Nets Beat Bulls at the Wire

The Nets got their first road win of the season, holding on to beat the Bulls in Chicago Tuesday night. The Nets took control with a 21-6 run that spanned the first and second quarters, but the Bulls came back to tie it at halftime. The Nets were up 10 at the end of the third quarter, but the Bulls came back again and the game was tight in the closing minutes. Derrick Rose put the Bulls up one with 19.5 seconds left, but Devin Harris answered with 14.9 to go. After John Salmons missed a jumper, Rafer Alston put the Nets up three at the line with 6.1 left. The Nets chose to foul Derrick Rose with 2.1 on the clock and were able to secure the rebound and the victory. Brook Lopez led the Nets with 25 points and 10 rebounds, his 10th double-double of the season. Chris Douglas-Roberts (20 points) was among four other Nets in double-figures. They shot just 3-20 from 3-point range, but were 24-28 from the line and forced 19 Chicago turnovers. Terrence Williams was benched for the entire game, the first time that's happened this season.
- Boxscore - NBA.com
- Game Highlights (Video) - NBA.com
- Nets get first road win, beat Bulls to go to 2-19 - Rick Gano - AP
- Nets pick up first road win of season with 103-101 victory over Bulls - Dave D'Alessandro - Star-Ledger
- Nets reiterate social networking policy - Dave D'Alessandro - Star-Ledger
- Nets bench Terrence Williams following questionable tweets - Dave D'Alessandro - Star-Ledger
- Nets beat Bulls for first road win, improve to 2-19 - Julian Garcia - New York Daily News
- From the Booth (Video) - Ian Eagle & Mike Fratello - YES Network
- Kiki Vandeweghe Press Conference (Video) - YES Network
- Brook Lopez Interview (Video) - YES Network
- Devin Harris Interview (Video) - Jessica Taff - YES Network
- Harris, Nets finish off Bulls - Al Iannazzone - The Nets Insider
- Devin Harris hits clutch basket to lift Nets - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- Nets notes: A fine mess for rookie - Al Iannazzone - The Record
- Chicago Bulls lose to lowly New Jersey Nets 103-101 - Fred Mitchell - Chicago Tribune
- Del Harris helping out another young coach - Fred Mitchell - Chicago Tribune
- Joakim Noah Interview (Video) - WGN
- New Jersey low for Bulls - John Jackson - Chicago Sun-Times
- Coaching change doesn't appear imminent - Mike McGraw - Chicago Daily Herald
- Bulls fall to lowly New Jersey; Rose never gets chance at end - Mike McGraw - Chicago Daily Herald
- Lopez, Harris propel Nets past Bulls - Kent McDill - NBA.com
- Nets hold off Bulls for 2nd win of season - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Nets' rookie Williams in hot water for negative tweets - Fred Kerber - New York Post
- Game 21 Recap: Nets 103, Bulls 101 - Dave D'Alessandro - Star-Ledger
- Time for a show of passion - Melissa Isaacson - ESPN Chicago
- Photo Galllery: Nets vs. Bulls - Gary Dineen - NBA
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I’m glad Kiki used L Frank’s end of game strategy.
If Frank would’ve been coaching, we would’ve screwed that one up somehow someway not to the fault of Frank.
Great win!
by ronnie on Dec 8, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions
Nets won their 2nd game of the season! Woot! Woot!
by LetsGoNets on Dec 8, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions
soooo depressing we only hav 2 wins but we showed fight and beat a good bulls team on the road. now we need to get a winning streak going. LETS GO NETS
by matt on Dec 8, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions
Twill shouldnt play till he actually learns how to be a team player.
Rafer I was liking, I dont think we should trade him he is helping us.
Dooling stuggled but you got to love him.
Battie got some play time, didnt look bad out there.
Boone needs to learn to shoot.
Brook and CDR carried us to a win.
Harris is Harris.
by Randy Oreens on Dec 8, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions
good game..Rose and Harris both stepped up at the end for their teams but Nets hang on. CDR kept the Nets in it when Bulls got on their run in the 4th. Lopez was good as usual. no TWill but guys like Battie, Alston and Dooling played well off the bench. nice game..Kiki 2-1. would of been 3-0 but Nets couldnt execute against the Knicks zone. Good to see some progress tho..hope TWill doesnt get too down from not playing..CDR went throught the same thing last yr and SWill is going through it now..just be patient and he’ll get his shot
by Sean on Dec 8, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions
Good thing we got rid of the jinx, we could have lose this again.
by JuliusIrving on Dec 8, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions
Nets are starting to come out of the cave… Win #2!
by NJNETSfan8712 on Dec 8, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions
I like what Kiki was doing at this game, He played the combination of Boone and Lopez for much of time.
The second unit is Battie + Simmons as 4 and 5. In the final 5 minutes, we played BIG, and we get the winnable win !!
Imagine if Frank has coached the final 5 minutes, he would have gone with Lopez Simmons CDR Harris and Alston, and you know the result ! A loss !
by jarkid on Dec 8, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions
Yeah!!!!! i like what i saw. i just wish Harris was more aggressive…but lopez 25-10 and CDR 20 points. We have our work cut out for us next week…
by The Black Prince on Dec 8, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions
They had me sceaming at the tv at times but thank goodness we got the win
by 1milord on Dec 8, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions
Great team W tonight –
Harris owned Rose tonight
Love Battie getting some burn.
GO Nets
Go Brooklyn
Go Brooklyn Nets
(same old SmartNetsFan)
by NetLogic on Dec 8, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions
Nice win..refs tried to give a lost tonight but CDR and Devin kept us alive in late 4th. GO NETS!
by Fabio on Dec 8, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions
Nice win..refs tried to gave us a lost tonight but CDR and Devin kept us alive in late 4th. GO NETS!
by Fabio on Dec 8, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions
What I liked the most is everyone contributed. Great road win! Go Nets! Warriors tomorrow night, a winnable game?
by Joanne on Dec 8, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions
Lee is being exposed. Not big enough to finish at the rim or get his shot off cleanly. Not quick enough to blow by people. Antoine Wright anyone.
by Tom F on Dec 8, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions
Don’t mean to look at the past but if Frank was the coach we would have lost this game. Great job Kiki. Great job Nets!
by Nets in 2010 on Dec 8, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions
Kiki/Harris did a good job with substitutions. It was a good call to have Brook slow down Rose on that last series to take time off the clock and they were doing a good offense/defense switch at the end of the game to get the best advantage. Fun game to watch.. Now that we’re getting healthy, Better players = Better play. (No Hassell, Twill or Swat).
by supreme on Dec 8, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions
Could we please let Coach Frank go already? Please!!
by Joanne on Dec 8, 2009 10:47 PM EST reply actions
I thought they would lose after that ridiculous fade away jumper at 1:20 by Devin when they were up by 5. Good win. CDR looks like the real deal…
by TheBurgerking on Dec 8, 2009 10:48 PM EST reply actions
A lot of bad shots in the fourth quarter, but got it done at the end. Was TWill being punished, by the way?
by dz on Dec 8, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions
Good job Brook, CDR, and Devin. Tonight no T Will was addition by subtraction. No need to waste missed shots on him in a winnable game. At least he did a good job cheering on the team on the bench instead of sulking about not playing. Maybe he wont take the playing time he get in the future for granted.
by Rich on Dec 8, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions
5 fouls in 15 minutes for 87 year old Battie who’s an expiring contract… Good thing we’re keeping Swat on the bench since he’s a liability!! Seriously though, great team game… 4/5 starters scoring in double digits. Hopefully this serves as punishment enough for TWill and he learns to not tweet everything that pops into his head. A quick apology and move on with the season.
by JB on Dec 8, 2009 10:50 PM EST reply actions
The Nets didn’t deserve to win the way they played the fourth quarter. However, this win should do wonders to get the players on track.
At least TWill won’t be able to say team couldn’t win without him. However, with TWill playing the way he should, it would have been an easy victory.
Nets just don’t have enough good bodies to go 48 minutes and keep a lead. I didn’t think they had a chance in the last few minutes.
Normally, to win, someone has to get hot, if not 2 players.
Nets won this game without any good performance except maybe CDR.
Nets fans shouldn’t get to cocky because Chicago is a bad team right now, except Rose. At least though for now, the Media will lay off the Nets. Kiki is 2 for 3!
by jerry25 on Dec 8, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions
Oh, and does anybody in the NBA review these games after the fact for blown calls?! Even a near-sighted janitor could see the crap the Bulls (and most other teams we play) got away with…
by JB on Dec 8, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions
44 minutes for Battie and Boone combined compared to 18 for Hassell and Simmons. The only reason it was close was cuz CDR gave up a lot of size to Deng. I also love the way Boone knows his role. A few times he was open and didn’t shoot cuz his role is to defend and rebound which he does well. When Yi comes back I’d love for him to play SF and present the problems Deng was able to do against us. Let CDR play SG even thou Lee is comming around I perfer to go with size. I hope Kiki sees the light. Just a reminder I did want to draft Gibson and was the only person this site who ever mentioned him.
by Mr. Big on Dec 8, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions
That’s great. Our guards shoule get BL involved enough.
He is the key to win.
by Skaye on Dec 8, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions
Good team win tonight. Devins runner when we were up by 5 almost gave me a heart attack lol. Courtney Lee will find his game. When he goes to the basket no one cuts to help him out. Also when he starts missing he doesn’t ever find confidence in his jumper. He needs to start hot to stay hot. I loved the coaching tonight. The lineups were great. Devin played less selfish. Also I am glad we drafted Twill over James Johnson. That guy is a bum. Atleast I see some upside in twill. For them, Taj Gibson looked better tonight then anytime I ever saw him in college. This is also the 6th bulls game I watched and first time I saw DRose play decent. Lets make it three tomorrow at home
by Bruce on Dec 8, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions
JB: Ian Eagle made reference to Derrick Rose palming the ball several times and no calls.
by Joanne on Dec 8, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions
Harris was clutch. Brook did exceptional. Very good jobs by Douglas-Roberts and Alston. Solid win.
by JJ on Dec 8, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions
I think T-Will was being punished. He got no time and we saw, if I am not mistaken, Dooling Alston & Harris together. Looks like punishment. Although it may become the norm if he doesn’t improve before my man, Big J, the VC from a parallel D (evil beard) makes his triumphant return.
by Paul B on Dec 8, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions
Nice game – good to see T-Will and his .340 shooting percentage benched. Hopefully soon Jarvis will get back and we can reduce the playing time of Courtney Lee and his .387 shooting.
Continue to be impressed by CDR. He got fouled with about about a minute left that could have given us a little more security. But nice drive by Devin to win the game and nice defense at the end.
by A.S. on Dec 8, 2009 10:57 PM EST reply actions
@ A.S.
We gave up Ryan Andersen and JJ Reddick for that .387 shooting. He’s not going anywhere. For good or bad. They supposedly loved him in Florida, maybe we need to give him time??? (maybe)
by Paul B on Dec 8, 2009 10:59 PM EST reply actions
Also, I love Josh Boone at the PF – if (and only if) you have decent offensive players at the other 4 positions. Josh gives the defense and rebounding the team needs. But you can only afford one non-shooter on the floor at a time.
by A.S. on Dec 8, 2009 11:00 PM EST reply actions
Paul B – agreed, which is why I said that I hope that Jarvis will reduce Lee’s playing time, rather than sending him to the bench altogether (as appears to be the case with T-Will). I am not a huge fan of Jarvis, but at least he’s going to shoot over .400!
by A.S. on Dec 8, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions
Thank goodness TWill was benched. That was a big part of why we won. Kid needs to continue working on his jumpshot but also needs to learn how to control his emotions…. stop it with the Twitter bullshi… Who the heck even uses Twitter anyway? Learn how to be a professional man
by MacGyver on Dec 8, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions
Still hope Nets can somehow get a “keeper” physical PF in a trade involving Alston, 2nd round pick, etc. With more injuries around NBA, a trade could develop.
First they need someone else who could fill in at the PG.
Who is the Nets next point guard? CDR, TWill, Lee or Hassell?
Hope Thorn isn’t reluctant for fear of losing a future draft pick.
by jerry25 on Dec 8, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions
Harris is being unselfish recently, maybe it’s Kiki’s effort on Harris, he controls Harris well.
by jarkid on Dec 8, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions
@ jerry25
We have Alston, and Dooling, it’s enough.
by jarkid on Dec 8, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions
Was at the game tonight, one of only 2 Nets fans in attendance (the other was my wife). Hoarse as hell for yelling throughout, but it was a great game to be watching.
The team is better than their record, I think they just need a bit more confidence and they’ll win more games like this down at the wire.
by David on Dec 8, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions
Paul B: Love Lee from the Knicks, double-double every game and he’s a team player. Would love to have him here.
by Joanne on Dec 8, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions
YYYYYEEEEEEAHHHHHH what a game!!!
CDR is really something special. as is Harris.
this game had me cheering and yelling all the way through…
C Lee is a keeper. even Boone’s strengths were showing. he plays good D.
lately Lopez has been being used very effectively — my 2nd favorite player right behind CDR.
Rafer Alston had a great game.
hilarious when Ian says “LOOK OUT BELOW” as Lopez delivers a…. layup.
we absolutely HAD TO win the 3rd quarter, and we did, by by 10 points. that is getting the job done, and we made the Bulls look hapless in the process. maybe they are hapless. but watching guys like CDR, I’m inclined to give credit to the Nets for being the better team.
Bulls came out with intensity to start the 4th with a 9-0 run … it looked like they could possibly get control of the game and steal it.
props to D Rose for hitting that running floater to put the bulls up 1 with :19 left. and Devin with the answer with :14 left. does watching basketball get better than this?
great end-game strategery giving the foul with 2.1 left
I really enjoy listening to Mike Fratello’s perspective. great analyst. he gives you a better understanding of the game with his insights. he can explain how a play went well or badly in the most concise way.
over all this was a well-fought, entertaining game with two evenly-matched teams.
by J Tallent on Dec 8, 2009 11:32 PM EST reply actions
Lee at PF? Not Going to happen. The Nets are in love with Yii.
by KJV on Dec 8, 2009 11:33 PM EST reply actions
MacGyver said
“Who the heck even uses Twitter anyway?”
uuhh…Almost everyone with a cell phone or a computer.
by KJV on Dec 8, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions
I really start to like Kiki. The last minutes where he had the 5 guys in there was perfect. Boone wasn’t doing so well with the miss rebounds, he sends in Battie. CDR was hot he was going to him. Overall great coaching by Kiki and Del Harris. It seem the Nets are playing with the passion to win games.
by Seeker on Dec 9, 2009 12:01 AM EST reply actions
Lee played well. His shooting percentage is just part of the equation. That layup after the CDR steal was clutch…and difficult.
Hayes is an expiring contract. He will not get much playing time. He is playing behind CDR. He is unlikely to be able to contribute for a while. Lee is part of the team’s long term plans. Just because he was hurt and isn’t shooting well doesnt mean the team is going to sacrifice playing time for his long term success.
by Net Income on Dec 9, 2009 12:08 AM EST reply actions
When Yi and Jarvis come back we will be able to put away teams like this. Boone played a great game, no doubt, but there were maybe 3 or 4 chances he had to take an open jumper from fairly close. I know he was sticking to his role and letting the scorers score, but had it been Yi those would have been relatively easy bucket (granted Boone was probably open for a reason). That being said we will soon get back two good shooters. There’s a lot of talent on this team. A lot of veterans (Dooling, Hayes, Battie, Alston, Simmons) good young players (Harris, Lopez, CDR) and players with huge potential (Lee, Yi, TWill. Once Lee starts firing consistently like he did against Charlotte I’ll enter these games confident of winning almost every time.
by Will J on Dec 9, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions
Hayes will get burn when he comes back. He brings instant offense. I think Alston will be traded so Dooling can be the back up pg and hayes the second shooter to play with either CDR lee or harris
by ben on Dec 9, 2009 12:22 AM EST reply actions
I’m not sure if Hayes gets to play when he comes back. I wouldn’t be too sure of that. I hope so, but I doubt it.
by Gerard Himself on Dec 9, 2009 12:53 AM EST reply actions
The future is bright. And don’t get too down on TWill. The guy has potential. A couple weeks ago everyone loved him. Now most people hate him. He made a mistake. He has not played well of late – but in fairness never has had a true role. One game PG. One game PF, etc. He is a rookie after all. His future is his versatility and he is a nice piece to add to the puzzle. What does worry me though – is that before the draft (and at Louisville) he was very committed to passing and playing defense – and in the NBA he is more committed to trying to score….
by Ryan243 on Dec 9, 2009 1:15 AM EST reply actions
I don’t think CDR would be as good when he is the go to guy.
His biggest strength is playing sneaky basketball.
by netsball on Dec 9, 2009 1:17 AM EST reply actions
Ryan243
I never liked TWill….everything that was talked about this kid, court savvy, basketball IQ, great D….i haven’t seen any of it…not even for a second.
He has been awful and hope he learns from his outburst about nj and its fans and stop pointing fingers at others then himself.
like i’ve been saying since start of preseason..this kid is going to need time…he is talented, but not talented enough to be playing right now…
and to all of u saying he is the next d-wade or this great defensive stopper, that just shows you how easy some of us get caught up in hype.
it’s like most of u saying how SWat is a stud after a 20 min played 2 blocks game, just doesn’t make much sense.
go nets
by netsball on Dec 9, 2009 1:26 AM EST reply actions
This team is much better than the record indicates…
We are probably in for a surprise this year when Yi returns! Kiki is gonna make this guy better and give him a bigger role on the team!
Ohh and we should have take Earl Clark over TWill.. TWill cant shoot a penny into the ocean…
by JayMS on Dec 9, 2009 2:20 AM EST reply actions
I really think now that Harris is starting to get better, the Nets are too. CDR has been good all year, but he is much better with Harris starting to regain his game as well. That’s why Lopez is getting better numbers too.
Obviously, this all coincides with Frank’s firing and other players returning as well. But, lots has to do with Harris- even if he isn’t scoring consistently yet he changes the game.
by NiceBull on Dec 9, 2009 2:25 AM EST reply actions
Also… everybody should relax on TWill bashing, since when are all rookies going to break out like D Rose or D Wade or Lebron. Most rookies need time to figure the NBA game out. In the old days, he would be on the bench most games as a rookie anyway.
by NiceBull on Dec 9, 2009 2:30 AM EST reply actions
I realy like a back court of Harris and CDR. Brook is already as talented as I wanted him to be by his 5th year. In my opinion Yi is a SF.
Shoots , plays he perimitor. He doesn’t rebound or play tough in the paint.
If we were able to pick up a David Lee or a Carlos Booser to a one year deal (not to mess up the salery cap for 2010) we would have a very BIG , tough front court and a solid back court.
Just imagine :
1. Harris. (Dooling) (Alston)
2. CDR (C.Lee) (Hayse)
3. Yi (T.Will)
4. (Boone) (Swat)
5. Lopez (Battie)
this team , healthy in 2009 would’ve made lots of noise but apparently it’s about real estate ventures instead. What a shame.
by Dan the Fan on Dec 9, 2009 2:34 AM EST reply actions
Great win!
Brook and CD-R were great, as usual. Love to see Devin hitting that clutch shot.
Battie is a washed up bum. 5 fouls in 15 minutes, had Swat done that some posters here would be bashing him, LOL… Btw, Kiki hasnt played Swat since he took over… as much as I’d love to see him getting some PT over Battie, i have little faith he will get significant minutes this year…
If you expect Lee to be more than a role player, you will be disapointed. He will have some explosions (like the one he had against the ‘Cats) from time to time, but he’s just not that talented. I love his strengths tho, I think he’ll be a solid role player for us.
I agree w/ Mr Big, I also love the way Boone knows his role. I think he does an underrated defensive job and give us some needed rebounding ability. He’s our best rebounder, period.
by Andrés on Dec 9, 2009 4:45 AM EST reply actions
wow thx God we won!!!
i couldnt hold my breath all game long :D
by mr. omG on Dec 9, 2009 6:24 AM EST reply actions
Good game!
DH looks much better when he is not throwin up wild jumpers (only 2 tonite)
Brook will be an allstar this year!
CDR is MIP
Lee has to keep attacking
Boone needs to shoot 1000 12’ jumpers a day
Rafer has his legs back! Limited minutes suit him better
Twill needs to sit and watch for a few games, maybe call his momma so she can tell him he is only a rookie and has to work for minutes now. Oh and SHUT UP!
KiKi is doing a good jod
We need Yi, sad to say it…. Yi is the key, he will create more space
1st streak of the season?
by DJ HeavyDuty on Dec 9, 2009 7:52 AM EST reply actions
BTW
Ryan Andreson would look great on this team
we have too many guards
by djheavyduty on Dec 9, 2009 8:06 AM EST reply actions
@Dan the fan
SWAT has no roll on this team what so ever. Maybe you’ll see him getting 5 minutes here or 5 minutes there, but he’ll never amount to anything in the NBA.
by Nets in 2010 on Dec 9, 2009 8:12 AM EST reply actions
@Jarkid
You miss the point about Nets having enough PG.
We need a physical true PF. Alston is only one with trade value (expiring contract) and Nets can live with getting rid of Alston, if not help club as long as someone else could be 3rd point guard.
Thorn has to be willing to deal at least a 2nd round draft pick also.
Nets don’t have enough horses to make it 48 minutes. Nets are short of big men and need to get TWill back to where he was headed earlier to round out team.
by jerry25 on Dec 9, 2009 8:30 AM EST reply actions
even though brook scored 25, i think we could have fed him the ball more. especially in the 4th when we went through those long dry spells. can’t win by depending on the outside j in the 4th quarter.
chicago broadcast team has to be the worst in sports. those guys have remarkably little to say about the game of basketball. listening to them makes me appreciate even more the great talents the nets have in the booth.
by PA Net on Dec 9, 2009 8:37 AM EST reply actions
I have the feeling that we’ll end up get nothing more than a 2nd rd for Alston at best. I wish we could pry away a late 1st rounder from a contender. Unloading Najera’s contract w/ him would be great, but I can’t see any team taking on Eddie’s deal… Skip is not worth it.
All you dellusional people who think we’re getting a "keeper" physical PF for him need to wake up. First off nobody will give you anything really valuable for a half a season rental of a 33 year old PG who will be a FA next summer. And I hate to break your dreams but Nets ain’t taking on a longer contract, so that kills most of the trade value Skip’s expirer could have, and that also means whoever they get for him won’t be a “keeper”, but a cap filler.
Like Dave D said a couple of days ago: “The trick, of course, is finding another team that can absorb Alston’s $5.25 million salary, because the Nets will not take back any contract that exists beyond this season.”
by Andrés on Dec 9, 2009 8:40 AM EST reply actions
It looks like somebody has actually told the players what their role is, and how to play that role when they are out on the court. Amazing…
As for Terrence Williams, he should be suspended, then sent to the “D” league. We don’t need any more jerks on this team.
by Mike on Dec 9, 2009 8:54 AM EST reply actions
First off.. what was with those late whistles?
After all the Donaghy claims, I’m watching the game a little bit closer.. and it looked the refs wanted Chicago to win, but the Bulls, other than Rose, just suck.
Secondly, C.Lee is making me a fan. I don’t care about the shooting.. the defense, hustle, drives, etc. are what are winning me over. Harris, Lee, CDR and Lopez all showed some true fight last night, and Lee stood out to me the most.
Otherwise…. we need a PF badly.. even after Yi gets back. Taj Gibson of all people killed us.
Alston.. props to him. He actually played under control and hit his shots.
by Jack Handy on Dec 9, 2009 9:04 AM EST reply actions
Just cuz Lee has a long term contract doesn’t mean he deserves PT. PT does NOT increase talent. I’ll even go so far as to say that hard work is overrated in sports in general. It’s different in the real world cuz hard work will lead to increased production but in sports people think hard work will increase talent. Imo it doesn’t. I don’t believe that TWill shooting 1000 jump shots or Yi with a strength program or Boone coming early to shoot FTs will ever make much of a difference. One reason players get better when they are young is as they get older their bodies mature which could increase their talent. I believe hard work will keep you sharp and conditioned but won’t increase your talent. I laugh when I hear people talk about the development of players. Most of the time it’s about an opportunity to reveal their talent or lack of it.
by Mr. Big on Dec 9, 2009 9:07 AM EST reply actions
“I’ll even go so far as to say that hard work is overrated in sports in general.”
This has to be one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read. No debate required…lol
by supreme on Dec 9, 2009 9:44 AM EST reply actions
I loved how Devin Harris looked to get others involved early. He controlled the tempo, pushed the ball when he should have and only took a couple of bad shots throughout the entirety of the game.
by Dirt on Dec 9, 2009 9:45 AM EST reply actions
What a strange game. Their starters wind up with good plus/minuses and ours vice versa. Bobby Simmons has a plus 17 in only 13 minutes while missing all his shots (as usual). Winning ugly.
by mt57 on Dec 9, 2009 9:50 AM EST reply actions
Nice Win, but Kiki still needs to work on his coaching.
Why is lee not looking at video tape of the bobcat’s game? who do you blame for him not moving without the ball, coming off screens and picks, and trying to lose his defender? I dont like what he or they are doing with him. He should be running around like a mad man.
by SIC on Dec 9, 2009 9:52 AM EST reply actions
Yeah Dirt; Maybe Devon is starting to grow up. Team leader must set the example, otherwise you become team chump.
by Mike on Dec 9, 2009 10:00 AM EST reply actions
@Jack Handy.. U MUST be a Die Hard C Lee Fan 2 Say HE STOOD out Most When D Harris, B Lo, and CDR WERE the Players that CARRIED us 2 The W..C lee is a “good” Player..But He doesn’t Seem 2 Wanna Take The Pressure Shots..Hed Make a GREAT 6th Man, playing as 1st Option on 2nd Unit..CDR is a Much Better SG than SF although U can’t Deny He’s BEen Playin GR8 at the 3 also..Overall Our Team Looks To Be IMPROVING…LETS GO NETS! WIN vs WARRIORS!
by The GM on Dec 9, 2009 10:02 AM EST reply actions
Lee’s shooting has been bad all season, but the rest of his game has been solid. He definitely deserves playing time. You cant only look at one aspect of a basketball game. I also find it funny Battie gets 5 fouls in 15mins and ppl say he had a “solid game”, If Swat did the same thing he’d be getting trashed all over the site and we’d be hearing “u cant just get blocks and thats it”.
by TheMann on Dec 9, 2009 10:40 AM EST reply actions
I thought this was Devin’s best game of the year so far. His shot selection was much improved and he made a concerted effort to get others invloved. I don’t want to see Devin taking a ton of shots unless he has got it going on early. Boone seems like he is growing up as well. His rebounding and defense have been pretty consistent. I thought everyone else looked pretty good yesterday as well and they can and will play better.
by Chris2 on Dec 9, 2009 10:41 AM EST reply actions
Shooting percentage is a funny thing. You almost have to grow into your role and understand your place on the team before you can shoot well. Having a fluid offense helps a ton and if you are playing off the talents of a star it will always help your percentages. Brook’s percentages have been going up and its no surprise because the offense is more strucutured and he is getting feeds of the drives of Harris. Lee is struggling shooting wise because he has the responsibility of creating his own shot unlike last season and the defense is collapsing down low like they did with Dwight leaving him open looks. He won’t be a star, but he will be a nice role player who I believe will rise to the occassion in big games. I remember Kevin Durant shot below 40% for the vast majority of his rookie season, so its clear young players need to learn what their capabilities/limitations are and then adjust their play to fit within themselves before they can maximize their talents.
by Chris2 on Dec 9, 2009 10:49 AM EST reply actions
@TheMann
So…it’s ok to trash Battie for getting five fouls and you can ignore the rest of his game then? Pot, meet kettle.
by Anthony on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM EST reply actions
Nice W last nite.
1. Nets overcome 3 previous horrendous possessions with Devin’s runner.
2. Kiki goes big at end game 2-0; Kiki goes small 0-1
3. Hate to say it but when Clee goes to the hole he gets his shot blocked more than anyone Ive seen since Antoine who used to lead league in that category although that backward over the head lay up off the steal was a classic “no no no no how did he do that shot”. Clee shot actually looks good just never goes in; Seems to me he should be catching and shooting rather than shooting off the
dribble.
4. Free TWill (only for as long as he gets serious about taking it to the rack).
5. Although this is development year, apparently Swat is not one of the young players KiKi is looking to devevelop. (Stole that from Swat from last year.)
by netsnuts on Dec 9, 2009 11:35 AM EST reply actions
@Anthony
No, my point is you have to look at the whole game. There were a lot of times where Sean made it easier for other guys to get baskets by setting screens, he would take charges(sometimes the refs called him for blocking which was clearly bogus) or he would make opponents double clutch in the paint because they knew he was around. A lot of ppl just look at his fouls and would complain and down him and ignore the rest of his game, yet Battie is said to have a solid game but fouled just as fast.
by TheMann on Dec 9, 2009 11:42 AM EST reply actions
@netsnuts;
I get the feeling that the Nets have given up on Swat and not just because of his poor play. He must be a real jerk off the court as well. They should just pay him off and let him go. Who needs the headache.
by Mike on Dec 9, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions
@ Chris2
I think Lee is struggling cuz he hasn’t foung his place on the court. He doesn’t seem to be a go-to scorer and isn’t the type to force things. He’s a smart player that lets the game come to him. He might be better suited behind CDR at SG if Hayes makes more of an impact assuming he gets the chance.
by Mr. Big on Dec 9, 2009 1:06 PM EST reply actions
What exactly did t will do that got him benched for las nites game????
by Da masta on Dec 9, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions
“SWAT has no roll on this team what so ever. Maybe you’ll see him getting 5 minutes here or 5 minutes there, but he’ll never amount to anything in the NBA.”
The team determines what role a player has by recognizing their talent. The guy who currently makes that decision is the person who brought our historic bust on to this team and coaches the guy who gave him 50 stitches. As far as the future, let’s just say some recognize talent better than others.
by Mr. Big on Dec 9, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions
@ Mr Bigs Says:
tYou are correct about C.Lee. I have been saying all year round that C.Lee should pair up with K.Dooling as our second unit. They can be solid relief D.Harris and C.D-Roberts and dominate with the second unit. J.H
by Dziedzic on Dec 9, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions
@ Mr Bigs Says:
You are correct about C.Lee. I have been saying all year round that C.Lee should pair up with K.Dooling as our second unit. They can be solid relief to D.Harris and C.D-Roberts and dominate with the second unit. This gives us balance for the whole game. J.Hayes can start at the 3 spot when healthy. So this is how I see it.
D.HARRIS C.D-ROBERTS J.HAYES J.BOONE B.LOPEZ
(4 out five starters can give you twenty on any night)
K.DOOLING C.LEE T.HASSELL YI.JIANLIAN T.BATTIE
(DOOLING/LEE/YI DO THE SCORING)
R.ALSTON & T.WILLIAMS
R.ALSTON comes in at the point when D.HARRIS/K.DOOLING are in foul trouble, injuried or not playing well that day.
T.Williams comes in at the two or three for the same reasons along with lock down on defense when needed if the other team is scoring at will.
GO BROOKLYN NETS! GO BROOKLYN NETS! GO BRROOKLYN NETS!
by Dziedzic on Dec 9, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions

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