thats why all these so called nba experts dont know what theyre talking about when they say Carter will be dumped on another team for nothing.

the nets will only deal carter if it benefits them. If not, they will keep him.

If the nets can move Simmons and Anderson for a solid player, they will have plenty of salary cap space to sign Carlos Boozer. Plus all the draft picks we have, we can build for the future and win at the same time.

harris, carter, yi, boozer, lopez.

Like I mentioned last week! We have a very reasonable payroll. The only over paid player is Simmons. Therefore, there is no reason we need to get rid of Vince’s contract. How young do we need to get? Every team needs some veterans to win.

Good. Let’s keep Vince, and I’ll keep my tickets.

Vince stays.
Simple.
Nets Management cannot afford to, Ratner cannot afford to trade him.
Off-season, different story.

look at my last post in the VC thread regarding getting Marvin Williams in free agency. I think he is going to be a very very good player – and can be had for much cheaper than a max type player. The fact that Atlanta is an absolute mess and they are also cost cutting – along with the economic reality that we are in – this could be a prime move for the Nets to make.

A core of DH, VC, M Williams, Yi and Lopez would be great. And the bench would be one of the best and most deep in the league.

Marvin Williams is so underrated because of who was drafted immediately after him. Like him a lot.

we can go down to a roster payroll of $5 and still lose money it seems. you gotta spend in this business or else you will never have a chance to make any money.

if brooklyn was more along i think people could deal with a salary dump because of the big pipe dream that is 2010, but brooklyn isnt a sure thing and i think many people do not think big time FA will come to play in the swamp (me included) so we want something FOR vince instead of cap space that we HOPE bosh and/or lebron take up

I love the idea of getting Marvin Williams, he is an effecient scorer and a very solid defensive player. He’s not flashy, but he’s one of the most effecient players in basketball who knows how to play the game. On the other hand, I still want to trade Carter, because Carter isn’t getting any better. He’s been one of my most favorite Nets for the past 4-5 years, but for VC’s interest as well as the Nets, its best if we trade him to a contender and give him a shot to get a ring, while we can get some quality young players and cap releif that will help us bring in better free agents. This team already has 2 future superstars (Brook and DH), so unlike the other teams who are trying to shed salary, they still have a fallback option if they can’t land any bidtime free agents. If the Knicks can’t sign a big free agent in 2010, their franchise is going to go back to their old Isiah Thomas ways. On the other hand, if the Net can’t sign a big time free agent, they can always add a couple of quality starters and bench players and still be strong, becuase we already have future superstars in the making. But in order for that to happen, VC has to go so that we have the money to get players. I know that the Nets have a low payroll, but if trading VC means that I can get 2 above average players earning 8 millino per year as compared to Carter by himself making 16 million per year, I would rather take the 2 quality starters.

no reson to trae vince we are already tooooo young
devin needs vince
plese dont trade vc!!!!!!!!!!!!

Was just thinking of this – maybe Ratner CAN’T trade VC right now. This is totally a flipped out way of thinking – but look at it this way. Ratner is essentially on his hands and knees begging for the stimulus money to get Brooklyn done. From a political standpoint – there will be a lot of politicians who will want to see this arena get developed with stimulus funding – as they can point to how instrumental they were in getting this project done, how many jobs it created (don’t forget this is all the construction jobs, then jobs within the arena in concessions, ushers, security, maintenance, etc), local restaurants that are opened, more public transit and police jobs, etc. The list goes on and on. So politically there is a lot of politcal goodwill (ie. political gain) for them to get this project done.

But politicians are still salesmen. They will have to sell this idea. It is a much easier sell if you are selling a team that has a household name (VC) than if you have a team of young rookies and players with little name recognition. If this is the case – Ratner might have to bar Thorn from trading VC under any circumstance – because he needs VC’s name recognition to secure stimulus money.

If you are Ratner, which is a better investment – $30 million owed to VC over the next couple of seasons or receiving close to $100 million or more in stimulus dollars, along with tax credits, 0% interest, etc.

This is definitely a very round about way of looking at this – but this is something that could be an actual real consideration. Remember the Yankees of the 80s – they sucked. And never got a stadium built even with Steinbrenner constantly talking about moving to Jersey….Winning teams or at least competitive teams with superstars are an easier political sell than losing teams with no superstars. Realize we are in unprecedented times with the economy, the bank bailouts, the stimulus package. Maybe he has a political reason to hold onto VC to further his development project in BK – which was his real intention all along.

Hedo Turkoglu is going to be a free agent…how much would he cost?

And the more I think about it – the more I like the idea of targeting Marvin Williams this summer. He would be an ideal fit on this roster – especially with the team that they are trying to establish……

it’s tough. financially speaking, it’s why i support a move to brooklyn. regardless of how much money nets have available under the cap, i think it’s hard to attract top notch free agents while still in the meadowlands but even if you do, hit one bad season and it immediately turns into cost cutting moves and you have to start over.

VC looks really good tonight. would he be playing if any trade was imminent?

@NI

Did RT/Kiki put you up to writing this article? Lol.

Its a good article, but you forget we have a cheapo owner…he only cares about one thing…being cheap.

It’s obvious the Nets will not be moving to Brooklyn so Ratner has demanded management trade Vince and he can save all the money he can and then sell the team this summer.

the article has a fallacy: Ratner’s idea of cheap cannot be measured against the league – the lowest may not be low enough. 60 million is still a great deal of money. so is 50 million….

You know, you could have said all this in 3 sentences.

Their payroll is 62. Next year it’ll be 59. Now stop being so damn cheap, or sell the damn team.

See? Easy.

And where they rank in payroll is almost irrelevant in this case, given Ratner’s problems.