Too many turnovers..lazy passes..poor defense= nets lost

Nets go small in the second quarter and get outscored 38 – 21. Game over.

They tried to play like GS 2nite
Brook had 19 in the first half
Brook should have gotten the first shot of the 3rdQ
I dont understand why KiKi wouldnt go to the tallest and most talented person.
too many drives by little guards
Brook should have been posted deep all night
2 points in the 2nd half
KiKi and Del get an F for tonight

i told u so, small ball = lose. Kiki still can’t learn a lesson.

LACK

Very frustrated by this!! Brook 2 points in the second. Tsk tsk (shaking head)… And can we please get someone who is imposing on defense who can maybe intimidate or knock someone down, Rod? You mentioned a moose, well where is he?

Coutney Lee led the team in assists tonight with 3. Hum, I wonder why we lost. How can a team play 3 point guards in a game at the same time and you 2 guard has the most assists (3)??

@ JArkid

I now see what ur saying…this small ball nonsense needs 2 end. WHen yi gets back, that means less minutes 4 boone (thank god) yi is significantly more productive then boone. Boone is useless…

OMG DEVIN HARRIS SUCKS! he is not an allstar. he had 0 assists. i hope we can get john wall in draft. there is no way we get BIG FREE AGENT THIS SUMMER

We miss “Yi for 3” can anybody shoot a 3 ball. CLee is so overrated, trade him now before his value sinks even lower.

12 assists.

Tyler Hansborough 13 and 11 tonight. Just saying.

This is Golden State!
I dont see why they were lazy passing especially in 2nd and 3rd where they came back and killed us.

Brook really needs to stop the talking with the ref while the game is going on when he is pissed!

TWill 0 and 0 tonight. Just saying great draft Rod.

Concurrence on the Moose request. C’mon Rod, you lied to us.
Our “4’s” (whether it’s Boone or Yi) are complete wussification. They can’t shoot, so we might as well get a huge strong Block of granite that can rebound, and beat the crap outta people.
And Courtney Lee. Are you kidding? (His stat line might look decent…) but he got so burned tonight. He is neither reliable on offense or defense(which really, was all we needed from him.

Another step closer to John Wall or Greg Monroe. I like Monroe myself..

Not that it matters but Devin threw an ally oop to Brook so I don’t no how he didn’t record an assist.

Harris 2 assists. Monroe wont go that high.

Oh Yeah! and who is C.J. Watson??

burgerking,

Other than Wall, who do you think will be the top picks? Monroe looks like a top 5 pick to me..

I find it remarkable that people are saying Boone sucks after this game. Boone was +6. That means the Nets were -22 when Boone was on the bench. Since almost all of Boone’s minutes came along side another big man, and I don’t recall seeing any other two big combinations, the Nets were roughly -22 when playing small ball.

Maybe Monroe will be top 5, but the way things are going the Nets should be top 3 I believe. On Monroe, I have to admit I haven’t seen him play much but what I have seen wasn’t too impressive. And he looks like a low energy guy, not what the Nets need. Too early too think draft… And Boone is playing well and within himself. He is not a starter though.

Pinetar: I agree re Josh Boone, he played well. However, he is not a scorer. Note on Brook’s turnovers, he reminds me of a quarterback who holds onto the ball too long. He does that often and he is stripped of the ball way too many times.

Devin had 2 assists. I think the mistake he made was trying to win this game all by himself. I mean he was thrown to the floor about ten times. It’s admirable but it doesn’t really help.

burgerking,

I root for the Nets every game. But I am already looking to next year. Monroe looked real good last night against Butler. He’s a big man with all the tools. He would look good next to Brook.

I expect the “veteran” Rafer Alston to set the example and not throw lazy passes every gat dang play!!!! GAH! So frustrating. PUT IN DOOLING!

It was a great night if you needed steals in your fantasy league and you owned any Warrior.

What is with all the courtney lee hate. Since he has been back he has played a lot better tonight 6-12 and gettin a lot of rebounds. Yes Devin needs more assists but no one is finishing for him. Brook has to limit the turnovers because he makes errant passes from the post. Also we need to hit 3s (court lee needs to take them) so we can avoid the double team in the post. This team will find its way. Kiki will learn the small lineup doesn’t work. Cannot wait to have Jarvis and Yi back from some 3 point shooting and some heart. Whatever we know we can win now maybe its better off we lose this game. DID ANYONE SEE JOHN WALL TONIGHT?!?!?!?!

we need twill!!!!!!

Yes the record says they are bad but looking at NBA.com the Nets are dead last in shooting %, 3 point shooting % and assists.

Fire Kiki!

And Del!

Hollah!

Stop the blame game on CLee, Boone, etc. We lost because of lazy turnovers in the 2nd. Errant passes were getting picked off and we didn’t adjust to their aggressive defense. They need to find different ways of feeding the ball into the paint, defenses are now jumping those lazy passes from the wing

should have got psycho-T or omri casspi

There are turnovers and then there’s throwing the ball right into the opposing players hands.

This team lacks cohension so much. From stories about TWill only hanging out with CDR and Lee to quotes from CDR and now Alston about teammates not supporting each other. This is not a group of guys who like each other

like i said b4 the game started, if we couldnt stop ellis and magette, in this case watson, we would loose

warriors guards: 73 points total

warriors fowards and Center: 31 points total

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Nets guards: 52 points total

Nets foward and Center: 37 points total

were in this world was our defense, once again it shrined by its absence. even mikky moore looked like a pro last night
16-7 and 1 block…

@ muwu – Trade them all!

In the pre-game thread yesterday, I posted:

GSW leads the league in steals and turnovers forced and points off turnovers. Nets lose if they are as sloppy as they sometimes are. When B-Lo gets the ball, he needs to move quickly to the hoop with it and not let the guards sag on him and strip the ball. Nets guards also must stop penetration.

It’s not like I am a professional scout. These things were blindingly obvious. But all of the things they had to avoid, they committed. Very poor mental preparation.
Sean Williams could not have looked more lost out there if he were blindfolded.

2 and 20 is good if you’re a hedge fund but awful for a sports franchise.

I also have to point out DH was -25 and Alston +6. DH had 2 assists to 4 TO, which is unforgivable for a veteran PG.

We r hurting. Those two wins temporarily covered up the major problems with this team. At times, the defense was completely non-existent. Kiki and Del still have work to do to get this team on the right foot.

Normally I look for the amount of minutes Boone and a 2nd big (Swat or Battie) play compared to Hassell and Simmons but last night in the little time Hassell was in, I have never seen such pathetic play in such a short time. We’re up 20-11, Boone comes out for Hassell and before you know it we’re up only 29-27 by the time he comes out 6 minutes later. So who does Kiki bring in CDR!. Microball time, 38-21 2nd qtr., game over. Why people could not see going big against small is better than matching up against small is beyond me. If you going to matchup, who was going to deal with Maggette? He was throwing us around like dolls. Out of 240 minutes there were 70 played by bigs and 170 played by smalls. Kiki can’t rest Boone and Lopez at the same time if he is only going to play 3 of them. Two bigs have to be on the court ALL GAME!

Hopefully Proky comes in soon and cleans out this sorry mess of a team, starting with management.

Does any side win a game when the Nets practice against each other. Or do both sides Lose?

The few times we do have a lead, why does this team settle for a long jump shots, which they can’t make, instead of attacking the basket? Happens every time.

CDR looked exhausted last night. I didn’t see the effort I’ve come to expect out of him.

Rafer Alston threw a slew of sloppy passes too.

Lackadaisical.

This never would have happened in my 2K Sports Franchise!

Losing does this to teams. It will test their character. If they continue to lose at this pace it will get a lot worse. Who wants to play for a team that has no shot of getting to the playoffs and it’s only a quarter way through the season? Half the team knows they won’t be here next year so they don’t feel a need to root or play for each other. They’re playing for themselves. The coach didn’t want to be the coach so how is he going to lead them? The owner can’t afford the team and the entire organization has become no frills. The team has become the butt of jokes all over the place. They’ll get better when Yi and Hayes come back, but this situation won’t get better. Let’s hope next year they can start a new beginning and change this situation.

LOL at BigDavey, mine either! But Rafer wants support from his teammates?! I don’t see a reason for our bench riders to watch Alston suck up minutes and have to go “Nice brick, Rafer, keep it up!” 15 times a night… “Good job turning it over with that playground style dribble, it looked cool for a second there!” Give your teammates something to cheer for and maybe they will. Before the Nate drama started, I remember the Knicks, half the team on expirings and all, really cheering each other on and getting hyped, even in preseason games… And they’re terrible. Sigh… Oh the trials and tribulations of being a nets fan ..

1. There is a relationship between shooting percentage and assists. When someone makes a pass to a wide open shooter who throws up a brick, what should have been an assist goes by the board.

2. The game was lost in the second quarter, obviously, when we gave up a zillion uncontested fast break layups because we were turning the ball over time after time. Brook dribbling against double teams is a recipe for a TO, as is dribbling the ball into the corner and then making a lazy pass out.

3. After seeing one the great blocks ever by Harris, who seconds later took a charge on the same sequence, you can’t question his effort. It’s the NBA block of the night, highlight reel stuff for sure.

4. With everything said, the game could have been won in the fourth quarter. Being at the game (there were hundreds there with me), I didn’t keep count, but it looked like we missed a ton of open shots late after we got it down to five points.

When will Kiki realize that the SMALL BALL doesnt work.

Sometimes you have to make the other team match up to your team. You put 2 bigs you have a 10 pt lead. You go small they pounce on you and you are down by 20. You put 2 bigs you cut through the deficit.

HEY KIKI!!! Put 2 bigs. Yeah Swill isnt ideal, but atleast maggetti wasnt out muscling him.

CDR just threw another pass that got pick off by Watson.

The Nets master plan is to lose games. The more the better. They are counting on getting Wall.

That is the reason you see Kiki going small. We have to lose about 70 games to have the best shot at getting Wall.

They believe that it’s better to lose big, then to be average. Better draft picks, maybe land a franchise player.

Plus, we don’t want to get out-uglied by the Bulls.

KIKI: EPIC FAIL!!!!!

Hollah!

Was discussing this last night at the game with a friend. If you are Kiki you have had probably had discussions thus far with Proky regarding next year. If I were Proky and were keeping either Rod or Kiki I would keep Kiki. I think it is not a coincidence that our drafts have been better since Kiki has been here. I think Rod is a genius poker player when it comes to trades, but I think Kiki is a better judge of talent.

So if you are Kiki and you are sure that you are staying as the GM next season – this season you care about developing your young talent but at the same time you want to get a very high lottery pick. It also does not hurt to showcase Rafer Alston somewhat – as there is no way he is not being dealt by the deadline to a playoff team in need of a PG. Same could possibly be said for Battie.

Kiki looks like a genius if Brook, CDR, Lee, TWill and Yi all make big strides in their development this season and over the summer and Devin continues to play at a high level. If the Nets then get the top pick in the draft and take Wall – he has arguably one of the best (if not the best) young cores (26 and under) to build around and to attract 1 max type free agent, which I believe will be Chris Bosh. He makes more sense for this team than anyone else. Then you save cap space for resigning your young talent, while also being in the position to make a run at Carmelo in 2011. He will have quickly transformed the worst team in the NBA to a perennial Finals team in 2 years. Kiki is in a great position at the moment.

Everybody assumes we are going to draft Wall. What happens if we don’t. Everybody is assuming that we are going to get a great FA. What happens if this does not pan out. The Nets management are dreamers, dreaming their lives away. Bring in a realist, who lives in the real world, not in Nets fantasy land.

Rafer needs to shut his mouth. He is the Vet, why doesnt he start the cheering???
He looked terrible out there
Look at the highlights…. 1st 1/2
http://www.nba.com/games/20091209/GSWNJN/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore

i disagree with anyone’s simple remedy of “just put 2 bigs on the floor.”

Its about matchups. Yes, you want a small lineup of Warriors to matchup to you rather than trying to play small ball with them.

But if the bigs aren’t making a favorable impact for the most of the game, then you have to adjust. We clearly we’re playing well in the beginning with our Boone/Lopez. But the “2 Bigs” lineup didn’t maintain the consistancy needed throughout.

And its not like where trotting Bosh and Lopez out there…or Boozer and Lopez. Its Josh Boone! Its Sean Williams!

Its not that simple guys.

@Justin

I totally agree with your point about Rafer. If he wants to make a positive impact,lead by positive example. Rafer doesn’t. In game after game (before Devin returned and currently) Rafer’s playing decisions were inept and made me wonder about his ability to focus and whether he had the skills to make a positive impact.

Cant take the small ball, had to turn it off. Started watching when they went back to Brook and Josh and the cut in to the league.

Also, please stop with the when Yi and Jarvis get back. Are you kidding me.

Sorry about that. Should read Brook and Josh and cut in to the lead

3 pg’s playing at the same time?!?! Come on Kiki, you’re better than that!

Our Turnovers = Opposing Team Fastbreak points 100% of the time. (Can everyone hustle back and defend)

Brook puts up numbers but so does the player he’s up against. Every center going against Brook Lopez becomes an All-Star that game.