree…

Its a player’s league unfortunately. Frank hasn’t done bad this year, but what can you really do if your players stop listening to you. Frank’s a good coach but if someone new can turn things around I’m all for it. They have all offseason to look into it.

The Nets should have fired Frank a long time ago. He relies too much on his starters at the expense of developing his bench. The Nets need a coach who had a real playing career.

Good lord please get rid of this coach. He’s had this team underachieving for THREE YEARS.

I’d really like to have someone who actually played the game before in his life.

RT should not act so disappointed given the quality of the product he has out there. There is enough blame to go around…

@trenton

bingo. its a players league! you need talent and players who can motivate themselves and just get the job done. for that i cannot blame frank. yeah he has a say in FA coming in, but getting dooling and hayes were positives.

we need athletic players, players who want to attack the rim, players who have attitude and maybe that means some cockiness.

what i do blame frank for is how horrible we have become as the year has gone on. we all know he fails at halftime adjustments, but he makes offensive plays way too predictable. we are never creative and change things up. im not saying do it at the start of the year because everyone needs to learn a new system. but as the year goes on add one,two plays that you use at times.

frank’s seat has to be hot, but i think he gets to start the season as coach unless we finish the season with more efforts like this and win no more games.

i dont think ratner is going to want to pay frank to sit home and pay a new coach for a year. maybe he will get fired at the halfway point next year, but i would be a little surprised if he was let go between now and next year. i wouldnt be surprised if Brian Hill took over. if thats the case then it wont make us better really. it might spark the guys because of a new coach but at some point we need a new head coach who has experience and will command respect when he walks in. i’d like to look at the celtics and lakers staff. get someone in here who has been winning and a big piece of it.

It’s hard to single out the coach for the team’s effort on the court, but in all fairness, Frank has had quite a bit of time to turn this around relative to other coaches in the league. Many coaches have come and gone over the time he took over our Nets, yet all that was produced on the floor was mediocrity. Five full years is an eternity in the NBA (and coaching in general), and there has been little to show in that time. Whether it’s fair to heap all the blame on Frank is unclear, however, he has clearly lost his team at the end of this season, and maybe that’s reason enough to part ways with him.

Also, I concur with Dirt. The team’s performance on and off the court recently has been disastrous. They’re underachieving on the court, and this Brooklyn arena deal is going to officially fall apart any day now. We need a new direction, and maybe that should start with a new coach, and a commitment to defense.

Also, I will say that it looks like the Nets might wait until the offseason to make a move, which I would prefer. One thing I can’t stand is when coaches get fired during the season. That is so disrespectful to the coach and the team (see J. Calipari, B. Scott), and distracts the team as they move forward. If they do make a move, I think they should do it before the Draft, when it makes more sense.

Yes, LFrank is on his way out. There is no other way to go.
But the answer is not an old retread like Mike Fratello, any more than it is Mark Jackson. We need a young coach, but someone with some experience. Maybe that guy who coached the SUNS this year, but got fired? That wasn’t his fault. Our NETS have just stopped responding to LFRANK. It doesn’t make him a bad coach, or a bad person, it just makes him DONE.

Please Fire him if he gets fired today I will take everyone out for a drink. Frank is by far the worse coach in the NBA he couldnt coach the nets beat 5 year olds..

I hope we lose the next 11 games as long as the guys can take it mentally. The better chance we can sneak in and get Blake!!!

@FireFrankNow

Come on. I don’t think any NBA franchise has fired a coach with less than 10 games to go. The Nets have respect for Frank so that won’t be an issue. I think they’ll look to see who is available or who the players respond to before making a change.

I agree Frank has had time to make things happen and less than stellar moments have resulted (which are not all his fault.) But to fire the guy without a BETTER replacement in mind would be foolish.

And I don’t think you need an ex-player to make for a good coach. Just an FYI.

He tried Yi at the SF last night, I thought with good results. He might be stubborn but not stupid. With the way the team is playing he might be forced to do something he normally wouldn’t. I truly believe that he has the players to win with now. A couple of competitive games his normal way will just mask the problem. He’ll never win over the long term. He just has to be smart enough to be willing to change his style to save his job. It’s almost as thou he was out to prove someone was wrong this season. He’s playing Detroit who is tough on D and if Frank plays small, we’ll probably get crushed again. He has to play Boone or Swat at the 4 with Lopez. Imo it’s his only solution. I hope he tries it before he’s gone. For the people who run this site and are usually positive, supportive and understandably so, if you have a connection to the team maybe you can make a suggestion before a good man loses his job.

I too think it’s a players league more than a coaches league. But sometimes the players need a new coach to bring energy to the organization.

I think most people really over value the talent on the Nets. There is no starting PF or SF talent on this team. And Brook is a rookie and other teams take advantage of his inexperience. Also VC is older and doesn’t play like he did when he was in his prime. And Devin is still learning and has to find a better balance between getting his and getting his teamates going.

I don’t look at any team in the playoffs and feel that the Nets have more talent than any of them. Those teams are, more talented than the Nets. If Redd and Bogut were playing even the Bucks have more talent than the Nets.

The Nets have a lot of unproven players like Swat, CDR, Yi and Anderson that people assume are good because they’ve had flashes. The other team have vets that are proven 82 game a year players that you know what they bring every night. We don’t have that.

All that being said. I was at the game last night and that’s probably the worst game I’ve ever been to. It’s time for change and new energy. I think that’ll include Frank and VC.

@libigman,

You’re kidding about Yi playing well at the 3 right? Alexander took him to the basket at will. That’s Joe “I haven’t played much this season” Alexander. I’d have to say that no one played well last night with the exception of CDR.

I hope you got a chance to read my post from yesterday. if so you didn’t respond. Here it is…

No frustration here bro. I just haven’t seen anything from you that shows you have anything to contribute other than play swat at the 4. Gets a little boring. You need to read the scouting report that Phil Jackson had on the nets a couple of days ago. He gives Frank some credit. But more importantly he talks about how coaches think. How they attack other teams. I know your whole argument already so beleive me there’s no reason to repeat it. What I’m simply saying is that there is a lot more to basketball at any level other than is one particular player playing out of position. You can say it another thousand times. Doesn’t make it the only thing that has to happen for a team to win. There are several things. And it’s not just defense. It’s offense and defense. Again read Phil Jacksons scouting report. Might help you get over that one viewpoint. And I keep telling you…but you don’t get this either.. I could care less about Opie… But Roy Rogers? You gotta tell me what he’s done to make him the next coach of the Nets. Does he sleep with swat?

Never underestimate the value and importatance of a good coach. If the best players to help you win aren’t playing cuz of the coaches decision, what good are the players.

Supreme

Your post is commng from someone who thinks Frank is doing a decent job. Therefore, if Yi played well I doubt you would notice. As far as your post, I just ignored it.

All of those YI lovers Please try to defend him NOW:

The Nets tried their best to justify it as more than a salary dump, claiming that Yi is “a very special player,” which hasn’t exactly been the case. They wouldn’t use the term “rebuild,” either; they called it “retooling.”

In the end, they can only be sure of this: Jefferson has averaged 19 points and 4.5 rebounds in an off year; and while Simmons is a solid backup and a professional presence, Yi is one year away from washing out entirely.

• Thorn made a Huge mistake taking on this bum and keeping LFrank…

@Dirt – I agree this franchise is in a world of poop if they don’t bring in a coach that can get the most out of this talent…

Once again… you don’t watch games and criticize. Your theory gets challenged and no response. Your supposedly a coach with a .700 win percentage? Obviously this is all a myth or you wouldn’t have time to post on this site. I think you’d be coaching your team to some sort of tournament run. All that being said… your lack of hoops knowledge speak volumes… ? So you though Yi played well last night? lol enough said… I’m done with you mister swat is the cure for cancer…lol

Supreme

Yi played the Sf in the 4th qtr and I read you left at the end of the third. Talk about don’t watch games and critize. Btw I didn’t say I coach now. Relax.

YES Fire Frank Now!!

he better be

The problem with Frank, is that he never run any sort of plays for the rookies except Carter and Harris and that alone causes the Nets to have a stagant offense .
Ocassionally there might be a few but overall is Harris and Carter.

Even in the Kidd era, the last 2 plays is always carter on the top of the key. The ball would always be on Carter and now is Harris.

I feel the scouting report is just to report what the Nets can do but overall I don’t think the report reflect the team play, the scouting report should say “shut down harris and we win”

Eddie Jordan would be a good pick up

two words.Brian Hill

Smallball is unforgivable.

The real problem is DH not Frank. Although he was the fourth offensive option in Dallas and playing very good defence and on the AV’s short leash, they finally gave on him paying such a high price
He can have the same stats that he has this year but the team will never reach 0.500 mark and he can not be a good PG for any competitive team.

lots of hatred out there tonight – against Coach Frank, Yi, each other. long season……

Maybe there should be an ice cream social or something for supreme and libigman.

like it or not, chances are pretty great that we will lose at least 5 of the last 8 games – and i would not be shocked if they lose all 8 (only game i think they win is the season finale vs the knicks). and with those losses, hopefully we get a good draft pick – with a shot at the top pick. i’m increasingly worried though, that the nets sell this pick regardless of where it is. i could see the nets bringing back ager for the veteran minimum rather than paying a high draft pick guaranteed money…..

I think that the organization needs to pick one direction and go with it rather than this half hearted rebuild, retool, safe money effort and this pie in the sky dream of moving to Brooklyn.

The goal of the team recently has been to cut costs in an effort to move to Brooklyn – hence jettisoning Richard Jefferson out for next to nothing on draft day and then the serious consideration of throwing VC away for a bag of chips and cap space at the draft deadline. All I can say is thank God they didn’t do that because we would be in a far far worse situation now than we already are.

I like our roster and I want to see the young guys mature, but we cannot expect to be world champions with the current state of the team. The only way to get better will be to spend the money they’ve been feverishly hording on free agents and current players like Dooling and Hayes who have been a great piece this year. Thorn has every reason to be disappointed in the effort, but let’s now take the necessary steps to actually make the team better. If that means a coaching change fine, but let’s spend some money instead of cutting costs left and right.

L. Frank could be a perfect scape goat for the management and the owners to hide their profound mistakes. I will rewind a bit: Williams first, Williams second, A. Wright, H. Adams and you can make your own list after that. Not taking back N. Krstic was a mistake, not drafting D. Granger was a mistake, moving R.J. for B. S. and Yi was a mistake, now you can continue with your own list.

  It started when K. Martin left. Instead to replace him, they got

V. Carter. He is great but he didn’t replace K. Martin. To be correct they never find anybody to replace K. Martin. From that exact moment Nets have a hole at 4.

 V. Carter is a great player, but R.J. was neglected a bit after his arrival.

I am not going to talk about J. Kidd, except we’ll never get anybody of his caliber. Point guard was replaced by shooting guard, who is very talented, very soft and not a leader.

  Nets don’t have a leader. V. Carter is on his way out and he knows it, that’s why nobody gives a “Shift” anymore.

   Time arrived for human sacrifice, to save management/owner’s butt from further humility.

   Is L. Frank a scape goat to be? Maybe, who else, but don’t blame the guy for the hard work, supreme knowledge, sleepless nights, etc..

  Fire the management, change the owners and start from the beginning.

I don’t want to blame Kiki, his new here, however

Thorn has to admit the mistakes and go, he "Funk"ed it up.

Correct. Management should hold a lot of the blame. Aside from Lopez, they have not drafted great in the past 5 years. Jarvis Hayes, Keyon Dooling and Boki were the best pick ups in free agency over the past 5 years.

@Nodar Rode

“supreme knowledge”?? LOLOL

It’s almost like your entire post is a parody of basketball intelligence.

The guy never even played high school basketball. DIDN’T MAKE THE TEAM.

What kind of “supreme knowledge” comes with having never played the game at an elite level and understanding how a game is played??

Unfortunately, FCE, the parent company that owns the Nets, is in an awful financial position, and doesn’t have the money to spend on upgrading the team. This is why the team’s oncourt problems and their purported move to BK are related; they are not separate problems! Ratner needs to sell this team ASAP to an ownership group that isn’t interested in simply building a real estate development in a slumping economy. He needs to sell to an ownership group that is serious about seeing the team succeed on the court, while turning a profit in a modern, money-making arena. That’s why we as Nets fans have to insist on a move to the Prudential Center (and a hopeful sale of the team) to the Devil’s ownership ASAP. It’s the only way the team will improve, and the only way to keep them in the region. Enough is enough!

@eLone

I’m pretty sure Larry Brown didn’t play at the highest level. And oh, look, Eddie Jordan and Sam Mitchell are out there on the sidelines. Look at what playing on the highest level got them.

I don’t disagree that being an ex-player can help, but it’s hardly a prerequisite. If that’s the main basis for your argument, you need to rethink your position.

What an absolute, total mess the Nets franchise has become. They are moving to Brooklyn maybe – and as a result have lost most of their fan base, they have Frank on a long term contract, they traded away RJ for Yi and Simmons, they are out of the playoffs, and what big name player will want to play for them in 2010?

Bright spots? They had a nice draft this year. Harris is an all star. Carter is still Carter. Hayes and Dooling were nice acquisitions. Lopez has huge potential.

See ya next year – have a great summer!

@ eLone
You don’t know much of the history I guess. You forgot how many so called ex player-coaches been fired, if you need the names I can give you some, but I think you know them well.

  Put on the scale all the management-owners mistakes and on the other side put all the L.Franks mistakes and you’ll see how coach will be catapulted in to the space. I understand that you hate the coach, only how blind you can be to blame only one person. There are a monumental screw ups and L. Frank is not part of it.

  I can blame L. Frank in his inability to fight management to do the right thing, I guess he is very loyal to Rod Thorn (I can see why).

I like Rod Thorn and Kiki. They are smart basketball guys, and I’ve always felt that they were pressured to make moves that weren’t always best for the team (Rod more so than Kiki). I don’t know how Frank has kept his job this long, but I think if the team is going to move forward with the talent they have the need to get rid of him

I don’t want to place all the blame on Frank, but in a results-oriented profession, one has to wonder how he’s been able to hold onto his job for so long. I think RATner knows he can keep Frank here on the cheap, instead of signing a bigger name. Since RATner came on board, he’s been all about cutting costs, not upgrading the team to be a title contender. Sometimes I think that the worst thing that could have happened to we long-suffering fans was to have the team have those magical 2 years of success all the way to the NBA Finals. It left us wanting more, and with RATner, his concern was mediocrity and real estate. Again, we need the team to move to Newark now! That’s the only way we’ll have a real shot at future success, and RATner needs to sell the team now! I’m tired of an inferior product on the court in an inferior facility/ location.

I don’t put all the blame on Frank, but I think his players have stopped listening and for a coach that’s the sure sign of time to go. I loved Eddie Jordan. He’s available and I think he’ll do a great job, especially with the young players.

I agree wit Morpheus…we all got spoiled by the two back to back finals years…that brief brush with success and greatness left us with the taste of the finest champagne in our mouths, only for the Rat to come along and offer us a 24 case of Milwaukee’s Best!!!!!!!!!

i hope ratner sells in the offseason.

frank needs to go.

let a new coach come in and start fresh in newark!!! we need change!

It would be unfair to blame Frank for the last 2 games. Could Eddie Jordan have inspired a 30-42 team to go to 32-42? I doubt it. I hope no one thinks that yelling loudly at Yi in English would make him play any differently or that yelling at Ryan Anderson would make his 3 point shots go in or that a new coach would inspire VC to actually drive to the hoop. The problem lies in the talent, and mindset of the players, not the coaching.

Frank has blown out the games down the strech for many many times…

the clippers game is the most ridiculous one.

He always plays small ball within 5 minutes to go, and you can see many big men grabbed the offensive rebounds away easily, we cant win it.

I doubt that just Frank alone should take the blame for the Nets doing bad. What about the players that keep on going for wild outside shots such as Yi Jianlian, Bobby Simmons, Ryan Anderson, and Jarvis Hayes? Getting a new coach alone won’t help the Nets, because they also need to have their players shape up as well. As for what I mentioned about the Knicks, only Don Chaney and Isiah Thomas got fired for doing bad while Jeff Van Gundy, Lenny Wilkens, and Larry Brown resigned in the fear that they either didn’t want to coach them anymore for doing so bad or had the fear that they would get fired if they stayed longer. Maybe the logic some are placing on Frank, Mike D’Antoni should be fired as well since they are no better from last season. I still don’t get why Bryon Scott got fired back in 2004 despite the fact that he got the Nets to back to back NBA Finals appearances just because they lost a number of games in a row.

It’s all VC, blame him too old, make too much money, no leadership,not a good captain etc. After all the NJ games, how many assists he got it from Devin, compared with JKidd. How many shots vc drove to the hoop and scored. I hope he get trade to any team, don’t stay at NJ, this team is suck with Devin.
VC – think of who is the starting line-up and which position he is playing, sg or sf in every games
Devin – ballhog and no defense
Lopez – no defence and poor in rebound
Boone – poor free throw
Yi – dreaming
Simmon – in and out rotation
CDR, Ryan and Williams – are they playing today?
Frank – worst coach, any great player he has been developed in his past six year

@mt57
This team has the necessary talent to compete, we’ve seen it throughout the season with great victories and hard fought losses to quality teams. Part of the coach’s job IS to provide his players with a proper mindset, especially when you play @ the Izod which is devoid of excited fans for the most part.

Would EJ get us more wins? Most definitely, if you’ve watched the Wizards, they with consistent ball movement and play decent man-man D, whereas we have been along the bottom liers in pts against and defense overall for the last 3 years. Plus EJ coached his team to the playoffs for those 3 straight years, one of which Gil was out for most of the season, unfortunately they faced the Cavs in all 3 and got knocked out.

Hell yes yelling loudly at Yi would benefit his game, every player has tendencies, such as jacking up shots when none are falling. I suppose Yi’s fault lies in that his game has always come to him easily, especially playing in China where he was dominant and could rain them in from outside, and thus no one stressed the importance of having an inside game. Some coaches try not to yell at their players and just give them reviews like ours does, but in this system Yi is technically doing his job in taking open shots from the perimeter, but Yi knows there are high expectations for him being around NY and he isn’t producing so the stress builds up and he loses confidence. Perhaps if Frank had the balls to make a statement in taking Yi off the bench rather than starting him and play him for 20 min, Yi may have gotten the message and upped his game rather than playing garbage minutes these days.
And no, yelling @ RA to make his 3’s makes no sense, early in the season he was stroking but he hit the rookie wall long ago. But he still finds ways to contribute in rebounding and working inside, which has earned him the starting job.
Vince is older now, he knows he is a threat when he gets inside, but so does any team’s scouting report. Clog the lanes, Vince may pull up or slip around you. His FT’s this year are low bc we all know DH is more effective at drawing fouls in a hurry, no problem. But in games when he’s pissed and amped up you see some vintage VC drives. Maybe, just maybe if the coach implemented more plays to utilize VC’s inside talent rather than drawing plays for perimeter shots he could get inside more?
From a performance standpoint throughout Frank’s tenure, we have been on a free fall, from locker room distractions and disputes to a complete team overhaul, the Nets have been losing more and more games. Ya it’s tough for any coach, but there needs to be a new voice to spark a new perspective and mentality in the locker room, so hopefully the Nets lose badly once again, bye bye Frank, please let the door hit you on the way out.

@ Tal Barzilai
It was actually a mutiny instigated by Kidd who rallied and convinced the team and management to get rid of him. Though never confirmed, ppl with close relations to Kidd said he had problems with Scott’s coaching, and demanded his firing or he would demand a trade.

LFrank must go. AND they might do it, after the season ends. But maybe they won’t. Consider these—————
Two issues: 1-Who will replace him? AND How much will it COST them, to dump LFrank before his contract is up?

BUT THE BIG QUESTION HAS TO BE:

How do they stop losing so much money. Did any of you read the financials that have been floating around? Ratner’s “share” of the losses…80 million dollars. Just HIS SHARE? Overall losses——300 Million Dollars. Folks, they didn’t dump RJ to clear cap space, to sign a big free agent in 2010-2011….They dumped RJ because they have got to find a way to stop losing all this money. They dumped RJ to save payroll. NETS Management is going back to the partners, to get more money to dump into this black hole. When do the partners, other than Ratner, say ENOUGH!!!! The team on the court is bad enough, but the losses on the balance sheet are
just hard to believe. How can they continue? I am not a finance guy or an investment guy, but how do you continue in a business that loses this kind of money????

@Paul Erstein,

Amen!

Move to Newark now and sell this team to someone who actually cares about the team!

I don’t like em because he doesn’t CDR enough….the only first team all-american on the dang team !

play CDR…

how do you have devin harris and vince carter and still suck smh.

The nets should try and get Avery Johnson as a head coach.

Take Frank out of the picture and BAM he’s non-factor. Vince Carter will still be there with people thinking he still has it and is still selling tickets. We need a hole shape up except for Lopez, Harris, Dooling, Hayes, Simmons.

Yes I hope they get rid of Frank, he is so annoying. Lots of gameplans know-how but doesn’t know how to use his players and poor game adjustment. What’s good now is Eddie Jordan is available. Hope we can afford him.

um no,
he REALLY IS ALL THE PROBLEM. and i could go on pages explaining that. but basically, Frank can’t motivate or teach defense. period.

In the locker room before a game Frank says “I dont care if you win or lose im taking all of you out for icecream no matter what!”

At this point the smart thing is to sitdown DEVIN "LET THE

SHOULDER HEAL COPLETELY’.

say goodbye to frank ,no disrespect but this team does

not play defense at all

get a high draft .

Frank is a good video man and I wish he goes back to that role. Making him the coach just does make sense. How can you actually teach these guys when he has never played the game. How can he get into the face of these guys which they need from time to time when he has no gravitas to do so. A coach should have credibility to his player that’s why for a long time I was campaigning for Bill Lambeer. Lambeer has won an NBA title. He has won title as a coach of a WNBA team. Moreover Frank’s fielding of players is questionable, like insisting to play Yi and hindering the development of Anderson and CDR. His late game management is poor. How often does the Nets lose game in the 4th quarter after the team leading on the first 3 quarters. He simply can’t make the grade inspite of hard work and diligence.

I still think that it’s wrong to fire him. He can only make the plays, but the players have to make it happen. They should both equally share the responsibility rather than look for a scapegoat. Would you blame the teacher if the student refuses to do their homework, because that was their responsibility? Some of them really got to start acting like a team otherwise the Nets will never go that far like they did for back to back NBA Finals appearance in 2002 and 2003. If a constantly having new coaches didn’t work for the Knicks, it won’t for the Nets.

more like LAWRENCE STANK!!! …amirite?

@ Tal
The biggest problem with the Nets the last few years has been defense, and Frank, more than once, has stated that this team is not good at and will put less focus on defense. They say defense wins championships, and that is most definitely true. Frank isn’t going to lead us anywhere in the playoffs, we need a new coach who brings a defensive system and who values that system unlike Frank. This team is young, our veterans know it is a business, a coaching change shouldn’t be an issue if they make the move during the summer and not wait to fire him in the first month. And yes I think some blame may go to the teacher if the student refuses to do his work, a teacher’s job is also to stimulate the learning mind.

after frank started with that 13 game winning streak in 04(everyone thought he was god then including me)its been down hill since.i wanted him gone last year but gave him another chance bc this team was suspose to win 20 games and they were playing well in nov.but since their 2nd lost to the wiz at home and that clipper debacle i want this guy out if this guy is coach next year im getting rid of my season tixs(jk) but why thorn keeps giving this guy a pass is befuddling

@ Tal

It isn’t really about the students not doing their homework. In a league like the NBA…the teacher needs to inspire the students to give their best effort and do their homework. Do you think any Nets player would dare to not put in more effort against the Bucks if Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich were coaching? I highly doubt it. I’m not saying the players are not to blame…but the coach needs to go now. I’ve tried really hard this year to give him the benefit of the doubt…but it is clear Frank’s personality is not enough to inspire the team on many nights…hence why I think its time for a change. I’m sure Frank will land another NBA gig very soon if he gets fired.

Finally!!! Fire Frank!!!

Thorn has officially given Frank his ultimatum. And that’s shocking how Frank devotes 70% of his practices to defense….WTF? But Thorn hit the nail on the head, we have not improved in defense all year, and now we’re getting worse perhaps due to the fact that our D has taken a trip back to the future in the delorean and will meet us there after Frank leaves.

Brook may have been the front runner for ROY if not for Frank.

@ NateDD

Can you tell me your source for the Frank ultimatum from Thorn and Frank’s devotion of 70% of practice to D?

@ NateDD

Disregard the above question.

CDR may have been the front runner for ROY if not for Frank.

I really think Brook was gonna be in the ROY running regardless of what team he was on. Ppl say Frank did a hell of a job developing his talent…But ppl also fail to remember that had Boone not gone down and Swift as well, Brook would most likely have never taken the starting role, but rather he was desperately thrust into the role and it worked wonders. Plus he’s has great mentors on the team and from other teams such as Duncan and of course DWade himself! If anything, Frank has stymied Brook because the only touches he gets are off pick and rolls for a dunk or shot, and even then he’s only putting up about 10 shots/game when we all see that he is a force down low, and only 20! Plus, had he his partner in crime grabbing rebounds instead of hovering around the 3pt line…ahem Yi you suck ahem…then he wouldn’t have to work so hard to get a rebound amongst the other teams’ bigs.

Oh and he’s developed Harris? All he did was unleash a cheetah out of its cage, Harris had all the necessary skills and attributes coming into the season: his speed, and a decent midranger. So giving credit to Frank for basically letting Harris do whatever he feels is completely inane imo. Oh and please consider that Harris has shown no flashes of being the defensive PG that we had seen flashes of last season. If you from a great defensive player in Avery’s system to a poor-mediocre one in Frank’s, there’s gotta be some explainin to do.

“If you from a great defensive player in Avery’s system to a poor-mediocre one in Frank’s, there’s gotta be some explainin to do.”

Everyone is a poor-mediocre defender in Frank’s system.

Garbage in, garbage out